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2012-06-14 03:09:57 PM  
Egypt's voters "overwhelmingly chose the revolution over the old regime ... but their failure to unite on a single platform directly benefited Shafik," Ashour said.

F*cking Nader!

The Supreme Constitutional Court found that all articles making up the law that regulated parliamentary elections are invalid, said Showee Elsayed, a constitutional lawyer.

Did they give a rationale, and I just missed it in TFA, or did they just say "nuh-uh"?

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, in control of the country since Mubarak's ouster, said that it now has full legislative power and will announce a 100-person assembly that will write the country's new constitution by Friday.

100 people... writing a constitution... in a couple days... makes sense.
 
2012-06-14 03:15:51 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: 100 people... writing a constitution... in a couple days... makes sense.


We the people...in charge....make the rules...and girls can't vote. Done!
 
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2012-06-14 03:18:03 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Egypt's voters "overwhelmingly chose the revolution over the old regime ... but their failure to unite on a single platform directly benefited Shafik," Ashour said.

F*cking Nader!

The Supreme Constitutional Court found that all articles making up the law that regulated parliamentary elections are invalid, said Showee Elsayed, a constitutional lawyer.

Did they give a rationale, and I just missed it in TFA, or did they just say "nuh-uh"?

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, in control of the country since Mubarak's ouster, said that it now has full legislative power and will announce a 100-person assembly that will write the country's new constitution by Friday.

100 people... writing a constitution... in a couple days... makes sense.


If you do it in pencil it's not that hard.
 
2012-06-14 03:54:33 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Did they give a rationale, and I just missed it in TFA, or did they just say "nuh-uh"?


From Another Article: In its decisions Thursday, the Supreme constitutional Court ruled that a third of the legislature was elected illegally. As a result, it says in its explanation of the ruling, "the makeup of the entire chamber is illegal and, consequently, it does not legally stand."...The law governing the parliamentary elections was ruled unconstitutional by a lower court because it breached the principle of equality when it allowed party members to contest a third of seats set aside for independents. The remaining two thirds were contested by party slates.

If the legislature is not duly elected, its laws can have no effect, they seem to be saying.
 
2012-06-14 03:58:26 PM  
Two things that Egypt should remember:

A Lannister always pays his debt

And Ned Stark was an idiot.

"Egypt just witnessed the smoothest military coup," said Hossam Bahgat of the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights, in a tweet after the high court's decisions Thursday. "We'd be outraged if we weren't so exhausted."


This is your time to fight for freedom Mr. Bahgat. It is not easy. You can sleep when your dead.
 
2012-06-14 04:07:11 PM  

Somacandra: tallguywithglasseson: Did they give a rationale, and I just missed it in TFA, or did they just say "nuh-uh"?

From Another Article: In its decisions Thursday, the Supreme constitutional Court ruled that a third of the legislature was elected illegally. As a result, it says in its explanation of the ruling, "the makeup of the entire chamber is illegal and, consequently, it does not legally stand."...The law governing the parliamentary elections was ruled unconstitutional by a lower court because it breached the principle of equality when it allowed party members to contest a third of seats set aside for independents. The remaining two thirds were contested by party slates.

If the legislature is not duly elected, its laws can have no effect, they seem to be saying.


Sounds legit.
 
2012-06-14 06:27:46 PM  
Who is this "Highest Court Anus" and where can we find him!
 
2012-06-14 06:29:26 PM  
I'm going to say this about the middle east:

I'm glad the people that live there, live there, and not here.
 
2012-06-14 06:29:36 PM  
Egyptians left wondering where the god of wine and tits is.
 
2012-06-14 06:30:08 PM  
It isn't a question of having an election. It's questioning whether you have two elections.
 
2012-06-14 06:31:32 PM  
so the military declared that the vote was illegal, thus the constitutional congress is invalid, thus they are appointing their own congress. Will that congress have been...err...elected legally? Seems at least the first one was more valid than a military-appointed congress...
 
2012-06-14 06:34:40 PM  

IamAwake: so the military declared that the vote was illegal, thus the constitutional congress is invalid, thus they are appointing their own congress. Will that congress have been...err...elected legally? Seems at least the first one was more valid than a military-appointed congress...


Stop trying to figure it out, and just enjoy the chaos.
 
2012-06-14 06:36:00 PM  
Probably should wait to see who the military puts in charge before damning this completely.
 
2012-06-14 06:36:27 PM  

make me some tea: Somacandra: tallguywithglasseson: Did they give a rationale, and I just missed it in TFA, or did they just say "nuh-uh"?

From Another Article: In its decisions Thursday, the Supreme constitutional Court ruled that a third of the legislature was elected illegally. As a result, it says in its explanation of the ruling, "the makeup of the entire chamber is illegal and, consequently, it does not legally stand."...The law governing the parliamentary elections was ruled unconstitutional by a lower court because it breached the principle of equality when it allowed party members to contest a third of seats set aside for independents. The remaining two thirds were contested by party slates.

If the legislature is not duly elected, its laws can have no effect, they seem to be saying.

Sounds legit.


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The Legislature will no longer be of any concern to us. I've just received word that the military has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the New Republic have been swept away.

Fear will keep the systems in line- fear of THIS battle station!
 
2012-06-14 06:41:32 PM  
Is anyone really shocked by this? Anyone? Revolutions are a dime a dozen. It's what happens after the revolution that counts. And the majority of the times it's either the same old, same old or it's worse.

So many people look at the US and its revolution and think, "Well, it worked for them. Why not us?"

And I tell you why. The US was damn lucky. It had people in place that weren't power hungry or at least had enough people who weren't power hungry to keep those who were in check. Like for example, George Washington putting his foot down to the suggestion that as the first leader elect for the new nation that he'd be called, "Highness." His thinking was we just fought a war to kick out one "highness" why the hell would we want a new one. So many wrong people would have gobbled that up and then twisted it for more power.

The problem with spontaneous revolutions is that they are never planned well.

/yes, sarcasm
 
2012-06-14 06:41:54 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: 100 people... writing a constitution... in a couple days... makes sense.


I read it that they would be announcing the members of the assembly by Friday, not actually writing the entire constitution by then.
 
2012-06-14 06:43:04 PM  
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2012-06-14 06:44:51 PM  

Marine1: I'm going to say this about the middle east:

I'm glad the people that live there, live there, and not here.



If you live in a big city, chances are you have people from there living here.

If you want to compare religious crazies in both America and there, you won't find many differences.
 
2012-06-14 06:48:05 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: 100 people... writing a constitution... in a couple days... makes sense.


Why not?

It's just a goddammed piece of papyrus
 
2012-06-14 06:48:25 PM  
So in the end of all this, who will they bow down to and call Pharoah?
 
2012-06-14 06:48:27 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Egypt's voters "overwhelmingly chose the revolution over the old regime ... but their failure to unite on a single platform directly benefited Shafik," Ashour said.

F*cking Nader!

The Supreme Constitutional Court found that all articles making up the law that regulated parliamentary elections are invalid, said Showee Elsayed, a constitutional lawyer.

Did they give a rationale, and I just missed it in TFA, or did they just say "nuh-uh"?

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, in control of the country since Mubarak's ouster, said that it now has full legislative power and will announce a 100-person assembly that will write the country's new constitution by Friday.

100 people... writing a constitution... in a couple days... makes sense.


What, haven't you read Constitution Writing for Dummies?

// It's a great book
 
2012-06-14 06:51:11 PM  

mekki: So many people look at the US and its revolution and think, "Well, it worked for them. Why not us?"

And I tell you why. The US was damn lucky.


Success never has anything to do with planning, or determination, or sacrifice, or anything other than plain dumb luck. This is something any loser will tell you, over and over.
 
2012-06-14 06:51:39 PM  
I'm OK with this.

"Democracy" is an unnatural and unwelcome form of government in that part of the world anyway.

Military dictatorships are the natural form of governance in that part of the world. Nothing to see here, move on.
 
2012-06-14 06:53:51 PM  
Was the "obvious" tag shot in the head?
 
2012-06-14 06:54:10 PM  

Military types with their anti-riot pipes sing:
No way-oh-way-oh-way-ooo-aaa-ooo...


Coup like an Egyptian.


blogitude.com

 
2012-06-14 06:54:36 PM  
Send the military to The Wall, where they can redeem themselves and, coincidentally, indiscriminately fire automatic weapons into the air with very little concern that they will hit anyone.
 
2012-06-14 06:55:27 PM  
dabloggerz.com
 
2012-06-14 06:56:25 PM  
The Arab Spring has only been an illusion anyway.
 
2012-06-14 06:58:51 PM  
Democracy sucks.
 
2012-06-14 06:59:35 PM  
This might just end up like the Algerian Civil War, bad times for Egypt if that's the case. That lasted over a decade and ended up no clear resolution, just hundreds of thousands murdered.
 
2012-06-14 07:00:51 PM  

Kriggerel: Military dictatorships are the natural form of governance in that part of the world. Nothing to see here, move on.


Wasn't Kings and Queens and dictators the "natural" form of governance for thousands of years in Europe?
 
2012-06-14 07:02:18 PM  
If this is about keeping the government of Egypt more or less secular in nature and preventing dominance by religious elements, then I'm all for it.
 
2012-06-14 07:04:05 PM  

Tatterdemalian: mekki: So many people look at the US and its revolution and think, "Well, it worked for them. Why not us?"

And I tell you why. The US was damn lucky.

Success never has anything to do with planning, or determination, or sacrifice, or anything other than plain dumb luck. This is something any loser will tell you, over and over.


Are you saying that all the revolutions that failed over the centuries did so because, gosh, darn it, people didn't try hard enough? Luck does play into it. In the history of mankind, how many revolutionary heroes, people who said they were fighting for their country, countrymen and the future for everyone turned into villains by way dictatorship once they were seated in power? It has happened so many times, it's practically a cliche.
 
2012-06-14 07:04:30 PM  

MadAmos: then I'm all for it.


But the people of Egypt aren't. Again, look at what happened in Algeria when the military ruled government nullified their first true democratic election since the Islamists won. Let the Islamists mess up and the people can decide for themselves if they should be reelected. What Egypt needs is a bill of rights that would prevent any party from taking away basic human rights, which would be the main worry with an Islamic ruled govt.
 
2012-06-14 07:04:41 PM  
The Others have won.
 
2012-06-14 07:04:51 PM  

TheJoe03: Kriggerel: Military dictatorships are the natural form of governance in that part of the world. Nothing to see here, move on.

Haven't Kings and Queens and dictators been the "natural" form of governance for thousands of years in Europe?


FTFY.


Ancient Greece was an anomaly.
 
2012-06-14 07:05:31 PM  

Loren: The Arab Spring has only been an illusion anyway.


It wasn't about freedom. It was about jobs.
 
2012-06-14 07:05:40 PM  

Elephantman: [dabloggerz.com image 450x308]


Anyone seen Kyle?
 
2012-06-14 07:06:04 PM  
Democracy can't even exist in a world that hasn't had institutional corruption for decades. There is no real human control of society left anywhere.
 
2012-06-14 07:06:38 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Success never has anything to do with planning, or determination, or sacrifice, or anything other than plain dumb luck. This is something any loser will tell you, over and over.



So the people who plan, are determined, and sacrifice but still fail are what? Just losers?
 
2012-06-14 07:07:56 PM  

Kriggerel: I'm OK with this.

"Democracy" is an unnatural and unwelcome form of government in that part of the world anyway.

Military dictatorships are the natural form of governance in that part of the world. Nothing to see here, move on.



Ironic that the people over "there" have spent over a year protesting for Democracy and thousands have died, and over in America, OWS couldn't even last 6 months after being pepper sprayed and evicted.

So who doesn't want Democracy again?
 
2012-06-14 07:07:56 PM  
Egypt: Mubarak in 'full coma'

Never go full coma.


Marine1: I'm going to say this about the middle east:

I'm glad the people that live there, live there, and not here.


Yeah, because OUR Supreme Court is so reasonable and unbiased.


thisisyourbrainonFark: Elephantman: [dabloggerz.com image 450x308]

Anyone seen Kyle?


He's in the house.
 
2012-06-14 07:08:55 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: Democracy can't even exist in a world that hasn't had institutional corruption for decades. There is no real human control of society left anywhere.


... care to expound upon that thought?
 
2012-06-14 07:09:10 PM  

MadAmos: then I'm all for it.



So America is King and decider of the worlds affairs?

If they want religious leaders, shouldn't they be allowed self determination?

Sounds like all of you fascists don't believe in FREEDOM after all.
 
2012-06-14 07:09:39 PM  
This is very bad news for Fartbama.
 
2012-06-14 07:10:39 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: Phil Moskowitz: Democracy can't even exist in a world that hasn't had institutional corruption for decades. There is no real human control of society left anywhere.

... care to expound upon that thought?


Democracy is a small child, and we're all savages ready to pound its head in without a second thought?
 
2012-06-14 07:10:53 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Elephantman: [dabloggerz.com image 450x308]

Anyone seen Kyle?


He's about how tall?
 
2012-06-14 07:10:57 PM  

fusillade762: thisisyourbrainonFark: Elephantman: [dabloggerz.com image 450x308]

Anyone seen Kyle?

He's in the house.


That's Carl.
 
2012-06-14 07:11:44 PM  

TheJoe03: Kriggerel: Military dictatorships are the natural form of governance in that part of the world. Nothing to see here, move on.

Wasn't Kings and Queens and dictators the "natural" form of governance for thousands of years in Europe?


Egypt is not in Europe.
 
2012-06-14 07:12:56 PM  

intelligent comment below: MadAmos: then I'm all for it.


So America is King and decider of the worlds affairs?

If they want religious leaders, shouldn't they be allowed self determination?

Sounds like all of you fascists don't believe in FREEDOM after all.


No where in his post was that said. If you want to strawman folks, do it somewhere else.

idiot.
 
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