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(CBC)   Egypt's top court rules recent elections unconstitutional, delay of game, five-yard penalty   (cbc.ca) divider line 33
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2012-06-14 05:33:08 PM  
I predict a calm and orderly weekend in Egypt.
 
2012-06-14 05:53:47 PM  
This will end in calm, rational dialogues between everyone involved.
 
2012-06-14 05:57:18 PM  
In all the talk about top courts, we never get to hear what the lowest courts think. I think that's a shame.
 
2012-06-14 05:57:37 PM  
Nothing can possiblie go wrong.
 
2012-06-14 06:02:07 PM  
Egypt's top court rules recentlast year's elections unconstitutional, delay of game, five-yard penalty

FTFY. Still might cause some problems, but based on what I've read of the decision, it was the right one.
 
2012-06-14 06:02:40 PM  
I didn't see a flag on the field.
 
2012-06-14 06:07:07 PM  
But uncertainty about the intentions of the military had already been raised on Wednesday when the justice ministry announced that army personnel would have the right to detain civilians during the election period.

If they had their voter ID cards, then they probably wouldn't have to be detained.
 
2012-06-14 06:08:19 PM  
A last gasp from a weak military trying to hold onto their rule. Like all military dictatorships, this will end well for everyone.
 
2012-06-14 06:11:31 PM  

T-Servo: I didn't see a flag on the field.


It's back there, just look for it, I dare ya....

reddogreport.com
 
2012-06-14 06:33:50 PM  
This should be interesting, in the fake Chinese saying of the word.
 
2012-06-14 06:34:58 PM  
I've never seen file-drawer effect applied to an election. Normally it's reserved for polls, surveys, and alt-medicine studies.
 
2012-06-14 07:02:21 PM  
Defenders of the law argued that after a revolution aimed at removing Mubarak's rule, parliament had a right to prevent regime members from returning to power. Opponents of the law called it political revenge targeting Shafiq. The court said the law was not based on "objective grounds" and was discriminatory, violating "the principle of equality."

So no affirmative action, then.
 
2012-06-14 07:09:42 PM  
Elections called back because of excessive celebration of democracy.
 
2012-06-14 07:14:15 PM  
This is the Kobayashi Maru of elections.
 
2012-06-14 07:19:29 PM  
Worse yet it takes them out of field goal range.
 
2012-06-14 07:38:03 PM  
Something tells me Fark gets rid of the thread with more posts and leaves this one just to piss off us liters. Wouldn't be the first time.
 
2012-06-14 07:41:15 PM  
The fark happened to the other thread?
 
2012-06-14 07:50:27 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: The fark happened to the other thread?


Um, I have no idea. That was a way better headline.
 
2012-06-14 08:02:58 PM  
I really don't want Romney dealing with stuff like this.
 
2012-06-14 08:12:44 PM  

Free Radical: I really don't want Romney dealing with stuff like this.


Obama isn't dealing with it either, don't worry.
 
2012-06-14 08:16:44 PM  

intelligent comment below: A last gasp from a weak military trying to hold onto their rule. Like all military dictatorships, this will end well for everyone.


I thought this was the first gasp of the new Islamic government. No?
 
2012-06-14 08:49:22 PM  

NobleHam: Egypt's top court rules recentlast year's elections unconstitutional, delay of game, five-yard penalty

FTFY. Still might cause some problems, but based on what I've read of the decision, it was the right one.


The judges are saying that certain seats were supposed to be reserved for people with no political party affiliation. For Independents.

That may be what the constitution says, but it's unenforceable on its face and the person who put it there did so not to "give independent voices a chance" but rather to have an excuse to throw out election results at some future date.

I know, I know... in the USA we have "non partisan" elections for judge and school board. All that means is that the candidate can't publish their party affiliation and it won't appear on the ballot. But they have a party affiliation none the less, and activists within that party know who they are and try to set things up for them. Any law to prevent such behavior would also be unenforceable.
 
2012-06-14 10:16:13 PM  
So that's what a bloodless military coup d'état looks like
 
2012-06-14 10:24:05 PM  
Notabunny
So that's what a bloodless military coup d'état looks like

Hey, don't count their chickens.
 
2012-06-14 10:31:53 PM  

Free Radical: I really don't want Romney dealing with stuff like this.


Yeah, no way he could pull off something like that magical Arab spring.

Whoever though we'd see Assad deposed, a stable and free Libya, and a democratic Egypt.

Oh wait.....
 
2012-06-14 11:04:16 PM  

GentDirkly: NobleHam: Egypt's top court rules recentlast year's elections unconstitutional, delay of game, five-yard penalty

FTFY. Still might cause some problems, but based on what I've read of the decision, it was the right one.

The judges are saying that certain seats were supposed to be reserved for people with no political party affiliation. For Independents.

That may be what the constitution says, but it's unenforceable on its face and the person who put it there did so not to "give independent voices a chance" but rather to have an excuse to throw out election results at some future date.

I know, I know... in the USA we have "non partisan" elections for judge and school board. All that means is that the candidate can't publish their party affiliation and it won't appear on the ballot. But they have a party affiliation none the less, and activists within that party know who they are and try to set things up for them. Any law to prevent such behavior would also be unenforceable.


For one thing, those sorts of laws aren't at all unenforceable. They're enforced quite well in many countries, ensuring independents and minority parties, ethnic groups or religious groups are represented in parliament. The problem here isn't just that the election failed to preserve those seats for independents, though. The issue isn't partisan politicians running under the banner of independence, it's that the rules of the election were skewed to make the lawful outcome impossible and weren't uniform across the country. There simply weren't enough seats given to independent candidates, even if they were only nominally independent. It's bound to piss people off, especially the Islamists who benefited most from the election, but the court was right to toss it out. They maybe should have done so sooner, so that it could have been cleared up before the Presidential election, but the original vote was unfair and unlawful.
 
2012-06-14 11:11:05 PM  

JustGetItRight: Free Radical: I really don't want Romney dealing with stuff like this.

Yeah, no way he could pull off something like that magical Arab spring.

Whoever though we'd see Assad deposed, a stable and free Libya, and a democratic Egypt.

Oh wait.....



Instead you'd be deployed to all 3 of those nations for a decade of unsustainable occupation.

I think Obama made the right decision.
 
2012-06-14 11:13:57 PM  

3_Butt_Cheeks: Free Radical: I really don't want Romney dealing with stuff like this.

Obama isn't dealing with it either, don't worry.


And what would you have Obama do? Spell it out.

Just once, I'd like to see one of you idiots actually advance a policy idea rather than just crying about your freedumz.
 
2012-06-14 11:22:49 PM  
As a purveyor of pointed sticks, I'm quite pleased with this result and will now be puddle-jumping across the pond for a most lucrative weekend.
 
2012-06-14 11:25:02 PM  

intelligent comment below: JustGetItRight: Free Radical: I really don't want Romney dealing with stuff like this.

Yeah, no way he could pull off something like that magical Arab spring.

Whoever though we'd see Assad deposed, a stable and free Libya, and a democratic Egypt.

Oh wait.....


Instead you'd be deployed to all 3 of those nations for a decade of unsustainable occupation.

I think Obama made the right decision.


Why do you hate Amercia?
 
2012-06-15 12:28:28 AM  
I'm glad to live in a country where we never get to vote anyone but one of two carefully selected well groomed millionaires.

There is no need for fraud when everyone on both teams works for the same corporate owners.
 
2012-06-15 09:02:57 AM  

RanDomino: Notabunny
So that's what a bloodless military coup d'état looks like

Hey, don't count their chickens.


Turkey, actually.
 
2012-06-15 11:12:17 AM  
The politically charged rulings dealt a heavy blow to the fundamentalist Islamic Brotherhood,

i'm okay with that.
 
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