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(Talking Points Memo)   Florida Governor Rick Scott (R-eally looks like that guy from Powder) defends his voter purge by saying he once had to vote provisional because the state thought he was dead   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 82
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vpb [TotalFark]
2012-06-14 12:17:00 PM
Thought he was dead or black?
 
2012-06-14 12:17:30 PM
Shouldn't mistakes like that be corrected?
 
2012-06-14 12:19:21 PM
blogs.browardpalmbeach.com
 
2012-06-14 12:29:24 PM
But he still voted. Which is the point.
 
2012-06-14 12:29:58 PM
I thought he was a felon.
 
2012-06-14 12:31:27 PM
Better luck next time, death.
 
2012-06-14 12:37:43 PM

what_now: But he still voted. Which is the point.

 
2012-06-14 12:51:42 PM
As the youngest election official by about 30 years to work at my polling place, let me tell you what happens when you fill out a provisional ballot:

First, you go see the elderly lady at the table and give her your address and name. She licks her finger, turns a few pages...can't find you. She puts on her other glasses..still can't find you.

She asks you sternly if you filled out the city census/registered to vote/recently moved. You sheepishly reply that you have failed in some way to keep your status active.

She calls Gladys over, because Gladys is in charge of Young People Like You (you try to point out that you're 47, but to know avail. This woman thought McCain was sprightly). Gladys asks to see your license/identification/utility bill. Once provided with proof of your identification, Gladys makes you complete a form stating that you are a resident of ward X, you have not and will not vote in any other ward under penalty of felony charges, fines etc etc.

You are given a provisional ballot, which is counted AFTER all the other ballots. While this ballot IS STILL COUNTED, in many cases the election results have been published BEFORE the ballot is counted, because the difference between the winner and loser is larger than the number of provisional votes.

Gladys, and the other ladies, tut about you for a minute, and go back to trying to fix up their granddaughters with the very very bored cop.
 
2012-06-14 01:07:54 PM

what_now: As the youngest election official by about 30 years to work at my polling place, let me tell you what happens when you fill out a provisional ballot:

First, you go see the elderly lady at the table and give her your address and name. She licks her finger, turns a few pages...can't find you. She puts on her other glasses..still can't find you.

She asks you sternly if you filled out the city census/registered to vote/recently moved. You sheepishly reply that you have failed in some way to keep your status active.

She calls Gladys over, because Gladys is in charge of Young People Like You (you try to point out that you're 47, but to know avail. This woman thought McCain was sprightly). Gladys asks to see your license/identification/utility bill. Once provided with proof of your identification, Gladys makes you complete a form stating that you are a resident of ward X, you have not and will not vote in any other ward under penalty of felony charges, fines etc etc.

You are given a provisional ballot, which is counted AFTER all the other ballots. While this ballot IS STILL COUNTED, in many cases the election results have been published BEFORE the ballot is counted, because the difference between the winner and loser is larger than the number of provisional votes.

Gladys, and the other ladies, tut about you for a minute, and go back to trying to fix up their granddaughters with the very very bored cop.


My Accidental Voter Fraud Story:

The polling places for the town and township were on the same road, four blocks apart. I didn't know that at the time (we had moved in a month or so before). The Old Lady Brigade took down my name and address and let me in to vote (this was 2003, the details are foggy... May have changed my address and registered already, or had a utility bill and registered there). Either way, I voted.

A month or so later I recieved a strongly worded letter informing me that I had voted improperly. And that was all that came of it. Of course, being 23 at the time I spent several weeks convinced some evil hand of the law would come drag me off to jail.
 
2012-06-14 01:20:11 PM

abb3w: Shouldn't mistakes like that be corrected?


Yes. He's completely missing the point.

And sorry, after 2000 forgive me if I question the integrity of the provisional ballot process.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-06-14 01:23:53 PM

abb3w: Shouldn't mistakes like that be corrected?


Or not made in the first place, especially if it is being done intentionally.
 
2012-06-14 01:25:56 PM
what_now: Yeah. Gram works the polls (giggity). She would not disagree with that characterization.

Similar to what happened when for whatever reason I was sent an absentee ballot two votes ago. But after their little routine I was still allowed to vote like normal. They checked with the central whatever to make sure I hadn't also sent in the absentee (which I didn't - shredded it because I didn't know why I'd received it).
 
2012-06-14 01:25:58 PM
And out of the huge voter purge they found 13 people who were on the rolls incorrectly.
 
2012-06-14 01:35:32 PM

cretinbob: And out of the huge voter purge they found 13 people who were on the rolls incorrectly.


But they nuked the HELL out of those 13 people!
 
2012-06-14 01:37:27 PM

Weaver95: cretinbob: And out of the huge voter purge they found 13 people who were on the rolls incorrectly.

But they nuked the HELL out of those 13 people!


Yeah! What's a little collateral disenfranchisement?
 
2012-06-14 01:48:03 PM

Calmamity: Weaver95: cretinbob: And out of the huge voter purge they found 13 people who were on the rolls incorrectly.

But they nuked the HELL out of those 13 people!

Yeah! What's a little collateral disenfranchisement?


ok, so....hundreds of other valid and legal voters got purged in the process...but you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs! man up nancy, it's an acceptable loss! those 13 people were EVIL! they could have thrown an election into doubt! DEMOCRACY WOULD HAVE COLLAPSED! anarchy! Chaos!

if you stick your hand...into a bunch of goo that a moment before was your best friends face...well...you'll know what to do. now why don't you get with the program and come on in with the big win? no poor sap ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by being all that he can be. Damn the torpedoes, or give me death! Eternal vigilance is the price of duty. And, to the victors go the spoils. So remember: you are the best of the best of the few and the proud. So ask not what your country can do for you, only regret that you have but one life to live
 
2012-06-14 01:54:13 PM
And Rick Scott's point is ... what?
 
2012-06-14 02:02:29 PM

AirForceVet: And Rick Scott's point is ... what?


He feels our pain.

Even over the oxycontin he gets from his old pill mills.
 
2012-06-14 02:18:33 PM
This is a point in favor of more careful vetting of purges, not increasing them. Cunning plan, etc.
 
2012-06-14 02:59:57 PM
This guy is Lex Luther without the intelligence. There's nothing that he's done that isn't evil and/or incompetent.
 
2012-06-14 03:52:26 PM
It's best to govern by anectdotal episodes. A well rounded group of advisors is ok I suppose but nothing beats the evidence and facts one can provide with sentences that begin 'Well, one time I was....'
 
2012-06-14 03:56:20 PM

Mugato: This guy is Lex Luther without the intelligence. There's nothing that he's done that isn't evil and/or incompetent.


And all this time I thought the reason the Superboy TV series was inexplicably set in Florida was that they had a deal to film at Disney-MGM.
 
2012-06-14 03:58:22 PM

what_now: As the youngest election official by about 30 years to work at my polling place, let me tell you what happens when you fill out a provisional ballot:


thanks for the info, i would love to say i have changed my voter registration or i'll remember to do it by the deadline, but i haven't and i wont. at least i can still cast a ballot, even if it will be mostly a formality!
 
2012-06-14 03:58:44 PM
Data integrity. What a concept!
 
2012-06-14 04:00:23 PM

Vodka Zombie: I thought he was a felon.


And we're done here.
 
2012-06-14 04:01:10 PM

AirForceVet: And Rick Scott's point is ... what?


He shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 
2012-06-14 04:02:11 PM
www.sharnanigans.com

Huh... Subby, you might be onto something there.

Has anybody tried zapping Rick Scott with a taser or something to see if he'll disappear?
 
2012-06-14 04:04:16 PM
I don't think it was so much a thought as a wish.
 
2012-06-14 04:05:48 PM
Can we have him tested?
 
2012-06-14 04:06:06 PM
Wow Florida, how many zombies do you need?

/Rick Scott on bath salts---now there's a scary thought...
 
2012-06-14 04:06:10 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: [www.sharnanigans.com image 450x289]

Huh... Subby, you might be onto something there.

Has anybody tried zapping Rick Scott with a taser or something to see if he'll disappear?


I think he looks more like Peter Garrett
www.scouts.com.au

/The time has come,
//To say fair's fair
 
2012-06-14 04:07:05 PM
I submitted this with a better headline.

Always wanted to say that.
 
2012-06-14 04:08:06 PM

Weaver95: Calmamity: Weaver95: cretinbob: And out of the huge voter purge they found 13 people who were on the rolls incorrectly.

But they nuked the HELL out of those 13 people!

Yeah! What's a little collateral disenfranchisement?

ok, so....hundreds of other valid and legal voters got purged in the process...but you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs! man up nancy, it's an acceptable loss! those 13 people were EVIL! they could have thrown an election into doubt! DEMOCRACY WOULD HAVE COLLAPSED! anarchy! Chaos!

if you stick your hand...into a bunch of goo that a moment before was your best friends face...well...you'll know what to do. now why don't you get with the program and come on in with the big win? no poor sap ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by being all that he can be. Damn the torpedoes, or give me death! Eternal vigilance is the price of duty. And, to the victors go the spoils. So remember: you are the best of the best of the few and the proud. So ask not what your country can do for you, only regret that you have but one life to live


You forgot "Forget it Marge, it's Chinatown!"
 
2012-06-14 04:11:07 PM

Vodka Zombie: I thought he was a felon.


25.media.tumblr.com*


THIS

*too infinity and beyond
 
2012-06-14 04:14:14 PM
Doesn't this peg the irony meter. He's defending a reckless purge because he was recklessly purged.
 
2012-06-14 04:14:14 PM

Glenford: Fluorescent Testicle: [www.sharnanigans.com image 450x289]

Huh... Subby, you might be onto something there.

Has anybody tried zapping Rick Scott with a taser or something to see if he'll disappear?

I think he looks more like Peter Garrett
[www.scouts.com.au image 332x350]

/The time has come,
//To say fair's fair


www.andyinc.org

Always looked like Voldemort to me.
 
2012-06-14 04:17:02 PM
Why would Floridians elect such an obvious and complete sociopath?
 
2012-06-14 04:17:03 PM
www.listentome.net
 
2012-06-14 04:19:45 PM
And there it is, right wing logic. "It happened to me so that's the way it must be for everyone", instead of looking at facts and statistics.
 
2012-06-14 04:19:52 PM

ComicBookGuy: Why would Floridians elect such an obvious and complete sociopath?


Similar to how Walker beat the recall. Lots of money and a lackluster opposition candidate.
 
2012-06-14 04:20:14 PM

rudemix: It's best to govern by anectdotal episodes. A well rounded group of advisors is ok I suppose but nothing beats the evidence and facts one can provide with sentences that begin 'Well, one time I was....'


I liked yesterday's argument that the lack of convictions for voter fraud is evidence of how easy and pervasive it is.
 
2012-06-14 04:22:35 PM

BSABSVR: rudemix: It's best to govern by anectdotal episodes. A well rounded group of advisors is ok I suppose but nothing beats the evidence and facts one can provide with sentences that begin 'Well, one time I was....'

I liked yesterday's argument that the lack of convictions for voter fraud is evidence of how easy and pervasive it is.


Accepting that logic, maybe we should revisit his Medicare fraud. He got off easy. Ergo, he must have done much worse than was discovered.
 
2012-06-14 04:24:57 PM

ComicBookGuy: Why would Floridians elect such an obvious and complete sociopath?


Scared old jew and north floriduh redenecks
 
2012-06-14 04:25:04 PM
T. Dawg
My Accidental Voter Fraud Story:

The polling places for the town and township were on the same road, four blocks apart. I didn't know that at the time (we had moved in a month or so before). The Old Lady Brigade took down my name and address and let me in to vote (this was 2003, the details are foggy... May have changed my address and registered already, or had a utility bill and registered there). Either way, I voted.

A month or so later I recieved a strongly worded letter informing me that I had voted improperly. And that was all that came of it. Of course, being 23 at the time I spent several weeks convinced some evil hand of the law would come drag me off to jail.


You are the embodiment of everything that is wrong with America. Good day, sir!

/don't mistake all of that for sarcasm: I really do hope things are pleasant in your location
 
2012-06-14 04:26:17 PM
So his opponents claim the voter purge will result in thousands of disenfranchised voters and his justification for it is that the system is so farked up he was once purged. Ironic tag?

Keep up the doublethink GOP.
 
2012-06-14 04:27:47 PM

Vodka Zombie: I thought he was a felon.


He didn't commit any felonies until he became Governor. Now shut up poor person and pee in the cup that my company sells to the state.
 
2012-06-14 04:27:53 PM
In before someone conflates voter purges with voter ID laws...
 
2012-06-14 04:32:49 PM
Florida Governor Rick Scott (R-eally looks like that guy from Powder) defends his voter purge by saying he once had to vote provisional because the state thought he was brain dead.

FIFS
 
2012-06-14 04:42:06 PM

grokca: Florida Governor Rick Scott (R-eally looks like that guy from Powder) defends his voter purge by saying he once had to vote provisional because the state thought he was brain dead.


That's odd. Florida is very fond to take unprecedented steps to treat their brain dead as regular functioning people.
 
2012-06-14 04:49:24 PM

Jairzinho: grokca: Florida Governor Rick Scott (R-eally looks like that guy from Powder) defends his voter purge by saying he once had to vote provisional because the state thought he was brain dead.

That's odd. Florida is very fond to take unprecedented steps to treat their brain dead as regular functioning people.


They're going to wish they hadn't when the zombie hordes start voting.
 
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