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(JoBlo)   A look at what went wrong with the upcoming zombie apocalypse, er, Brad Pitt's World War Z   (joblo.com) divider line 120
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2012-06-14 09:33:51 AM
I'm going to guess that abandoning the central premise of the book so that the film sounds like just another zombie movie clone was the first problem.
 
2012-06-14 09:36:08 AM
I'm guessing they thought it would somehow be different from all the other identical zombie movies.
 
2012-06-14 09:39:32 AM

Sybarite: I'm going to guess that abandoning the central premise of the book so that the film sounds like just another zombie movie clone was the first problem.


That would be my guess as well. Compound that by making Zack into fast zombies that can turn someone in 30 seconds rather than the slow, inexorable tide they were in the book.

Also, 2:1 says they leave out everything about South Africa and China just to focus on America.
 
2012-06-14 09:45:28 AM

Jubeebee: Compound that by making Zack into fast zombies


There are no fast zombies. If it's moving fast it is not by definition a zombie. Don't let them frame the debate!!!
 
2012-06-14 09:47:54 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Don't let them frame the debate!!!


Oh, geez. Are you always "on"?

;-) ;-) ;-)
 
2012-06-14 09:51:06 AM
Last we heard on the big-budget zombie front, PROMETHEUS scribe Damon Lindelof had been brought in to do a bit of script revision.

This phrase is quickly becoming a Hollywood red flag.
 
2012-06-14 10:05:44 AM

Mentat: This phrase is quickly becoming a Hollywood red flag.


Which phrase, Damon Lindelof?
 
2012-06-14 10:06:50 AM
Last we heard on the big-budget zombie front, PROMETHEUS scribe Damon Lindelof had been brought in to do a bit of script revision.

Well that's one.
 
2012-06-14 10:07:28 AM
Quick, scrap it and sell it to HBO for a mini-series instead. It's not too late!
 
2012-06-14 10:09:50 AM

exick: Mentat: This phrase is quickly becoming a Hollywood red flag.

Which phrase, Damon Lindelof?


Yep.
 
2012-06-14 10:17:16 AM

Thoguh: Quick, scrap it and sell it to HBO for a mini-series instead. It's not too late!


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It's ok man. Let it out. We've all been there. Just let it go
 
2012-06-14 10:34:33 AM

Thoguh: Quick, scrap it and sell it to HBO for a mini-series instead. It's not too late!


I thought the same thing. An episode for each story.
 
2012-06-14 11:54:02 AM
They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.
 
2012-06-14 12:31:49 PM
I can only see that book working as an HBO type show. You could do good work with it. M*A*S*H with the undead, you could spend episodes in random parts of the globe; might be pretty cool.

Two hour movie? Right.
 
2012-06-14 01:09:15 PM
How about it's based on an awful book that craps on the zombie genre and turns it into survival porn, for $500, Alex?
 
2012-06-14 01:11:41 PM

give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.


Doesn't sound like it's all that far from the source material after all.
 
2012-06-14 01:12:14 PM

Sybarite: I'm going to guess that abandoning the central premise of the book so that the film sounds like just another zombie movie clone was the first problem.


Exactly. "Hey this is a popular zombie book lets make it into a movie." "Great idea! Lets start by getting rid of everything people liked about the book!"
 
2012-06-14 01:14:02 PM

ZeroCorpse: How about it's based on an awful book that craps on the zombie genre and turns it into survival porn, for $500, Alex?


Oh shut up already. You make that same post in every freaking zombie thread. We get it, zombies aren't as cool now as they were back in your day. Move the fark on.
 
2012-06-14 01:16:33 PM

Flappyhead: ZeroCorpse: How about it's based on an awful book that craps on the zombie genre and turns it into survival porn, for $500, Alex?

Oh shut up already. You make that same post in every freaking zombie thread. We get it, zombies aren't as cool now as they were back in your day. Move the fark on.


I'm just impressed he moved on from reading books with pictures and whining about Joss Whedon.
 
2012-06-14 01:18:57 PM

give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.


I'm not sure I can fap to coed naked zombie showers.
 
2012-06-14 01:21:27 PM
The book should have been done as a cartoon. Should have been rejiggered to work in the bronie universe. Either that or give it to Pixar.
 
2012-06-14 01:22:13 PM
Article isn't about the plot, it's about the production difficulties.
 
2012-06-14 01:23:13 PM

OtherLittleGuy: give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.

I'm not sure I can fap to coed naked zombie showers.


Yes, yes you can.
 
2012-06-14 01:29:27 PM

OtherLittleGuy: give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.

I'm not sure I can fap to coed naked zombie showers.


The amount of zombies required to be considered a shower plus, finding anyone that would stand there and be crushed seens problematic.
 
2012-06-14 01:39:16 PM

OtherLittleGuy: give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.

I'm not sure I can fap to coed naked zombie showers.


Obviously you have not seen Gang Bang Zombies 9, 6 and 8 went a bit off track, but 9 was just solid. The knock off Flesh Eating farks was okay, not as good as the original source material, but that part where that cute blond chick starts collecting rotting cocks was awesome.
 
2012-06-14 01:39:37 PM

Mentat: Last we heard on the big-budget zombie front, PROMETHEUS scribe Damon Lindelof had been brought in to do a bit of script revision.

This phrase is quickly becoming a Hollywood red flag.


It might not be too bad as long as they don't let him write any of the ending.
 
2012-06-14 01:42:22 PM

OtherLittleGuy: give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.

I'm not sure I can fap to coed naked zombie showers.


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This movie was a bad idea in the first place, the book isnt some action packed novel, its a collection of interviews. Dont try to make it a cohesive narrative. Give it to HBO and let them do a 10 part "Ken Burns Zombies".
 
2012-06-14 01:42:49 PM
This project was doomed the second they gave up on the JMS script and went with the Carnahan one.
 
2012-06-14 01:42:53 PM
God they're going to ruin this, aren't they? It's a shame, because there's so much potential if it's done right. But instead they're just going to turn it into a cookie cutter zombie flick with no relation to the original book.

I can't believe movie studios haven't learned yet that you can't just throw a ton of money at a popular franchise and expect to have a blockbuster. People are increasingly expecting some sort of *quality* in their movies.

Though honestly, as long as they don't screw up Ender's Game, I really don't care about this one.
 
2012-06-14 01:44:09 PM

give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.


It is sad when your only joy left in life is whining about shiat on the internet. I'm sorry you could not enjoy Starship Troopers the movie, even though it is hands down better then anything Hinelien wrote, but hey we are impressed that you read a book with out pictures.
 
2012-06-14 01:46:35 PM

Supes:

Though honestly, as long as they don't screw up Ender's Game, I really don't care about this one.


They did a good job with casting. Asa is a great match for Ender and the kid they have playing Bonzo reminds me of Pete Campbell in that he has a face you want to punch. He was also pretty good on The Middle. The only one I'm not sure of is Bean because he is 7-8 years too old.
 
2012-06-14 01:48:07 PM

Saiga410: The book should have been done as a cartoon. Should have been rejiggered to work in the bronie universe. Either that or give it to Pixar.


Sweet Christ - you referring to that My Little Pony crapfest that is gripping the world now?

I would be interested in a WWZ project.
NOT if it's turned into what NFL threads turned into last season.
 
2012-06-14 01:56:49 PM

Cyno01: OtherLittleGuy: give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.

I'm not sure I can fap to coed naked zombie showers.

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This movie was a bad idea in the first place, the book isnt some action packed novel, its a collection of interviews. Dont try to make it a cohesive narrative. Give it to HBO and let them do a 10 part "Ken Burns Zombies".


This. I just read the book while I was on vacation and was really surprised - I had a vague idea of what to expect, but I also knew that this movie was in the works, so I was kinda shocked that it was so... dry. I mean, it's an interesting narrative technique and it's effective. The book reads like a report, like a qualitative data set of interview transcripts. It's interesting in its own way, but it's definitely not your typical movie fodder. It doesn't really a cohesive narrative, a climax and a resolution... As you said, it would be better as a mini-series in which each episode focuses on a different character's story/experiences. THAT would be awesome. Each week you could see how a different individual or group survived in their specific area - people in Japan, people in the US, people in Africa, etc.
 
2012-06-14 01:58:38 PM

Cyno01: This movie was a bad idea in the first place, the book isnt some action packed novel, its a collection of interviews. Dont try to make it a cohesive narrative. Give it to HBO and let them do a 10 part "Ken Burns Zombies".


Kevin Costner reading a letter from 2013 while the camera hovers over a black and white photo of a family with Costner as the father. Slowly the camera pans to the young girl and comes in close to show her pig tails just as Costner tells of the pig-tail eating zombies that got his family. All the while, playing the background is blue grass music.
 
2012-06-14 02:00:53 PM
Guys, I haven't read the books so stop being jerks and spoiling it!

/Just kidding, have not read the books but I could care less if any of you want to talk about the book.
 
2012-06-14 02:07:21 PM

Nick Spiceyweiner: Guys, I haven't read the books so stop being jerks and spoiling it!

/Just kidding, have not read the books but I could care less if any of you want to talk about the book.


How much less? I only ask so that I can properly gauge how much you actually care about this.
 
2012-06-14 02:13:06 PM

FedExPope: Nick Spiceyweiner: Guys, I haven't read the books so stop being jerks and spoiling it!

/Just kidding, have not read the books but I could care less if any of you want to talk about the book.

How much less? I only ask so that I can properly gauge how much you actually care about this.


I plan to read the book one day, but spoilers never bother me. You guys aren't making me want to see the movie though very badly, but I've have heard good things about the books.
 
2012-06-14 02:15:04 PM

Nick Spiceyweiner: FedExPope: Nick Spiceyweiner: Guys, I haven't read the books so stop being jerks and spoiling it!

/Just kidding, have not read the books but I could care less if any of you want to talk about the book.

How much less? I only ask so that I can properly gauge how much you actually care about this.

I plan to read the book one day, but spoilers never bother me. You guys aren't making me want to see the movie though very badly, but I've have heard good things about the books.


Or book I should say. Are there more than one?
 
2012-06-14 02:15:23 PM
I'm consoling myself that the WWZ reboot in 2017 will be better and closer to the original work.

/Who am I kidding.
//I do like the HBO idea much better.
 
2012-06-14 02:20:40 PM
ZOMBIES ARE OVER! MOVE ON ALREADY!
 
2012-06-14 02:40:26 PM
The problem right now is we don't have a popular front for running the short stories that can actually be turned into a proper movie. So Hollywood only hears about books, which are rarely suitable to single movies.

WWZ is almost short enough to work but it's too complicated. It's essentially a handful of short stories in a compilation, Martian Chronicles style.
 
2012-06-14 02:51:28 PM
Step 1: Fark up an adaptation of a book that is really popular with the OCD demographic that is comic book fans who will see it no matter what

Step 2: Reboot the series knowing said demographic will see it again and again

Step 3: Wash rinse repeat (and profit)
 
2012-06-14 02:57:49 PM
Let me just say that the chapter that takes place in the catacombs of Paris could easily be turned into the concept for an awesome zombie movie all by itself. Claustrophobia + darkness + zombies = awesome.
 
2012-06-14 03:01:45 PM

Jubeebee: Also, 2:1 says they leave out everything about South Africa and China just to focus on America.


What are these China and South Africa of which you speak? Are they near the Bahamas?

I_C_Weener: Cyno01: This movie was a bad idea in the first place, the book isnt some action packed novel, its a collection of interviews. Dont try to make it a cohesive narrative. Give it to HBO and let them do a 10 part "Ken Burns Zombies".

Kevin Costner reading a letter from 2013 while the camera hovers over a black and white photo of a family with Costner as the father. Slowly the camera pans to the young girl and comes in close to show her pig tails just as Costner tells of the pig-tail eating zombies that got his family. All the while, playing the background is blue grass music.


You are reading this in Garrison Keilor's voice

My very dear Sarah,

The indications are very strong that we shall move in a few days -- perhaps tomorrow. Lest I should not be able to write you again, I feel impelled to write lines that may fall under your eye
when I shall be no more.

The memories of the blissful moments I have spent with you come creeping over me, and I feel most gratified to God and to you that I have enjoyed them so long. And hard it is for me to give
them up and burn to ashes the hopes of future years, when God willing, we might still have lived and loved together and seen our sons grow up to honorable manhood around us. I have, I
know, but few and small claims upon Divine Providence, but something whispers to me -- perhaps it is the wafted prayer of my little Edgar -- that I shall return to my loved ones unharmed. If
I do not return, my dear Sarah, never forget how much I love you, and when my last breath escapes me on the battlefield, it will whisper your name.

Forgive my many faults, and the many pains I have caused you. How thoughtless and foolish I have oftentimes been! How gladly would I wash out with my tears every little spot upon your
happiness, and struggle with all the misfortune of this world, to shield you and my children from harm. But I cannot. I must watch you from the spirit land and hover near you, while you buffet
the storms with your precious little freight, and wait with sad patience till we meet to part no more.

But, O Sarah! If the dead can come back to this earth and flit unseen around those they loved, I shall always be near you; in the garish day and in the darkest night -- amidst your happiest
scenes and gloomiest hours -- always, always; and if there be a soft breeze upon your cheek, it shall be my breath; or if the cool air fans your throbbing temple, it shall be my spirit passing by.

Sarah, do not mourn me dead; think I am gone and wait for thee, for we shall meet BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!



Sullivan

Sullivan Ballou, age 32, was killed at the Battle of Yonkers.
 
2012-06-14 03:01:47 PM

give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.


Hey, now. The Starship Troopers movie was fun, it just sure as fark had nothing to do with the book. If they had titled it anything else, even 'Naked Coed Alien Strikeforce', I think it'd have worked a little better.
 
2012-06-14 03:03:27 PM

Confabulat: I can only see that book working as an HBO type show. You could do good work with it. M*A*S*H with the undead, you could spend episodes in random parts of the globe; might be pretty cool.

Two hour movie? Right.


FTA:WORLD WAR Z was originally intended as a trilogy

Given that they may devote somewhere between 6-8 hours on this trilogy I will keep hoping it will be good and enjoyable. I'll even hope for a full directors cut one day and get 9-12 hours. I'm going to give them credit for at least realizing they couldn't distill this down to two hours. Even though I'd bet they considered it.
 
2012-06-14 03:21:05 PM

give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.


I see Heinlein's original book as incredible. The movie did not have humans using a magnetic power fist to rip out a bug's brain, but it should have. But the movie also has a young NPH, a lot of charm that wasn't conveyed in the very military orderly book.

2 sides of the coin in a connected idea.


THAT BEING SAID.

What WWZ has become is a farking attrocity. I wanted to see Brad Pitt interviewing survivors about the horrors that went on, flashing to continents, other cultures and truly showing how this unending wave of despair washed over the world.

Now we have the equivalent of COD Zombies on screen. Just pure knee jerk reaction violence and pop culture. Granted, I love COD Zombies, especially with friends, but not when you try and call it WWZ and expect me to pay $15 a ticket to see that steaming pile of crap.
 
2012-06-14 03:27:36 PM

Carth: Sybarite: I'm going to guess that abandoning the central premise of the book so that the film sounds like just another zombie movie clone was the first problem.

Exactly. "Hey this is a popular zombie book lets make it into a movie." "Great idea! Lets start by getting rid of everything people liked about the book!"


I was reflecting on this the other day... and it occurred to me that studios once understood this. Two examples: Bladerunner and Apocalypse Now... so different from their source material that they settled for a nod in the opening titles as being based on and changed the titles to eliminate critical comparison.
 
2012-06-14 03:28:39 PM

Slaves2Darkness: give me doughnuts: They are doing to "World War Z" what Verhoeven & Co. did to "Starship Troopers": taking the title, some character names, and a basic premise from the book, and making a movie that is a steaming pile of shiat.

It is sad when your only joy left in life is whining about shiat on the internet. I'm sorry you could not enjoy Starship Troopers the movie, even though it is hands down better then anything Hinelien wrote, but hey we are impressed that you read a book with out pictures.


Indeed. Starship Troopers is a fully awesome movie. Having said that, I would have really liked to have seen a somewhat faithful reproduction of WW-Z. It really was a great book.
 
2012-06-14 03:44:04 PM
2 things killed my hopes of WWZ being a watchable movie :


sendmorecops.files.wordpress.com

coupled with the (now confirmed) rumor of a PG-13 rating. It looks like it should be the cover of a FPS video game about the movie not the movie itself. The people making this movie clearly have no idea what made the book popular.
 
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