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2012-06-14 01:28:36 PM  
 
2012-06-14 01:44:38 PM  
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2012-06-14 02:37:00 PM  
www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com
been there, done that.
 
2012-06-14 02:38:10 PM  
Mobile toilets.

Sweet.
 
2012-06-14 02:40:06 PM  
Not this shiat again. They've been promising this exact design for years now, and it appears no closer to becoming a reality.

Must be time to suck the investors dry for some more cash to spend on hookers and blow.
 
2012-06-14 02:43:43 PM  
yeah
 
2012-06-14 02:44:23 PM  

Thelyphthoric: Amateurs.


Very cute. But something about driving a car with "Kart" stamped on the tires makes me nervous.
 
2012-06-14 02:44:42 PM  
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If the majority of the world drove tiny little go-kart sized vehicles it might be okay to drive go-kart sized vehicles. But there are SUV's and idiots on the road.
 
2012-06-14 02:47:18 PM  
Yeah, riiight! I'm still waiting on the hoverboard that was promised...

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2012-06-14 02:51:43 PM  

wildcardjack: [www.offbeatearth.com image 512x354]

If the majority of the world drove tiny little go-kart sized vehicles it might be okay to drive go-kart sized vehicles. But there are SUV's and idiots on the road.


Even if there weren't, there are delivery trucks and buses.
 
2012-06-14 02:53:18 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: wildcardjack: [www.offbeatearth.com image 512x354]

If the majority of the world drove tiny little go-kart sized vehicles it might be okay to drive go-kart sized vehicles. But there are SUV's and idiots on the road.

Even if there weren't, there are delivery trucks and buses.


And even if we got those off the road, there are speed bumps and potholes.
 
2012-06-14 02:53:40 PM  
About 40 years ago, I saw a concept car that flipped onto the rear-end and you pushed it into the parking space on the casters.
 
2012-06-14 02:56:59 PM  
If you're living in a dense enough urban environment that parking is a serious concern, you're also living in a dense enough urban environment where public transportation, biking, or walking are sufficient means of transportation.
 
2012-06-14 02:57:15 PM  
How long before some fat person demands to use this in a store as their mobility vehicle?
 
2012-06-14 03:02:09 PM  
Since you don't appear to use those balls, why not just cut them out and roll around on them? That's pretty fuel efficient.
 
2012-06-14 03:02:22 PM  

schattenteufel: [www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com image 350x271]
been there, done that.


Done in 2
 
2012-06-14 03:03:50 PM  

natazha: About 40 years ago, I saw a concept car that flipped onto the rear-end and you pushed it into the parking space on the casters.


Heck, they made airplanes like that:
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2012-06-14 03:10:47 PM  
Um, didn't Renault try to get something like this going a few years ago, the Xoom or Zoom?
 
2012-06-14 03:13:43 PM  
actually, 20yrs ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Zoom
 
2012-06-14 03:18:29 PM  
Folding car?
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2012-06-14 03:28:22 PM  
I've never been one for tiny cars. No room for stuff, not particularly comfortable, limited range, few accessories.
At least the PUMA sounded like a fun kind of electric rickshaw deal that was closer to a road worthy Segway than car.

If I'm going to ride in geek style, let it be a fashion abomination.

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2012-06-14 03:37:02 PM  
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2012-06-14 03:45:05 PM  
way south:

I've never been one for tiny cars. No room for stuff, not particularly comfortable, limited range, few accessories.
At least the PUMA sounded like a fun kind of electric rickshaw deal that was closer to a road worthy Segway than car.

If I'm going to ride in geek style, let it be a fashion abomination.

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I don't know, it has some old school James Bond / SPECTRE hidden base styling going on there. I'm sure the hipsters would be all over it.
 
2012-06-14 03:45:54 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: If you're living in a dense enough urban environment that parking is a serious concern, you're also living in a dense enough urban environment where public transportation, biking, or walking are sufficient means of transportation.


Want to know how I know you've never been to Los Angeles?
 
2012-06-14 03:49:20 PM  

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If the majority of the world drove tiny little go-kart sized vehicles it might be okay to drive go-kart sized vehicles. But there are SUV's and idiots on the road.


excellent point. we could save mad money if commuters could travel in micro-cars safely away from cargo haulers. IMHO a crapload of the commuters that have to risk life on certain NJ highways choose hulking SUVs because of confidence that comes with a large ride.

those little smart cars, fiats, minis & the new scion would be great if they were the only thing you encountered in your travels.
 
2012-06-14 03:55:08 PM  

blankwhiteboard: Folding car?
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Folded moving car?
/few things can kill a 4-Runner/Hilux
 
2012-06-14 04:06:41 PM  

timujin: the opposite of charity is justice: If you're living in a dense enough urban environment that parking is a serious concern, you're also living in a dense enough urban environment where public transportation, biking, or walking are sufficient means of transportation.

Want to know how I know you've never been to Los Angeles?


Honestly, you're correct I have not. Doesn't LA have both a rail and bus system? Explain to me if you would why what I said doesn't apply to LA.
 
2012-06-14 04:13:31 PM  

Technoir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Zoom


And they've just started making these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Twizy (pops), which look just a silly but as far as I know don't fold up.
 
2012-06-14 04:20:37 PM  
Folding cars can be quite economical. This one, for example, only costs $1.

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2012-06-14 04:25:55 PM  
 
2012-06-14 04:27:13 PM  

way south: I've never been one for tiny cars. No room for stuff, not particularly comfortable, limited range, few accessories.
At least the PUMA sounded like a fun kind of electric rickshaw deal that was closer to a road worthy Segway than car.


Whenever I see someone driving a smartcar I always have to wonder 1. where do you even put groceries in something like that, and 2. how sad does that person have to be? And I don't mean sad in a "haha look at that sad sack of shiat!" way, I mean I feel like it would literally be depressing to drive around in something like that.
 
2012-06-14 04:43:59 PM  

StrangeQ: way south: I've never been one for tiny cars. No room for stuff, not particularly comfortable, limited range, few accessories.
At least the PUMA sounded like a fun kind of electric rickshaw deal that was closer to a road worthy Segway than car.

Whenever I see someone driving a smartcar I always have to wonder 1. where do you even put groceries in something like that, and 2. how sad does that person have to be? And I don't mean sad in a "haha look at that sad sack of shiat!" way, I mean I feel like it would literally be depressing to drive around in something like that.


They don't look too depressed when trying to merge onto the interstate, but rather have that look of total fear that comes when death is imminent. Especially if the driver is as large as the car.
 
2012-06-14 05:16:05 PM  
That thing looks kinda fun, and completely useless.
 
2012-06-14 05:16:06 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: timujin: the opposite of charity is justice: If you're living in a dense enough urban environment that parking is a serious concern, you're also living in a dense enough urban environment where public transportation, biking, or walking are sufficient means of transportation.

Want to know how I know you've never been to Los Angeles?

Honestly, you're correct I have not. Doesn't LA have both a rail and bus system? Explain to me if you would why what I said doesn't apply to LA.


L.A. does have a train/subway system, but getting anywhere on it takes a very long time (we're not SF or NY, L.A. is spread out over a very large area) and the design, centering on downtown, makes the distance you have to travel such that it makes no sense to use it. And in Los Angeles the traffic is so bad that the buses are just about pointless as well.

I used to use both to commute from West Hollywood to Pasadena on days where I didn't feel like riding my motorcycle, which is the only decent way to get around this town. On the bike, the 25-mile trip takes about 35 minutes. In a car, anywhere from 45 minutes to two hours, depending on traffic. Via train and bus? 80 minutes minimum, but usually more than 90.
 
2012-06-14 05:29:12 PM  
Fat people. Won't fit.

Also, tall people.

Then there's the issue that cars are actually just teeny-tiny little moving apartments that people know they can keep their shiat in. They may choose not to keep a bunch of their shiat in there, but they know they can.

People with cars are hermit crabs. Not all of them, not all the time. But many of them, much of the time, and they may not live in that car shell, but they want to be able to retreat back to it if they need to. Where do scared and panicked people who are out and about think they'll be safe? "When I get back to my car." "If I can just get back to my car and get moving." "Get in the car, and lock the doors!"

When we want to be safer getting from here to there, what's one of the first things we think of? Reinforce the car. Bulletproof glass. Armor the doors. Get the tires that run when flat.

I think if anything, in a population that has a lot of people who've lived in warring areas--in addition to all those ex-military folks, there's a whole lot of civilian contractors who have worked in various deployed-type areas--people are going to be, if anything, even more disinclined to give up their hermit crab shells.

And we were pretty disinclined to give 'em up in the first place.
 
2012-06-14 05:42:03 PM  
A No Car?? Are you trying to put the Guild Navigators out of work??
 
2012-06-14 06:33:37 PM  
 
2012-06-14 06:49:45 PM  
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2012-06-14 06:55:02 PM  
Maybe if it didn't take 2 1/2 hours to take public transit instead of the 35 minutes to drive, I would consider actually taking the public transit. Plus it costs almost as much, so what's the point?
 
2012-06-14 06:56:41 PM  

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Came to say, Tex Avery did it
 
2012-06-14 07:30:43 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: timujin: the opposite of charity is justice: If you're living in a dense enough urban environment that parking is a serious concern, you're also living in a dense enough urban environment where public transportation, biking, or walking are sufficient means of transportation.

Want to know how I know you've never been to Los Angeles?

Honestly, you're correct I have not. Doesn't LA have both a rail and bus system? Explain to me if you would why what I said doesn't apply to LA.


LA has a perfectly fine bus system. The rail system doesnt really go where it needs to at the moment, but they're working on it.

LA is a typical American city as far as mass transportation/biking/walking goes. Lots of people get around town those ways. You can do it easily if you plan for it, but if you choose where you live and work without considering the commute, of course it is a pain.
 
2012-06-14 09:29:00 PM  
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2012-06-15 01:00:09 AM  
 
2012-06-15 08:11:11 AM  
Guaranteed to fold up like a suitcase in a car wreck too. The blood will add that nice homey touch to the paint job
 
2012-06-15 12:04:51 PM  
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2012-06-15 12:58:04 PM  
the opposite of charity is justice: If you're living in a dense enough urban environment that parking is a serious concern, you're also living in a dense enough urban environment where public transportation, biking, or walking are sufficient means of transportation.

THIS
 
2012-06-15 02:17:31 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: timujin: the opposite of charity is justice: If you're living in a dense enough urban environment that parking is a serious concern, you're also living in a dense enough urban environment where public transportation, biking, or walking are sufficient means of transportation.

Want to know how I know you've never been to Los Angeles?

Honestly, you're correct I have not. Doesn't LA have both a rail and bus system? Explain to me if you would why what I said doesn't apply to LA.


People have answered you about LA so let me tell you about Sacramento (which has very similar problems). The public transit system is way under developed and is terrible to use. To get from the North end to the South end of Sacramento you have to take a bus, the north train, the south train, and then another 2 buses. my 13 mile commute to/from work can take me between 15 minutes and 30 minutes in a car. Via public transit it takes between 90 minutes and 2 hours, and the cost is $7.50. If you only consider gas it takes less than $4.00 to drive to work. if you go by the $0.50 a mile that is standard compensation for work travel claims for this area, the cost is still $6.50.

If you are lucky enough to live in Rancho Cordova (which if you live in Rancho you probably dont consider yourself lucky) and work in the heart of down town which is the only area designed to feed into Sacramento via public transit your commute is simply a bus and a train. The cost will be $5 for a 17 mile commute, and it will take you one very consistent hour instead of 25-40 minutes. However if you work in the heart of down town you will likely have to contend with expensive parking, so this example makes financial sense. This is one of 3 examples in the entire city that work out dollar/time wise, and is the only example that works for people coming from outside Sacramento proper.
 
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