Do you have adblock enabled?
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Telegraph)   Fewer than half of young UK adults know butter comes from cows, a third do not know eggs come from hens   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 195
    More: Sad, dairy cows, bacon comes  
•       •       •

4427 clicks; posted to Main » on 14 Jun 2012 at 11:19 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



195 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread
 
2012-06-14 02:44:45 AM  
I'd be willing to bet that if you asked U.S. residents in the same age bracket these questions they'd give similar answers. There are plenty of people of all ages in the U.K. and the U.S. who 1) have never seen a cow, pig, chicken, or any other farm animals except on TV or in a book, 2) and their only connection with these products is at a grocery store.
 
2012-06-14 02:48:42 AM  
Butter comes from cows? Is there anything they can't do?
 
2012-06-14 03:01:35 AM  

Confabulat: Butter comes from cows? Is there anything they can't do?


Indeed. They give us steak and hamburgers too.

But pigs are even better. They give us bacon, ham and pork chops. They're a wonderful, magical animal!
 
2012-06-14 03:03:44 AM  
I have three kids in U.S. public schools. There are facts every day that get mentioned where I ask them "Didn't you go over that in school by now?" The answer is always no. I mean easy things like who Teddy Roosevelt was or how the nervous system works. You would think schools would cover that kind of thing by 10th grade. It's not like these are stupid kids they are in all AP and honor classes but schools just push reading and math anymore around here. It gets better around 10th grade because high school students are tested on more than just Math and English examinations. The other subjects just seem to get what ever time and resources are left over. Our old middle school had 2 periods a day of Math and English. One period alternated between science and social studies every other day. One was lunch and the last was for gym / elective. If kids wanted to take a foreign language they had to give up their free time before and during homeroom.

You wanted standardized testing to be the measuring stick for funding then you get schools only giving a shiat about what is on the test.
 
2012-06-14 03:26:27 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: I'd be willing to bet that if you asked U.S. residents in the same age bracket these questions they'd give similar answers. There are plenty of people of all ages in the U.K. and the U.S. who 1) have never seen a cow, pig, chicken, or any other farm animals except on TV or in a book, 2) and their only connection with these products is at a grocery store.


No shut up Bathia. I know all that to be untrue. Ribeyes will not grow unless they are between a styrofoam tray and some clear stretchy wrap. The stickers were originally used to encourage the steak's growth, the backside is loaded with nutrients. I'm glad they wisened up and printed on the other side, OUR side, because it was 50% wasteful otherwise.
 
2012-06-14 04:12:04 AM  
What are you talking about? Cows don't come from hens.
 
2012-06-14 04:26:26 AM  
Eggs come from all sorts of animals.

And as for butter....
 
2012-06-14 04:40:38 AM  
I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that butter is really made from etrochemical feedstock mixed with commodity proteins made in China.
 
2012-06-14 04:43:15 AM  

mr_a: mixed with commodity proteins melamine made in China.


More likely.
 
2012-06-14 05:37:17 AM  

violentsalvation: Bathia_Mapes: I'd be willing to bet that if you asked U.S. residents in the same age bracket these questions they'd give similar answers. There are plenty of people of all ages in the U.K. and the U.S. who 1) have never seen a cow, pig, chicken, or any other farm animals except on TV or in a book, 2) and their only connection with these products is at a grocery store.

No shut up Bathia. I know all that to be untrue. Ribeyes will not grow unless they are between a styrofoam tray and some clear stretchy wrap. The stickers were originally used to encourage the steak's growth, the backside is loaded with nutrients. I'm glad they wisened up and printed on the other side, OUR side, because it was 50% wasteful otherwise.


Hilarious.
 
2012-06-14 07:47:49 AM  
On that Jamie Oliver show in WV, he showed an eggplant to some kids and asked if anyone knew what it was. Nobody knew, and one kid said, "A pear?"
 
2012-06-14 08:50:26 AM  
And cheese comes from a box marked 'Velveeta.'
 
2012-06-14 08:52:44 AM  

sweetmelissa31: On that Jamie Oliver show in WV, he showed an eggplant to some kids and asked if anyone knew what it was. Nobody knew, and one kid said, "A pear?"


Trick question: it was an aubergine.
 
2012-06-14 11:20:38 AM  
I know a young man from the UK, this makes perfect sense.
 
2012-06-14 11:21:35 AM  
images.wikia.com
 
2012-06-14 11:24:12 AM  
...And 2/3 don't know where toothpaste comes from.
 
2012-06-14 11:25:07 AM  
A third don't know that they came from the postman.
 
2012-06-14 11:25:10 AM  
I have no idea what you are all talking about.

I milk my wheat and collect the eggs it lays every morning before I retrieve bacon from the tree in my front yard.
 
2012-06-14 11:25:51 AM  
No, they all come from ShopRite
 
2012-06-14 11:25:55 AM  
Shockingly, over 90 percent didn't realize edible food came from the United Kingdom.

Just kidding, UK Farkers. Keep a stiff upper lip and all that.
 
2012-06-14 11:26:01 AM  
I just want to take this moment to thank subby for saying fewer rather than less.
 
2012-06-14 11:26:01 AM  
Dear Lord. Please make this article a hoax.


"rapeseed oil" is the only thing I like about salads.
 
2012-06-14 11:26:19 AM  
One common argument in vegetarian circles is that people have become too disconnected from their food: they no longer draw the relationship between what exactly they eat and where it comes from. I disagree with the conclusions they draw from this observation, but I do think there's something to the observation itself.
 
2012-06-14 11:26:24 AM  
 
2012-06-14 11:26:24 AM  
LIES! Butter comes from the dairy aisle.
 
2012-06-14 11:26:31 AM  
Everyone knows McRibs come from a raccoon.
 
2012-06-14 11:26:45 AM  
"What's for breakfast?" "Well, some of it's still in the cow, some of it's under the hen and the rest is in the pigsty, and doesn't know what trouble it's in."

/Obscure, for sure.
 
2012-06-14 11:26:51 AM  
If only these people also didn't know penis goes in the vagina.
 
2012-06-14 11:26:51 AM  
No Soylent Green references? Come on guys!
 
2012-06-14 11:27:01 AM  
FTA "67% were able to link eggs to an image of a hen but 11% thought they came from wheat or maize"

WTF?!

Even my five year old knows where his food comes from (but that's only because we spent two years on a farm)
 
2012-06-14 11:27:21 AM  

HailRobonia: [images.wikia.com image 575x431]


More like:

images.wikia.com
 
2012-06-14 11:28:15 AM  
I don't know about that stuff, I do know that:
Peaches come from a can, they were put there by a man.
In a factory downtown.
If I had my little way I'd eat peaches everyday. Sun soakin bulges in the shade
 
2012-06-14 11:28:19 AM  
I've always made sure my kids know where their food is coming from. We live in the 'food belt' so it's not really hard. Drive by a feedlot and see the cows or pigs running around. "There goes lunch, boys."

We were at a buffet restaurant the other day and the boys were munching on clams, shrimp and calamari.

My oldest looks over, "Daddy. Do they kill the clams before we eat them?

"Yep, they sure do. Then they fry them, then we eat them."

My youngest says, "Dad. Do they kill the shrimps too?"

"Yep. They cut off the heads and cook them. Then we eat them."

The oldest looks down at my porkchop. "What about the pigs, Dad. They kill them too so we can eat them?"

"Yup. They kill the pigs and cut off different parts. Ham is from the pig's butt. Bacon is from the belly. BBQ ribs are pig ribs. Loins come from the soft part around the leg."

"Oooh," he says, stuffing another clam in his face. A few seconds later...."Daddy. We should get a pig."



That's my boy!
 
2012-06-14 11:28:26 AM  
FTFA: Three in 10 adults born in the 1990s haven't visited a farm in more than 10 years,

How can this be? Maybe it's because I live in NJ, but I see farms literally every day. I may only visit one once every few months. But they are all over the place.

As far as the rest of it goes, I was assuming that this article was going to say something about how eggs could come from a variety of birds, not just hens. Or that, milk can come from goats as well as cows. But, from what I gather, they had little icons for the people to draw lines between. And they still got the answers just completely wrong.
How does someone think an egg comes from wheat or maize?! That's too absurd for words. Unless, maybe, they've only seen eggs in scrambled form.

In any case, that is shockingly idiotic.
 
2012-06-14 11:28:41 AM  
Were my grandmother still alive, my son would know quite intimately where meat and eggs came from.

Grew up watching her behead chickens in the front yard (and the run-around-headless hijinks afterwards). She was still doing it when she was 90.

And then there was the day when she climbed into a hog pen to slaughter a hog with our next-door neighbor backing her up with a shotgun. She was probably about 75 or so then.

My husband was horrified by the stories. Our roommate, who was born and bred in Virginia, just nodded sagely. He grew up the same way too.

/miss ya, grandma!
 
2012-06-14 11:28:55 AM  
Millennium: One common argument in vegetarian circles is that people have become too disconnected from their food: they no longer draw the relationship between what exactly they eat and where it comes from. I disagree with the conclusions they draw from this observation, but I do think there's something to the observation itself.

I'm sure if people had to slaughter and butcher their own animals there would be more vegetarians, and I'm about as big of a meat fan as there is.

Yes, I have killed and butchered animals before.
 
2012-06-14 11:28:58 AM  

Pair-o-Dice: LIES! Butter comes from the dairy aisle.


Yeah and those filthy dairies are always hanging out there and leering at me when I go to buy butter. Some of the things they want to do to me with it is pornographic!
 
2012-06-14 11:29:13 AM  

Millennium: One common argument in vegetarian circles is that people have become too disconnected from their food: they no longer draw the relationship between what exactly they eat and where it comes from. I disagree with the conclusions they draw from this observation, but I do think there's something to the observation itself.


Not me. I hunt and kill my own carrots.
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-14 11:29:47 AM  
Do they also know that hens come from eggs?
 
2012-06-14 11:29:59 AM  

Confabulat: Butter comes from cows? Is there anything they can't do?


Bacon...
 
2012-06-14 11:30:10 AM  

danielscissorhands: ...And 2/3 don't know where toothpaste comes from.


From teeth right?
 
2012-06-14 11:31:03 AM  

aerojockey: If only these people also didn't know penis goes in the vagina.


Isn't that how you get rapeseed oil?
 
2012-06-14 11:31:21 AM  

danielscissorhands: ...And 2/3 don't know where toothpaste comes from.


Nor do they speak actual English.
 
2012-06-14 11:31:35 AM  
11% thought eggs come from wheat? You know those kids were farking with the pollsters.
 
2012-06-14 11:31:43 AM  

Cythraul: And cheese comes from a box marked 'Velveeta.'



Pfft. What are you a caveman? Cheez comes out of a can.
 
2012-06-14 11:31:53 AM  

Oldiron_79: I'm sure if people had to slaughter and butcher their own animals there would be more vegetarians, and I'm about as big of a meat fan as there is.


If you go back to the age where people lived on farms, the meat portion of the diet goes up and vegetables go down. Grains go way up.
 
2012-06-14 11:32:30 AM  

loonatic112358: Do they also know that hens come from eggs?


Yes, but they don't know which comes first.
 
2012-06-14 11:32:46 AM  
Haha!
British people are so stupid.
 
2012-06-14 11:32:57 AM  
simpsonswiki.net
(hot)
 
2012-06-14 11:33:29 AM  

Gwendolyn: I have three kids in U.S. public schools. There are facts every day that get mentioned where I ask them "Didn't you go over that in school by now?" The answer is always no. I mean easy things like who Teddy Roosevelt was or how the nervous system works.


Weird. My local schools are all about standardized tests, but they definitely learn a lot of other stuff. My kids studied parts of the brain (and heart, and digestive system) and had at least heard of all of the presidents by the time they left 5th grade. Heck, I got into an argument with one of them about Coolidge versus Hoover, so I was more annoyed that history was only getting superficial treatment.
 
2012-06-14 11:33:36 AM  

Sticky Hands: I don't know about that stuff, I do know that:
Peaches come from a can, they were put there by a man.
In a factory downtown.
If I had my little way I'd eat peaches everyday. Sun soakin bulges in the shade


Get out of my head.
 
2012-06-14 11:34:24 AM  

Confabulat: Butter comes from cows? Is there anything they can't do?


Vote. Except in Iowa.
 
2012-06-14 11:34:44 AM  
Drtfa but did it mention how they were asked? The exact questions could be rather insightful...
 
2012-06-14 11:34:54 AM  
I am going to make it a point to quiz both of my kids (11 and 13) on this, after work. I just want to see how they do. I can already say with confidence they will get every single question right.

Here's a good question for all you Farkers (and no checking Wikipedia):
What is a coconut, a fruit or a seed?
 
2012-06-14 11:35:04 AM  
Let me see if I understand this; butter is made from cream. Cream is a dairy product, and we get said dairy product from cows. Unless we're talking soy/almond milk, but I've never heard of soy/almond cream, so work with me here. So fewer than half the young adults in the UK can't reasonably deduce that if butter is made from cream, and cream comes from cows, therefore we get butter from cows?

o_O

The eggs coming from hens is even more baffling. Not because I didn't know that, but because I can't believe other people don't know that. Hens lay eggs. HOW THE FARK DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS?! I grew up in Chicago, my boyfriend grew up in New York....neither locations known for their sprawling farmland, and this isn't something outside our realm of understanding, even though I personally have never been to a farm. I know where the shiat comes from before it gets to the grocery store.
 
2012-06-14 11:36:05 AM  

JackieRabbit: loonatic112358: Do they also know that hens come from eggs?

Yes, but they don't know which comes first.


I ate the chicken and then I ate its leg.
 
2012-06-14 11:37:04 AM  

Gimmick: 11% thought eggs come from wheat? You know those kids were farking with the pollsters.


Police sketch of typical poll respondent:

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-14 11:37:30 AM  
I thought British people got their eggs and milk from brown people in the colonies?
 
2012-06-14 11:38:20 AM  

Coco LaFemme: HOW THE FARK DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS?!


Young people have fun trolling surveys with BS answers. The more serious adults take it and the less accountable they are for the answers, the sillier they get.

More at 11.
 
2012-06-14 11:38:20 AM  
Yeah, sure. The next thing you know, you'll try to be telling me that bacon, ham and pork chops come from the same wonderful magical animal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EHsbIcV-6I
 
2012-06-14 11:38:46 AM  

Gwendolyn: I have three kids in U.S. public schools. There are facts every day that get mentioned where I ask them "Didn't you go over that in school by now?" The answer is always no. I mean easy things like who Teddy Roosevelt was or how the nervous system works. You would think schools would cover that kind of thing by 10th grade. It's not like these are stupid kids they are in all AP and honor classes but schools just push reading and math anymore around here. It gets better around 10th grade because high school students are tested on more than just Math and English examinations. The other subjects just seem to get what ever time and resources are left over. Our old middle school had 2 periods a day of Math and English. One period alternated between science and social studies every other day. One was lunch and the last was for gym / elective. If kids wanted to take a foreign language they had to give up their free time before and during homeroom.

You wanted standardized testing to be the measuring stick for funding then you get schools only giving a shiat about what is on the test.


Have you considered that your kids were taught these things, but your special snowflakes are stupid and forgot?
 
2012-06-14 11:38:51 AM  

Gwendolyn: You wanted standardized testing to be the measuring stick for funding then you get schools only giving a shiat about what is on the test.


This is the real danger of standardized testing. The test results become so important for school administrators and teachers that they focus all their efforts on them. Then they begin to cheat on them.
 
2012-06-14 11:39:17 AM  

monoski: Confabulat: Butter comes from cows? Is there anything they can't do?

Bacon...


www.baconscotch.info

Try again
 
2012-06-14 11:39:26 AM  
and the brown cows give chocolate milk!! yummmmmm
 
2012-06-14 11:40:33 AM  
Ok. Most of that is ridiculous, but how long does it take to grow a potato?
 
2012-06-14 11:41:43 AM  

SuperChuck: danielscissorhands: ...And 2/3 don't know where toothpaste comes from.

From teeth right?


Well, duh. Bread crumbs come from bread, sun flower seeds come from sunflowers, bird seed comes from birds, cat food comes from cats, tooth paste comes from teeth. I could go on, and on.
 
2012-06-14 11:41:44 AM  
Most kids (and parents) on benefits or food stamps probably think it all comes from the government.
 
2012-06-14 11:41:50 AM  

durbnpoisn: FTFA: Three in 10 adults born in the 1990s haven't visited a farm in more than 10 years,

How can this be? Maybe it's because I live in NJ, but I see farms literally every day. I may only visit one once every few months. But they are all over the place.

I can see that. I live in Atlanta and the only time I see farms is from 33,000 ft. Unless I road trip, which I rarely do anymore, there's really no way I'd ever see a farm.

If I didn't visit my parents in rural Indiana every Xmas I'd never see a farm.

On the flip side, I'm pretty sure my children will know why those women are wearing hot pants on the street corner long before I figured it out.
 
2012-06-14 11:41:51 AM  
I was having a discussion at the office yesterday, and one of my co-workers didn't know that soap comes from mines. He thought that they made it in factories or something. I had to tell him that my grandfather worked as a foreman in a soap mine for 40 years, ever fearing a dreaded Ivory cave-in, wearing a respirator to ward off sud-lung.
 
2012-06-14 11:41:54 AM  

IrateShadow: how long does it take to grow a potato?


Before I tell you. . . can you count?
 
2012-06-14 11:42:22 AM  
www.yourfunnystuff.com
 
2012-06-14 11:42:38 AM  

Gimmick: 11% thought eggs come from wheat? You know those kids were farking with the pollsters.


I dunno. With each passing generation, the IQ seems to get lower and lower
 
2012-06-14 11:42:50 AM  

Raug the Dwarf: BBQ ribs are pig ribs.


How dare you not tell them about delicious BBQ beef ribs!
 
2012-06-14 11:42:58 AM  

Coco LaFemme: JackieRabbit: loonatic112358: Do they also know that hens come from eggs?

Yes, but they don't know which comes first.

I ate the chicken and then I ate its leg.


i112.photobucket.com

Got nothing.
 
2012-06-14 11:43:19 AM  
So what? Most people dont know how their car works, or their computer works, or how electricity works, or GASP how their own body works. But life goes on. Its called abstraction. You dont need to know how everything works as long as someone down the line does and can ensure that it works for everyone else. Thats how society works as a whole to advance. If everybody had to worry about everything then we'd never get anywhere.
 
2012-06-14 11:43:24 AM  
I think it is a little tricky to show them beef and dairy cows as options for milk. Counting beef cattle wrong is stupid because 1. They do make milk and 2. Expecting city folk to know cattle types is effing stupid. Of course a bunch of people don't know the difference. Also I choose to believe that some of those people were trolling with the egg question because god damn...

/knows a Holstein from a Herford
 
2012-06-14 11:43:27 AM  

danielscissorhands: SuperChuck: danielscissorhands: ...And 2/3 don't know where toothpaste comes from.

From teeth right?

Well, duh. Bread crumbs come from bread, sun flower seeds come from sunflowers, bird seed comes from birds, cat food comes from cats, tooth paste comes from teeth. I could go on, and on.


I used to think baby oil was to fix squeaky babies. Now I am sick to my stomach.
 
2012-06-14 11:43:48 AM  
Without knowing from where it comes..... thy use it everyday..... petty about those young adults..... !!!
 
2012-06-14 11:45:39 AM  

lasercannon: monoski: Confabulat: Butter comes from cows? Is there anything they can't do?

Bacon...


Try again


Wow, I am impressed. Cows CAN do anything!
 
2012-06-14 11:45:44 AM  

TheOriginalEd: So what? Most people dont know how their car works, or their computer works, or how electricity works, or GASP how their own body works.


Demons, gremlins, lightning bugs, and magic, respectively.
 
2012-06-14 11:45:45 AM  
I often see these surveys and think back to when I used to be given random surveys and fill random shiat in ... I hope I didn't skew the statistics too much, it doesn't reflect on our nation very well.
 
2012-06-14 11:46:58 AM  

JackieRabbit: A third don't know that they came from the postman.


Wait a minute -- Mr. Postman?
 
2012-06-14 11:47:34 AM  

ace in your face: I think it is a little tricky to show them beef and dairy cows as options for milk. Counting beef cattle wrong is stupid because 1. They do make milk and 2. Expecting city folk to know cattle types is effing stupid. Of course a bunch of people don't know the difference. Also I choose to believe that some of those people were trolling with the egg question because god damn...

/knows a Holstein from a Herford


Duh, one's in Iowa, the other is in Germany. Who doesn't know that?

Hereford, on the other hand...
 
2012-06-14 11:47:58 AM  

Oldiron_79: Millennium: One common argument in vegetarian circles is that people have become too disconnected from their food: they no longer draw the relationship between what exactly they eat and where it comes from. I disagree with the conclusions they draw from this observation, but I do think there's something to the observation itself.

I'm sure if people had to slaughter and butcher their own animals there would be more vegetarians, and I'm about as big of a meat fan as there is.

Yes, I have killed and butchered animals before.

I'm

sure that if vegetarians had to grow all of their food they would gladly kill a cow or two.
 
2012-06-14 11:48:41 AM  
I wish I had a cow that pooped butter
 
2012-06-14 11:48:54 AM  

Bacontastesgood: Raug the Dwarf: BBQ ribs are pig ribs.

How dare you not tell them about delicious BBQ beef ribs!


We eat beef ribs on occasion too. But my oldest's favorite meal is BBQ pork ribs so that's the example I ran with.
 
2012-06-14 11:50:50 AM  
naz-drala: Oldiron_79: Millennium: One common argument in vegetarian circles is that people have become too disconnected from their food: they no longer draw the relationship between what exactly they eat and where it comes from. I disagree with the conclusions they draw from this observation, but I do think there's something to the observation itself.

I'm sure if people had to slaughter and butcher their own animals there would be more vegetarians, and I'm about as big of a meat fan as there is.

Yes, I have killed and butchered animals before.

I'm sure that if vegetarians had to grow all of their food they would gladly kill a cow or two.


Especially if they had to only eat canned/dried veggies in the winter and couldn't have fresh stuff shipped in from the equator.
 
2012-06-14 11:51:18 AM  

Coco LaFemme: I grew up in Chicago, my boyfriend grew up in New York....neither locations known for their sprawling farmland


Wow, really?

Because I moved to New York (a state which is mostly agricultural) from McHenry (in Illinois, which is probably even BEST known for its agriculture) and I saw nothing but farmland growing up.

Hell, many of my classmates lived on farms.

And even in Brooklyn now you have all these co-op farms on vacant lots. You can even get city-grown honey in both New York and Chicago.

Did you and your boyfriend just stick to the blighted areas or something?
 
2012-06-14 11:51:25 AM  
Two years ago, my wife and I decided we were too disconnected from our food chain, especially our meat. We decided we had two choices; become vegetarians or raise our own meat using methods that we considered ethical, ecologically sound, and up to our own health standards.

For this and a host of other reasons, we moved from a condo in downtown Phoenix to a ten-acre farm in Michigan. We now raise our own chickens, cattle, ducks, pigs, and lambs, using a rotational grazing strategy, a la Joel Salatin.

It's not for everybody. But I can't imagine NOT doing it now. At least once in a lifetime, everyone should take direct responsibility for the meat that they eat.
 
2012-06-14 11:52:42 AM  
This is exactly why I got my kid some chickens.

fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net

He did get an unanticipated lesson in some other facts of life when a coyote made off with a couple of the hens though :-/
 
2012-06-14 11:55:31 AM  
Maybe kids don't know where butter comes from because they don't eat it, and they don't eat it because their parents grew up eating margarine.

Initially people ate margarine because it was cheaper than butter. Then the industry started promoting it as being healthier than butter. But if I'm going to eat hydrogenated fat then I want it to be naturally hydrogenated by a cow.

Many still think margarine is the right alternative to butter. This Google search for recipes using margarine gives About 7,720,000 results so as you can see there are still lots of people who like the fake stuff.
 
2012-06-14 11:56:33 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Coco LaFemme: I grew up in Chicago, my boyfriend grew up in New York....neither locations known for their sprawling farmland

Wow, really?

Because I moved to New York (a state which is mostly agricultural) from McHenry (in Illinois, which is probably even BEST known for its agriculture) and I saw nothing but farmland growing up.


Dude, I lived in Chicago for a bit. To a Chicagoan, McHenry County might as well be in Iowa. Hell, even for Schaumburgians, McHenry County is Iowa. They never go there. Why would they?
 
2012-06-14 11:57:06 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Confabulat: Butter comes from cows? Is there anything they can't do?

Indeed. They give us steak and hamburgers too.

But pigs are even better. They give us bacon, ham and pork chops. They're a wonderful, magical animal!


I'm pretty sure "give" isn't the word they'd use. They are more likely to say "oink" or "moo".
 
2012-06-14 11:58:22 AM  
And almost 90% don't know what a henway is
 
2012-06-14 11:59:49 AM  

durbnpoisn: I am going to make it a point to quiz both of my kids (11 and 13) on this, after work. I just want to see how they do. I can already say with confidence they will get every single question right.

Here's a good question for all you Farkers (and no checking Wikipedia):
What is a coconut, a fruit or a seed?


The coconut is a seed -- the largest seed in the world, if I remember correctly -- but it grows within a fruit. (I will check Wikipedia after this just to see how correct I am about the fruit part.)

On a different note, wouldn't it be fun to test city kids about vegetables using heirloom produce?
 
2012-06-14 12:01:22 PM  

fireclown: I just want to take this moment to thank subby for saying fewer rather than less.


So, what? I'm suddenly using 'fewer than' signs? I think not, my good man. I think not.
 
2012-06-14 12:02:54 PM  
Lexington is horse country, not cow country.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-06-14 12:03:36 PM  
www.cartoonstock.com
 
2012-06-14 12:04:00 PM  

Raug the Dwarf: I've always made sure my kids know where their food is coming from. We live in the 'food belt' so it's not really hard. Drive by a feedlot and see the cows or pigs running around. "There goes lunch, boys."

We were at a buffet restaurant the other day and the boys were munching on clams, shrimp and calamari.

My oldest looks over, "Daddy. Do they kill the clams before we eat them?

"Yep, they sure do. Then they fry them, then we eat them."

My youngest says, "Dad. Do they kill the shrimps too?"

"Yep. They cut off the heads and cook them. Then we eat them."

The oldest looks down at my porkchop. "What about the pigs, Dad. They kill them too so we can eat them?"

"Yup. They kill the pigs and cut off different parts. Ham is from the pig's butt. Bacon is from the belly. BBQ ribs are pig ribs. Loins come from the soft part around the leg.""Oooh," he says, stuffing another clam in his face. A few seconds later...."Daddy. We should get a pig."



That's my boy!


Pork loin comes from the top of the ribs along the back. Same place filet mignon comes from on a cow. But let's face it, it's ALL good.
 
2012-06-14 12:04:02 PM  

Confabulat: Butter comes from cows? Is there anything they can't do?


I thought "butter" was hydrogenated soybean oil. Or maybe that's just the fake spreads.
 
2012-06-14 12:04:58 PM  

TheOriginalEd: So what? Most people dont know how their car works, or their computer works, or how electricity works, or GASP how their own body works. But life goes on. Its called abstraction. You dont need to know how everything works as long as someone down the line does and can ensure that it works for everyone else. Thats how society works as a whole to advance. If everybody had to worry about everything then we'd never get anywhere.



"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -RAH

How well does society do when the handful of people with the specialized knowledge we all depend on all die in a plane crash?

How do we make the advances that require the correlation and cooperation of completely disparate fields?

Overspecialization is unnecessary and it's a losing strategy for survival.
 
2012-06-14 12:07:55 PM  

JesseL: TheOriginalEd: So what? Most people dont know how their car works, or their computer works, or how electricity works, or GASP how their own body works. But life goes on. Its called abstraction. You dont need to know how everything works as long as someone down the line does and can ensure that it works for everyone else. Thats how society works as a whole to advance. If everybody had to worry about everything then we'd never get anywhere.


"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -RAH

How well does society do when the handful of people with the specialized knowledge we all depend on all die in a plane crash?

How do we make the advances that require the correlation and cooperation of completely disparate fields?

Overspecialization is unnecessary and it's a losing strategy for survival.


Wow.

Well, let's go with that train of thought.

The first things you must do is:

Have water.
Have shelter.
Have clothing.
Have food.
Have heat.

So, of those things, which can you do? I figure you'd last a week before you die of thirst or you eat something poisonous.
 
2012-06-14 12:10:39 PM  

JesseL: TheOriginalEd: So what? Most people dont know how their car works, or their computer works, or how electricity works, or GASP how their own body works. But life goes on. Its called abstraction. You dont need to know how everything works as long as someone down the line does and can ensure that it works for everyone else. Thats how society works as a whole to advance. If everybody had to worry about everything then we'd never get anywhere.


"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -RAH

How well does society do when the handful of people with the specialized knowledge we all depend on all die in a plane crash?

How do we make the advances that require the correlation and cooperation of completely disparate fields?

Overspecialization is unnecessary and it's a losing strategy for survival.


Specialization is how we developed a standard of living above subsistence farming. It is the only way you and me and communicate on this strange and mystical box.
 
2012-06-14 12:11:23 PM  
Yeah, but how many Farkers know, you have to kill at least 5 million innocent little yeast cells to make just one bottle of Heineken?

--------- Heartless murdering fiends, all of you.
 
2012-06-14 12:12:02 PM  

JesseL: This is exactly why I got my kid some chickens.

[fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net image 180x225]

He did get an unanticipated lesson in some other facts of life when a coyote made off with a couple of the hens though :-/


He looks thrilled. "Dad...I asked for a puppy"
 
2012-06-14 12:12:40 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Coco LaFemme: I grew up in Chicago, my boyfriend grew up in New York....neither locations known for their sprawling farmland

Wow, really?

Because I moved to New York (a state which is mostly agricultural) from McHenry (in Illinois, which is probably even BEST known for its agriculture) and I saw nothing but farmland growing up.

Hell, many of my classmates lived on farms.

And even in Brooklyn now you have all these co-op farms on vacant lots. You can even get city-grown honey in both New York and Chicago.

Did you and your boyfriend just stick to the blighted areas or something?


I don't recall too much farmland in Wrigleyville, where I grew up. Or in Greenwich Village, where he grew up. So no, we didn't stick to the "blighted" areas. It's called living in an large, metropolitan urban environment. I'm aware there's tons of farmland in the state of Illinois and the state of New York. That doesn't mean I personally saw any of it, or visited any.
 
2012-06-14 12:12:50 PM  

Snarfangel: danielscissorhands: SuperChuck: danielscissorhands: ...And 2/3 don't know where toothpaste comes from.

From teeth right?

Well, duh. Bread crumbs come from bread, sun flower seeds come from sunflowers, bird seed comes from birds, cat food comes from cats, tooth paste comes from teeth. I could go on, and on.

I used to think baby oil was to fix squeaky babies. Now I am sick to my stomach.


As you should be. Planned Parenthood actually runs all the baby oil factories.

/Note to conservatives: this is a joke.
 
2012-06-14 12:14:06 PM  
xtremesport4u.com
 
2012-06-14 12:14:18 PM  

Xanlexian: Coco LaFemme: JackieRabbit: loonatic112358: Do they also know that hens come from eggs?

Yes, but they don't know which comes first.

I ate the chicken and then I ate its leg.

[i112.photobucket.com image 500x390]

Got nothing.


Beastie Boys reference. It's from the song Egg Man.

"Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I ate the chicken, and then I ate its leg."
 
2012-06-14 12:14:28 PM  

olddinosaur: Yeah, but how many Farkers know, you have to kill at least 5 million innocent little yeast cells to make just one bottle of Heineken?

--------- Heartless murdering fiends, all of you.


If a yeast cell ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about.
Hell who hasn't gone downtown before only to find a whole mess of the little bastards waiting to ruin your evening.
 
2012-06-14 12:19:07 PM  
loonatic112358: Do they also know that hens come from eggs?

Yes, but they don't know which comes first.



I figured this out decades ago...the egg came first. Eggs have been used for production since the dinosaurs. 200+ million years ago.
 
2012-06-14 12:26:46 PM  

Tanthalas39: For this and a host of other reasons, we moved from a condo in downtown Phoenix to a ten-acre farm in Michigan. We now raise our own chickens, cattle, ducks, pigs, and lambs, using a rotational grazing strategy, a la Joel Salatin.


That is actually pretty cool. Good for you.
 
2012-06-14 12:29:50 PM  

Shazam999: Wow.

Well, let's go with that train of thought.

The first things you must do is:

Have water.
Have shelter.
Have clothing.
Have food.
Have heat.

So, of those things, which can you do? I figure you'd last a week before you die of thirst or you eat something poisonous.


I can do all those things. They're not that hard. Your average 12 year old Boy Scout can manage them. Amazingly, you're probably descended from people who managed to do it.

You really missed my point though. I never said you should have to depend daily on your ability to do everything for yourself. You should have at least a layman's understanding of most of the world around you.

Rapmaster2000: Specialization is how we developed a standard of living above subsistence farming. It is the only way you and me and communicate on this strange and mystical box.


Specialization is how we maintain it. The people who developed it tended to be the sort of polymaths who could see beyond the end of their noses.

Specialization is fine. Over-specialization is foolish. There's no reason not to gain as much knowledge as the length of your life allows.
 
2012-06-14 12:33:16 PM  

JesseL: Shazam999: Wow.

Well, let's go with that train of thought.

The first things you must do is:

Have water.
Have shelter.
Have clothing.
Have food.
Have heat.

So, of those things, which can you do? I figure you'd last a week before you die of thirst or you eat something poisonous.

I can do all those things. They're not that hard. Your average 12 year old Boy Scout can manage them. Amazingly, you're probably descended from people who managed to do it.

You really missed my point though. I never said you should have to depend daily on your ability to do everything for yourself. You should have at least a layman's understanding of most of the world around you.


Yes... And we've gotten past that. That's why we're both at work and instead of working we're looking at links on fark.com.

Specialization is fine. Over-specialization is foolish. There's no reason not to gain as much knowledge as the length of your life allows.

You tell us where the line is. You just sound old.
 
2012-06-14 12:34:31 PM  

Gwendolyn: I have three kids in U.S. public schools.


There is your problem.

/LOLs
 
2012-06-14 12:36:01 PM  
Admittedly I had no idea salad dressing comes from rapeseed oil. Then again, I don't usually associate myself with THOSE sorts of foods.
 
2012-06-14 12:39:01 PM  

IrateShadow: Ok. Most of that is ridiculous, but how long does it take to grow a potato?


THey can't tell you; they can't count that high.
 
2012-06-14 12:39:57 PM  

JesseL:

Specialization is how we maintain it. The people who developed it tended to be the sort of polymaths who could see beyond the end of their noses.

Specialization is fine. Over-specialization is foolish. There's no reason not to gain as much knowledge as the length of your life allows.


You can do both. I think your problem is that you've invented these cityfied stereotypes who you've labeled with the term "overspecialized" to prove that you're more wizend and "real" than them.

I think Hank Williams Jr. did that in "Country Boy Can Survive".
 
2012-06-14 12:41:17 PM  

Rapmaster2000: JesseL:

Specialization is how we maintain it. The people who developed it tended to be the sort of polymaths who could see beyond the end of their noses.

Specialization is fine. Over-specialization is foolish. There's no reason not to gain as much knowledge as the length of your life allows.

You can do both. I think your problem is that you've invented these cityfied stereotypes who you've labeled with the term "overspecialized" to prove that you're more wizend and "real" than them.

I think Hank Williams Jr. did that in "Country Boy Can Survive".


His profile pic is him roasting a marshmallow with a kid. He made the marshmallow himself.
 
2012-06-14 12:41:41 PM  
But they do know that goats are born from the nanny state.

/(definition 4.): a bad or inferior member of any group (esp in the phrase separate the sheep from the goats )
//Not saying US kids are any better.
 
2012-06-14 12:42:28 PM  

TheOriginalEd: So what? Most people dont know how their car works, or their computer works, or how electricity works, or GASP how their own body works. But life goes on. Its called abstraction. You dont need to know how everything works as long as someone down the line does and can ensure that it works for everyone else. Thats how society works as a whole to advance.


It's how society winds up with a bunch of retards who vote against their own interests. Knowing what food comes from where isn't a huge civic burden.
 
2012-06-14 12:42:44 PM  

Dirtybird971: Dear Lord. Please make this article a hoax.


Don't worry, it is.

The "study" comes from a biased think tank that wants to get their agenda into the schools. I bet we're looking at some heavy duty file drawer effects combined with surprising small sample sizes.

British views on Farming
 
2012-06-14 12:44:37 PM  
Well if your family only eats that fake butter crap in a tub, but they call it butter, then in your experience "butter" has nothing to do with dairy cows.

I call bullshiat on not knowing that eggs come from chickens.
 
2012-06-14 12:46:01 PM  

Gwendolyn: You wanted standardized testing to be the measuring stick for funding then you get schools only giving a shiat about what is on the test.


The saddest bit about No Child Left Behind (other that the fact that it is creating a entire generation of children left behind) is that the Texas model for it (and the eventual National program) has been shown to be a fraud and a failure:

Link

Link

Link

It's a tragedy based on a lie and should have been repealed yesterday.

Why would Republicans want an uneducated, unreasoning population, I wonder?
 
2012-06-14 12:49:33 PM  
People who can't answer this shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 
2012-06-14 12:49:43 PM  
I suspect that the problem is their ability to answer survey questions or their desire to not seem knowledgeable after being reared in a culture that lauds dimwits.
 
2012-06-14 12:51:01 PM  

TalonZahn: I have no idea what you are all talking about.

I milk my wheat and collect the eggs it lays every morning before I retrieve bacon from the tree in my front yard.


Can I get some cuttings from your spaghetti bushes?

shewalkssoftly.files.wordpress.com

The rest of the story
 
2012-06-14 12:51:02 PM  
From "Lisa the Vegetarian":

Lisa: No I can't! I can't eat any of them!
Homer: Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute. Lisa honey, are you
saying you're *never* going to eat any animal again? What about
bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad! Those all come from the same animal!
Homer: [Chuckles] Yeah, right Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.

The next best reference is probably the scene from Bottom where Rik Mayall asks Edmunston what caviar is and Edmunston claims it is "fish poo".
 
2012-06-14 12:51:25 PM  

Rapmaster2000: JesseL:

Specialization is how we maintain it. The people who developed it tended to be the sort of polymaths who could see beyond the end of their noses.

Specialization is fine. Over-specialization is foolish. There's no reason not to gain as much knowledge as the length of your life allows.

You can do both. I think your problem is that you've invented these cityfied stereotypes who you've labeled with the term "overspecialized" to prove that you're more wizend and "real" than them.

I think Hank Williams Jr. did that in "Country Boy Can Survive".


Take a look back at TheOriginalEd's post (to which I was initially responding) and tell me that there aren't people who aren't wallowing in ignorance and even defending the practice.
 
2012-06-14 12:51:31 PM  

JackieRabbit: loonatic112358: Do they also know that hens come from eggs?

Yes, but they don't know which comes first.


The rooster.
 
2012-06-14 12:52:12 PM  

Deucednuisance: Gwendolyn: You wanted standardized testing to be the measuring stick for funding then you get schools only giving a shiat about what is on the test.

The saddest bit about No Child Left Behind (other that the fact that it is creating a entire generation of children left behind) is that the Texas model for it (and the eventual National program) has been shown to be a fraud and a failure:

Link

Link

Link

It's a tragedy based on a lie and should have been repealed yesterday.

Why would Republicans want an uneducated, unreasoning population, I wonder?


In a way, it works. No child has been left behind. It's just that we've dumbed them all down enough that even the potato crowd is right up there with the rest of 'em.

Fark, I hate what they're doing to the schools.
 
2012-06-14 12:52:13 PM  
JesseL:

How well does society do when the handful of people with the specialized knowledge we all depend on all die in a plane crash?

How do we make the advances that require the correlation and cooperation of completely disparate fields?

Overspecialization is unnecessary and it's a losing strategy for survival.


While you're right that "overspecialization is unnecessary", you're just saying a tautology. By definition, overspecialization is "specializing more than necessary". However, your underlying point, that specialization is bad for the success of humanity, is far from obvious. Given the vast number of people on Earth (or even in an average city), I'd say humans can afford to specialize very, very deeply.

We have 7 billion people on the planet, each with varied pieces of knowledge. As an example of how insanely many people that is, if 9 out of 10 people on Earth were randomly snatched away by aliens, humanity would lose a statistically insignificant amount of knowledge.
 
2012-06-14 12:54:30 PM  

JesseL: I can do all those things. They're not that hard.


Please, do lay out the means of which you would clothe yourself in a manner that would allow you to survive a year's worth of weather conditions. What material would you use, and how would you process it into safe and effective clothing in a time-efficient manner.

Also, go into great detail on your experiences with irrigation, animal husbandry, and construction of shelters without the use of metal tools.
 
2012-06-14 12:55:13 PM  

JesseL: Rapmaster2000: JesseL:

Specialization is how we maintain it. The people who developed it tended to be the sort of polymaths who could see beyond the end of their noses.

Specialization is fine. Over-specialization is foolish. There's no reason not to gain as much knowledge as the length of your life allows.

You can do both. I think your problem is that you've invented these cityfied stereotypes who you've labeled with the term "overspecialized" to prove that you're more wizend and "real" than them.

I think Hank Williams Jr. did that in "Country Boy Can Survive".

Take a look back at TheOriginalEd's post (to which I was initially responding) and tell me that there aren't people who aren't wallowing in ignorance and even defending the practice.


Dude, modern society is so complex, you don't even know what you're ignorant about.

Maybe you could tell me how packets are routed on the internet.
 
2012-06-14 12:56:23 PM  

Shazam999: You tell us where the line is. You just sound old.


How about, "know enough to not be easily taken advantage of"

You don't have to be able to build an engine, or program a compiler, but it would be good to know enough about the things you use every day that you don't get sold blinker fluid, click on links to make your computer run 100% faster, or buy the extended warranty.
 
2012-06-14 12:58:03 PM  

danielscissorhands: Well, duh. Bread crumbs come from bread, sun flower seeds come from sunflowers, bird seed comes from birds, cat food comes from cats, tooth paste comes from teeth. I could go on, and on.


And Baby Food?
 
2012-06-14 12:58:30 PM  

Sticky Hands: Shazam999: You tell us where the line is. You just sound old.

How about, "know enough to not be easily taken advantage of"

You don't have to be able to build an engine, or program a compiler, but it would be good to know enough about the things you use every day that you don't get sold blinker fluid, click on links to make your computer run 100% faster, or buy the extended warranty.


That's too overspecialized for me. I just made my own TV. That's being self-sufficient.
 
2012-06-14 12:59:22 PM  

IrateShadow: Ok. Most of that is ridiculous, but how long does it take to grow a potato?


A lot longer than it takes to count to it, that's for sure!
 
2012-06-14 01:02:16 PM  

TheOriginalEd: So what? Most people dont know how their car works, or their computer works, or how electricity works, or GASP how their own body works. But life goes on. Its called abstraction. You dont need to know how everything works as long as someone down the line does and can ensure that it works for everyone else. Thats how society works as a whole to advance. If everybody had to worry about everything then we'd never get anywhere.


And this is why Libertarianism is retarded.

(This Politics tab threadjack is brought to you by Chicken Leg and Potatoes, now with Extra Bacon!)
 
2012-06-14 01:02:20 PM  
I'll just leave this one hanging her: tapiocca.

Where does it come from?

I'm guessing that a lot of Farkers don't know the answer because it is far from obvious. We eat a tremendous number of things, many of them not what they seem, so I don't know why people think urban youth should know about the eggs and the milk. Half the stuff we eat is adulterated, substituted or called by another name.

There's no blueberries in blueberry muffins half the time, cherry cobbler is made with apples, cranberry juice is about 99% apple or pear juice, the "pimento" in olives is not a pepper, and mock crab is made from pollack. We are fed fakes of every kind (fake truffles, fake fash) and even "whole" foods such as a steak may be bits of trimmings glued together to look like a cut of meat.

Everything is so denatured that being skeptical of claims that eggs come from hens or milk from cows might be regarded as healthy consumerist skepticism.
 
2012-06-14 01:02:29 PM  

JesseL:

Take a look back at TheOriginalEd's post (to which I was initially responding) and tell me that there aren't people who aren't wallowing in ignorance and even defending the practice.


I thought it was a fine comment. While it was broad it expressed the proper point.

There is significant specialization affecting every part your daily life and it is inseparable from the exponential increase of technological innovation that we have been experiencing since we finally got around to inventing agriculture.

I'm not sure why you're defining a group of people who you've deemed "overspecialized" simply to critique them. This sounds like a "kids these days" type of thing.
 
2012-06-14 01:03:07 PM  
Which teat of the cow gives the soft ice cream?
 
2012-06-14 01:03:53 PM  
Well, if corn oil comes from corn, and olive oil comes from olives, where does baby oil come from?
 
2012-06-14 01:04:47 PM  

IrateShadow: Ok. Most of that is ridiculous, but how long does it take to grow a potato?


If you're taking a starter tuber and planting that, then about 60-120 days depending on cultivar and climate.
 
2012-06-14 01:05:52 PM  

Shazam999: Dude, modern society is so complex, you don't even know what you're ignorant about.

Maybe you could tell me how packets are routed on the internet.


Dude, I'm an IT guy. Do you want an explanation of static routing tables, RIP, or one of the other route selection protocols?

At work I'm also an electronic technician, test engineer, SMT pick and place machine programmer, CNC solder machine programmer, and general handyman.
 
2012-06-14 01:06:31 PM  

leonel: Admittedly I had no idea salad dressing comes from rapeseed oil. Then again, I don't usually associate myself with THOSE sorts of foods.


I think the standard is "MAY CONTAIN ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING: COTTON, SOYBEAN, AND/OR RAPESEED OIL" or some such.

/yes, when I have nothing else to read while I eat, I read ingredient labels
 
2012-06-14 01:06:51 PM  

JesseL: Shazam999: Dude, modern society is so complex, you don't even know what you're ignorant about.

Maybe you could tell me how packets are routed on the internet.

Dude, I'm an IT guy. Do you want an explanation of static routing tables, RIP, or one of the other route selection protocols?

At work I'm also an electronic technician, test engineer, SMT pick and place machine programmer, CNC solder machine programmer, and general handyman.


And you're complaining about "over-specialization"? Fark me, you're a moron.
 
2012-06-14 01:07:19 PM  
dogboy360: Well, if corn oil comes from corn, and olive oil comes from olives, where does baby oil come from?

Soylent green, DUH.
 
2012-06-14 01:08:28 PM  

MyNameIsMofuga: I thought British people got their eggs and milk from brown people in the colonies?


No, don't be silly. Meat and eggs come from Denmark in super-lorries driven by Arabs.
 
2012-06-14 01:10:16 PM  

You know what's funny?
upload.wikimedia.org
I always thought dogs... ahm... lay eggs.
 
2012-06-14 01:10:38 PM  

IrateShadow: Ok. Most of that is ridiculous, but how long does it take to grow a potato?


It depends. Do you plan to keep an eye on it?
 
2012-06-14 01:11:42 PM  
They need to show them this.
 
2012-06-14 01:11:58 PM  

JesseL: Shazam999: Dude, modern society is so complex, you don't even know what you're ignorant about.

Maybe you could tell me how packets are routed on the internet.

Dude, I'm an IT guy. Do you want an explanation of static routing tables, RIP, or one of the other route selection protocols?

At work I'm also an electronic technician, test engineer, SMT pick and place machine programmer, CNC solder machine programmer, and general handyman.



Still clumsy with the chicks though, amirite?

I keed.
 
2012-06-14 01:14:05 PM  

Shazam999: Maybe you could tell me how packets are routed on the internet.


By birds. Ah, we've come full circle here.
 
2012-06-14 01:17:30 PM  

Captain Wingo: JesseL:

How well does society do when the handful of people with the specialized knowledge we all depend on all die in a plane crash?

How do we make the advances that require the correlation and cooperation of completely disparate fields?

Overspecialization is unnecessary and it's a losing strategy for survival.

While you're right that "overspecialization is unnecessary", you're just saying a tautology. By definition, overspecialization is "specializing more than necessary". However, your underlying point, that specialization is bad for the success of humanity, is far from obvious. Given the vast number of people on Earth (or even in an average city), I'd say humans can afford to specialize very, very deeply.

We have 7 billion people on the planet, each with varied pieces of knowledge. As an example of how insanely many people that is, if 9 out of 10 people on Earth were randomly snatched away by aliens, humanity would lose a statistically insignificant amount of knowledge.


...and yet a significant portion don't know where bacon, eggs and butter come from. Maybe we're doing it wrong.
 
2012-06-14 01:17:39 PM  
Absolutely contrary to Fark Principles, I'm going to post something that might be useful and contains no snark nor lame attempts at humor.

I recently downloaded a smartphone app that does a semi-good job of cutting through the BS and tells you straight up what's in your food, and whether or not it's good for you, and offers healthier alternatives if available.

It's called Fooducate, and you can find it here, or at your favorite app store.
 
2012-06-14 01:19:04 PM  

leonel: Admittedly I had no idea salad dressing comes from rapeseed oil. Then again, I don't usually associate myself with THOSE sorts of foods.


Well, you don't need to use rapeseed oil in your salad dressing. Extra virgin olive oil is a proper base for those with more... sensitive palates.
 
2012-06-14 01:20:04 PM  
Who in the UK cares about butter? They have clotted cream there!
 
2012-06-14 01:22:00 PM  

Deucednuisance: danielscissorhands: Well, duh. Bread crumbs come from bread, sun flower seeds come from sunflowers, bird seed comes from birds, cat food comes from cats, tooth paste comes from teeth. I could go on, and on.

And Baby Food?


See baby oil joke, above.
 
2012-06-14 01:24:04 PM  

dittybopper: JackieRabbit: loonatic112358: Do they also know that hens come from eggs?

Yes, but they don't know which comes first.

The rooster.


Unless he's suffering from corn dick, that is...
 
2012-06-14 01:25:13 PM  
Apple?
 
2012-06-14 01:29:13 PM  
 
2012-06-14 01:30:55 PM  

Shazam999: Sticky Hands: Shazam999: You tell us where the line is. You just sound old.

How about, "know enough to not be easily taken advantage of"

You don't have to be able to build an engine, or program a compiler, but it would be good to know enough about the things you use every day that you don't get sold blinker fluid, click on links to make your computer run 100% faster, or buy the extended warranty.

That's too overspecialized for me. I just made my own TV. That's being self-sufficient.


I've been thinking about doing that myself. Seems like a fun project.
 
2012-06-14 01:31:10 PM  

brantgoose: MyNameIsMofuga: I thought British people got their eggs and milk from brown people in the colonies?

No, don't be silly. Meat and eggs come from Denmark in super-lorries driven by Arabs.


Close enough for this American public school educated Farker..
 
2012-06-14 01:33:03 PM  

brantgoose: I'll just leave this one hanging her: tapiocca.

Where does it come from?


Manioc, as I recall

[checks Wikipedia]

Yep. I was right.
 
2012-06-14 01:35:29 PM  
Chicken....farking eggs come out from their asses!
Link
 
2012-06-14 01:39:44 PM  
My bolshy droogies and I gooly to the Korova milk bar kolopo moloko from the ptitsa gooly.

nsfw?

And after that a bit of the old In-out-in-out with the first sharp we find.
 
2012-06-14 01:42:27 PM  
I remember reading a study like this that said 55% of American's don't know the sun is a star. I think they toss BS articles like this around every so often.
 
2012-06-14 01:44:31 PM  
Britain? These are the idiots who thought Churchill was an American Pres right? (Don't give me that shiat. He wasn't really an American and he certainly wasn't President.)
 
2012-06-14 01:59:37 PM  

stryed: Chicken....farking eggs come out from their asses!
Link


I always call them chicken periods. Cause that's kinda what they are.

My great-grandparents had a big family farm. They ran it until they were in their 90s and I was in 11th grade. Hog butchering and potato digging were my least favorite weekends.
 
2012-06-14 02:00:19 PM  

Canton: durbnpoisn: I am going to make it a point to quiz both of my kids (11 and 13) on this, after work. I just want to see how they do. I can already say with confidence they will get every single question right.

Here's a good question for all you Farkers (and no checking Wikipedia):
What is a coconut, a fruit or a seed?

The coconut is a seed -- the largest seed in the world, if I remember correctly -- but it grows within a fruit. (I will check Wikipedia after this just to see how correct I am about the fruit part.)

On a different note, wouldn't it be fun to test city kids about vegetables using heirloom produce?


*Ding*
Correct.

One other thing too... When they are immature, you can slice the entire thing and eat it like a melon.
So, yeah, it's both a seed and a fruit.
 
2012-06-14 02:08:26 PM  
You know, if I'd been given what sounds like a pretty stupid survey when I was seventeen, I would have found it hilarious to claim that cows lay eggs. I'm not sure if LEAF (the organization that put it together) is fully familiar with the "people, especially teenagers, can be dicks on surveys" issue.
 
2012-06-14 02:16:03 PM  
I just need one dirt block and one water block beside it and some seeds and I can grow some wheat
 
2012-06-14 02:17:40 PM  

gonegirl: You know, if I'd been given what sounds like a pretty stupid survey when I was seventeen, I would have found it hilarious to claim that cows lay eggs. I'm not sure if LEAF (the organization that put it together) is fully familiar with the "people, especially teenagers, can be dicks on surveys" issue.


Yeah, they are just pretending to be stupid. If you actually take the time to talk to them you'll see that they are geniuses. Evil, survey thwarting geniuses.
 
2012-06-14 02:21:44 PM  
Some 41% correctly linked butter to a dairy cow, with 8% linking it to beef cattle,

cdn2.maxim.com
APPROVES
 
2012-06-14 02:24:57 PM  

nread2010: I remember reading a study like this that said 55% of American's don't know the sun is a star. I think they toss BS articles like this around every so often.


They are for the benefit of those who live in New Mexico instead of the United States.
 
2012-06-14 02:30:47 PM  

Oldiron_79: Millennium: One common argument in vegetarian circles is that people have become too disconnected from their food: they no longer draw the relationship between what exactly they eat and where it comes from. I disagree with the conclusions they draw from this observation, but I do think there's something to the observation itself.

I'm sure if people had to slaughter and butcher their own animals there would be more vegetarians, and I'm about as big of a meat fan as there is.

Yes, I have killed and butchered animals before.


If people had to slaughter and butcher their own animals, there'd be a lot more animal cruelty.
 
2012-06-14 02:34:27 PM  
Yeah, this poll is fake. Too many people look at it and say, "Seriously with this shiat?" and just connect whatever to whichever in order to get their coupon for a free pizza or 10 GBP or whatnot.
 
2012-06-14 02:38:00 PM  

Oldiron_79: I'm sure if people had to slaughter and butcher their own animals there would be more vegetarians, and I'm about as big of a meat fan as there is.


You are sure of this? Your contention is that the further back in history we look we are going to find smaller percentages of hunters and greater percentages of gatherers? That the earlier in history we look before specialization brought us the role of butcher, we are not in fact going to find people killing and fishing whatever it takes to feed a family because they are squeamish about the act? Is that really what you are sure about? If the answer is yes, I would love to hear how you came to get this certainty of fact.
 
2012-06-14 03:01:14 PM  

Millennium: One common argument in vegetarian circles is that people have become too disconnected from their food: they no longer draw the relationship between what exactly they eat and where it comes from. I disagree with the conclusions they draw from this observation, but I do think there's something to the observation itself.


It's funny: I often a massive correlation between vegetarianism and urbanization. I grew up in a fairly rural area, so from a very young age I was fully aware that cow=milk, steak, hamburger; chicken=egg, drumstick; pig=pork etc., but most of my friends who're vegetarians grew up in a larger city and never really considered it until they saw something like Babe and it ABSOLUTELY freaked them out.

/aware correlation /= causation
//just an observation
///tion
 
2012-06-14 03:01:33 PM  

Gwendolyn: stryed: Chicken....farking eggs come out from their asses!
Link

I always call them chicken periods. Cause that's kinda what they are.


Ugh! Imagine having a period every 25 hours.
 
2012-06-14 03:02:02 PM  
And of course there should be a "FIND" in there between "often" and "a"...
 
2012-06-14 03:11:20 PM  
TFA wasn't clear... Were they linking pictures of food items to pictures of food sources? If so, then this makes more sense. A picture of a field of wheat might be interpreted as a farm. All manner of food items come from a farm, so I can see someone linking the eggs to the wheat as representative of a farm. This makes more sense that them thinking wheat plants lay eggs.

Also, shown a picture of a cow, few people are going to differentiate between a beef cow and a dairy cow. Not that they don't know that male cows do not produce milk, but they may not think that that level of detail is important. They may think that the cow pic is meant to represent all cows. And they may think that a picture of a rooster is meant to represent chickens. Also also, former dairy cows who no longer produce up to snuff end up in the food supply, so you can't just look for the one with the saggy teats.

I think this survey probably sucked.
 
2012-06-14 03:17:39 PM  
"while 67% were able to link eggs to an image of a hen but 11% thought they came from wheat or maize."
and I lol'd
 
2012-06-14 03:27:34 PM  
Gwendolyn:
stryed: Chicken....farking eggs come out from their asses!

I always call them chicken periods. Cause that's kinda what they are.


More like chicken ovulations. 'Cause that's exactly what they are.
 
2012-06-14 03:43:11 PM  

Shazam999: JesseL: Rapmaster2000: JesseL:

Specialization is how we maintain it. The people who developed it tended to be the sort of polymaths who could see beyond the end of their noses.

Specialization is fine. Over-specialization is foolish. There's no reason not to gain as much knowledge as the length of your life allows.

You can do both. I think your problem is that you've invented these cityfied stereotypes who you've labeled with the term "overspecialized" to prove that you're more wizend and "real" than them.

I think Hank Williams Jr. did that in "Country Boy Can Survive".

Take a look back at TheOriginalEd's post (to which I was initially responding) and tell me that there aren't people who aren't wallowing in ignorance and even defending the practice.

Dude, modern society is so complex, you don't even know what you're ignorant about.

Maybe you could tell me how packets are routed on the internet.


It's like a series of tubes...
 
2012-06-14 03:48:51 PM  

brantgoose: Which teat of the cow gives the soft ice cream?


The cold one, duh.
 
2012-06-14 04:31:52 PM  
thehairpin.com

Know what this stuff is?

That's right...it's elf cum. Santa's helper's bottle it, sell it to you folks, then use a portion of the profits to buy the toys he delivers to kids as part of their "non-profit" scam...
 
2012-06-14 06:18:52 PM  
People don't know beef comes from cows? Come on, people!! it's right there in the wiki!!

img534.imageshack.us
 
2012-06-14 06:49:38 PM  

weapon13: FTA "67% were able to link eggs to an image of a hen but 11% thought they came from wheat or maize"

WTF?!

Even my five year old knows where his food comes from (but that's only because we spent two years on a farm)


More likely 11% didn't give fark-all about the quiz.
 
2012-06-14 06:52:12 PM  
But what percentage of Limey brats know which way an egg laid from a rooster would roll down the roof of a cow house?
 
2012-06-14 07:00:07 PM  
Raug the Dwarf
2012-06-14 11:28:19 AM

I've always made sure my kids know where their food is coming from. We live in the 'food belt' so it's not really hard. Drive by a feedlot and see the cows or pigs running around. "There goes lunch, boys."

We were at a buffet restaurant the other day and the boys were munching on clams, shrimp and calamari.

My oldest looks over, "Daddy. Do they kill the clams before we eat them?

"Yep, they sure do. Then they fry them, then we eat them."

My youngest says, "Dad. Do they kill the shrimps too?"

"Yep. They cut off the heads and cook them. Then we eat them."

The oldest looks down at my porkchop. "What about the pigs, Dad. They kill them too so we can eat them?"

"Yup. They kill the pigs and cut off different parts. Ham is from the pig's butt. Bacon is from the belly. BBQ ribs are pig ribs. Loins come from the soft part around the leg."

"Oooh," he says, stuffing another clam in his face. A few seconds later...."Daddy. We should get a pig."



That's my boy!



Thanks for the belly laugh. Awesome kid with a great dad ; )
 
2012-06-14 07:23:16 PM  

ace in your face: I think it is a little tricky to show them beef and dairy cows as options for milk. Counting beef cattle wrong is stupid because 1. They do make milk and 2. Expecting city folk to know cattle types is effing stupid.


I kinda agree, because I'm not 100% sure I'd know the difference, but: Some 41% correctly linked butter to a dairy cow, with 8% linking it to beef cattle

That's still 52% full retard, I mean.... really people? Unless it was a vague picture of a yellow block and some people thought... I don't know.
 
2012-06-14 10:35:41 PM  
The egg came first.
The bird thing that produced the egg was very close to being a chicken but not quite. The DNA within the egg is not exactly the same as the bird thing, it's mutated but still viable.
What the egg DNA codes for is "chicken".
When the egg hatches chicken is born.

Crystal clear!

/hen fruit are delicious
 
2012-06-15 03:33:25 AM  
Yeah... right subby. Next thing you'll be telling us us peas don't come from a bag.
farm3.staticflickr.com
 
Displayed 195 of 195 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
Advertisement
On Twitter





In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report