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(TampaBay.com (St. Petersburg Tim)   Attempting to fight the scourge of homeless people, city officials weld shut the doors to public bathrooms, disconnect power to public outlets. But much like the Velociraptor, the homeless always find a way   (tampabay.com) divider line 57
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2012-06-13 07:51:47 PM
11 votes:
"If we just keep dehumanizing them, they will go away!" This sounds like a friggin' South Park episode.
2012-06-13 09:42:53 PM
10 votes:
A lot of the success of shopping malls has to do with the availability of clean, accessible restrooms. Malls with dirty restrooms or insufficient restrooms drive away paying customers and tilt the balance towards poor and criminal elements.

The same holds for cities. Cities with numerous, clean public restrooms are pleasant to live in. People want to be there and they spend their money there. Cities with few public restrooms are more dangerous and have more poor people, on average, than cities with many public restrooms.

Another benefit of public restrooms is that the poor actually have a place to clean themselves; a huge boon to the nouveaux poor who more than likely need a place to clean up before hitting the streets to look for employment.

This is a terrible decision. The opposite should be done. More restrooms and more full-time employees to keep the facilities maintained. Heck, hire some of the poor to maintain the things.
2012-06-13 10:36:07 PM
5 votes:
A homeless guy lives hoping he won't be noticed.

A bum lives by getting up in your face in the street asking for money.

/I've been homeless. Never been a bum.
2012-06-13 09:41:44 PM
5 votes:
Oh. Well, that's good. We all know that people intentionally become homeless for the free toilets and so they don't have to pay to charge their cell phones. Now they'll get jobs and homes and be productive members of society!
2012-06-13 10:13:19 PM
4 votes:
If you start saying stuff like"the homeless deserve help" someone will nail your ass to a tree.

41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44 "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45 "He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.
2012-06-13 09:57:52 PM
4 votes:
I was homeless and will most likely be homeless again so I'm getting a kick. Guess what?, When you take away the ability to earn a living, for the majority of people, then close all the doors on Sundays because there's no business because there's no job's and there's no consumers so every things closed on Sundays including the shelter? Well don't complain when someone craps on your lawn.
2012-06-13 08:07:06 PM
4 votes:
How Yuppie Christian of them. "Oh, my word! The poors sprayed feces on the urinal again! Guess nobody gets to go pee pee! Bocephus, weld those doors shut and leave a few gatorade bottle lying around."

Look, I understand the problem. It's probably been exacerbated by the high unemployment rate and people want to be someplace warm when they need to sleep in the gutter or the bushes.

Just bus them over to the Scientology part of town. They sure do seem to like steaming piles of feces.
2012-06-14 04:57:53 AM
3 votes:
This article angers me beyond my own belief.

Shutting off bathrooms, water and a hose for drinking/bathing water, and outlets for cell phones then expecting these poor people to get a job??

Are you farking kidding me??

Unbathed, shiatting in a park and having nothing other than an uncharged cell phone are no way to get a job. This is like saving freaking city pennies that people who are down to "I just need pennies to maybe survive" need.

fark this farking city.

Wow America is beat. Just beat.
2012-06-13 10:44:47 PM
3 votes:

Atomic Spunk: Homeless people suck. But you usually have to give them a few bucks or some crack to get them motivated first. Take it from me - you haven't really lived until you've had a blowjob from a woman with no teeth.


Do you really, as a man, feel no disgrace in saying things about people, on the Internet, that you would never have the balls to say to their faces? Because I am pretty sure that youer soft, white, middle-class, sheltered ass would NEVER have the guts to walk up to a homelss person and say that. I'm not saying you're wrong - I'm just saying you are a punk, and less than a man.
2012-06-13 09:53:20 PM
3 votes:
Funny how solutions to fighting the homeless problem never include putting an end to homelessness
2012-06-14 08:56:01 AM
2 votes:

krafty420: Funny how solutions to fighting the homeless problem never include putting an end to homelessness


I think your statement is the main cause of the problems.

There is no "end" to the problem. It will always be with us for as long as people reproduce there will always be a new batch of poor, sick, destitute, and homeless. We need to grow up as a society and just budget for it. It is one of those things that you say, "Ok, we are going to do this until a better treatment becomes available." It is just like budgeting for roads, police, or firefighters. Although certain members of our population are fighting against these groups as well.

Everyone also needs to realize that a large percentage of the homeless are veterans. I did not realize just how large, which is ironic since I have been homeless multiple times during my life and I am a veteran. There are some great programs at VA hospitals (that I just found out about) that I wish were available to all citizens. The Domiciliaries are amazing places that provide housing, food, life skills training, mental and physical healthcare, and more. I have experienced socialized healthcare and I think it is great! More people need to be aware of what is out there and not to be so ashamed as to ask for help.
2012-06-14 01:59:06 AM
2 votes:
In Station Square Park, the downtown courtyard next to the $50 million Station Square condo tower, officials asked for removal of a hose that the homeless were using for water.

In an email last month, City Manager Bill Horne called cutting electricity in public spaces a priority. Station Square Park, he wrote, was "a real attraction for our street homeless."

Slashing urban amenities is the city's latest step in making it tougher to live on the street. The city's homelessness consultant, Robert Marbut, said street survival guides and "renegade" food giveaways only served to discourage the homeless from seeking real help.


It's like these officials are trying to make the lives of homeless people even more of a living Hell than it already is. WTF??

The fact that these two buttholes are allowed to not only have jobs but jobs with power is proof to me that Satan DID kill God.
2012-06-13 11:53:40 PM
2 votes:
i249.photobucket.com
2012-06-13 10:56:26 PM
2 votes:

zzrhardy: My kiddy bible studies seem to remember a tithing system the Jews had in the Old Testament - ie, a set portion of each field of crop had to be set aside an-harvested, for the poor people to come and harvest themselves. Ie, organised welfare was stipulated in the Bible.


Yeah, but that's the Old Testament. The New Testament also preaches kindness, generosity, and love to those in need. But, that whole Bible thing is old school.

The new hotness is the "prosperity gospel," which indicates that God shows his love by giving you riches. If you're poor, well, you deserve to be poor, obviously, because God decided that you didn't deserve to be rich. That's the push of pretty much every friggin' "megachurch" you see these days.

The homeless aren't just destitute - they're also undeserving of God's love, obviously, and so should be castigated by all God-fearing rich people.
2012-06-13 10:40:10 PM
2 votes:
You know you're poor when you save a single kleenex to wipe yourself with after you poop a large Hershey's kiss of a poop in the middle of a dirt road on the railroad tracks. 5th largest city in the country too.

I am blessed but I cannot believe how many of us are a few weeks from hell. Illness, loss of employment, crime, act of Nature...jeebus, hug your loved ones tonight.
2012-06-13 10:38:25 PM
2 votes:
If only Jesus had given a sermon on such matters.
2012-06-13 10:02:12 PM
2 votes:
When I was a kid, the closest thing to a park in Columbia, SC was the capitol building itself. My mom liked spending time there, although there was no public restrooms available. Your only choice was to find a restaurant and there were fastfood locations to choose from, as oppose to pass through a fine dining eatery. Bojangle's was the first choice for many as well as a busy place for eating. The manager didn't like people stopping by for a bathroom break so he put combination locks on the restroom doors. It lasted for awhile before the city forced him to remove the locks. I understand restrooms cost money, however if cities put any thought into keeping folks visiting they need to cover potty needs for folks.

Even Animaniacs covered this when they did the 'pocket fisherman' gag. Little fisherman fits in your pocket and comes with his own porta potty because he has to eat.
2012-06-14 02:36:42 PM
1 votes:
fusillade762:


And this thread has been great for tagging a couple previously undiscovered Fark Assholes.


Don't look at me, I never pretended to be anything but.
2012-06-14 12:41:51 PM
1 votes:
sweet jeez:

The homeless have cellphones ??

See, for the past dozen years or so there have been cheap cell phones you can buy. In discount stores, drug stores, etc. For like $10-20. TracFone (link) and Net10 (link) so on. That you don't need a contract or an address to buy. That you can buy airtime cards for, like 30 minutes for $10, etc.

Don't you know anything??? Which turnip truck did you just fall out of?
2012-06-14 12:24:13 PM
1 votes:

ModernLuddite: This is the place where they were arresting high school kids for having the audacity to give food away for free to the homeless.

(Food Not Bombs, incidentally, was giving away so much food because they shut down every single bloody soup kitchen.)

I love Florida.


...motherfarking hell. Just when I think I've seen the lowest humankind can sink.

/Is it REALLY too much for them to just provide a nursing home for the mentally ill? Because that's the typical homeless person.
2012-06-14 12:11:12 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: sweet jeez: The homeless have cellphones ??

Would you prefer the homeless find jobs so they can not be homeless anymore?

/goddamn cellphone was a top priority if I was going to find a frikkin job
//rule 1: you CANNOT appear to be homeless or you will NOT get a job


I lived out of a van for 6 months while holding down my job so I am getting a kick out of these replies.

And, yes, Rule #1 is Rule #1. Rule #2 is communication and transportation (or location), and I would say that Rule #3 is keeping sane.

Seems crazy to me that things like drinking water, charging cellphones, and sleeping are listed right long with things like drug use and prostitution in the article, with no distinction.

"Drug use, sleeping and prostitution", Oh my!
2012-06-14 10:44:43 AM
1 votes:

Confabulat: fusillade762: Confabulat: sweet jeez: The homeless have cellphones ??

When I read comments like this I wonder exactly how out-of-touch with modern reality some Americans really are.

I hear there are poor people who even have stuff like refrigerators and televisions.

And this thread has been great for tagging a couple previously undiscovered Fark Assholes.

To be fair, I bet not many homeless people own a refrigerator.


Our church was out a 6am today exchanging freezer packs for the homeless folks' coolers.
2012-06-14 10:37:32 AM
1 votes:

Confabulat: sweet jeez: The homeless have cellphones ??

You can buy a cell phone for dirt at most convenience stores you know.


They get free cell phones from the government. Problem is, the program is for poor folks, not homeless. You have to have a residential address to get the free phone. Agency I know with pretends they are a rooming house and gives fictitious apartment numbers.
2012-06-14 05:01:39 AM
1 votes:

Confabulat: fusillade762: Confabulat: sweet jeez: The homeless have cellphones ??

When I read comments like this I wonder exactly how out-of-touch with modern reality some Americans really are.

I hear there are poor people who even have stuff like refrigerators and televisions.

And this thread has been great for tagging a couple previously undiscovered Fark Assholes.

To be fair, I bet not many homeless people own a refrigerator.


I have an apartment that includes one and in 20 or 30 days if I don't pay the rent I won't have one anymore and I am an experienced waiter who can't find a freaking waiting tables job and I am terrified.

I am less than 45 days from no job, no apartment, no fridge ferchrissakes and i am searching hard EVERY DAY.

If you have a job and some savings I promise you: RELISH THAT.
2012-06-14 03:36:19 AM
1 votes:

Confabulat: sweet jeez: The homeless have cellphones ??

When I read comments like this I wonder exactly how out-of-touch with modern reality some Americans really are.


I hear there are poor people who even have stuff like refrigerators and televisions.

And this thread has been great for tagging a couple previously undiscovered Fark Assholes.
2012-06-14 03:08:50 AM
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: zzrhardy: ghare: If you start saying stuff like"the homeless deserve help" someone will nail your ass to a tree.

41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44 "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45 "He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

My kiddy bible studies seem to remember a tithing system the Jews had in the Old Testament - ie, a set portion of each field of crop had to be set aside an-harvested, for the poor people to come and harvest themselves. Ie, organised welfare was stipulated in the Bible.

Ruth/gleaning


I had a neighbor who had a hillside of raspberry bushes, blue berry bushes, and a grape arbor. He always came by when whatever kind was ripe and told us to take what we needed but to remember to leave certain plants alone in case the homeless or the hungry came by and needed to eat.
2012-06-14 02:26:15 AM
1 votes:
Let's just skip to the "scooping them up in trucks and turning them into Soylent Green" step, farking hell.

/America: where public places are welded shut because of the homeless
2012-06-14 01:27:18 AM
1 votes:

sweet jeez: The homeless have cellphones ??


When I read comments like this I wonder exactly how out-of-touch with modern reality some Americans really are.
2012-06-14 01:21:46 AM
1 votes:

sweet jeez: The homeless have cellphones ??


You can get a prepaid cell phone for a little as $8. If you're homeless and trying to find a job so you can eventually leave the ranks of the homeless, you need a way for a potential employer to contact you.
2012-06-14 01:14:18 AM
1 votes:

sweet jeez: The homeless have cellphones ??


Would you prefer the homeless find jobs so they can not be homeless anymore?

/goddamn cellphone was a top priority if I was going to find a frikkin job
//rule 1: you CANNOT appear to be homeless or you will NOT get a job
2012-06-14 12:53:59 AM
1 votes:

krafty420: Funny how solutions to fighting the homeless problem never include putting an end to homelessness


There's no profit in it to motivate the private sector to do anything and everyone's too uptight about socialism for the public sector to do anything.
2012-06-14 12:51:18 AM
1 votes:

URAPNIS: Find a job for them. Plenty of field work available now that the Messicans are gone.


A lot of the homeless are suffering severe mental health problems with co-morbid drug and alcohol problems. They would not be much use to an employer until these issues are resolved.
2012-06-14 12:48:17 AM
1 votes:

ambercat: krafty420: Funny how solutions to fighting the homeless problem never include putting an end to homelessness

Yes it's kind of amazing that the solution to homelessness never involves treating the mentally ill, who make up the largest portion of the homeless. Because obviously if the mentally ill can't figure out what's wrong with themselves and then afford treatment before they get too far gone they deserve to be crapping outdoors and trying to self-medicate with crack.


I believe Ronald Reagan put an end to your hippy thinking.
2012-06-14 12:36:11 AM
1 votes:
Earlier this year, Horne and Marbut called for discouraging donations to the St. Vincent de Paul soup kitchen. That idea was shelved after public backlash.

I can't believe people this bad can get elected.
2012-06-14 12:26:53 AM
1 votes:

krafty420: Funny how solutions to fighting the homeless problem never include putting an end to homelessness


Yes it's kind of amazing that the solution to homelessness never involves treating the mentally ill, who make up the largest portion of the homeless. Because obviously if the mentally ill can't figure out what's wrong with themselves and then afford treatment before they get too far gone they deserve to be crapping outdoors and trying to self-medicate with crack.
2012-06-14 12:13:25 AM
1 votes:

krafty420: Funny how solutions to fighting the homeless problem never include putting an end to homelessness


Fark needs a "Sad" button next to Funny and Smart.
2012-06-13 11:45:23 PM
1 votes:

krafty420: Funny how solutions to fighting the homeless problem never include putting an end to homelessness



I lol'd.
No, it's easier to piss off the non-homeless by cutting normal services out like public restrooms. Then, running the homeless away becomes everyone's priority. Charging phones, like people charge their laptops? How dare those homeless need a cell phone.They don't need to call for work, we have services to find them jobs. They need to leave. Next thing you know, they're be looking for jobs on laptops.
2012-06-13 11:20:35 PM
1 votes:
This is a clear example of scapegoating one group of unpopular people so that you can take away amenities from the greater population. Completely dishonest, lazy, and harmful.
2012-06-13 11:16:12 PM
1 votes:
FormlessOne:

"If we just keep dehumanizing them, they will go away!" This sounds like a friggin' South Park episode.

Is $cientology behind this? Clearwater is supposed to be "nice" place for them.

But hey, the very poor should leave now. Just for self-preservation. Those cracker cops can get ugly when they think you're being uppity and back-sassing, even the Xenoids among them.
2012-06-13 11:15:36 PM
1 votes:

Confabulat: Can't you buy a padlock at Home Depot for like three bucks?


Yeah, but when the homeless leave and they want to reopen the bathrooms they can blow the doors off with dynamite. Trust me, this way is much cooler.

This is the kind of sharp thinking you get in a city run by Scientologists.
2012-06-13 11:12:25 PM
1 votes:

RembrandtQEinstein: Anything that harms bums is a good thing.

Solution to the bum problem

1. require a license to conduct an outdoor business within 50 feet of an intersection or highway ramp
2. have cops arrest all the begging bums because none of them will have the license
3. make sure the cops take the bum to a police annex at the edge of town in some godforssaken industrial wasteland, at least a couple of miles from the nearest busstop or public phone


billsmovieemporium.files.wordpress.com

This has the potential to be epic.
2012-06-13 11:12:05 PM
1 votes:

Confabulat: I got written up at work today and about had a panic attack. I'm always two weeks away from disaster. It's weird that as our nation's economy deteriorates, we've grown more hostile to our poor. You'd think the opposite would be true.


But the poor are merely the vanguard of the Socialist Army. They lead the charge, with the unions, teachers, firefighters, and police officers marching right behind

/we have been told who the enemy is, and brainwashed into believing they're not us
2012-06-13 11:03:15 PM
1 votes:
I got written up at work today and about had a panic attack. I'm always two weeks away from disaster. It's weird that as our nation's economy deteriorates, we've grown more hostile to our poor. You'd think the opposite would be true.
2012-06-13 10:48:59 PM
1 votes:

ghare: If you start saying stuff like"the homeless deserve help" someone will nail your ass to a tree.

41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44 "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45 "He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.


My kiddy bible studies seem to remember a tithing system the Jews had in the Old Testament - ie, a set portion of each field of crop had to be set aside an-harvested, for the poor people to come and harvest themselves. Ie, organised welfare was stipulated in the Bible.
2012-06-13 10:22:27 PM
1 votes:
This is the place where they were arresting high school kids for having the audacity to give food away for free to the homeless.

(Food Not Bombs, incidentally, was giving away so much food because they shut down every single bloody soup kitchen.)

I love Florida.
2012-06-13 10:22:15 PM
1 votes:

krafty420: Funny how solutions to fighting the homeless problem never include putting an end to homelessness


thats SOCALISMS! or maybe being a good christian....nah, it's SOCALISMS!
2012-06-13 10:16:49 PM
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: A lot of the success of shopping malls has to do with the availability of clean, accessible restrooms. Malls with dirty restrooms or insufficient restrooms drive away paying customers and tilt the balance towards poor and criminal elements.

The same holds for cities. Cities with numerous, clean public restrooms are pleasant to live in. People want to be there and they spend their money there. Cities with few public restrooms are more dangerous and have more poor people, on average, than cities with many public restrooms.

Another benefit of public restrooms is that the poor actually have a place to clean themselves; a huge boon to the nouveaux poor who more than likely need a place to clean up before hitting the streets to look for employment.

This is a terrible decision. The opposite should be done. More restrooms and more full-time employees to keep the facilities maintained. Heck, hire some of the poor to maintain the things.


What part of Clearwater did you not understand?
2012-06-13 09:59:00 PM
1 votes:

krafty420: Funny how solutions to fighting the homeless problem never include putting an end to homelessness


Sure they do, shuh. You just make it illegal.
2012-06-13 09:58:42 PM
1 votes:
Homeless people suck. But you usually have to give them a few bucks or some crack to get them motivated first. Take it from me - you haven't really lived until you've had a blowjob from a woman with no teeth.
2012-06-13 09:54:30 PM
1 votes:
Hitler wouldn't have put up with this. He'd have found a solution.
2012-06-13 09:47:22 PM
1 votes:
Wouldn't it be cheaper to ship them to Cuba, or perhaps sell them for medical research?
2012-06-13 09:38:25 PM
1 votes:
Pinellas county keeps trying to export its homeless problem. They're even giving out bus tickets.

Link
2012-06-13 09:23:09 PM
1 votes:

This About That: NewportBarGuy: How Yuppie Christian

Not necessarily. It's Clearwater.


NBG had my first thought. Good catch.
2012-06-13 09:19:59 PM
1 votes:
www.pee-nutwear.com
2012-06-13 09:13:27 PM
1 votes:

This About That: NewportBarGuy: How Yuppie Christian

Not necessarily. It's Clearwater.


This
2012-06-13 08:58:36 PM
1 votes:

NewportBarGuy: How Yuppie Christian


Not necessarily. It's Clearwater.
2012-06-13 08:39:37 PM
1 votes:
WHY WON'T THEY JUST DIE?

scottydoesntknow: FormlessOne: "If we just keep dehumanizing them, they will go away!" This sounds like a friggin' South Park episode.

I hear Califooooornia is good to the homeless (good to the homeless).


Not particularly

/they will give you food and medical coverage so you can enjoy the whole outdoor living experience more, though
 
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