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(NBC Bay Area)   San Francisco has a plan to stop panhandling: Hand out puppies   (nbcbayarea.com) divider line 89
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2012-06-13 11:12:23 PM  
Oh ya, this sounds like a good idea.
 
2012-06-13 11:13:10 PM  
In San Francisco, rich liberals care more about cute animals than they do about poor, recently homeless, recovering drug addicts.

So this is a way to divert resources away from the bloated animal shelter budget and toward an area where the funds are desperately needed: Caring for *actual human beings*, albeit the least sympathetic human beings on earth aside from prisoners.

Works for me.
 
2012-06-13 11:15:51 PM  
How about rounding them up in trucks and shipping them to farms?
Then telling them to get off the trucks and do farm work?
Then loading up the trucks with mexicans and sending them home?
 
2012-06-13 11:19:47 PM  
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings:

my guess is they'll get the dogs that were first in line for Euthanasia Row...

Nothing wrong with that. Especially with the gummint paying.
 
2012-06-13 11:19:55 PM  
Has the whole world gone mad? Or just California?
 
2012-06-13 11:21:12 PM  

Generation_D: Interesting filter, swapping 'their' for 'they're' ... meh.


Um... yeah... the filter didn't do that.

I'll apologize if I'm wrong.

they're = they are

their = a possessive... belongs to them

/screen capturing... if we get a funny mod
//do you have a spell corrector?
 
2012-06-13 11:21:18 PM  
Macular Degenerate:

The ignorance of what it means to be homeless is so rampant in this thread, it makes me want to go punch something.

As a formerly homeless person, thank you,.
 
2012-06-13 11:23:47 PM  
mc_madness:

Sniffing a bum's shiatfilled butthole is a dog's wet dream.

My Pomeranian thinks so. He likes making homeless guys happy with his silly friendliness. (And old ladies and little girls too.)
 
2012-06-13 11:25:55 PM  
On the other hand, banning those little plastic grocery bags? That was a great idea. Your city is insane if they don't copy it.
 
2012-06-13 11:27:06 PM  
This is so farking stupid.

I want a free dog with unlimited veterinary assistance too.

I wouldn't say that the homeless problem in San Francisco is why i left but it certainly was not on my list of reasons to stay.

I live in Brooklyn now and, at least where I live, I don't EVER get asked for anything.
 
2012-06-13 11:31:19 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: and with the dogs, a $50 to $75 weekly stipend to cover dog food and other canine necessities, the newspaper reported.

if i was homeless Id get a big bag of Field Trial that costs like $20 and lasts for a while and use the rest for people food, etc.


I would feed my dog the good stuff, make sure he had Frontline so fleas didn't bug him and keep enough in savings to cover vet care. And walk him wherever he wanted to go (within reason), and be very glad to have him.

They couldn't pay me enough to keep a Baptist though. Even a cute one who have good head.
 
2012-06-13 11:34:20 PM  
So...They'll just leave the dogs locked in their apartments to slowly go insane when they go out to panhandle then? I'm the libbiest lib who ever libbed but I don't think they've thought this thro.
 
2012-06-13 11:37:08 PM  

gregscott: I should mention this, since Fark is all about criticizing bad news copy:
The author made a bad use the of the word "tact". Tact is discretion and diplomacy, knowing how to speak in gentle terms. It should be the "The city is taking this tack because..." A tack is a sailing term, meaning a path, perhaps one of many possible paths, not necessarily directly toward a destination, but along a path that will get you toward your goal eventually. This metaphor is often generalized to any goal oriented situation.

The author obviously doesn't understand this word. He's no wordsmith. And the editor's asleep at the wheel.


spell check didn't catch it, the copy editor got fired to pay for the document software and the page of feature editor was editing his/her resume to AP style sheet so they could submit it to huffington post.
 
2012-06-13 11:38:27 PM  
This is a better article.

Apparently the $50-$75 a week is *not* for dog food. Dog food is just provided, along with vet care, and someone to check up and make sure the dog is being taken care of. The $50-$75 a week is just a way to say thank you for not panhandling.
 
2012-06-13 11:49:39 PM  
skantea:

DNTR the whole thing, but I assume that they are talking about people with chronic depression who simply need the structure and benefit of taking care of a living thing.

Works for me. I've recently decided not to off myself because the dog would really miss me. He'd still be materially provided for very well, thanks to the ex who insists on keeping him, but for one thing he's got me trained to spoil him and there's simply nobody else to walk him all over town.

He'll sniff for a few minutes and then lead me around by his nose for miles. After living there since October I don't think it's possible for him to get lost within a two or three mile radius of home now -- a big chunk of Lexington KY anyway. In general, she tells me I'm puppy-whipped; I say she's just jealous that she couldn't do it.

So even if he got over the loss of his Davy he'd still be worse off as a dog. Other people love him too, but my particular function is irreplaceable. (You know, it's hard for a mutt to find good help these days.)
 
2012-06-13 11:49:52 PM  
I heard this on NPR on the way home and dont think they thought their cunning plan all the way through. If someone is homeless then dont they have better things to do than take care of a dog? It seems like it would just suck up energy and effort that would be better used trying to get a job or a cheap place to live. I realize they are providing the dog food and veterinary care but it is not like that is all it takes to keep a dog. They also mentioned some kind of rule that the homeless person has to agree not to beg. First, how in the heck would they enforce that one. Second, that is like asking a hooker not to suck dicks. Its just what they do. If they cant beg then how is the homeless person going to get money? I realize a job would be the ideal but lets be realistic here. Most of them have issues that mean they are very unlikely to get hired to do much of anything. More than a few of the dogs might also simply end up as a nice homeless dinner.
 
2012-06-13 11:52:02 PM  
vudukungfu:

How about rounding them up in trucks and shipping them to farms?
Then telling them to get off the trucks and do farm work?
Then loading up the trucks with mexicans and sending them home?


Welcome to my ignore list.
 
2012-06-13 11:53:59 PM  
superdude72:

On the other hand, banning those little plastic grocery bags? That was a great idea. Your city is insane if they don't copy it.

Those bags are great for picking up my dog's poop so people don't step in it.
 
2012-06-14 12:15:32 AM  
So when they start panhandling with their free dogs, you really think they're going to take away a poor homeless guy's dog?

Macular Degenerate: The ignorance of what it means to be homeless is so rampant in this thread, it makes me want to go punch something.


Hang out in the City, pee/poop where people walk, aggressively demand money from people who don't stink of pee.

/amirite?
 
2012-06-14 12:38:10 AM  

Gotfire: I really enjoy visiting San Francisco, but man you guys have a seriously bad homeless problem there. It's seriously over the top in your face panhandling every farking where. in the major tourist areas where the rubes are.


FTFY

The city does have a huge problem with the homeless and panhandling but it is really mainly isolated to a few areas. The biggest problems are in Union Square which has the two problems of being a high foot traffic tourist area and being right next to the homeless crackhead district so the panhandlers don't have far to migrate every day. The Haight has similar problems since it is also a high traffic foot traffic tourist area right next to areas where the panhandlers live. Large swaths of the city don't have such problems.
 
2012-06-14 12:45:50 AM  

Macular Degenerate: The ignorance of what it means to be homeless is so rampant in this thread, it makes me want to go punch something.


The article is actually talking about formerly homeless people who are living in city provided accommodation.

But I do agree with you. The homeless are the poorest of the poor and most people don't give a flying fark about them.
 
2012-06-14 12:49:17 AM  
I don't know how well this will work, considering some of them make more than $75 a week panhandling. Plus all those other requirements, like not mentally ill and not a hoarder.
 
2012-06-14 12:54:24 AM  
earsucker.com
/puppies?
 
2012-06-14 12:59:26 AM  
2012-06-14 12:47:37 AM

I work on the outermost blast zone of homelessness in San Francisco. I take BART to the Civic Center station and walk up the urine soaked steps to Market at 6:15 AM every day. I usually encounter a foot long turd or a yellow stream on my way up from the underground.

If the escalator is working (not since February) it is covered in pee and I get a contact high from the denizens gathered above. I am usually offered drugs or sex at the check cashing center and promised an ass kicking in front of the liquor store 25 yards south.

Some of the homeless currently have pets of some sort. Mostly dogs, some cats on a yarn leash. Some have rats. I swear I saw a raccoon once, but it may have been the contact high.

I can't wait until this program is in full force! I will no longer have to guess if the turd is human or "pet". I can blame the yellow stream on a careless pet "guardian."
Freedom at last. Freedom at last.
/FML
 
2012-06-14 01:22:48 AM  

krafty420: Homeless people don't hoard - where would put everything?


In their shopping cart, of course.

-Was kind of homeless for a while, although I had a car. I kept my junk in the trunk.
 
2012-06-14 02:22:02 AM  
I don't think they've thought this plan all the way through. I don't know about San Francisco, but in most places I've lived it's a lot harder to find landlords willing to let you have pets. Even if having a puppy magically turns someone's life around (which I doubt very much) and they get a job, than what? If they then don't qualify anymore for the housing they're in, where are they supposed to go? It seems like a misguided feel-good stunt that could lead to a number of potential catch-22 situations.
 
2012-06-14 02:42:28 AM  
Give a man a puppy and he'll eat for a day...
 
2012-06-14 03:09:51 AM  

Thrag: The city does have a huge problem with the homeless and panhandling but it is really mainly isolated to a few areas.


I'm from San Jose, so I'm not really much of a tourist and I must say that you are kind of whitewashing the situation. Other than the super rich bougie areas, there are bums basically every other block. I have no issue with homeless people, and I even help them out time to time, but SF is almost unbearable when it comes to the homeless.
 
2012-06-14 04:08:23 AM  

Thrag: The biggest problems are in Union Square which has the two problems of being a high foot traffic tourist area and being right next to the homeless crackhead district so the panhandlers don't have far to migrate every day. The Haight has similar problems since it is also a high traffic foot traffic tourist area right next to areas where the panhandlers live. Large swaths of the city don't have such problems.



Not just tourist areas.
They are everywhere. The Mission is not on the traditional tourist path, yet there are still plenty of homeless. Human shiat on the sidewalk is a very common sight.
Sigh. yay, life in San Francisco.
The only place I don't see homeless in the neighborhoods is out by the rich neighborhood around the Golden Gate Bridge.
 
Ral
2012-06-14 04:52:40 AM  

gregscott: I should mention this, since Fark is all about criticizing bad news copy:
The author made a bad use the of the word "tact". Tact is discretion and diplomacy, knowing how to speak in gentle terms. It should be the "The city is taking this tack because..." A tack is a sailing term, meaning a path, perhaps one of many possible paths, not necessarily directly toward a destination, but along a path that will get you toward your goal eventually. This metaphor is often generalized to any goal oriented situation.

The author obviously doesn't understand this word. He's no wordsmith. And the editor's asleep at the wheel.


That error is so common in so-called professional journalism that I don't even get exercised about it anymore.

That and the misuse of the word "grizzly" when they really mean "grisly".
 
2012-06-14 07:49:56 AM  

apoptotic: I don't think they've thought this plan all the way through. I don't know about San Francisco, but in most places I've lived it's a lot harder to find landlords willing to let you have pets. Even if having a puppy magically turns someone's life around (which I doubt very much) and they get a job, than what? If they then don't qualify anymore for the housing they're in, where are they supposed to go? It seems like a misguided feel-good stunt that could lead to a number of potential catch-22 situations.


hahahahahahahaha. as if the homeless (most of them) really want homes. Or homes with responsibilities anyway.
 
2012-06-14 08:05:32 AM  
And the buildings where they live will become filthy with dog piss and crap. You think panhandlers are responsible enough to take care of these dogs properly? FFS.
 
2012-06-14 09:32:33 AM  
No. Dog ownership is not a bribe, it is a massive responsibility. A majority of people will take the dog for the money and shelter and then treat them like crap, if they don't abandon it immediately or the quick payout.
 
2012-06-14 10:13:20 AM  
I have a much better solution. I know of an upscale dog hotel where you can actually pay extra to have a human sleep with your dog. Owner of dog foots the bill, the homeless person gets a free night in a warm bed, dog gets companionship. You can thank me later.
 
2012-06-14 10:36:17 AM  
I can say, after being to LA, Saint Louis, New York, Las Vegas, attending the University of Missouri- Columbia, and having lived in Kansas City my entire life, San Francisco has the worst homeless problem of them all by far. Those beautiful fountains in front of city hall in Dirty Harry? They had to be removed because of the fact that the homeless were bathing in them. The homeless also walk around in the premiere shopping districts. I'm not saying that to state that they're an eyesore, I'm saying it to impress upon you guys the fact that you can have people buying $20,000 jewelry and a $5,000 outfit in a store and have a guy with absolutely nothing outside.

Want to make the problem go away? Spend the thousands of dollars this dog program will inevitably cost to hire a psychologist to try and get some of those homeless on the right track. Really, there's no excuse for it, especially when SF tries to portray itself as this tolerant, compassionate city.
 
2012-06-14 11:11:49 AM  
You know, I have in the past thought to myself "Sure, San Francisco is a bunch of hippie socialists, but at least they don't abuse puppies."

After reading this article, I now refuse to belief San Francisco exists. It has to be a construct of my mind, some concept my unconscious devised to give my conscious a focal point for pent-up anger and frustration. I... just cannot believe anyone could be this stupid and reckless towards animal life, even hippie airheads.
 
2012-06-14 12:07:05 PM  

schubie: So...They'll just leave the dogs locked in their apartments to slowly go insane when they go out to panhandle then?


Of course not, those dogs will go out on the streets as a panhandling "prop". People are -much- more inclined to hand over money when they see a sweet-looking dog- which is why many homeless/panhandlers do keep a dog around.
 
2012-06-14 03:06:16 PM  
i4.ytimg.com

PUPPY!!!
 
2012-06-14 05:52:15 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Popo Bawa: Total fail.
Hobo and dog poop together all over the streets.
Great.
Who came up with this idea?
Clearly they view dogs as disposable or throwaway commodities to service their needs and nothing more.
Who's going to properly train these dogs?
The mentally ill or addicted homeless who can't be trusted to take care of themselves?
How does this city have the funds to pay for this program and especially pay for employees to follow up on people in the program?
How about money for spaying, regular yearly booster shots and monthly heartworm pills?
Costs me several hundred for the pills and the shots every year, so that would blow past their regular budget.
Whoever came up with idea seriously needs to be shown the door and given a swift kick in the ass on the way out.

At least half of those questions have been answered in TFA, if you'd bother taking the time to read it.



I did read the article and no - it didn't answer any of those questions.
The "formerly homeless person" (after they get money to not be homeless) can't be a hoarder, mentally ill or seeking drug treatment. Okay, this week - what about next week? Where are the employees to check up on the status of said formerly homeless person and dog?
No where. Not in the budget for the check up person - just money to toss at the 'formerly homeless person' to stay off the street. $50-%75 a week.....??? For 15 years? The life of the dog?
WTF??? Might as well ask taxpayers to wipe their asses with their money and flush it.
Again - no questions answered.
 
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