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2012-06-13 06:57:32 PM
Who gots da money? It go in little old ladies' pension accounts? What was the bet?

How come we aren't happy for the ones who ended up with the money? Unless....
 
2012-06-13 06:59:41 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Debeo Summa Credo: Philip Francis Queeg: Debeo Summa Credo: Philip Francis Queeg: Debeo Summa Credo: This woman gets worse and worse. I still hope the dems keep the senate, because the GOP is worse, be she's just so full of shiat.

/i know, she's a politician now.

What exactly did she say that's full of shiat in your opinion? Her criticism of Dimon?

"the JP Morgan scandal shows that the game is rigged"

"big banks broke the economy....families have lost nearly 40% of their net worth that could have been used to put a kid through college"

First off, the big banks disnt singlehandedly break the economy. Also, that 40% number is determined using the peak of the housing bubble as the starting point. If the gains were illusory, as we can see in hindsight, it really isn't a decrease in net worth.

the average shiathead voter might buy this crap, but as a former bank regulator Elizabeth Warren KNOWS otherwise, yet she spews the bullshiat anyway. That means she is lying.

I know all politicians have to spew bullshiat at some point to pick up the average idiots vote, and Brown might be worse, but she's still full of shiat.

You don't think that Dimon defrauding investors by lying about the magnitude of the loss for months until proxy voting was complete so that he was retained in his position with a huge compensation package is a scandal?

I don't think he defrauded investors nor did he lie. The positions themselves were very fluid and complex and I don't think he knew of the nature of the losses until later.

And it's laughable to suggest he held off on information to increase his pay for 2011. The downside for his future career of intentionally lying would far outstrip any decrease in his pay that possibly would have resulted if he had known about it and disclosed it earlier.

So the reporters who asked him about the huge losses that he dismissed as a "tempest in a teapot" had better information then he did?

Yeah, I'm sure Dimon is sweating bullets about his future career. It's not like a person could live the rest of their lives in luxury solely off the $23,000,000 he will make this year alone.

Once again you show that it is impossible for your to conceive of the notion that a wealthy person is anything other than noble and honest.


Dude, I dont know what to tell you. Your bias blinds you to facts and logic.

Of course dimon could live off $23 million. He could also have lived off his previous earnings in life even if his bonus this year was reduced to zero. But he wants to continue his career and make more in the future, that's why he wouldnt lie about a loss that would eventually see the light of day anyway. Lying to maximize his bonus this year, at the possible expense of his future career and remuneration, would be so stupid that only a moron would think that preserving his bonus for this year would be a motivation.
 
2012-06-13 06:59:53 PM

cameroncrazy1984: MeinRS6: cameroncrazy1984: MeinRS6: Liberals were calling Wisc "too close to call" on the air the day of the election.

Which ones, specifically?

How bad is your memory? This wasn't that long ago.

You don't recall anyone on the air saying that it was "too close to call"? I know you can't be bothered to go look on youtube or anything. You will demand that I do it for you or "I'm just making it up". And when I do post the link to the vid, you'll come up with some reason for why it doesn't count.

Apparently you don't, otherwise you woudl have named at least one liberal instead of writing a paragraph deflecting.


Who is that uber-douche on MSNBC? I know that leaves far too many possibilities. Ed shiatz or something. He was still saying that it was anyone's race after his own network called it for Walker. I think there is also some vid of Wolf Blitzer all excited earlier in his broadcast, and then later crestfallen when another lib went down in defeat.

I'm not revealing any state secrets here. All of these vids were posted on Fark the day after the election. There is another compilation of all of the "too close to call" statements while the polls were still open as well. I'm assuming that you are in some kind of massive state of denial on this topic. You do that a lot.
 
2012-06-13 07:06:43 PM
Really, can we trust anything this squaw has to say?

www.conservativedailynews.com
 
2012-06-13 07:10:58 PM

derpdeederp: what_now: Why are you cons so afraid of a strong liberal woman?

There is something about an angry scolding woman telling me how I should act that is a big turn off.

/Why yes, I am single.


Except she's not telling YOU how to act. She's telling BANKS and the financial industry how they should act. And unlike most people in congress, she actually knows what the hell she's talking about in that regard.
 
2012-06-13 07:12:52 PM

notmtwain: Her campaign was always going to hinge on the contrast between herself and Brown, whose vote for the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill was contingent upon weakening the Volcker Rule.


If she can't restate that argument more plainly, she will lose.


"Wall St. banks get their way with Congress," Warren said. "[N]ow the lobbying just moved out of the daylight to secret negotiations. ... The big banks that broke the economy have not been held accountable. Scott Brown held the financial reforms hostage until they were weakened and then he worked after the laws were passed to weaken them further. That's what people understand."

I can understand your confusion and ignorance, since it was all the way down six little paragraphs. Readings hard.
 
2012-06-13 07:16:07 PM

Ambivalence: derpdeederp: what_now: Why are you cons so afraid of a strong liberal woman?

There is something about an angry scolding woman telling me how I should act that is a big turn off.

/Why yes, I am single.

Except she's not telling YOU how to act. She's telling BANKS and the financial industry how they should act. And unlike most people in congress, she actually knows what the hell she's talking about in that regard.


How is a fake indian qualified to tell banks how to act?
 
2012-06-13 07:19:42 PM

Ambivalence: And unlike most people in congress, she actually knows what the hell she's talking about in that regard.


Kinda like how Obama knew how to fix the economy. Amirite?

Have you heard about the swampland in Florida that I have for sale? I'm also holding title to a lovely bridge in Brooklyn.
 
2012-06-13 07:20:14 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Of course dimon could live off $23 million. He could also have lived off his previous earnings in life even if his bonus this year was reduced to zero. But he wants to continue his career and make more in the future, that's why he wouldnt lie about a loss that would eventually see the light of day anyway. Lying to maximize his bonus this year, at the possible expense of his future career and remuneration, would be so stupid that only a moron would think that preserving his bonus for this year would be a motivation.


Y'ever wonder why shiatty managers keep getting hired? Denny Green, Grady Little, Art Howe - they wash out of one managerial job only to land in another the next year.

It's because once you have one of those jobs, others are likely to delude themselves into thinking you've "earned" it. Even if you suck at it, someone thought you were good enough, and even an established .498 manager (Howe) is better than an unknown quantity in their minds.

So Dimon MAY have:
-realized shiat was about to hit the fan,
-covered up news of the loss for as long as he could to make the vote and the cash,
-expect to be fired or let go or "not renewed" or whatever fancy words they use when he's gone next year,
-in the hopes that some other concern (some lesser-known CEO-ship that'll still get him in the 6-7 figure compensation range) will hire him because "he did so well (right up until he didn't)."

I'm not suggesting I know this happened, but in my mind, most businesspeople (especially such established ones) run in such a privileged circle that once they lose one job - unless it's under Straus-Kahnian levels of weird circumstances - they'll have another waiting. How many of Dimon's fellow JPM boardmembers, for example, would hire or recommend him for a spot on some other board on which they serve?
 
2012-06-13 07:20:38 PM

MeinRS6: Who is that uber-douche on MSNBC? I know that leaves far too many possibilities. Ed shiatz or something. He was still saying that it was anyone's race after his own network called it for Walker. I think there is also some vid of Wolf Blitzer all excited earlier in his broadcast, and then later crestfallen when another lib went down in defeat


Okay we're getting close to something here. When did MSNBC call it and when did Ed Shultz say it was too close to call? Look, if you're going to make a definite assertion the least you could've done is know your sh*t beforehand. This is Fark, after all, and we ask for citations. You ought to know that by now.
 
2012-06-13 07:22:23 PM

Noam Chimpsky: Ambivalence: derpdeederp: what_now: Why are you cons so afraid of a strong liberal woman?

There is something about an angry scolding woman telling me how I should act that is a big turn off.

/Why yes, I am single.

Except she's not telling YOU how to act. She's telling BANKS and the financial industry how they should act. And unlike most people in congress, she actually knows what the hell she's talking about in that regard.

How is a fake indian qualified to tell banks how to act?


That's all you guys really have is it?
 
2012-06-13 07:23:56 PM

MeinRS6: Kinda like how Obama knew how to fix the economy. Amirite?


Yeah, I'm real convinced that Romney would do a better job. I mean after all, Massachusetts was 47th in job creation when he was in office, he really knows how it's done!
 
2012-06-13 07:26:34 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
LEAVE ELIZABETH WARREN ALONE
 
2012-06-13 07:27:45 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Okay we're getting close to something here. When did MSNBC call it and when did Ed Shultz say it was too close to call?


At the same time the bubble-headed bleached blonde was informing him that NBC was calling the election for Walker. Did you not see that vid? It was hilarious. Well, maybe not from your perspective, but it was hilarious. Ed was in the same kind of denial that you are now engaged in.

Ed will be doing the same thing with Warren in Nov. You can write that down and remind yourself of it on election night. You heard it here first.
 
2012-06-13 07:28:10 PM

Cletus C.: The nastiness of that race is icky. Maybe Brown can get her to sign a treaty.


Smoke the peace pipe?
 
2012-06-13 07:30:29 PM

urban.derelict: [images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 316x316]
LEAVE ELIZABETH WARREN ALONE


Got nothing huh?
 
2012-06-13 07:35:29 PM

MeinRS6: Magorn: So she's decided that if the Wall-Street interests can bribe Congress to keep her from cleaning them up, she'll ask to voters of MA to Send her to congress so she can clean both up.

If you actually believe that, then I have some lovely swampland in Florida to show you. I'm letting it go at the bargain basement price of $375,000/acre. I think you will be interested.


I believe that because I've worked with, and against her professionally and I can tell you that she's extremely smart, a true believer , and honest s the day is long. She was also anti CDS-swaps waaay before it was cool
 
2012-06-13 07:56:31 PM

MeinRS6: chimp_ninja: MeinRS6: This lying coont is going down hard in Nov.

You've made any number of racist remarks here, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised at misogyny from you.

You post a lot of lies here, so it's no surprise to see you lying about me.


Pot, please meet my friend Kettle.
 
2012-06-13 08:00:11 PM

Mildot: Really, can we trust anything this squaw has to say?

[www.conservativedailynews.com image 590x421]


I am a quarter native american. My grandmother on my fathers side was full blooded. I almost never spent any time with that family branch and my parents divorced when i was 10. I have no papers to "prove" I am native american and I have never legally claimed I am a native american. But I have no problem telling people I am a quarter native american because it is the truth.

I don't even live on that side of the country but I can understand this concept. I am sorry you were born with inferior genes and are incapable of simple thought.
 
2012-06-13 08:03:14 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Well that settles it! I am not moving to Massachusetts to vote for her!


If you're a democrat, you can just day visit and vote. They won't care. They don't have ID check.
 
2012-06-13 08:06:05 PM

Kazrath: Mildot: Really, can we trust anything this squaw has to say?

[www.conservativedailynews.com image 590x421]

I am a quarter native american. My grandmother on my fathers side was full blooded. I almost never spent any time with that family branch and my parents divorced when i was 10. I have no papers to "prove" I am native american and I have never legally claimed I am a native american. But I have no problem telling people I am a quarter native american because it is the truth.

I don't even live on that side of the country but I can understand this concept. I am sorry you were born with inferior genes and are incapable of simple thought.


The difference being she isn't native american at all, and used her false claims publicly. You told the truth.

At any rate, I think it's humorous, nothing more. It certainly wouldn't be a voting issue were I to live in that area.
 
2012-06-13 08:07:15 PM
All the trolls are out today. My screen is awash in a sea of colors punctuated by grey bars. All the greats and the not so greats, completely ignorant of why the rich CEOs won't sleep with them, even though they try so hard.
 
2012-06-13 08:09:14 PM

Mrtraveler01: Got nothing huh?


I've been friends with her for months on FB, begone, pithy troll
 
2012-06-13 08:11:12 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: It certainly wouldn't be a voting issue were I to live in that area.


The red team seems determined to ride this issue all the way to November. It's all they got.
 
2012-06-13 08:12:35 PM

IoSaturnalia: 3_Butt_Cheeks: It certainly wouldn't be a voting issue were I to live in that area.

The red team seems determined to ride this issue all the way to November. It's all they got.


Perhaps they kinda like their candidate. Mass. seems to like him ok.
 
2012-06-13 08:13:00 PM
It amazes me that right-wingers think Warren is such a weak candidate. She's dead even with Brown and that's AFTER having a ton of bad press. The reality is that Brown is a very weak candidate who had the luck of running against an even worse candidate who took the race for granted. His latest campaign ad isn't even about him - it's a radio ad talking about how great the Celtics are... the week after they were eliminated.

What's more is that he's as RINO as it gets -- every time I've sent his office an email about some issue, he's written back vowing to take the position I'm asking him to, which is invariably the liberal position.
 
2012-06-13 08:17:46 PM

Edsel: every time I've sent his office an email about some issue, he's written back vowing to take the position I'm asking him to, which is invariably the liberal position.


This upsets you?
 
2012-06-13 08:18:19 PM
I love this injun.
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-13 08:19:33 PM

Mildot: Really, can we trust anything this squaw has to say?


That was a fabricated "controversy" from Scott Brown's campaign and was throughly debunked almost immediately. Everybody saw it as the weird and underhanded distraction it was meant to be. But as long as you want to revive it, Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee, just like the leader of the Cherokee Nation, Principal Chief Bill John Baker

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-13 08:20:05 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Edsel: every time I've sent his office an email about some issue, he's written back vowing to take the position I'm asking him to, which is invariably the liberal position.

This upsets you?


Not at all. I actually think he's done a pretty good job. He's more liberal than most of the Blue Dog Democrats are.
 
2012-06-13 08:21:24 PM
Gotta say its rather telling when all the republicans in this thread can't argue against any of her positions in any way, instead choosing to show their hatred and contempt for a strong, independent woman.

There's no hate like neocon hate.
 
2012-06-13 08:22:03 PM

Botkin of the Yard: I would like to see the GOP become the fairly responsible center-right sort of party it used to be. I was pleased to see Brown win two years ago because he seems to be the kind of republican who can be a part of that sort of transformation. He's fairly mainstream (pro-choice etc) and he doesn't go around saying crackpot things to satisfy some bunch of fundies. I realize he's in a pretty liberal state, but that's a start.


He also voted for the filibuster that ensured the Democrats couldn't pass a better health care reform bill, whereas Coakley would surely have helped break it. Scott Brown will always be a key vote for Republicans at critical moments to help defeat progressive reforms.
 
2012-06-13 08:22:53 PM

Notabunny: Mildot: Really, can we trust anything this squaw has to say?

That was a fabricated "controversy" from Scott Brown's campaign and was throughly debunked almost immediately. Everybody saw it as the weird and underhanded distraction it was meant to be. But as long as you want to revive it, Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee, just like the leader of the Cherokee Nation, Principal Chief Bill John Baker

[img.photobucket.com image 613x300]


it doesn't matter if she really is 1/1000 indian.

the issue is a lady who is as white as the driven snow claimed to be a woman of color, claimed to have lived the difficult life that exists for women of color, in order to secure preferential treatment from educational institutions. she's a fraud and an embarrassment to the human race.
 
2012-06-13 08:23:24 PM

Notabunny: Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee


Please call her and give her the proof she has been praying for, because she hasn't been able to find any.
 
2012-06-13 08:24:04 PM

Edsel: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Edsel: every time I've sent his office an email about some issue, he's written back vowing to take the position I'm asking him to, which is invariably the liberal position.

This upsets you?

Not at all. I actually think he's done a pretty good job. He's more liberal than most of the Blue Dog Democrats are.


Except that like Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, etc., he's only doing what he has to to survive in a liberal state. At critical moments, he will side with Republicans, no matter how far right, to defeat progressive reforms.
 
2012-06-13 08:26:44 PM

bugontherug: Edsel: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Edsel: every time I've sent his office an email about some issue, he's written back vowing to take the position I'm asking him to, which is invariably the liberal position.

This upsets you?

Not at all. I actually think he's done a pretty good job. He's more liberal than most of the Blue Dog Democrats are.

Except that like Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, etc., he's only doing what he has to to survive in a liberal state. At critical moments, he will side with Republicans, no matter how far right, to defeat progressive reforms.


Don't get me wrong - I don't think he's going to last long in MA. If it wasn't for Cherokee-gate I think he'd be getting completely trounced right now. Massachusetts is considerably more liberal than Maine. Hell, look at all the leftist positions Mitt Romney supported when he was a politician here.
 
2012-06-13 08:26:50 PM

Edsel: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Edsel: every time I've sent his office an email about some issue, he's written back vowing to take the position I'm asking him to, which is invariably the liberal position.

This upsets you?

Not at all. I actually think he's done a pretty good job. He's more liberal than most of the Blue Dog Democrats are.


I don't know all that much about him, so I can't really go all rah rah for him.

Bill Murray said I was weird: Gotta say its rather telling when all the republicans in this thread can't argue against any of her positions in any way, instead choosing to show their hatred and contempt for a strong, independent woman.


Hate? People are laughing mostly. I can't say I've seen anyone out there championing her positions. Strong and independent? How so? Such an overused bunch of nonsense. You have a bunch of her platform you wanna tout, lets hear it.
 
2012-06-13 08:29:41 PM

Edsel: bugontherug: Edsel: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Edsel: every time I've sent his office an email about some issue, he's written back vowing to take the position I'm asking him to, which is invariably the liberal position.

This upsets you?

Not at all. I actually think he's done a pretty good job. He's more liberal than most of the Blue Dog Democrats are.

Except that like Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, etc., he's only doing what he has to to survive in a liberal state. At critical moments, he will side with Republicans, no matter how far right, to defeat progressive reforms.

Don't get me wrong - I don't think he's going to last long in MA. If it wasn't for Cherokee-gate I think he'd be getting completely trounced right now. Massachusetts is considerably more liberal than Maine. Hell, look at all the leftist positions Mitt Romney supported when he was a politician here.


Has "Cherokee-gate" really gotten traction there? Jeez. What a stupid non-issue.
 
2012-06-13 08:31:30 PM

relcec: Notabunny: Mildot: Really, can we trust anything this squaw has to say?

That was a fabricated "controversy" from Scott Brown's campaign and was throughly debunked almost immediately. Everybody saw it as the weird and underhanded distraction it was meant to be. But as long as you want to revive it, Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee, just like the leader of the Cherokee Nation, Principal Chief Bill John Baker

[img.photobucket.com image 613x300]

it doesn't matter if she really is 1/1000 indian.

the issue is a lady who is as white as the driven snow claimed to be a woman of color, claimed to have lived the difficult life that exists for women of color, in order to secure preferential treatment from educational institutions. she's a fraud and an embarrassment to the human race.


[Citation Please]
 
2012-06-13 08:32:08 PM

bugontherug:

Except that like Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, etc., he's only doing what he has to to survive in a liberal state. At critical moments, he will side with Republicans, no matter how far right, to defeat progressive reforms.

Don't get me wrong - I don't think he's going to last long in MA. If it wasn't for Cherokee-gate I think he'd be getting completely trounced right now. Massachusetts is considerably more liberal than Maine. Hell, look at all the leftist positions Mitt Romney supported when he was a politician here.

Has "Cherokee-gate" really gotten traction there? Jeez. What a stupid non-issue.


Not the issue itself - the last poll showed that it didn't change many votes. But it has pretty much taken up all the oxygen in the race such that both campaigns have spent all their time talking about it. She hasn't been able to talk about her actual issues. Her campaign also royally farked it up by changing their response a couple of times, which made her look bad.
 
2012-06-13 08:33:12 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Notabunny: Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee

Please call her and give her the proof she has been praying for, because she hasn't been able to find any.


Document ties Warren kin to Cherokees
(Boston Globe, May 01, 2012)
 
2012-06-13 08:34:19 PM

Notabunny: relcec: Notabunny: Mildot: Really, can we trust anything this squaw has to say?

That was a fabricated "controversy" from Scott Brown's campaign and was throughly debunked almost immediately. Everybody saw it as the weird and underhanded distraction it was meant to be. But as long as you want to revive it, Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee, just like the leader of the Cherokee Nation, Principal Chief Bill John Baker

[img.photobucket.com image 613x300]

it doesn't matter if she really is 1/1000 indian.

the issue is a lady who is as white as the driven snow claimed to be a woman of color, claimed to have lived the difficult life that exists for women of color, in order to secure preferential treatment from educational institutions. she's a fraud and an embarrassment to the human race.

[Citation Please]


Fox said it, so it must be true. They are Fair and Balanced™ after all.
 
2012-06-13 08:36:26 PM

Notabunny: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Notabunny: Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee

Please call her and give her the proof she has been praying for, because she hasn't been able to find any.

Document ties Warren kin to Cherokees
(Boston Globe, May 01, 2012)


He meant an official Republican document. It's the only kind he recognizes.
 
2012-06-13 08:36:34 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks:

Hate? People are laughing mostly.


Your fellow loyal consservative beta_plus has admitted his hatred for her in multiple other threads, but then again this was the same guy who cheered on here when Rep Giffords was shot. I also believe your other loyal conservative Mein used his initial post in here to call her a "lying coont". Yeah, no hate there at all, or is it still the conservative platform that their hatred is somehow justified?
 
2012-06-13 08:36:39 PM

Notabunny: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Notabunny: Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee

Please call her and give her the proof she has been praying for, because she hasn't been able to find any.

Document ties Warren kin to Cherokees
(Boston Globe, May 01, 2012)


Issue settled.
 
2012-06-13 08:40:16 PM

Notabunny: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Notabunny: Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee

Please call her and give her the proof she has been praying for, because she hasn't been able to find any.

Document ties Warren kin to Cherokees
(Boston Globe, May 01, 2012)



Lynda Smith, the amateur genealogist who unknowingly found herself at the root of the false "Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee" meme introduced to the media by "noted" genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Genealogical Society, acknowledged in an email to me this past Saturday, May 12, that her statement in a March 2006 family newsletter upon which Mr. Child based his claim of Ms. Warren's Cherokee ancestry was made with no supporting documentation. It was, in fact, an honest mistake that Ms. Smith now acknowledges is entirely without foundation.

Appears not.
 
2012-06-13 08:42:03 PM

Bill Murray said I was weird: 3_Butt_Cheeks:

Hate? People are laughing mostly.

Your fellow loyal consservative beta_plus has admitted his hatred for her in multiple other threads, but then again this was the same guy who cheered on here when Rep Giffords was shot. I also believe your other loyal conservative Mein used his initial post in here to call her a "lying coont". Yeah, no hate there at all, or is it still the conservative platform that their hatred is somehow justified?


As i said clearly...MOSTLY.

And the issues you are so upset no one is debating? You certainly haven't put forth any.
 
2012-06-13 08:43:54 PM

bugontherug: Notabunny: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Notabunny: Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee

Please call her and give her the proof she has been praying for, because she hasn't been able to find any.

Document ties Warren kin to Cherokees
(Boston Globe, May 01, 2012)

Issue settled.


cameroncrazy1984: Notabunny: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Notabunny: Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee

Please call her and give her the proof she has been praying for, because she hasn't been able to find any.

Document ties Warren kin to Cherokees
(Boston Globe, May 01, 2012)

He meant an official Republican document. It's the only kind he recognizes.


Link
 
2012-06-13 08:45:20 PM

bugontherug: Notabunny: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Notabunny: Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee

Please call her and give her the proof she has been praying for, because she hasn't been able to find any.

Document ties Warren kin to Cherokees
(Boston Globe, May 01, 2012)

Issue settled.


Seriously, do you think they give two craps about things like facts and evidence? These are the people who are still harping about how they think birth certificates, newspaper announcements, and everything else has been faked in a giant conspiracy by shadowy organizations that wanted to put a non-American into office. They could give two craps about facts, or even about logic (it would be far easier to just buy an American politician to do their bidding, the old-fashioned way).
 
2012-06-13 08:46:49 PM

firefly212: Seriously, do you think they give two craps about things like facts and evidence?


Wow, maybe you should have finished the thread before that winner of a post.
 
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