poo, forgot the pic... THIS is my google profile pic now =D.

that's not right =/ it's the same... oops, stupid photobucket

spamdog: Saw this the other day...oh my god.

well, that was horrifically creepy

broktune: Thanks professor, that was a very well written diagnosis of cultures. I mean, do we really have to delve this deep when we are talking about My Little Farking Pony? You will never, ever convince me that this show wasn't made specifically with little girls in mind. That is my point. Why are grown men watching this show specifically. I'm happy for your smarts. I'm sure you do well at cocktail parties. I applaud you. You're right, I haven't spent time researching this specific topic, you are above me. Again, to say that society has brainwashed males and females into enjoying certain things has some logic to it. But to make it an absolute is ludicrous. What will you buy your nephew for his birthday, a doll, a my little pony? No, most likely, you'll buy him those toys society forces on us maaaaan: a car, blocks, or a football. This isn't rocket science, it's simple human nature. Grown men watching My Little Pony is strange to many. That's just how it is. To explain it away by numerous uses of the word penis does little to explain this strange fascination with a little girls show.

You're being obtuse. Everything, and I do mean everything you just said right there outlines social constructs, not natural biological differences. Human beings, as creatures, imprint on societal norms as babies through their earliest development phases. However, there is also the false premise that gender biases are binary - only a minority of boys are purely into "boy things" exclusively, while most still show varying levels of interest in traditionally "feminine" things (makeup, jewelry, scents, soft cloths, babies, etc.). Many hide it due to ego overriding interest, driving right back at that societal pressure to conform to either a masculine or feminine ideal.

You're wasting time railing against what you perceive to be the "pussification" (not your words, but your sentiment) of the American Male, while sticking your head in the sand to the truth that Males have always been spread all over the gender bias spectrum. The reason things are more transparent these days is due to ubiquitous instant-communication technology. Societal norms exert less pressure when people are capable of researching issues and understanding what really is "normal" compared to what society declares.

tl;dr - Shiat like this has always been normal. You're just waking up to that fact. Go rooting through the possessions of men throughout the ages, and you'll find plenty of evidence to challenge your binary world view.

/and like I said, a good show is a good show
//doesn't matter who the target demo happens to be

Kuroshin: broktune: Thanks professor, that was a very well written diagnosis of cultures. I mean, do we really have to delve this deep when we are talking about My Little Farking Pony? You will never, ever convince me that this show wasn't made specifically with little girls in mind. That is my point. Why are grown men watching this show specifically. I'm happy for your smarts. I'm sure you do well at cocktail parties. I applaud you. You're right, I haven't spent time researching this specific topic, you are above me. Again, to say that society has brainwashed males and females into enjoying certain things has some logic to it. But to make it an absolute is ludicrous. What will you buy your nephew for his birthday, a doll, a my little pony? No, most likely, you'll buy him those toys society forces on us maaaaan: a car, blocks, or a football. This isn't rocket science, it's simple human nature. Grown men watching My Little Pony is strange to many. That's just how it is. To explain it away by numerous uses of the word penis does little to explain this strange fascination with a little girls show.

You're being obtuse. Everything, and I do mean everything you just said right there outlines social constructs, not natural biological differences. Human beings, as creatures, imprint on societal norms as babies through their earliest development phases. However, there is also the false premise that gender biases are binary - only a minority of boys are purely into "boy things" exclusively, while most still show varying levels of interest in traditionally "feminine" things (makeup, jewelry, scents, soft cloths, babies, etc.). Many hide it due to ego overriding interest, driving right back at that societal pressure to conform to either a masculine or feminine ideal.

You're wasting time railing against what you perceive to be the "pussification" (not your words, but your sentiment) of the American Male, while sticking your head in the sand to the truth that Males have always been s ...

Not only will you not change his mind. I sincerely doubt he is even taking to heart the content of what you are saying. I think he's skimming through it looking for reasons to be dismissive by either questioning your motives of attacking you directly. Being right or wrong here (and you are right) has no bearing in a debate where both sides are not open minded. A super simple counter example would be to show that a hundred years ago little boys wore pink and wore dresses. You will find it impossible to dissuade him of the notion that MLP is a little girls show. No matter why you/I/we like it, no matter how adult oriented it really is, no matter why so many other adults enjoy it, you won't get him past the wall in the road of "it's a show for 8yo girls" I'm not necessarily saying give up, but at least acknowledge that its a losing battle if you continue.

spamdog: Keizer_Ghidorah: If it's not harming anyone, why are you making such a big deal of it?

I can do whatever the fark I like.

yes you can. that goes without saying... but *why* are you?

spamdog: Uchiha_Cycliste: but *why* are you?

What, expressing my opinion? Do I need a reason for that?

Yes, you do. Unless you're mentally ill, you have reasons for each and every one of your behaviors. Obviously you don't have to share it with the rest of us if you don't want to, but chances are that you have a reason to express your opinion.

spamdog: Uchiha_Cycliste: but *why* are you?

What, expressing my opinion? Do I need a reason for that?

nope. not at all. but don't you think it's a bit immature to come into a thread and call all the posters friendless weirdos? It makes people wonder what your motivations are, or at the very least why/how you've come to the conclusion that people watching a TV how called friendship is magic, some of whom clearly seem to be friends with others in the thread, are friendless. That just seems silly. It's like going into a thread where people are discussing their daily multi-hour exercise regimens and calling them all fat and weak-willed.

Teufelaffe
I think it's fantastic that our responses are contradictory.
I think I took his question a little more literally... he doesn't need a reason to express an opinion (in he general sense) , but he DOES need a reason to be expressing the thoughts and opinions he has shared with us. At least he's not bottling it all up for himself.

\sharing is caring =P

YAY! I was post 420

Uchiha_Cycliste: Not only will you not change his mind. I sincerely doubt he is even taking to heart the content of what you are saying. I think he's skimming through it looking for reasons to be dismissive by either questioning your motives of attacking you directly. Being right or wrong here (and you are right) has no bearing in a debate where both sides are not open minded. A super simple counter example would be to show that a hundred years ago little boys wore pink and wore dresses. You will find it impossible to dissuade him of the notion that MLP is a little girls show. No matter why you/I/we like it, no matter how adult oriented it really is, no matter why so many other adults enjoy it, you won't get him past the wall in the road of "it's a show for 8yo girls" I'm not necessarily saying give up, but at least acknowledge that its a losing battle if you continue.

Except that if I keep on this track, it gives me an excuse to post this:



This is a man that likes MLP:FiM entering Turn 6 at The Ridge doing better than 80mph.

Es muy macho!

/turn exit has me leaning much farther over
//knee pucks still pristine :(
///darn R6 makes it hard to drag knee, even when leaned over more than 45º

Mid-corner. Final lean angle still not set. I have a bad habit of turning this constant-radius corner into a reducing-radius corner due to my bad line. I'm trying to keep it tight and leave room at the outside for faster riders to pass me, which results in wonky lines.



/why yes I AM bored!

BigJake: from the mouths of manbabes

that's actually very, incredibly complimentary. Thank you. It's probably the nicest thing you've ever said on fark.

Kuroshin: Uchiha_Cycliste: Not only will you not change his mind. I sincerely doubt he is even taking to heart the content of what you are saying. I think he's skimming through it looking for reasons to be dismissive by either questioning your motives of attacking you directly. Being right or wrong here (and you are right) has no bearing in a debate where both sides are not open minded. A super simple counter example would be to show that a hundred years ago little boys wore pink and wore dresses. You will find it impossible to dissuade him of the notion that MLP is a little girls show. No matter why you/I/we like it, no matter how adult oriented it really is, no matter why so many other adults enjoy it, you won't get him past the wall in the road of "it's a show for 8yo girls" I'm not necessarily saying give up, but at least acknowledge that its a losing battle if you continue.

Except that if I keep on this track, it gives me an excuse to post this:

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This is a man that likes MLP:FiM entering Turn 6 at The Ridge doing better than 80mph.

Es muy macho!

/turn exit has me leaning much farther over
//knee pucks still pristine :(
///darn R6 makes it hard to drag knee, even when leaned over more than 45º

Dude, that's super sweet. I'm incredibly jealous.
I can't ever ride/have a motorcycle. I totally lack the capacity for moderation and self-control. If suddenly I'm on a bike that can go as fast as I want *WITHOUT* pedaling I'll die. Simple as that.
Similarly, when I rent a car (as I am rarely but occasionally wont to do) I specifically ask for their weakest and most gutless car. I will redline the sucker, whatever they give me. So I like a car with no engine. Something with horsepower in the 80's or 90's. that makes me a happy camper.

On a quasi related note, my ride to work on Tuesday morning was my best evar. By far. I took the longer route, 21 miles. It flirts with the peninsula foothills on the edge of Stanfurd's campus, and then bee-lines it into silicon valley. It accumulatively has 390 feet of ascent. I did it in 56:54 door to door. Garmin gave me a recorded average speed of 22 (actual was probably in the 23's or 24's because of accelerations and decelerations. Average recorded cadence was 92 (actual appears to be about 100) , average recorded Heart Rate was 167 (actual appears to be 174). I've been working towards breaking an hour on this route for years, and Tuesday I blew an hour out of the water! I'm so very proud. Now I just gotta get strong enough I can do this every day =D.

Anyways, riding a motorcycle would kill me, which saddens me but I realize it so I abstain. Your bike looks awesome and I'm jealous.

BronyMedic: spamdog: What, expressing my opinion? Do I need a reason for that?

What, for being creepily obsessed with what other people find entertaining?

Yeah. You need a reason for that.

he's living vicariously through us, he sees a community and doesn't understand what and how that can be, so he's exploring what it means be attacking it.

BigJake: The point was that gender is not a social construct.

That's funny, not a single person in this thread has said that gender is a social construct. Did you have fun knocking down that strawman? Was it a tough fight? I hope you didn't hurt yourself.

BronyMedic: I believe the argument was that Gender Roles and behavioral norms were a social construct.

Exactly.

Gender roles ≠ Gender, ergo BigJake missed the point entirely and then lashed out at other people because he missed the point. I'd agree with I created this alt... and say he's an amusing idiot, but I don't find the willfully ignorant to be particularly amusing. Just tiresome.

Bleh, that should have been "Gender roles/norms ≠ Gender"

I created this alt just for this thread: BigJake: Teufelaffe: If that wasn't your point

The point was that gender is not a social construct. There's a reason you're the only person I have tagged thusly

Wait you thought someone was claiming that GENDER was a social construct?

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The fact that you then have the balls to point out that you've marked someone else as IDIOT is just icing on the cake. I will say this for you Jake, as far as amusing idiots go you're pretty amusing. Maybe a little heavy on the idiot, but still amusing.

It really makes you wonder, don't you think?
Does this come naturally to him?
Is he *trying* to be this stupid.?
For example. there is the idiocy you just pointed out.
There is the incredible compliment he paid me, while trying to insult me =P.
He couldn't suck anymore without being a dyson plugged into the wall during a hurricane. And he couldn't fail any harder without being a blind counter-fitter inadvertently using crayons.

Uchiha_Cycliste: Dude, that's super sweet. I'm incredibly jealous.
I can't ever ride/have a motorcycle. I totally lack the capacity for moderation and self-control. If suddenly I'm on a bike that can go as fast as I want *WITHOUT* pedaling I'll die. Simple as that.
Similarly, when I rent a car (as I am rarely but occasionally wont to do) I specifically ask for their weakest and most gutless car. I will redline the sucker, whatever they give me. So I like a car with no engine. Something with horsepower in the 80's or 90's. that makes me a happy camper.

On a quasi related note, my ride to work on Tuesday morning was my best evar. By far. I took the longer route, 21 miles. It flirts with the peninsula foothills on the edge of Stanfurd's campus, and then bee-lines it into silicon valley. It accumulatively has 390 feet of ascent. I did it in 56:54 door to door. Garmin gave me a recorded average speed of 22 (actual was probably in the 23's or 24's because of accelerations and decelerations. Average recorded cadence was 92 (actual appears to be about 100) , average recorded Heart Rate was 167 (actual appears to be 174). I've been working towards breaking an hour on this route for years, and Tuesday I blew an hour out of the water! I'm so very proud. Now I just gotta get strong enough I can do this every day =D.

Anyways, riding a motorcycle would kill me, which saddens me but I realize it so I abstain. Your bike looks awesome and I'm jealous.

You'd fit right in with a good number of the track rats. I'm the conservative perfectionist, more concerned with getting my technique down and edging upward into the range where the bike is designed to perform. About half the other guys at the track are hormone junkies who aren't happy unless they nearly fling the bike off around every corner. You can tell who's who by looking at their gear. The junkies have gear rashed up along every surface, bikes with half (or all) of the plastics missing and mismatched parts.

But that's what the gear's for. Keeps ya relatively okay, while the track itself is designed to minimize sidelong impacts.

I'm sure moike has plenty of stories... LOL

A few of my pals don't ride on the street anymore, because they'd just get in trouble/dead. They save their bikes for the track.

Bought a Trek Soho S a few weeks ago, to get myself back into some form of decent shape. Wanted a SS to start for the simplicity (and I hate tuning shiat), while I'll flop it over to a taller fixed gear once I feel I'm not getting the workout I need from having the ability to coast.

I can make it maybe two miles before getting winded. :/

/so out of shape...

First off, don't switch to fixie mode. it will just accelerate knee wear. There are really three and only three (two of which are related) reasons to fixie a bike.
First and most obvious is racing at a velodrome.
Second is anti theft. It's a very simple bike little to steal, but from out point of view no different from a SS. This point also relates to the third.
Third, before disc brakes it was absolutely necessary for bike messengers. The fixed gear gives unparalleled stopping power in the rain. Rim brakes don't even come close. Rain doesn't stop messengers from having to deliver, it just makes ther runs more dangerous. Because they can stop the wheel at will, all they have to worry about is traction with the road which they can improve with tire pressure and width. Similarly fixies (especially the ones w/o quick releases) are easy to (un)lock quickly. see point two.

Everything you'e said tells me that none of these points come into play. So i beg you, stay in SS mode. All messengers will tell you that the fixie destroyed their knees. It's not worth it. Instead get a Garmin 500, or some other cyclometer with a cadence sensor and learn to spin. All the benefits and none of the risk.

More to follow in upcoming posts. This stands alone to stress its importance.

Uchiha_Cycliste: spamdog: Saw this the other day...oh my god.

well, that was horrifically creepy

See, that's what I'm saying. While there are some dudes who watch and think they are Bronies, the real bronies are still better than furries.

Now, it should go without saying. Btu if you have any questions, or you need mechanical (wrenching) help, or tips about commuting and riding etc... email me and let me know. I'll help in every way that I can. It's too bad you are 650 miles away. But you can always email me and then we an talk over the phone.

If your goal is truly increased fitness you will see the greatest gains from climbing. It will suck at first, and it will suck for quite a while... like a month probably, if you are willing to climb once or twice every weekend. However, once you get over that hump you will start getting much stronger and much fitter relatively quickly. Go hang out near the International Rose Test garden At first your goals should be just to get up the danm thing no matter how long it takes and how painful it is. After you have one climb under your belt, start doing longer climbs or more short climbs.( Incidentally another bonus of SS over fixue is the ability to descend hills and mountains.) You will probably find it beneficial to add bar ends to your bike. When you do so, remember that the bar ends should be parallel with the stem, whatever angle that may be. It will give you the most power, and the most comfortable position when using the bar ends, no matter how wacky it may look.

Every time you ride you need to check off the following things:
Gloves (numero uno)
Helmet
Spare tube, hand/frame pump, tires levers (if necessary) and the knowledge of how to change a flat.
If you are riding for more than 15 minutes you need water (or Gatorade) with you, and you should be drinking a little bit every 10 minutes.
If you are riding for more than 75 minutes you need food and should be eating a little something every 15 minutes. Bananas, tangerines and candy bars are personal favorites for ease of consumption, cost, tastiness and convenience.
If it is hot and sunny wear sunscreen.
I HIGHLY recommend you be wearing at least shorts with a chamois. Whether racer style lycra like I wear, or baggy shorts like may mountain bikers wear

Your saddle should be parallel with the ground and should be positioned such that you are sitting only on your sit bones.
If everything is set up right you should have no issues with your perennial nerve. Likewise, if you ever, EVAR have your junk go numb then you have positioning problems that must be dealt with promptly.

Well bud, that's all the basic info I have to impart upon you.
I'm going to get my shiat together and ride to work in a minute When I get there I'll respond to any inquiries you may have and I have some motorcycle ones myself.
ttyl
-dave

Now with regards

cretinbob: Uchiha_Cycliste: spamdog: Saw this the other day...oh my god.

well, that was horrifically creepy

See, that's what I'm saying. While there are some dudes who watch and think they are Bronies, the real bronies are still better than furries.

I feel that anyone who watches and enjoys the show (and self-identifies) is a Brony.
That guy is a freak. If it was MLP it would be Sailor moon, or Sesame street, or Fresh Air, or something. He i off, and in this instance is using MLP-FIM as his outlet.
It is totally unfair to place all Bronies in a bucket based on him.

It's almost exactly like judging, comparing (to norms), criticizing and grouping all cyclists together in a bucket based on Biker Fox. It's a really dick move and wholly inappropriate.