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(Pensito Review)   Big Media can't be bothered to keep up with the Romney campaign's Rovian 'blizzard of lies' strategy   (pensitoreview.com) divider line 200
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2012-06-13 07:10:05 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: FlashHarry: romney's just so farking brazen about it. and the media NEVER calls him on any of it. it's incredibly frustrating. they've been in the tank for him from the get-go.

welcome to 2008.

were you as butt hurt back then too?


A bit, but it wasn't as successful in 2008, as evidence by the fact that they failed to get John McCain elected despite being in the tank for him.
 
2012-06-13 07:19:54 PM  

MFL: Obama did Keynes


No.
 
2012-06-13 07:25:18 PM  
I'm not a mormon, nor particularly very religious in any way... but I wish someone would confront Romney at a town hall or something like that with his lies and then ask Romney how he rationalizes lying to become president when lying is such a big no no in his religion that he holds so dear?

"Governor Romney, how do you expect God to give you a planet in the afterlife if you're too busy lying to succeed in this one?"

/my kingdom for someone to ask him that question.
 
2012-06-13 07:40:38 PM  

Jim_Callahan: That said, this is ridiculously unfair to Romney even for the internet. Rhetoric that's not 100% factually correct is not the same thing as lying, in US politics you're expected to be somewhat hyperbolic and emotional and Obama does it too.


Oh please. Non-factual "rhetoric" is lying.

I'm seriously disappointed in Obama, but everything he says is gone over with a finetooth comb for any departure from fact, however minor. The same is not true of Romney's constant prevarications. Just look at what he tried to pull with the auto bailout. The sad thing is that there are millions of folks so stupid that they now believe he would have done what Obama did, but it would have worked much better. Why? Just because...

LYING
 
2012-06-13 07:44:19 PM  

justtray: Diogenes: tenpoundsofcheese: You claimed I am making excuses for Romney's lies.

See Slaxl's post above yours. You're giving him a blanket excuse to lie because of your perceived media complicity with an imaginary liberal agenda.

Annndd..... He wont be coming back to this thread.


I didn't put words into his mouth. Just because we operate in different timezones doesn't mean I don't check back.

I said nothing but what he originally said. I wanted him to clarify his position, you failed.
 
2012-06-13 07:46:08 PM  

bdub77: Bag of Hammers: Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.

That must be the stupidest quote I've ever read.


I take it you learned to read very recently?

I hate to tell you this, but your efforts to poke holes in Orwell's point only proved it.
 
2012-06-13 08:00:24 PM  
Where have you gone, Hunter S. Thompson?
 
2012-06-13 08:09:09 PM  
FTA:

"Reality-based writers on the Web step up as they did in the Bush era"

cache.ohinternet.com

I think they meant "LIBTARD-reality based writers on the web". Talk about a bunch of homers. I thought I was reading one of Weber's posts.
 
2012-06-13 08:14:33 PM  

MadAzza: Where have you gone, Hunter S. Thompson?


To the grave. We have about a hundred year before Spider Jerusalem shows up.
 
2012-06-13 08:15:14 PM  

MFL: e. 9 million jobs lost over last 5 years only 2.7 million have come back over the course of 4 years.


Wow, it's... almost like it's easy to fark things up and slow/difficult to repair them. Oh well, I mean, it was only 20 years of bullshiat and houses of cards coming down in 2008, some of which are still in the process of collapsing. Surely you're right, why wouldn't the economy magically bounce back like nothing happened after 3.5 years?

/The Republicans not deliberately doing everything they can to harm it to hurt Obama would help for sure
 
2012-06-13 08:20:15 PM  
I must be tired i read that as, Penis to Review?
 
2012-06-13 08:25:10 PM  

GleeUnit: tenpoundsofcheese: Therion: tenpoundsofcheese: FlashHarry: romney's just so farking brazen about it. and the media NEVER calls him on any of it. it's incredibly frustrating. they've been in the tank for him from the get-go.

welcome to 2008.

were you as butt hurt back then too?

Yeah! Why didn't we ever hear anything about Obama's radical black separatist preacher or how he was pallin' around with terrorists? The Liberal Media was conspiring to put a Kenyan Socialist in charge!

Did you hear that spin from the LSM? Ooops. You didn't. You heard them making excuses.

You farking obnoxious, lying piece of shiat. I really don't want fark to turn into an echo chamber, but I've listened to your horseshiat for months and months now, and you never have anything to offer but pre-approved talking points and circular reasoning. I can get that just about anywhere.

Congratulations and welcome to the ignore list, you knuckle-dragging farktard.

/oh noes, ad hominem!!
//You've earned it, shiat stain.


So you call him a shiat stain, then ignore him so you can't feel the biatch slaps he lays on you?

That makes you a pussy. Yeah, that it, a PUSSY.

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i.ytimg.com


/iggy me?
//I'm favoriting you, just so I can see the butthurt.
///yep, I'm white knighting tenpoundsofcheese, so what?
 
2012-06-13 08:27:53 PM  

MFL: ImpendingCynic
He also inherited the worst recession since the Great Depression. And 70+ years later, experts are still debating whether FDR did the right things or the wrong things, so why do you think this recovery should be so easy?

Reagan did Friedman, Obama did Keynes. The results speak for themselves.


Sure, by changing the discussion. If I compare Obama to the movie "Brewster's Millions" I can conclude that Obama is a failure at spreading the wealth.

I compared Obama to FDR and you bring Reagan into it. Fine. Then you also overlooked the two things that make today different from the early 80s - there's no massive inflation, and Reagan raised taxes.
 
2012-06-13 08:32:14 PM  

MFL:
No. I'm blaming Obama because he doesn't know what the fark he's doing. His presidency is a farking disaster because he has no leadership ability and his economics are assbackwards.


Yeah, we need to go back to Reagan's tax levels!
 
2012-06-13 08:37:06 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: FlashHarry: romney's just so farking brazen about it. and the media NEVER calls him on any of it. it's incredibly frustrating. they've been in the tank for him from the get-go.

Exactly. Romey says whatever he pleases, changing positions from one day to the next. Meanwhile, Obama gets his jokes 'fact-checked'.


this
 
2012-06-13 08:44:12 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Republicans: They reject your reality and substitute their own.


Democrats: They suck your balls dry, then try to kiss you in the mouth.
 
2012-06-13 08:49:59 PM  

ImpendingCynic:

I compared Obama to FDR and you bring Reagan into it. Fine. Then you also overlooked the two things that make today different from the early 80s - there's no massive inflation, and Reagan raised taxes.


He also spent like my girlfriend with a platinum visa
 
2012-06-13 08:51:07 PM  

gaspode: ImpendingCynic:

I compared Obama to FDR and you bring Reagan into it. Fine. Then you also overlooked the two things that make today different from the early 80s - there's no massive inflation, and Reagan raised taxes.

He also spent like my girlfriend with a platinum visa


Well that was OK, because Communists.

Which is why it was OK under Bush, because Terrorists.
 
2012-06-13 08:58:38 PM  

LordJiro: gaspode: ImpendingCynic:

I compared Obama to FDR and you bring Reagan into it. Fine. Then you also overlooked the two things that make today different from the early 80s - there's no massive inflation, and Reagan raised taxes.

He also spent like my girlfriend with a platinum visa

Well that was OK, because Communists.

Which is why it was OK under Bush, because Terrorists.


You guys should stop bashing St. Ronnie for being a spendthrift. I for one am exceedingly pleased with my GIANT SPACE LAZOR and am of the opinion it was worth every cent other people's children will pay for it.
 
2012-06-13 11:07:31 PM  
The media wants a horse race. That's how they make money. Expect them to do everything they can to make that happen.
 
2012-06-13 11:12:02 PM  

Garet Garrett: Politifact


That's exactly where it lost me.

Do many people feel this way? I like Politifact... I don't think it leans in either direction.
 
2012-06-13 11:42:04 PM  

ImpendingCynic: MFL: ImpendingCynic
He also inherited the worst recession since the Great Depression. And 70+ years later, experts are still debating whether FDR did the right things or the wrong things, so why do you think this recovery should be so easy?

Reagan did Friedman, Obama did Keynes. The results speak for themselves.

Sure, by changing the discussion. If I compare Obama to the movie "Brewster's Millions" I can conclude that Obama is a failure at spreading the wealth.

I compared Obama to FDR and you bring Reagan into it. Fine. Then you also overlooked the two things that make today different from the early 80s - there's no massive inflation, and Reagan raised taxes.



And increased federal spending by how much was it?
 
2012-06-13 11:53:09 PM  
"It's the unfounded claims that are driving me nuts."

Instead of sponsoring people for totallfark, can we hire a guy to follow Romney around with a Citation Needed sign?
 
2012-06-14 12:07:01 AM  

MFL: Reagan did Friedman, Obama did Keynes. The results speak for themselves.


If by "Obama did Keynes" you mean a modest one-time stimulus, then yes, I guess he did. Also I guess you have no idea what Keynesianism actually means.
 
2012-06-14 01:17:40 AM  

SuperTramp: FTFA: (for recently educated folks, please know that "XX" is the Roman numeral for "20.")

snicker.


Damn, I thought it was porn, but with no butt stuff.
 
2012-06-14 01:27:22 AM  

GhostFish: The media wants a horse race. That's how they make money. Expect them to do everything they can to make that happen.


Can we decide the next election via a horse race? Or a foot race? My money is on the young black man, but maybe we can get some takers for the pasty old white guy.
 
2012-06-14 01:27:22 AM  

MFL: No. I'm blaming Obama because he doesn't know what the fark he's doing. His presidency is a farking disaster because he has no leadership ability and his economics are assbackwards.


Obama is responsible for the sins of the banking industry for the last decade? For the global recession/depression? For Portugal, Ireland, Spain and Greece?

The idea that one man, the President, is somehow responsible for the global recession is just, well, ludicrous.

That you try to blame it all on Obama makes me feel really bad for you as a person. I hope you come to your senses. You inability to see past "it's all Obama's fault" really is just plain sad.
 
2012-06-14 01:31:08 AM  

MFL: downpaymentblues 7.1% without all the lost jobs in the public sector

What does that have to do with anything?




You can't both scream "shrink government!!!" which is REALLY "lay of American workers!!!", then complain that the unemployment level isn't lower AND blame it on Obama. It's pretty simple, really. Not a difficult concept to understand, in my opinion.
 
2012-06-14 01:47:49 AM  

MFL: Reagan did Friedman, Obama did Keynes. The results speak for themselves.


Reagan and Bush II did Friedman, Bush I and Clinton did Keynes, and the results really do speak for themselves.

Obama did Friedman with vague attempts at Keynes largely shot down by a rabid congress.
 
2012-06-14 02:01:00 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Diogenes: tenpoundsofcheese: Diogenes: tenpoundsofcheese: You heard them making excuses.

As you are, for Romney's lies.

wut? you are lying.

Oh grow up.

You claimed I am making excuses for Romney's lies. You are lying.
What Romney lie are you referring to? Please be specific. Or are you lying again?


3/10

/Obvious Troll is Obvious
 
2012-06-14 04:33:32 AM  
Well, in all fairness, if he can't answer the question, he has at least learned the answer "all of them" is not a good one.
 
2012-06-14 04:36:27 AM  
Oh farking HELL!! Can you BELIEVE the mendacious pseudo-naive sh*t tenpoundsofderp is spewing!?

Why can't we petition Drew about the trolls!?
 
2012-06-14 04:50:25 AM  
Hell, even Newt Gingrich says Romney is a LIAR.
 
2012-06-14 05:24:37 AM  

Kittypie070: Hell, even Newt Gingrich says Romney is a LIAR.


You say you are lying, but if everything you say is a lie, then you are telling the truth, but you cannot tell the truth because everything you say is a lie, but you lie... You tell the truth but you cannot for you lie... illogical! Illogical! Please explain! You are human. Only humans can explain their behavior! Please explain!
 
2012-06-14 05:52:58 AM  
How can you tell when Rmoney is lying? When he's opening his mouth!

I'll be here all night....

Thank God it's almost morning
 
2012-06-14 06:05:13 AM  

Cletus C.: *Pac-Man Chart*


My absolute favorite thing about that chart is that it's wrong.

The section labeled "does not resemble Pac-Man" is precisely what makes the graph resemble Pac-Man.

We're through the looking-glass here, people.
 
2012-06-14 07:37:22 AM  

Jim_Callahan: I'm not really a fan of Romney and I think Obama is, at least by contrast, one of our more open and reasonable politicians.

That said, this is ridiculously unfair to Romney even for the internet. Rhetoric that's not 100% factually correct is not the same thing as lying, in US politics you're expected to be somewhat hyperbolic and emotional and Obama does it too. The media isn't "fact-checking" things like "Obama has no jobs plan" because only someone being intentionally obtuse would interpret that as "Obama's administration has literally put forward zero ideas regarding federal encouragement of hiring and employee retention" when it clearly means "In my opinion, this administrations efforts regarding employment have been insufficient".

This bullshiat is nonsense in the same vein as the media making a big deal over the "the private sector is fine" sound bite (from a larger speech outlining plans for aiding the private sector which make the meaning clear from context) and the "we don't need more teachers" sound-bite (in a similar speech making the actual meaning clear in context). I don't need the media to fact check jokes, hyperbole, and one-liners for me, because I'm at least slightly smarter than a doorknob and thus already know from context that that's what they are. All I need them to fact-check are actual specific claims presented as important, in-context details of plans of action. Because I need to know if the environmental impact assessments actually recommend delaying the construction of the trans-national oil pipeline project when we're considering investing lots of money in it, and I don't need to know whether the governor of NJ actually put exactly 10% of the legislature behind bars for corruption as AG when he's making a casual point about corruption in the state being a problem.


Sorry but that really doesn't excuse the serious factual lies Romney has told. The 20 lists are not all subjective things. Did you read them? Lying about having been worried about getting fired (He fired people for a living, successfully), lying about Obama's opinion constantly... I could go on. You named one type of "lie" and excused it. Well, fine; go subtract all lies that are really "exaggerations" from those twenty lists of lies.
 
2012-06-14 07:56:31 AM  

gaspode: ImpendingCynic:

I compared Obama to FDR and you bring Reagan into it. Fine. Then you also overlooked the two things that make today different from the early 80s - there's no massive inflation, and Reagan raised taxes.

He also spent like my girlfriend with a platinum visa


and made deals with terrorists.
 
2012-06-14 08:02:29 AM  

jcooli09: gaspode: ImpendingCynic:

I compared Obama to FDR and you bring Reagan into it. Fine. Then you also overlooked the two things that make today different from the early 80s - there's no massive inflation, and Reagan raised taxes.

He also spent like my girlfriend with a platinum visa

and made deals with terrorists.


I almost forgot - ushered in the era of modern deficit spending. Our national debt is Reagans legacy.
 
2012-06-14 08:40:25 AM  

born_yesterday: Diogenes: Therion: Yeah! Why didn't we ever hear anything about Obama's radical black separatist preacher or how he was pallin' around with terrorists? The Liberal Media was conspiring to put a Kenyan Socialist in charge!

And yet it was the other campaign that kept demonizing the media for asking questions like and such.

Not since Machiavelli has the world seen the sharp and incisive political killer-instinct possessed by Katie Couric. She alone destroyed the entire McCain/Palin campaign, bringing it to its knees with query and insight heretofore unseen in American politics.

"Which newspapers or magazines do you like to read?"

DIABOLICAL


She's like Maloghurst and Sindermann put together?
 
2012-06-14 08:49:08 AM  

ImpendingCynic: tenpoundsofcheese: Diogenes: tenpoundsofcheese: You heard them making excuses.

As you are, for Romney's lies.

wut? you are lying.

Ah, yes, the ol' "I know you are, but what am I?" defense. You hit me with that one last week.

Are you actually a ten year old, or do you just enjoy behaving like one?


That would have made him 6 the last time we all watched him throw his tantrums on the internet.

Or he was 10 then and 14 now. Or 14 then and 18 now. Or 30 then and 34 now.

Point is that in 4 whole years he hasn't grown at all as a person. Thinks exactly the way he did before, writes the same way he did before, probably does the same thing he did before in real life too.

Sad. Really.
 
2012-06-14 12:15:10 PM  

TheBigJerk: MFL: Reagan did Friedman, Obama did Keynes. The results speak for themselves.

Reagan and Bush II did Friedman, Bush I and Clinton did Keynes, and the results really do speak for themselves.

Obama did Friedman with vague attempts at Keynes largely shot down by a rabid congress.


Reagan did Keynes, look up "weaponized Keynesianism".

Isn't that how he won the Cold War, by military spending so massive that the Soviets couldn't keep up?
 
2012-06-14 01:02:42 PM  

Gaseous Anomaly: TheBigJerk: MFL: Reagan did Friedman, Obama did Keynes. The results speak for themselves.

Reagan and Bush II did Friedman, Bush I and Clinton did Keynes, and the results really do speak for themselves.

Obama did Friedman with vague attempts at Keynes largely shot down by a rabid congress.

Reagan did Keynes, look up "weaponized Keynesianism".

Isn't that how he won the Cold War, by military spending so massive that the Soviets couldn't keep up?


That's the myth.

It didn't help that Reagan was getting intel on the Soviets from a bunch of people who were making it all up, claiming the Soviets were well ahead of the US in technology and numbers.
 
2012-06-14 02:09:04 PM  

MFL: The private sector is doing fine


I love how the righties are running with this one. And repeating the LIE that he was referring to the "economy" in general as opposed to job loss/gain in the government versus the private sector, when in fact the truth is that the most jobs losses are in government (which the righties claim to want) and the majority of growth is in the private sector (which they also claim to want)!

But somehow, saying that this is happening is a "gaffe" of world-shaking proportions.

Which they can support only by mangling the context and ignoring the facts.

In other words, another day that ends with a y.

How can people live with such levels of deceit? It would be too painful to endure, for me.

My father-in-law has been sending easily disprovable multi-FW: emails to us since the Clinton Administration. In one memorable instance I sent him to the supposedly-injured party's own website, where on the front page there was a prominent announcement to the effect of "We have become aware that there is a email circulating disparaging the First Lady and her interaction with this office. The event described NEVER HAPPENED and we encourage everyone to ignore this false email and stop spreading it". His response?

"I don't care if it's true or not. It's still a good story." (Exact quote)

So I guess that's it. They don't care about the Truth, only the narrative matters.

Sad.
 
2012-06-14 02:29:10 PM  

Mercutio74: Maybe the Obama campaign should just start ringing the "Romney's a liar" bell. After all BLIZZARD OF LIES is really, really evocative and catchy. It's easier to just paint everything Romney says as a lie... hell, you'd be accurate more than half the time.


Heck, it's already got a theme song!

Not Dave Frischberg, but a pretty good rendition
 
2012-06-14 02:56:39 PM  

Tumunga: Democrats: They suck your balls dry, then try to kiss you in the mouth.


Don't try to act like you don't like it, biatch.
 
2012-06-14 03:10:25 PM  

Deucednuisance: Tumunga: Democrats: They suck your balls dry, then try to kiss you in the mouth.

Don't try to act like you don't like it, biatch.


Teddy? Is that you???
 
2012-06-14 05:36:41 PM  
whats the record?

the Facts?

GDP grew at 3% Last year

GDP grew at 2% this year

GDP is forecast to grow at 1% next year

Just the Facts folks, just the facts
 
2012-06-15 03:55:19 AM  
what is Tumunga's ongoing obsession with balls and sucking thereof and such?

I've seen it before.
 
2012-06-15 03:00:57 PM  

Kittypie070: what is Tumunga's ongoing obsession with balls and sucking thereof and such?

I've seen it before.


Don't hate me 'cause I'm beautiful.

yankeerev.files.wordpress.com
 
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