Rmoney: Unfounded claim about Obama
Media: Is it true about Obama?
Obama: Reality based claim about Rmoney
Media: Obama gave a speech today at a school.
Obama supporters: What about Obama's Romney comment?
Media: We gave both sides equal time you dirty communists!

Presidents are given a ton of media attention because they're, well, the president and they have a country to lead. But that doesn't mean THAT coverage is counted as their 50% fair share and the other candidate who spends all day criticizing their opponent because they themselves have nothing to do but run for office.

It's the unfounded claims that are driving me nuts.

Glenford
Exactly. Romey says whatever he pleases, changing positions from one day to the next. Meanwhile, Obama gets his jokes 'fact-checked'.

The private sector is doing fine...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That Barack Obama is such a kidder.

HairBolus "Telling the Truth" and "Using Facts" are liberal ideals.

Is that another one of The President's jokes that need to be fact checked?

Maddow and O'Donnell call him a liar several times a week and, as the article notes, Benen tracks Mitt for the Maddow show blog.

AirForceVet
Don't the Republicans possess any sense of honor and integrity?

Fark no. I'm surprised you have to ask.

rudemix: You can't even put the cock-smoker tenpoundsofstupid on ignore because people will not cease in quoting his trolly, thread derailing, idiotic bullshiat.

Speak for yourself. Ignore his ass, and look in your Fark settings for the two that ignore quotes of ignored users.

MFL: Glenford
Exactly. Romey says whatever he pleases, changing positions from one day to the next. Meanwhile, Obama gets his jokes 'fact-checked'.

The private sector is doing fine...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That Barack Obama is such a kidder.

Maybe NBC can edit some audio tapes to make Romney look racist to make subby feel better.

All hail Diogenes, slayer of beasts morans

All I can think of is the Maury Show. "Rmoney said President Obama was a penguin... and according to our test, THAT WAS A LIE" Audience -- "Oooooh" "Booooo" "Boooo".

GleeUnit: tenpoundsofcheese: Therion: tenpoundsofcheese: FlashHarry: romney's just so farking brazen about it. and the media NEVER calls him on any of it. it's incredibly frustrating. they've been in the tank for him from the get-go.

welcome to 2008.

were you as butt hurt back then too?

Yeah! Why didn't we ever hear anything about Obama's radical black separatist preacher or how he was pallin' around with terrorists? The Liberal Media was conspiring to put a Kenyan Socialist in charge!

Did you hear that spin from the LSM? Ooops. You didn't. You heard them making excuses.

You farking obnoxious, lying piece of shiat. I really don't want fark to turn into an echo chamber, but I've listened to your horseshiat for months and months now, and you never have anything to offer but pre-approved talking points and circular reasoning. I can get that just about anywhere.

Congratulations and welcome to the ignore list, you knuckle-dragging farktard.

/oh noes, ad hominem!!
//You've earned it, shiat stain.

Well said. +1

Looks like several posts have been removed because they advocated ignoring specific trolls who have the power to remove them and give the poster a timeout.

Maybe the Obama campaign should just start ringing the "Romney's a liar" bell. After all BLIZZARD OF LIES is really, really evocative and catchy. It's easier to just paint everything Romney says as a lie... hell, you'd be accurate more than half the time.

Bag of Hammers: Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.

I like the way you put that.

There is a shiat ton of butt-hurt in this thread.

Relax people. There are months and months to go, and you're acting like this is your introduction to politics, albeit from only one cozy perspective.

A lot of political figures lie, but Romney is remarkable for both how obviously false his lies are, and how much he doesn't care that people notice that he's lying.

AirForceVet The private sector is doing better than the government sector, i.e. note massive layoffs of teachers and other government service personnel across the nation, like here in Alabama.

The private sector has been going through this shiat for half a decade now!

Welcome to the party pal

That website has some awful colors to it. Also seems very balanced in its approach to its editorials news.

Nadie_AZ: ordinarysteve: Charlie Freak: Ratings.

Don't bother with the tin foil. I've heard it straight from the horse's mouth.

This is where I would normally make a Sarah Jessica Parker joke. I'm not really sure what you're referring to otherwise.

The one thing that has ever made me suspicious of conservatives-THEY LIE-. When the truth works better-THEY LIE-. Even when they are right (sometimes they are)-THEY LIE. Now Republicans are jumping on the lie your ass off bandwagon. This really sucks, because it is hard to give someone a vallid point, and they do have them, when it is accentuated, and accessorized by CRAP! When did things get so far out of balance in the Republican party?

I'm not really a fan of Romney and I think Obama is, at least by contrast, one of our more open and reasonable politicians.

That said, this is ridiculously unfair to Romney even for the internet. Rhetoric that's not 100% factually correct is not the same thing as lying, in US politics you're expected to be somewhat hyperbolic and emotional and Obama does it too. The media isn't "fact-checking" things like "Obama has no jobs plan" because only someone being intentionally obtuse would interpret that as "Obama's administration has literally put forward zero ideas regarding federal encouragement of hiring and employee retention" when it clearly means "In my opinion, this administrations efforts regarding employment have been insufficient".

This bullshiat is nonsense in the same vein as the media making a big deal over the "the private sector is fine" sound bite (from a larger speech outlining plans for aiding the private sector which make the meaning clear from context) and the "we don't need more teachers" sound-bite (in a similar speech making the actual meaning clear in context). I don't need the media to fact check jokes, hyperbole, and one-liners for me, because I'm at least slightly smarter than a doorknob and thus already know from context that that's what they are. All I need them to fact-check are actual specific claims presented as important, in-context details of plans of action. Because I need to know if the environmental impact assessments actually recommend delaying the construction of the trans-national oil pipeline project when we're considering investing lots of money in it, and I don't need to know whether the governor of NJ actually put exactly 10% of the legislature behind bars for corruption as AG when he's making a casual point about corruption in the state being a problem.

ordinarysteve: MFL: Glenford
Exactly. Romey says whatever he pleases, changing positions from one day to the next. Meanwhile, Obama gets his jokes 'fact-checked'.

The private sector is doing fine...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That Barack Obama is such a kidder.

[weknowmemes.com image 494x371]

How is that butthurt? Butthurt was the Fark liberals after the failed Walker recall. He is mentioning that Obama's retarded statement that the private sector is doing fine is not a joke. Although it clearly should have been. Unless you're referencing the butthurt the entire private sector has taken during the Obama presidency. Then you would be correct.

3_Butt_Cheeks: There is a shiat ton of butt-hurt in this thread.

Relax people. There are months and months to go, and you're acting like this is your introduction to politics, albeit from only one cozy perspective.

True, but if the Obama campaign waits to deal with a strategy to counteract Romney's unvetted lies, or worse, just waits to see if the media's going to do its job those months are going to be very tough.

TFA: right-leaning Politifact

Aaand, there goes your credibility out the window.

Garet Garrett: TFA: right-leaning Politifact

Aaand, there goes your credibility out the window.

True, it is the attempt at being fair and balanced when balance means artificially skewing things so both sides are the same that makes it seem they are right-leaning

Jjaro: Unless you're referencing the butthurt the entire private sector has taken during the Obama presidency.

This is what Republicans actually believe.

Don't worry, When President Romney is elected, will SLASH 1% of the budget and everything will be fine again! Also, he will stand up to China!

*snerk*

Jim_Callahan: I'm not really a fan of Romney and I think Obama is, at least by contrast, one of our more open and reasonable politicians.

That said, this is ridiculously unfair to Romney even for the internet. Rhetoric that's not 100% factually correct is not the same thing as lying, in US politics you're expected to be somewhat hyperbolic and emotional and Obama does it too. The media isn't "fact-checking" things like "Obama has no jobs plan" because only someone being intentionally obtuse would interpret that as "Obama's administration has literally put forward zero ideas regarding federal encouragement of hiring and employee retention" when it clearly means "In my opinion, this administrations efforts regarding employment have been insufficient".

When Obama has an actual coherent thing that's been specifically called a "Jobs Plan", saying that he has no jobs plan is in fact a lie. It's not hyperbole or stretching the truth, it's a lie.

You might have a point in other instances, but I stopped reading there. You picked a bad example.

Garet Garrett: TFA: right-leaning Politifact

Aaand, there goes your credibility out the window.

Seriously, Politifact isn't even right "leaning" anymore.

3_Butt_Cheeks: There is a shiat ton of butt-hurt in this thread.

Relax people. There are months and months to go, and you're acting like this is your introduction to politics, albeit from only one cozy perspective.

Reads to me like a bunch of people complaining that the fourth estate is completely broken. Probably because it is. Interspersed with a third-string, untalented hack of a threadshiatter that should come set by default on everyone's ignore list.

Jjaro: ordinarysteve: MFL: Glenford
Exactly. Romey says whatever he pleases, changing positions from one day to the next. Meanwhile, Obama gets his jokes 'fact-checked'.

The private sector is doing fine...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That Barack Obama is such a kidder.

[weknowmemes.com image 494x371]

How is that butthurt? Butthurt was the Fark liberals after the failed Walker recall. He is mentioning that Obama's retarded statement that the private sector is doing fine is not a joke. Although it clearly should have been. Unless you're referencing the butthurt the entire private sector has taken during the Obama presidency. Then you would be correct.

Except the joke that got fact checked was about Clooney getting 'shopped out of a photo, not the private sector comment. That has nothing to do with the current conversation, so yes, it falls under 'butthurt'.

Mercutio74: 3_Butt_Cheeks: There is a shiat ton of butt-hurt in this thread.

Relax people. There are months and months to go, and you're acting like this is your introduction to politics, albeit from only one cozy perspective.

True, but if the Obama campaign waits to deal with a strategy to counteract Romney's unvetted lies, or worse, just waits to see if the media's going to do its job those months are going to be very tough.

The opposite could be said as well. The only noteworthy thing here is some lame blog is getting its hit counter massaged today.

Sabyen91: Garet Garrett: TFA: right-leaning Politifact

Aaand, there goes your credibility out the window.

True, it is the attempt at being fair and balanced when balance means artificially skewing things so both sides are the same that makes it seem they are right-leaning

Hmm, let's review. Politifact rated Obama's SOTU statement as half true when he said that businesses had created x number of jobs during y period, when those numbers were accurate, claiming that it was misleading for him to attribute those jobs to his policies. Called on it, they upgraded the rating to mostly true.

Then, Romney claimed to have left Mass. with a 4.7% unemployment rate, which is accurate. Politifact rated it as half true, because it didn't account for generally lower unemployment nationwide (I'm not making this up - this is what passes for "fact checking"). Called on it, they -- you guessed it -- didn't change the rating.

Bilaterally flawed, yes. But bilaterally prejudiced? I don't think so.

Mitt Romney is what the Beltway press pretended Al Gore to be.

MFL: AirForceVet The private sector is doing better than the government sector, i.e. note massive layoffs of teachers and other government service personnel across the nation, like here in Alabama.

The private sector has been going through this shiat for half a decade now!

Welcome to the party pal

Things are so terrible in the private sector that the average CEO raise last year was only 36%! Are go0vgernbment employees getting by on meager raises like that?

HairBolus: "Telling the Truth" and "Using Facts" are liberal ideals.

I find it difficult to discuss politics with many partisan conservatives because I am handicapped by a need to make sense and avoid rhetoric/hyperbole/fallacy.

Mercutio74: 3_Butt_Cheeks: There is a shiat ton of butt-hurt in this thread.

Relax people. There are months and months to go, and you're acting like this is your introduction to politics, albeit from only one cozy perspective.

True, but if the Obama campaign waits to deal with a strategy to counteract Romney's unvetted lies, or worse, just waits to see if the media's going to do its job those months are going to be very tough.

I'd like to think that they're not foolish enough to believe the media is going to do its job.

Garet Garrett: Bilaterally flawed, yes. But bilaterally prejudiced? I don't think so.

Their "Lie of the Year" was the statement that "The Paul Ryan Plan would Destroy Medicare as we know it." Their rationale was that, although the Paul Ryan plan would destroy medicare as we know it, he still called it "Medicare" therefore the statement accurately describing the plan was the "Lie of the Year."

They stopped trying to even pretend to not cover for the GOP a looong time ago.

Jim_Callahan: That said, this is ridiculously unfair to Romney even for the internet. Rhetoric that's not 100% factually correct is not the same thing as lying,

When he says that a particular attorney general has determined that Obama is guilty of cronyism in supporting Sylindra, and no part of that is true, that's a big farking lie.

Republicans: They reject your reality and substitute their own.

Where is Spider Jerusalem when we need him...? Someone needs to speak the truth, even if no one else will.