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2012-06-13 10:06:45 AM
justified.maxupdates.tv
 
2012-06-13 10:08:14 AM
Let's visit the justifiable homicide suicide capital of America
 
2012-06-13 10:08:59 AM
And Willie's daddy wasn't even a judge.
 
2012-06-13 10:10:33 AM
Bronco Mosley took the bullet, while his accomplices, Seahawk Williams and Redskin Jones ran.

/Got nuthin', don't need nuthin'.
//Hey, man, nice shot.
 
2012-06-13 10:10:56 AM
Makes sense. After reading the top of the article, I sympathize with the house owner. He had previous problems and the police basically said "you're on your own." so he took care of it.

But hey, im sure detroit is much better off with small government. Get more bootstrappy.
 
2012-06-13 10:11:19 AM
Sounds like the police are ineffective, therefore you have to defend yourself. Sounds reasonable to me.
 
2012-06-13 10:15:14 AM
Every US citizen should have a firearm in their home for protection.

When someone breaks into your home, the police will get there just in time to take a picture of your families dead bodies.
 
2012-06-13 10:15:53 AM
It does show that a police presence makes a difference in reducing crime. But it also shows the importance of the 2nd Amendment; "When seconds count, the police are just minutes could be days away."

Good on him for defending his wife, himself, and his home. It the right of everyone to defend themselves if they're simply trying to live without being threatened.
 
2012-06-13 10:15:58 AM

Grapple: Sounds like the police are ineffective, therefore you have to defend yourself. Sounds reasonable to me.


Not necessarily ineffective, just not omnipresent (nor should they be). If they are first responders, then it falls to the would-be victim to be the zero responder.
 
2012-06-13 10:17:47 AM
Detriot, the new Gotham. All they need now is a Batman.
 
2012-06-13 10:17:50 AM
Lets get this out of the way
2.bp.blogspot.com
/justifiable hotlink
 
2012-06-13 10:18:28 AM
"Black people shouldn't own guns" refreshingly absent.
 
2012-06-13 10:18:51 AM
That's life in the big city.
 
2012-06-13 10:22:41 AM

paygun: "Black people shouldn't own guns" refreshingly absent.


An argument against Gun Control that is surprisingly lacking; the history of Gun Control in America is woven tightly with racism.
 
2012-06-13 10:22:53 AM
It sounds like Detroit is a libertarian's paradise.
 
2012-06-13 10:23:13 AM
How lucky I am. I have no fear of my neighborhood. To take advantage of the views the main living area of my home is almost entirely glass. I can't, and don't want to, imagine the fear of having my wife sick and people breaking my windows and knowing that there're coming for me.

How sad that it will haunt him; me, it wouldn't.
 
2012-06-13 10:23:56 AM
And all of this could have been avoided, if it weren't for right-wing southerners being too lazy to pick their own cotton. Whar bootstraps, whar?
 
2012-06-13 10:24:40 AM
It's time to move away from the welfare police service and transition to vigilante justice. Think of the tax savings.
 
2012-06-13 10:25:00 AM
Jaws_Victim: "But hey, im sure detroit is much better off with small government. Get more bootstrappy."

Yeah, if we're bringing back the robber barons, we might as well bring back the OK Corral.
That way people will *welcome* moving to the company towns under Pinkerton protection.
 
2012-06-13 10:26:00 AM
This article doesn't seem to square with Fark's big gun=little dick meme.
 
2012-06-13 10:26:14 AM
Unwelcome to Michigan.
 
2012-06-13 10:26:35 AM
FTFA: "an officer told him it could be days before someone showed up to take a report."

Absolutely insane.

Grapple: Sounds like the police are ineffective, therefore you have to defend yourself. Sounds reasonable to me.


This.
 
2012-06-13 10:26:57 AM

TIKIMAN87: Every US citizen should have a firearm in their home for protection.

When someone breaks into your home, the police will get there just in time to take a picture of your families dead bodies.


Yeah, especially the children. Load those farkers up!
 
2012-06-13 10:28:39 AM
media.avclub.com

White Kersey had worried they might come back. They'd broken a gate to his backyard the night before, and thrown rocks through two different windows. He'd called police, but an officer told him it could be days before someone showed up to take a report.
 
2012-06-13 10:29:57 AM

steerforth: Yeah, especially the children. Load those farkers up!


I'll agree that kids should be taught firearms safety, at the very least, at a young age. Visits to the gun range by the age of 12 aren't unusual, and my buddy's daughter was excited when she was finally able to go deer hunting at age 14. And it's much easier (and more effective) to gunsafe your kids than it is to kidsafe a gun. Still, I imagine that you meant that sarcastically, so I'll simply say...nah.
 
2012-06-13 10:32:19 AM

stevarooni: steerforth: Yeah, especially the children. Load those farkers up!

I'll agree that kids should be taught firearms safety, at the very least, at a young age. Visits to the gun range by the age of 12 aren't unusual, and my buddy's daughter was excited when she was finally able to go deer hunting at age 14. And it's much easier (and more effective) to gunsafe your kids than it is to kidsafe a gun. Still, I imagine that you meant that sarcastically, so I'll simply say...nah.


Your penis sounds large.
 
2012-06-13 10:35:44 AM
The linked article deserves the Hero tag, not Scary.
 
2012-06-13 10:38:56 AM
fta the 75-year-old retiree took the last shot of the night.

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-13 10:38:58 AM

steerforth: stevarooni: steerforth: Yeah, especially the children. Load those farkers up!

I'll agree that kids should be taught firearms safety, at the very least, at a young age. Visits to the gun range by the age of 12 aren't unusual, and my buddy's daughter was excited when she was finally able to go deer hunting at age 14. And it's much easier (and more effective) to gunsafe your kids than it is to kidsafe a gun. Still, I imagine that you meant that sarcastically, so I'll simply say...nah.

Your penis sounds large.


Yours sounds small.
 
2012-06-13 10:41:11 AM
Seems like a clear case of self-defense. I have no issue with this. I hope the old guy is able to get on with his life.
 
2012-06-13 10:41:22 AM

Millennium: Grapple: Sounds like the police are ineffective, therefore you have to defend yourself. Sounds reasonable to me.

Not necessarily ineffective, just not omnipresent (nor should they be). If they are first responders, then it falls to the would-be victim to be the zero responder.


Indeed. Realistically, no matter how well-staffed a police department is, if someone breaks into your house with the intention of doing you harm, the police probably aren't going to get there in time to protect you. To the extent that the police reduce crime, it's mostly by catching bad guys and deterring it rather than by interrupting individual instances of it before harm is done. Somewhat analogously, the main purpose of the fire department is to keep fires from spreading, rather than to save your particular house when it's engulfed in flames. Having some means of protecting yourself (not necessarily a gun, I guess) is basically the same kind of precaution as having a fire extinguisher in the sense that both the police and the fire department serve the public in kind of a diffuse way, not by taking care of your individual problems.
 
2012-06-13 10:41:46 AM

steerforth: Your penis sounds large.


More massive than a Tater-Tot1, I assure you! I'd show you, but I have to be at the gym in 26 minutes to wax Biff's car again. He says I didn't do a great job last time.

1 - This claim valid in the 48 contiguous states and Guam. This claim assumes standard Ore-Ida Tater Tot sizing, not to include Giant or Potato Explosion varieties.
 
2012-06-13 10:44:19 AM
can we just wall off the city "Escape from New York" style and be done with it?
 
2012-06-13 10:46:11 AM

Mr.Tangent: It's time to move away from the welfare police service and transition to vigilante justice. Think of the tax savings.


Yeah, but I still need the gubmint to clear the bodies before they pile up too high, I don't want a corpse berm providing cover for the next volley. Damn sure I'm not renting a backhoe on my own dime, and I doubt burglars have a enough cash on them to even cover their disposal in a rental wood chipper.


/now that I mention it, recycling burglars for a greener tomorrow... the idea is growing on me, gotta be careful about getting to much lead shot in the vegetable garden though.
 
2012-06-13 10:47:34 AM
Detroit is well umh Detroit. I've been mugged twice and been carrying both times. I opted not to draw since I was facing multiple hostiles, most of whom were visibly carrying. The shootout wasn't worth the cash in my wallet. In Detroit if you pull a Glock, they just laugh at you and pull an AK. If you pull an AK, they go to the trunk and get a RPG. Better just to carry to carry a sacrificial wallet and handle it over. The gun is more for the off chance some crazy coke head assaults you or the like. Then it is worth pulling the weapon, but not over muggings which tend to be strictly business.

As the cops pull back from some neighborhoods the residents are forming what are basically militias. Neighborhood watch doesn't full describe what they do or the level of heat they pack. It will be interesting (and likely not in a good way) to see where this ends.
 
2012-06-13 10:50:29 AM

Jaws_Victim: Makes sense. After reading the top of the article, I sympathize with the house owner. He had previous problems and the police basically said "you're on your own." so he took care of it.

But hey, im sure detroit is much better off with small government. Get more bootstrappy.


A real bootstrappy person would start a donut shop in their home, and lure cops in with their intoxicating scent.

"I'm having problems with break-ins. Also, donuts."
 
2012-06-13 10:53:43 AM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: steerforth: stevarooni: steerforth: Yeah, especially the children. Load those farkers up!

I'll agree that kids should be taught firearms safety, at the very least, at a young age. Visits to the gun range by the age of 12 aren't unusual, and my buddy's daughter was excited when she was finally able to go deer hunting at age 14. And it's much easier (and more effective) to gunsafe your kids than it is to kidsafe a gun. Still, I imagine that you meant that sarcastically, so I'll simply say...nah.

Your penis sounds large.

Yours sounds small.


You guys are too easy.

/I have a vagina and it's HUGE!
// I still need you to protect me from all of the big scary monsters out there, don't I, snookums?
 
2012-06-13 10:56:34 AM

stevarooni: It does show that a police presence makes a difference in reducing crime.


Well, then Detroit is farked, because the city is bankrupt and about to lay off thousands of cops.

/of course, the fact that Detroit is farked has been obvious since around the time the Beatles broke up
 
2012-06-13 11:00:51 AM

ha-ha-guy: Detroit is well umh Detroit. I've been mugged twice and been carrying both times. I opted not to draw since I was facing multiple hostiles, most of whom were visibly carrying. The shootout wasn't worth the cash in my wallet. In Detroit if you pull a Glock, they just laugh at you and pull an AK. If you pull an AK, they go to the trunk and get a RPG. Better just to carry to carry a sacrificial wallet and handle it over. The gun is more for the off chance some crazy coke head assaults you or the like. Then it is worth pulling the weapon, but not over muggings which tend to be strictly business.

.


Sounds like how i used to feel about living in Baltimore. But then I realized i didn't *HAVE* to live in Baltimore...
 
2012-06-13 11:00:54 AM

Geotpf: stevarooni: It does show that a police presence makes a difference in reducing crime.

Well, then Detroit is farked, because the city is bankrupt and about to lay off thousands of cops.

/of course, the fact that Detroit is farked has been obvious since around the time the Beatles broke up


They claim it's a coincidence, but I'm onto you, Ringo, and your city-destroying ways.
 
2012-06-13 11:01:02 AM

stevarooni: It does show that a police presence makes a difference in reducing crime.


Geotpf: Well, then Detroit is farked, because the city is bankrupt and about to lay off thousands of cops.


That's not going to be good for the city, no. Lots of lawlessness among those who know that there just aren't cops to keep the barbarians at bay. Hopefully folks will be able to protect themselves, or possibly make an exit if things get too bad. My understanding is that Detroit is farked because the economy there is farked; lots more people there than can make a legitimate living, so things get all muggy.
 
2012-06-13 11:01:29 AM

ha-ha-guy: Detroit is well umh Detroit. I've been mugged twice and been carrying both times. I opted not to draw since I was facing multiple hostiles, most of whom were visibly carrying. The shootout wasn't worth the cash in my wallet. In Detroit if you pull a Glock, they just laugh at you and pull an AK. If you pull an AK, they go to the trunk and get a RPG. Better just to carry to carry a sacrificial wallet and handle it over. The gun is more for the off chance some crazy coke head assaults you or the like. Then it is worth pulling the weapon, but not over muggings which tend to be strictly business.

As the cops pull back from some neighborhoods the residents are forming what are basically militias. Neighborhood watch doesn't full describe what they do or the level of heat they pack. It will be interesting (and likely not in a good way) to see where this ends.


You sound hot.
 
2012-06-13 11:02:51 AM
I feel for the guy, first when he asks for help he's told it could take days for the cops to come help him. He's got a sick wife and the thought that something bad is going to happen. Then when it does he has to take someone's life. Even in self defense, that's hard to live with.
 
2012-06-13 11:04:41 AM

ha-ha-guy: Detroit is well umh Detroit. I've been mugged twice and been carrying both times. I opted not to draw since I was facing multiple hostiles, most of whom were visibly carrying. The shootout wasn't worth the cash in my wallet. In Detroit if you pull a Glock, they just laugh at you and pull an AK. If you pull an AK, they go to the trunk and get a RPG. Better just to carry to carry a sacrificial wallet and handle it over. The gun is more for the off chance some crazy coke head assaults you or the like. Then it is worth pulling the weapon, but not over muggings which tend to be strictly business.

As the cops pull back from some neighborhoods the residents are forming what are basically militias. Neighborhood watch doesn't full describe what they do or the level of heat they pack. It will be interesting (and likely not in a good way) to see where this ends.


Should have just shot them in the back.

Actually, good for you for making a rational choice while carrying. My dad had that happen, was being surrounded by a large group of guys who were probably armed to. Decided flight was way better than fight.
 
2012-06-13 11:05:26 AM
Came for OCP/Robocop references, leaving disappointed.
 
2012-06-13 11:18:30 AM
After you chase them down, you're supposed to "Stand your Ground" before you kill them.
 
2012-06-13 11:21:36 AM

Ebenator: Let's visit the justifiable homicide suicide capital of America


Vegas?
 
2012-06-13 11:29:07 AM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: steerforth: stevarooni: steerforth: Yeah, especially the children. Load those farkers up!

I'll agree that kids should be taught firearms safety, at the very least, at a young age. Visits to the gun range by the age of 12 aren't unusual, and my buddy's daughter was excited when she was finally able to go deer hunting at age 14. And it's much easier (and more effective) to gunsafe your kids than it is to kidsafe a gun. Still, I imagine that you meant that sarcastically, so I'll simply say...nah.

Your penis sounds large.

Yours sounds small.


Get a farking room
 
2012-06-13 11:39:57 AM
If the rats are loose, shooting rats is justifiable

IMO, the people who turned Detroit from one of the world's most vibrant, alive cities into a hell hole of despair and killin are the ones need'n a good killin.

That would be, in order -

1. Democrats
2. Unions

But then, I repeat myself ...
 
2012-06-13 11:40:51 AM

TIKIMAN87: Every US citizen should have a firearm in their home for protection.

When someone breaks into your home, the police will get there just in time to take a picture of your families dead bodies.


When seconds count, the police are only minutes away!

/Has guns
//Kids were taught about gun safety early on
///In other words, turn the safety off
 
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