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(New York Daily News)   NYC high school students learn that entrusting their cell phones to the care of safe mobile storage trucks outside their schools isn't as safe as they thought   (nydailynews.com) divider line 114
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2012-06-13 09:18:04 AM
Damn kids shouldn't have cell phones anyway.

/my lawn, get off it
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-06-13 09:26:00 AM
Columbus sophomore Jazz Jones, 15, was furious her Blackberry Curve was lifted.

I don't think of 15 year olds as having BlackBerries. Curves, yes. BlackBerries, no.
 
2012-06-13 09:31:33 AM
If only there existed some way to track these devices using GPS signals.
 
2012-06-13 09:35:18 AM
So the company running these 'Safe mobile storage' trucks isn't responsible for replacing the stolen phones? Kinda negates the whole 'safe' thing.
 
2012-06-13 09:37:01 AM
I'm confused.

I thought that a thief really couldn't use the phones since they are tied to another number... a little help here?
 
2012-06-13 09:50:17 AM

AqueousBoy: Damn kids shouldn't have cell phones anyway.

/my lawn, get off it


I've wondered about this actually- at what age do kids usually get cell phones these days anyway? Not like there's a land line at home your friends can call most likely.
 
2012-06-13 09:55:24 AM
How could I call my mom and say, 'Mom, I'm being robbed!' if I don't have a cell phone?

This is how dumb teenagers are getting.
 
2012-06-13 10:14:54 AM

Andromeda: AqueousBoy: Damn kids shouldn't have cell phones anyway.

/my lawn, get off it

I've wondered about this actually- at what age do kids usually get cell phones these days anyway? Not like there's a land line at home your friends can call most likely.


Well, AqueousBoy Jr. is only 7 months old, but my plan is to let him get a cell phone when he can pay for it himself.
 
2012-06-13 10:20:41 AM

Andromeda: I've wondered about this actually- at what age do kids usually get cell phones these days anyway?


My son is 11 and some of his friends have phones -- usually hand me downs. At this point, we see no need to get him one but I can see it coming in a few years as he gets into more activities (amazing how few public phones are left for kids to call home for a pickup)
 
2012-06-13 10:24:56 AM
the school bans phones, so the kids have to pay $1 a day to store them safely? What happened to the schools storing the phones for the students inside the schools for free? Just put them all in a box and lock them in a safe or something until the end of the day.
 
2012-06-13 10:26:45 AM

jaylectricity: How could I call my mom and say, 'Mom, I'm being robbed!' if I don't have a cell phone?

This is how dumb teenagers are getting.


Yeah, if you take your cell to school, then someone robs you of it, how exactly is it easier to call your mom versus not taking the cell to school in the first place? Are armed robbers storming your science class?
 
2012-06-13 11:01:33 AM
How much are those kids paying for storage that buying (even used) a box truck & retrofitting it like they did is even a possibility? And quit parking in front of the hydrant....

A local store owner should have offered such a service or as Sloth said, if the school wants to ban them during school then let the office hold them. Dumb law to begin with

/my youngest was 13 when we dumped the land line. We got her added to the family cell plan for only the cost of a new phone (no additional line charge surprisingly). If it wasn't for that though she wouldn't have one yet.
 
2012-06-13 11:32:13 AM
Cell phones were less popular when I was in high school but plenty of us had them. If we were using it, they asked us to put it away. If the person continued using it or if it rang in class, they took it until the end of the day. It worked fine because they expected us to act reasonably like adults, and most of us did. When you treat people like infants, they live up to those expectations.
 
2012-06-13 11:54:43 AM
Why would you commit armed robbery for a bunch of used cell phones?
 
2012-06-13 11:55:45 AM
NYC problems.
 
2012-06-13 11:57:38 AM
These kids got what they deserved. Pay someone money to hold onto your phone? PFFF! Silent mode, into backpack. Problem solved.
 
2012-06-13 11:58:01 AM

itsdan: Cell phones were less popular when I was in high school but plenty of us had them. If we were using it, they asked us to put it away. If the person continued using it or if it rang in class, they took it until the end of the day. It worked fine because they expected us to act reasonably like adults, and most of us did. When you treat people like infants, they live up to those expectations.


It's almost as if you turn off your phone (or put it on silent) and don't use it during the school day, not only will nobody know you have it, but you can bring it to school in your bag or pocket, and it won't get stolen! Amazing!
 
2012-06-13 11:58:07 AM

Recoil Therapy: A local store owner should have offered such a service or as Sloth said, if the school wants to ban them during school then let the office hold them. Dumb law to begin with

/my youngest was 13 when we dumped the land line. We got her added to the family cell plan for only the cost of a new phone (no additional line charge surprisingly). If it wasn't for that though she wouldn't have one yet.


How about, cellphone off before you enter the building and it stays off at all times or we confiscate it for the semester. A couple kids would lose their phones and the rest would get the message. At the rate phones get obsolete, losing one for a term would hurt.

Banning phones is stupid. Some of the first 911 calls due to Columbine came from kids on their cellphones. Same with VT (although that's a college, not a HS). Off and out of sight is a reasonable enough rule. The kid can decide if they keep it in their locker or on their person.
 
2012-06-13 11:58:39 AM
how about they just join the 21st century and allow the students to have their phones with them. if they use it during class, write them up. if they use it during lunch, leave them alone as that's their time.

I think half the reason high schools are such a disaster is that they pull stuff like this. Start shifting the rules to more closely resemble universities and not prisons, and you may see improvements.
 
2012-06-13 11:58:41 AM

Hand Banana: Why would you commit armed robbery for a bunch of used cell phones?


The data on them.
 
2012-06-13 11:58:45 AM

AqueousBoy: Damn kids shouldn't have cell phones anyway.

/my lawn, get off it


We need to stop thinking of them as phones. They're computers that can make phone calls.
 
2012-06-13 11:59:05 AM
I can't believe that these people are able to run a business like this and not have insurance against this sort of thing. It's no different than being a contractor to say, paint houses... You need insurance in case something goes wrong.

If you are responsible for other people's property, you certainly should be insured in case it gets stolen or damaged.

It's really a shame that these kids have to to pay the price for that oversight.
 
2012-06-13 11:59:37 AM

Grables'Daughter: I'm confused.

I thought that a thief really couldn't use the phones since they are tied to another number... a little help here?


Depends on the Carrier. ATT for example uses SIM cards so all you have to do is dump the SIM card and put in a new one works just Fine.

/Has ATT
//ATT SUCKS!
 
2012-06-13 12:00:19 PM

Honest Bender: These kids got what they deserved. Pay someone money to hold onto your phone? PFFF! Silent mode, into backpack. Problem solved.


That isn't why the ban is in place. It's because they set off the metal detectors, and it wastes too much time trying to get everyone in the building.

If anything, they should leave the damn things home.
 
2012-06-13 12:00:54 PM

SlothB77: jaylectricity: How could I call my mom and say, 'Mom, I'm being robbed!' if I don't have a cell phone?

This is how dumb teenagers are getting.

Yeah, if you take your cell to school, then someone robs you of it, how exactly is it easier to call your mom versus not taking the cell to school in the first place? Are armed robbers storming your science class?


Well yeah, happens all the time.

You must have gone to private school.
 
2012-06-13 12:01:07 PM
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Are they gone yet? Is it safe to come out now?
 
2012-06-13 12:01:37 PM
And in the Bronx you can park in front of a hydrant too.
assets.nydailynews.com
 
2012-06-13 12:02:49 PM

Andromeda: I've wondered about this actually- at what age do kids usually get cell phones these days anyway? Not like there's a land line at home your friends can call most likely.


CAADbury Jr. is getting one as soon as (s)he gets a license. Possibly sooner if we can limit who can call the phone and who can be called from the phone.
 
2012-06-13 12:03:57 PM

Glenford: AqueousBoy: Damn kids shouldn't have cell phones anyway.

/my lawn, get off it

We need to stop thinking of them as phones. They're computers that can make phone calls.


What the school really likely fears are the microphones and cameras on them. In part because some of the kids would try to snag photos from the girl's locker room. Also in part because some humiliating videos of the school's incompetent teacher might hit Youtube. I did my high school time long before cellphones and we had a principal who loved to blatantly check out the girls. In this day and age the school would end up with video proof he was a pervert and an ugly lawsuit on their hands. Back then it was our word against his.

/one guy punched the principal after the principal put a han don his girlfriend's ass
//principal of course denies the who hand thing and runs the kid for assault
/the principal left after three years due to a steady stream of vandalism that was directed at his personal property
 
2012-06-13 12:04:34 PM

grinding_journalist: It's almost as if you turn off your phone (or put it on silent) and don't use it during the school day, not only will nobody know you have it, but you can bring it to school in your bag or pocket, and it won't get stolen! Amazing!


Nope. This is what school entrances look like nowadays:
cache.boston.com
 
2012-06-13 12:06:28 PM

Andromeda: AqueousBoy: Damn kids shouldn't have cell phones anyway.

/my lawn, get off it

I've wondered about this actually- at what age do kids usually get cell phones these days anyway? Not like there's a land line at home your friends can call most likely.


18 for me, and not until I was off at school for a semester.
 
2012-06-13 12:08:16 PM

jaylectricity: How could I call my mom and say, 'Mom, I'm being robbed!' if I don't have a cell phone?

This is how dumb teenagers are getting.


I agree. I was also thinking, How could I call my mom and say, 'Mom, I'm being robbed crushed in a horrific car accident!' if I don't have a cell phone?
 
2012-06-13 12:10:05 PM

Andromeda: AqueousBoy: Damn kids shouldn't have cell phones anyway.

/my lawn, get off it

I've wondered about this actually- at what age do kids usually get cell phones these days anyway? Not like there's a land line at home your friends can call most likely.


It was in 2001, but I got my first at 15. The tipping point was actually 9/11, since I had family that was there (though thankfully ok) and my parents didn't like that they couldn't get in touch with me. I was one of the last ones I knew to get it too. I'd imagine they go a bit younger now.

In my school they let you carry your phone, you just couldn't use it during class. There was never a major problem. Though my school didn't have metal detectors.
 
2012-06-13 12:10:10 PM

CAADbury: Andromeda: I've wondered about this actually- at what age do kids usually get cell phones these days anyway? Not like there's a land line at home your friends can call most likely.

CAADbury Jr. is getting one as soon as (s)he gets a license. Possibly sooner if we can limit who can call the phone and who can be called from the phone.


I really want a phone company to make one that doesn't support texting. Or uses the GPS to figure out if you're going over the speed a human walks at and locks out everything but 911. All my teenagers have crappy flip phones with no data and limited texting ability in an attempt to limit bad decisions regarding phone usage. I still want them to have a phone so they can call me in an emergency.

/my mother always used to give me quarters before I went out, for the payphone
//those are long gone though, so I have to give out cellphones
 
2012-06-13 12:10:39 PM
"
Can you WAIT a minute!!!??


......

Hi, mom?
I'm being robbed.
"
 
2012-06-13 12:12:47 PM

CAADbury: grinding_journalist: It's almost as if you turn off your phone (or put it on silent) and don't use it during the school day, not only will nobody know you have it, but you can bring it to school in your bag or pocket, and it won't get stolen! Amazing!

Nope. This is what school entrances look like nowadays:
[cache.boston.com image 410x274]


Wait is this for real? Like...I'm not joking is this serious?

Finished HS in 2003, never had anything like that.
 
2012-06-13 12:13:27 PM

Drakin020: CAADbury: grinding_journalist: It's almost as if you turn off your phone (or put it on silent) and don't use it during the school day, not only will nobody know you have it, but you can bring it to school in your bag or pocket, and it won't get stolen! Amazing!

Nope. This is what school entrances look like nowadays:
[cache.boston.com image 410x274]

Wait is this for real? Like...I'm not joking is this serious?

Finished HS in 2003, never had anything like that.


In some places. Not everywhere.
 
2012-06-13 12:13:32 PM
How DID I survive high school without a cell phone?

*excuse me while I adjust this onion on my belt*
 
2012-06-13 12:14:38 PM

damageddude: Andromeda: I've wondered about this actually- at what age do kids usually get cell phones these days anyway?

My son is 11 and some of his friends have phones -- usually hand me downs. At this point, we see no need to get him one but I can see it coming in a few years as he gets into more activities (amazing how few public phones are left for kids to call home for a pickup)


If at least one of his friends has a phone, he doesn't need one to call for a pickup.

We'll see how things change in the coming years, but my current thinking is that my household should perhaps have an extra shared phone, tied to either my account or my wife's. If the kids need a phone for a particular reason and one is unlikely to be available where they're going, they can borrow the shared one temporarily.
 
2012-06-13 12:15:22 PM

durbnpoisn: Honest Bender: These kids got what they deserved. Pay someone money to hold onto your phone? PFFF! Silent mode, into backpack. Problem solved.

That isn't why the ban is in place. It's because they set off the metal detectors, and it wastes too much time trying to get everyone in the building.

If anything, they should leave the damn things home.


I can see how my post may have confused you. When I said, "This is why the ban is in place..." oh wait, I didn't say anything about a ban. WTF does your comment have to do with mine?
 
2012-06-13 12:15:44 PM

Andromeda:
I've wondered about this actually- at what age do kids usually get cell phones these days anyway? Not like there's a land line at home your friends can call most likely.


My son just turned 10, and for the last 6 months we've been having him slip an old pay as you go phone in his pocket when he goes out into the neighborhood with friends. It's a Motorola Razr so he doesn't even know it's there, and only uses it if he's going somewhere unusual.

And most families still have land lines. I suspect the whole "cell phone only household" phenomenon is largely contained within the childless, highrise couple households.
 
2012-06-13 12:16:14 PM
A dollar a day to store the phone? The school could probably pay for an after school program or two if they were the ones offering the service. Plus kids would likely be more willing to pay and hand over the phone if they knew the profits were going to school dances.
 
2012-06-13 12:16:28 PM

Andromeda: AqueousBoy: Damn kids shouldn't have cell phones anyway.

/my lawn, get off it

I've wondered about this actually- at what age do kids usually get cell phones these days anyway? Not like there's a land line at home your friends can call most likely.


Jr. High is the line for my kids.
 
2012-06-13 12:16:43 PM
Pure genius,
1) park truck outside school.
2) charge money to store cell phones.
3) have all day to read texts, emails, check mms's.
4) Profit x2 blackmailing kids by threatening to let their parents know what they're really up to.
5) Bonus arrest by pedobear
 
2012-06-13 12:17:52 PM

Honest Bender: durbnpoisn: Honest Bender: These kids got what they deserved. Pay someone money to hold onto your phone? PFFF! Silent mode, into backpack. Problem solved.

That isn't why the ban is in place. It's because they set off the metal detectors, and it wastes too much time trying to get everyone in the building.

If anything, they should leave the damn things home.

I can see how my post may have confused you. When I said, "This is why the ban is in place..." oh wait, I didn't say anything about a ban. WTF does your comment have to do with mine?


Because carrying your phone in your backpack still sets off the metal detector. So your plan wouldn't work in this case.
 
2012-06-13 12:17:59 PM

FreakinB: Drakin020: CAADbury: grinding_journalist: It's almost as if you turn off your phone (or put it on silent) and don't use it during the school day, not only will nobody know you have it, but you can bring it to school in your bag or pocket, and it won't get stolen! Amazing!

Nope. This is what school entrances look like nowadays:
[cache.boston.com image 410x274]

Wait is this for real? Like...I'm not joking is this serious?

Finished HS in 2003, never had anything like that.

In some places. Not everywhere.


I mean, I could see it in areas with a high black community or something. Or the "Rougher" part of areas where crime is high. But not everywhere.
 
2012-06-13 12:18:57 PM

Grables'Daughter: I'm confused.

I thought that a thief really couldn't use the phones since they are tied to another number... a little help here?


This isn't entirely true, GD. There are some uses for stolen phones. First of all, a thief can salvage a used phone for parts, especially on more common models, and sell those parts to people looking to refurbish phones. Also, it wouldn't be terribly difficult to offload a phone on the street to some moron ("I'll sell you this brand new *insert popular phone model here* for $50"). Besides those two methods which can make money, a stolen phone could be used pretty effectively as a "burner" phone, or in other words a phone used for communicating sensitive illegal activity related information for a short period of time and then tossing it.

Aside from all of those things, though, you can potentially find OC porn on stolen phones, especially phones owned by women. Yes, I realize that is incredibly stereotypical, but it is also my experience that a majority of younger women cannot help but take pictures of their breasts and other parts to share with the world. Of course, in this case, it's likely to be the kind of stuff that would get you v&.

/I wonder if being caught with a phone stolen from a pre-18 year old that has nudes on it would actually get you a possession of child pornography charge
 
2012-06-13 12:19:17 PM

animal900:

And most families still have land lines. I suspect the whole "cell phone only household" phenomenon is largely contained within the childless, highrise couple households.


I know a lot of families that don't have landlines anymore. We'd get rid of ours if we didn't need it for the security system.
 
2012-06-13 12:19:36 PM
I'm guessing that company's business will be dead tomorrow.
 
2012-06-13 12:19:45 PM

Honest Bender: durbnpoisn: Honest Bender: These kids got what they deserved. Pay someone money to hold onto your phone? PFFF! Silent mode, into backpack. Problem solved.

That isn't why the ban is in place. It's because they set off the metal detectors, and it wastes too much time trying to get everyone in the building.

If anything, they should leave the damn things home.

I can see how my post may have confused you. When I said, "This is why the ban is in place..." oh wait, I didn't say anything about a ban. WTF does your comment have to do with mine?


Because your post implied that the ban was in place because they are a distraction in the classroom. He is saying that the ban is in place because the phones slow down the lines of students going through the metal detectors, even in a bag. Got it?
 
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