Saw that coming.

I read that as physics. Nothing like a misread headline to make your blood boil...

I knew they'd do this.

Can't fault the police on this one. They had no way of knowing if the guy had committed dozens of murders, buried the bodies on the ranch and then came in with a 'psychic vision'. They *have* to follow up these claims because there's a chance it's a real crime.

But I think they should punish the claimed psychic the same way they would punish anyone that files a false accusation.

This is only one of many false psychic tips given to police

As opposed to real psychic tips?

FTA: Whether a tip comes from an ordinary citizen, an anonymous informant, or a self-proclaimed psychic, information about mass murders cannot be ignored.

Again, they keep using self-proclaimed psychics. When will they ever learn to use psychics with credentials.

So...the word of a "psychic" is now probable cause to search personal property?

I must have missed that memo.

But what are Shawn and MC Clap Yo Handz going to do now?

Come on guys, don't be the ribs that flipped over Fred Flintstone's car.

This is what happens to people who don't buy my truth-rock.
It will prevent psychics from giving false readings in its presence.

A must-have for anyone duty-bound to pursue the truth.

Sleazy_as_Pie: I read that as physics. Nothing like a misread headline to make your blood boil...

I read the same thing, except I wouldn't have been surprised a bit...

WhippingBoy: Mugato: 1) Call in phony psychic reading about murders on your ranch

As opposed to a "real" psychic reading?

"Sincere" and "insincere" might be better choices. Some psychics honestly believe in what they are doing, and while they have no better chance of being right than an insincere psychic would, they are not acting with malicious intent. Phoning in a reading you know to be false would be an insincere example, which is certainly malicious.

A very easy way to see if something is worth following up:

Question 1: Did you see this happening in a revelation/vision and/or dream?
Question 2: If yes, Wtf are you smoking? If no: What is the address?

Anyone with better photoshop skills than me up for turning this into a Summon PsiChick?

Mugato: 3) Prophet

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [www.usanetwork.com image 300x440]
Come on guys, don't be the ribs that flipped over Fred Flintstone's car.

Bravo, that was awesome.

Miss Cleo me yet?

The best 'psychic' had to be the guy on the Travel Channel Ghost show, can't remember the name of it, but he was always talking to a guy named Sam. They don't always act that good.

Officer: So, how did you come by this information?
Informant: I'm a psychic.
Officer: Okay. So, how many lotteries have you won?
Informant: Uh...None.
Officer: You're under arrest for obstruction of justice.

CSS

My grandmother in law claims to be a psychic (as does my Mother in law and her sisters) and claims to work for "the SVU" in the town she lives in. They all seem to have quite miraculous powers of telling you they KNEW something was going to happen.... Right after it actually happens.

/predictions my MIL made in may '11 that were due by Jan '12 include milk being over 12 bucks a gallon and the Midwest having a gigantic earthquake.

Maybe the police force there has a curse put on them by a bad cop from the department's ancestry.

clovercat: FTA: Whether a tip comes from an ordinary citizen, an anonymous informant, or a self-proclaimed psychic, information about mass murders cannot be ignored.

Again, they keep using self-proclaimed psychics. When will they ever learn to use psychics with credentials.

Where can we get credentials? I tried the cereal box.

WhippingBoy: clovercat: FTA: Whether a tip comes from an ordinary citizen, an anonymous informant, or a self-proclaimed psychic, information about mass murders cannot be ignored.

Again, they keep using self-proclaimed psychics. When will they ever learn to use psychics with credentials.

The only "credential" a psychic would have is "certified insane".

From Bob Jones University

How is this probable cause for a search warrant?
Anyone can claim to be a psychic so I guess the cops can
now search anyone and anything by claiming the officer
has psychic powers and saw drugs in the car or whatever,
or maybe police departments can hire psychics and tell them to
have visions about places they want to search.

It's a retarded civilization indeed where police act based on "magic".

Inflatable Rhetoric: Where can we get credentials? I tried the cereal box.

What you need are certain womens' magazines from the 1970's. Usually small format.

ace in your face: /predictions my MIL made in may '11 that were due by Jan '12 include milk being over 12 bucks a gallon and the Midwest having a gigantic earthquake.

Milk does run up to and over 12 bucks a gallon in Nunavut, apparently. I'd be careful if I were you.

Where's the hero tag?

Goddamn it is moronic that police still, in this day and age, use psychics.

Mugato: Millennium: WhippingBoy: Mugato: 1) Call in phony psychic reading about murders on your ranch

As opposed to a "real" psychic reading?

"Sincere" and "insincere" might be better choices. Some psychics honestly believe in what they are doing, and while they have no better chance of being right than an insincere psychic would, they are not acting with malicious intent. Phoning in a reading you know to be false would be an insincere example, which is certainly malicious.

Yeah, that's more like what I meant. Of course there's no such thing as psychics but people can be delusional.

Anyway, speaking of Psych....

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/yum

*drules*

B-b-b-b-but Patrick Jane!

WhippingBoy: clovercat: FTA: Whether a tip comes from an ordinary citizen, an anonymous informant, or a self-proclaimed psychic, information about mass murders cannot be ignored.

Again, they keep using self-proclaimed psychics. When will they ever learn to use psychics with credentials.

The only "credential" a psychic would have is "certified insane".

I know someone that does this for police departments nationally - she's very surprising at times. Being of an engineering/physics sort of background, I like her but consider her a bit daft, however, she has quite often surprised me with WTF moments of stunning perspicacity. She also looks just like Tangina Barrons, which is cool.

I can see why they use her in investigations, but I still can't believe it's really 'psychic powers'.

ThoughtSpy: Can't fault the police on this one. They had no way of knowing if the guy had committed dozens of murders, buried the bodies on the ranch and then came in with a 'psychic vision'. They *have* to follow up these claims because there's a chance it's a real crime.

I came here to say the same thing. There are people out there who aren't quite right in the head, who might do something bad and then come to the police with some crazy story. Instead of killing a bunch of people themselves, they just saw a "vision" of it. Or maybe a person witnesses something in person, but calls it in as a vision to distance themselves. The risk is that if the cops ignore a tip because it sounds nutty, they might miss a real crime.

Now, if cops ever seek out psychics in their attempts to solve crimes, that I have a problem with. That's a whole different kettle of fish, because then they're clearly putting stock in nonsense.

Inflatable Rhetoric: clovercat: FTA: Whether a tip comes from an ordinary citizen, an anonymous informant, or a self-proclaimed psychic, information about mass murders cannot be ignored.

Again, they keep using self-proclaimed psychics. When will they ever learn to use psychics with credentials.

Where can we get credentials? I tried the cereal box.

JREF

To unequivocally state that there is no such thing as psychic phenomena is tantamount to saying there is no "God". Now, what say you?

Zendo: It's a retarded civilization indeed where police act based on "magic".

When police believe psychics, they believe in magic.
When they believe in magic, they believe in witches
When they believe in witches they ask for laws to prosecute them
When they prosecute people for witchcraft they are like Saudi Arabia.
Don't let your police be like Saudi Arabia.

Andulamb: ThoughtSpy: Can't fault the police on this one. They had no way of knowing if the guy had committed dozens of murders, buried the bodies on the ranch and then came in with a 'psychic vision'. They *have* to follow up these claims because there's a chance it's a real crime.

I came here to say the same thing. There are people out there who aren't quite right in the head, who might do something bad and then come to the police with some crazy story. Instead of killing a bunch of people themselves, they just saw a "vision" of it. Or maybe a person witnesses something in person, but calls it in as a vision to distance themselves. The risk is that if the cops ignore a tip because it sounds nutty, they might miss a real crime.

Now, if cops ever seek out psychics in their attempts to solve crimes, that I have a problem with. That's a whole different kettle of fish, because then they're clearly putting stock in nonsense.

True. Those who claim a source of information that has no discernable means of transmission is silly, but I'd be willing to concede that there are those with a sort of intuition, similar to the way you can put together disparate clues while dreaming to solve a problem (like the intuition of the structure of the benzene ring), but as far as I've seen, anyone calling themselves "psychic" and working with police, have always been embarrassingly, totally wrong.

proteus_b: ace in your face: /predictions my MIL made in may '11 that were due by Jan '12 include milk being over 12 bucks a gallon and the Midwest having a gigantic earthquake.

Milk does run up to and over 12 bucks a gallon in Nunavut, apparently. I'd be careful if I were you.

Indeed lol. I should have known since at 190 her iq is so much higher than mine. People with big heads are smarter you know. And remember to stay away from the coasts, Tsunamis are going to wreak havoc on the west coast this year.

/is it any wonder she doesn't have a job?

That was horribly said. Lack of coffee, you know.

HAMMERTOE: To unequivocally state that there is no such thing as psychic phenomena is tantamount to saying there is no "God". Now, what say you?

I didn't see that coming.

HAMMERTOE: To unequivocally state that there is no such thing as psychic phenomena is tantamount to saying there is no "God". Now, what say you?

There is no god.

HAMMERTOE: To unequivocally state that there is no such thing as psychic phenomena is tantamount to saying there is no "God". Now, what say you?

Anything is possible, however, we have less proof of psychic phenomena than we do of God.

And I'm a nonbeliever.

When psychics get better than random probability from guessing, then we might be on to something.

For instance, reading people's body language and mannerisms really well isn't telepathy or other psychic gift, but extremely good observational skills coupled with a lot of knowledge about people in general. That isn't to say some people don't believe they are truly psychic, but there is still little to no evidence psychic phenomena exists.

//If there is ever a pyrokinetic, watch out world.

meat0918: For instance, reading people's body language and mannerisms really well isn't telepathy or other psychic gift, but extremely good observational skills coupled with a lot of knowledge about people in general. That isn't to say some people don't believe they are truly psychic, but there is still little to no evidence psychic phenomena exists.

That gets into cold reading, which is how John Edward and his ilk made cash. Whether they believed it was actually psychic powers or not is open for debate.

Styro Foam: HAMMERTOE: To unequivocally state that there is no such thing as psychic phenomena is tantamount to saying there is no "God". Now, what say you?

There is no god.

I may as well go ahead and elaborate. I have never seen a definition of the word "god" that has not been either
1. Incoherent
2. Self-contradictory
or
3. Impossible

If you can't define the word "god", we can't begin to discuss whether or not one exists. I have the same confidence that there is no god as I have that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.

buckler: I'd be willing to concede that there are those with a sort of intuition, similar to the way you can put together disparate clues

Yeah, that's what I've always thought Jeannette was doing, sort of a savant Sherlock Holmes thing.

Then again, more than once I've had her tell me something off the cuff so outrageously accurate and yet so trivial that it startled me. She's so weird it's fun to talk to her, but just a whole lot of that is bs new age crap, with little jewels of surprise buried in.