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(NESN)   Remember that time when there was a huge brawl during your youth hockey match and your mom ran onto the ice in her pink jacket? Well, one of these kids does (Not safe for work language in video)   (nesn.com) divider line 36
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2012-06-13 09:31:08 AM
Man, I'd love to see another woman come out there and pull her jacket back up over her head and start working her
 
2012-06-13 09:38:53 AM
One of those kids remembers my mom?!

(throws gloves off)

Alright, you little shiatstain, let's dance!
 
2012-06-13 09:39:50 AM
Poor Pink Jacket's kid. Mom looks like she'll be spelling out penis at city council meetings before she's hoarded her last cat. That has to be a fun home environment.
 
2012-06-13 09:47:57 AM
In some part of her mind, this woman thought that this was a completely reasonable and warranted action.

"That other kid has been waling on my kid the whole game and now it's happening again! I'm going to go yell at the other kid, and the ref while I'm at it. It's just a high school game, none of this matters anyway. I see parents at little league do it all the time."

The finger pointing/wagging sealed it for me.
 
2012-06-13 09:58:07 AM
While the players are standing on both skates and punching, the referees stay out of it. As soon as one player falls down off to the ice, the referees break it up. Standard procedure.
 
2012-06-13 09:59:21 AM

Kuta: While the players are standing on both skates and punching, the referees stay out of it. As soon as one player falls down off to the ice, the referees break it up. Standard procedure.


Even in youth hockey?
 
2012-06-13 10:05:04 AM
48.756% of Hockey parents are awful human beings.
 
2012-06-13 10:06:22 AM
Whoever submitted this should be kicked in the nuts
 
2012-06-13 10:14:04 AM
The funny thing is that the appearance of her pink jacket did seem to completely stun and neuter the players. It's like the embarrassment they felt for their co-player united them.

Perhaps this could be used on an international level for world peace -- send out Israel's mom in a pink coat, everybody else would just throw their hands up and say, "Shiat, Israel. I'm so embarrassed for you. We're cool now."
 
2012-06-13 10:41:36 AM

desertmouse: The funny thing is that the appearance of her pink jacket did seem to completely stun and neuter the players. It's like the embarrassment they felt for their co-player united them.

Perhaps this could be used on an international level for world peace -- send out Israel's mom in a pink coat, everybody else would just throw their hands up and say, "Shiat, Israel. I'm so embarrassed for you. We're cool now."


Syria's mom comes out in a housecoat and curlers and we've solved the Middle East.
 
2012-06-13 10:45:39 AM

The Smails Kid: desertmouse: The funny thing is that the appearance of her pink jacket did seem to completely stun and neuter the players. It's like the embarrassment they felt for their co-player united them.

Perhaps this could be used on an international level for world peace -- send out Israel's mom in a pink coat, everybody else would just throw their hands up and say, "Shiat, Israel. I'm so embarrassed for you. We're cool now."

Syria's mom comes out in a housecoat and curlers and we've solved the Middle East.


Middle East peace: as easy as hockey in the desert
 
2012-06-13 10:47:53 AM

desertmouse: Perhaps this could be used on an international level for world peace -- send out Israel's mom in a pink coat, everybody else would just throw their hands up and say, "Shiat, Israel. I'm so embarrassed for you. We're cool now."


Israel's mom would be too busy worrying over why he isn't married yet, because Israel is such a good boy and he's got such a face.
 
2012-06-13 11:48:24 AM
It doesn't say (I don't think) where this happened, but when I read the headline I assumed it was the Boston area...with the NESN link (New England Sports Network) it probably is. We have hockey dads killing each other. And other parents brawling in the parking lots constantly.
There's infinitely more youth hockey in Canada - does this stuff happen up there, too? I don't seem to hear about crazy violent hockey parents outside of my area.
 
2012-06-13 11:55:12 AM

Gunny Highway: Kuta: While the players are standing on both skates and punching, the referees stay out of it. As soon as one player falls down off to the ice, the referees break it up. Standard procedure.

Even in youth hockey?


Yes. Those look like peewees or bantams, around 11-14 yrs old. A ref can get hurt by their shenanigans; also, you might cover one up and the other kid gets a free shot at him. The little ones you can just pull apart, but generally they don't get into it much. With players in an altercation, it takes two refs to pull them apart. One on each side, with an arm over and an arm under the players' arms. Then you separate them, and each ref has full control of a player's arms, so there are no extra pokes.

As you can see by the result, not much happened, and the refs handled it fine. As an evaluator, I would have chewed the one ref a new one for leaning against the boards and just blowing his whistle at them. Stand up and look engaged, and talk to them. The ref who yelled at the mom gets points for awareness. Good use of his voice, too. Firm but not insane.
 
2012-06-13 11:56:43 AM

Nana's Vibrator: I don't seem to hear about crazy violent hockey parents outside of my area.


That wasn't crazy violent, just crazy.
Love to ref ice hockey because the fans can't chase you. Until you leave the ice, that is. Sure beats baseball, soccer, basketball, etc.

/what better sport to play in the summer?
 
2012-06-13 12:14:46 PM

Emrick: 48.756% of Hockey parents are awful human beings.


I'd go closer to 25% based on experience, with about 3% being psychotic.

I started my kid at 4, he's 9 now and about average as a player. He likes it, so I support him and keep it fun. I can see how a parent can get nutty about it though: I had no idea how competitive it gets (especially now that we're in MI, holy crap). Camps, clinics, tournaments, early weeekend practices...the parents burn out before the kids do. It's a huge investment, financially and time-wise.
 
2012-06-13 12:55:23 PM
Well, that scene caused the kids to stop fighting.

The goalie should have gone in there, though. His player was getting pounded. That was weak. And shame on the ref for standing there, with his "I don't get paid enough for this" attitude. Douche moves all around. When you see someone, especially a kid, getting pounded helplessly, somebody do something. He looked like Brian Boyle.
 
2012-06-13 01:46:49 PM

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: Well, that scene caused the kids to stop fighting.

The goalie should have gone in there, though. His player was getting pounded. That was weak. And shame on the ref for standing there, with his "I don't get paid enough for this" attitude. Douche moves all around. When you see someone, especially a kid, getting pounded helplessly, somebody do something. He looked like Brian Boyle Boitano.

 
2012-06-13 02:25:16 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Nana's Vibrator: I don't seem to hear about crazy violent hockey parents outside of my area.

That wasn't crazy violent, just crazy.
Love to ref ice hockey because the fans can't chase you. Until you leave the ice, that is. Sure beats baseball, soccer, basketball, etc.

/what better sport to play in the summer?


I loved summer baseball but saw my share of crazy parents. Man, you must have some super powers if you can deal with them. And coaches
 
2012-06-13 02:31:19 PM

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: Well, that scene caused the kids to stop fighting.

The goalie should have gone in there, though. His player was getting pounded. That was weak. And shame on the ref for standing there, with his "I don't get paid enough for this" attitude. Douche moves all around. When you see someone, especially a kid, getting pounded helplessly, somebody do something. He looked like Brian Boyle.


If they are, in fact, 11-14, isn't that a good time to learn to fight (if it's truly a part of the game and you're going to learn at all)? If anything, shouldn't the coaches and refs let it play out - unless there's a chance of long term injury - then pull them aside afterwards and say something to the effect of "You boys shouldn't be fighting, but if you're going to fight, here's what you do..."?
 
2012-06-13 03:02:56 PM
"LEAVE MY SON ALONE"

Boy then proceeds to get worse beatings for the rest of his school days


great job mom
 
2012-06-13 03:04:10 PM

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: Well, that scene caused the kids to stop fighting.

The goalie should have gone in there, though. His player was getting pounded. That was weak. And shame on the ref for standing there, with his "I don't get paid enough for this" attitude. Douche moves all around. When you see someone, especially a kid, getting pounded helplessly, somebody do something. He looked like Brian Boyle.


A. You don't know anything about refereeing.
B. You don't know anything about hockey.

The ref's posture was bad, but his action was correct. That's how we're trained.
If the goalie leaves his crease during an altercation without instruction from the ref, he's liable for a penalty.
If the goalie is the first to intervene in an altercation, he's liable for a game misconduct.
No gloves came off, everyone wears helmets, the damage that can be done is limited.
 
2012-06-13 03:22:13 PM

Langston: Man, I'd love to see another woman come out there and pull her jacket back up over her head and start working her


Coach Jules approves
 
2012-06-13 03:33:04 PM

Nana's Vibrator: It doesn't say (I don't think) where this happened, but when I read the headline I assumed it was the Boston area


In the video's description on YouTube it says that it was a "Boston Raptors and Tribe" game. So you win a cookie.
 
2012-06-13 04:36:45 PM

Gunny Highway: Kuta: While the players are standing on both skates and punching, the referees stay out of it. As soon as one player falls down off to the ice, the referees break it up. Standard procedure.

Even in youth hockey?


If they're at the age where checking's allowed (which appears to be the case here), absolutely. Refs don't like getting hit with fists or sticks any more than the players do.
 
2012-06-13 05:24:46 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Gunny Highway: Kuta: While the players are standing on both skates and punching, the referees stay out of it. As soon as one player falls down off to the ice, the referees break it up. Standard procedure.

Even in youth hockey?

Yes. Those look like peewees or bantams, around 11-14 yrs old. A ref can get hurt by their shenanigans; also, you might cover one up and the other kid gets a free shot at him. The little ones you can just pull apart, but generally they don't get into it much. With players in an altercation, it takes two refs to pull them apart. One on each side, with an arm over and an arm under the players' arms. Then you separate them, and each ref has full control of a player's arms, so there are no extra pokes.

As you can see by the result, not much happened, and the refs handled it fine. As an evaluator, I would have chewed the one ref a new one for leaning against the boards and just blowing his whistle at them. Stand up and look engaged, and talk to them. The ref who yelled at the mom gets points for awareness. Good use of his voice, too. Firm but not insane.


I wish I had refs like you when I played. My team had an altercation with another team, and I got ahold of another kid who wanted to fight me really really badly. His tactical error was me being 6 inches and 50 pounds heavier than him. The ref jumped in pretty quickly when he saw what the little guy had done, which was good, but it was only one ref and he grabbed little dude, which was bad. I'm not about to kill anyone, considering I really just played hockey for fun, so I let runtie go. That entire incident always struck me as really pants-on-head on the ref's part.

There were a number of moments that left me scratching my head regarding refs, like the ref who refused to allow a stick challenge on a blade that looked like it was at a 90 degree angle, only to allow it right as the other team was notified and the kid changed his stick. All our games we played north of I-70 in Ohio were vastly better reffed, and everything south was about one late hit short of a riot.
 
2012-06-13 08:02:08 PM

taoistlumberjak: All our games we played north of I-70 in Ohio were vastly better reffed, and everything south was about one late hit short of a riot.


A lot depends on the ref association and the standards they hold themselves to. Also, not every ref is competent, not every ref is experienced, and, sadly, not every ref is as familiar with the rules as he/she should be. You need good judgement, good skating skills, and the right temperament. Our local association has a pretty good rep. We get a lot of compliments from out of town clubs coming in.

I never understood the concept of being a "homer." The local teams yell at me all the time; why would I cut them any slack?
 
2012-06-13 11:25:54 PM

Emrick: 98.756% of Hockey parents are awful human beings.


FTFY

/ex-ref

We once got a court order in Kamloops to keep a mother away from any game her son played in
 
2012-06-14 06:53:54 AM

Gunny Highway: Kuta: While the players are standing on both skates and punching, the referees stay out of it. As soon as one player falls down off to the ice, the referees break it up. Standard procedure.
Even in youth hockey?


In all sports.

The worst the ref can do is get in the middle of a fight and take an errant punch to the face. Wait til the players are done (read: tired), then break them up. It's standard Game Management procedure. They're not babysitters; they're referees.
 
2012-06-14 06:56:06 AM

The Smails Kid: Syria's mom comes out in a housecoat and curlers and we've solved the Middle East.


Yah, brandishing a rolling pin: Syria's mom vs. Israel's NY Jew guilt-trip mother.

......that would be a conflagration for the ages.
 
2012-06-14 06:57:42 AM

Galloping Galoshes: /what better sport to play in the summer?


Lacrosse.
 
2012-06-14 07:03:52 AM
err...link didn't take.

I meant to say: LACROSSE!

/Incidentally: The above brawl is a textbook example for officials of how NOT to break it up, and why its stupid to try and break up a fight in progress. When a brawl starts, there's nothing you can do to stop it. Get out your riot pad, get the numbers of everyone on the floor, ensure your bench officials take numbers of anyone coming off the player's bench. Then the officials pair up and take one fight at a time, preferably the most one-side fight first, break them up, get them off the floor, then move onto the next one.
 
2012-06-14 10:56:37 AM

Harv72b: Nana's Vibrator: It doesn't say (I don't think) where this happened, but when I read the headline I assumed it was the Boston area

In the video's description on YouTube it says that it was a "Boston Raptors and Tribe" game. So you win a cookie.


Sweet! I love cookies. But god help each and every one of you if there's a goddamned raisin in it.
/second thought, I can't accept the cookie - I'm punishing myself. I botched a Seinfeld reference last week.
 
2012-06-15 11:36:55 AM

Galloping Galoshes: taoistlumberjak: All our games we played north of I-70 in Ohio were vastly better reffed, and everything south was about one late hit short of a riot.

A lot depends on the ref association and the standards they hold themselves to. Also, not every ref is competent, not every ref is experienced, and, sadly, not every ref is as familiar with the rules as he/she should be. You need good judgement, good skating skills, and the right temperament. Our local association has a pretty good rep. We get a lot of compliments from out of town clubs coming in.

I never understood the concept of being a "homer." The local teams yell at me all the time; why would I cut them any slack?


When I was coaching a few years back, I realized one thing; I'd rather have a game called consistently than a game called one-sided in my favor. The games called consistently tended to end with one team or the other potting the winning goal in the last minute or two. The games called one-sided finished with 5 guys in each box, 3 more in each dressing room, and a return engagement with the opposition two weeks later that, at the very least, started off the same way.

If the kids I was helping coach were doing dumb things, than I don't mind them getting called for it. I mind it even less if they hooked a guy as they were getting beat (you can fix that later, for now it may have saved a goal). What I hated was watching our kids do something dumb, the other team retaliating, and the refs busting the other team all game. It didn't take a rocket surgeon to know one of the kids would eventually play the numbers and figure that they may as well get a good shot in if they're going to go. That's typically when a game fell apart.
 
2012-06-15 01:27:56 PM

natural316: "LEAVE MY SON ALONE"

Boy then proceeds to get worse beatings for the rest of his school days


great job mom


I used to referee soccer. I think parents must get some kind of a pamphlet on why everything is the ref's fault and how to yell at them. My mom was watching me do my job and a few parents started the usual heckling. I heard my mom yell, "That's my son!" I'm sure she got into an argument with the parents that I couldn't hear, but damn I was embarrassed..
 
2012-06-15 04:17:22 PM

MoronLessOff: "That's my son!"


I had the best parents.
they lovingly ingored me at team sports.
But they really did love me.
 
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