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2012-06-13 09:07:33 AM
danfrank: MAYORBOB: Three things: Never rat on your friends; always keep your mouth shut and, above all else, DON'T GET CAUGHT.

Of course the first rule of Goodfellas Club is only stupid people get caught, 'cause they're disorganized. Henry was organized.

You know who gets caught Karen? Attractive and successful African-American stick-up men, that's who.


Funniest instance of that auto edit I've seen.
 
2012-06-13 09:07:56 AM
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"Now go home in your farking pine box!"
 
2012-06-13 09:10:51 AM
McGrits: Some of the real life stories are amazing. My favorite is the bit where he was being interogated after finally getting busted and told that if he didn't tell everything, he would never get to witness protection. He tells the police about the college basketball shaving and completely surprised the police. Never made the movie.

Not only was he shaving points the FBI Agent he was talking to went to BC and took great joy in prosecuting the kids who took the money.
 
2012-06-13 09:12:31 AM
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R.I.P LAURYN HILL
 
2012-06-13 09:17:24 AM
steerforth: Mr. Shabooboo: As someone watching Goodfellas, I'm getting a kick..Seriously..It just happened to be on!

Actually, I think Karen was sort of a sympathetic character in Goodfellas..Though she is complicit in
the crime, she really did care for Henry.She paid the price while he was in prison and having to
go on the run into the witness protection program, looking over her shoulder, etc...As they showed,once
your in that life, there is no way out except to die.

Meh. She liked the life as much as anyone. But it is still one of the few gangster films where the women are more than wallpaper. Pesci's ma (grandma?) wishing him well when he went off to get "made" FTW


IIRC, she was Jack Dragna's sister.
 
2012-06-13 09:17:31 AM
You know why he died? It was outta respect.
 
2012-06-13 09:23:13 AM
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RIP

/By the way you're under arrest.
 
2012-06-13 09:29:21 AM
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R.I.P. Steven Hill
You Law & Order guy
 
2012-06-13 09:30:54 AM
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R.I.P. Grant Hill
 
2012-06-13 09:32:01 AM
Tat'dGreaser: Travis_Bickle: He was a stone cold greedy psycho that killed dozens of people. Far far worse than he was portrayed in the movie.

Link

Wow that was a good read. That dude was f*cking crazy


yeah i read about them a while back. read up on the Tommy Character on there as well. they were all crazy.
 
2012-06-13 09:32:45 AM
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RIP Mole Hill
 
2012-06-13 09:32:53 AM
Oh plaleeeeeeeese
 
2012-06-13 09:32:58 AM
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R.I.P. Jonah Hill
 
2012-06-13 09:34:46 AM
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R.I.P. Vanessa Hill
 
2012-06-13 09:43:07 AM
"Don't you go farking Henry Hill on me!"

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2012-06-13 09:43:26 AM
Tat'dGreaser: I never did get the mobster hero-worship. Not really sad that this dirtbag is dead.

This quote is why.

"To us, those goody-good people who worked shiatty jobs for bum paychecks and took the subway to work every day and worried about their bills were dead. I mean they were suckers. They had no balls. If we wanted something, we just took it. If anyone complained twice they got hit so bad, believe me, they never complained again."

It's the same reason people are fascinated by Vikings or Mongol horse warriors or what have you - men who take what they want without remorse and don't take shiat off of anyone. Just because most of us have been successfully domesticated doesn't stop us from daydreaming about living outside of the constraints of civilized society.
 
2012-06-13 09:44:13 AM
MythDragon: [thefilmstage.com image 378x195]
So is he up in My Blue Heaven now?


He finally found some arugula.

/awesome movie in its own right
 
2012-06-13 09:47:04 AM
 
2012-06-13 09:47:30 AM
Comic Book Guy: MythDragon: [thefilmstage.com image 378x195]
So is he up in My Blue Heaven now?

He finally found some arugula.

/awesome movie in its own right


You could melt all this stuff.
 
2012-06-13 09:51:34 AM
robmilmel: Henry forgot the two greatest things in life- never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut.

Kinda surprised he was allowed to live after that.


Organized crime isn't that organized, especially when it comes to wise guys like Henry Hill. He wasn't a made guy, and the fairly small number of people who would have really resented his betrayal died in jail or by violence. EVERYBODY sells out to get a lesser sentence these days, and half the mob are FBI informants. Henry Hill stayed hidden long enough for bygones to be bygones.
 
2012-06-13 09:52:36 AM
Mr. Shabooboo: As someone watching Goodfellas, I'm getting a kick..Seriously..It just happened to be on!

Actually, I think Karen was sort of a sympathetic character in Goodfellas..Though she is complicit in
the crime, she really did care for Henry.She paid the price while he was in prison and having to
go on the run into the witness protection program, looking over her shoulder, etc...As they showed,once
your in that life, there is no way out except to die.


I think Pauly was also something of a sympathetic character.
 
2012-06-13 09:52:47 AM
Like this guy or hate him, he is a rare dude. He turned rat on the mafia and died of old age, pretty much. That doesnt happen a lot...
 
2012-06-13 09:58:03 AM
FishyFred: I'm amazed he lasted this long. After he went into witness protection, he couldn't stay on the straight and narrow and he went back to a life of crime.

I've heard stories that happens a lot - you can take criminals out of the environment, but they are still criminals (see Sammy The Bull).

Hill did make some legit money from book sales and (probably) appearances/interviews. Not sure if that would have been enough to live on and support his on-off drug usage.
 
2012-06-13 10:02:32 AM
one of the best, iconic & spooky Scorcese shots EVAR!

4.bp.blogspot.com

/gotz cheelz
 
2012-06-13 10:04:13 AM
Darth_Lukecash: [images.wikia.com image 640x480]

Birds of a feather...


Anyone else notice how the bird on the left looks kinda phallic?
 
2012-06-13 10:07:29 AM
strapp3r: one of the best, iconic & spooky Scorcese shots EVAR!

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 600x328]

/gotz cheelz


I like this shot better.

mimg.ugo.com
 
2012-06-13 10:10:45 AM
Darth_Lukecash: Benevolent Misanthrope: NewportBarGuy: make me some tea: I love that movie.

I'm pretty sure it's in the Top 5 list of anyone I want to be friends with, or admit that I know.

Same here. I wouldn't even consider liking anyone who didn't like this movie.

Personally, of all the Martin Scorsese mob movies, Goodfellas was the best one. The Departed and Casino were excellent, but I think what put Goodfellas at the top was that there were no sympathetic characters. Departed had Leo as the "good guy", Casino's DeNero was sympathetic because he was a good father and just a gambler.

Goodfellas every single character wanted that life. Every character was out for themselves and every character was ready to betray another. Even Henry Hills wife got moist at the fact that her man was a gangster.


====================

Yup. I grew up in Jersey and had the misfortune of meeting some real life mobsters. Most of these dudes were not just violent, they were stupid beyond description. Most did not make a lot of money, they just scraped by trying to get their bills paid. There was nothing really romantic about them.....nothing like you saw in the Godfather movie......just a pathetic bunch of losers.
 
2012-06-13 10:13:45 AM
Elmo Jones: Go get your shine pine box!

Awesome.
 
2012-06-13 10:21:58 AM
Sybarite: Tat'dGreaser: I never did get the mobster hero-worship. Not really sad that this dirtbag is dead.

This quote is why.

"To us, those goody-good people who worked shiatty jobs for bum paychecks and took the subway to work every day and worried about their bills were dead. I mean they were suckers. They had no balls. If we wanted something, we just took it. If anyone complained twice they got hit so bad, believe me, they never complained again."

It's the same reason people are fascinated by Vikings or Mongol horse warriors or what have you - men who take what they want without remorse and don't take shiat off of anyone. Just because most of us have been successfully domesticated doesn't stop us from daydreaming about living outside of the constraints of civilized society.


I get it. It's the biatches' fault, amirite?
 
2012-06-13 10:30:14 AM
McGrits: Some of the real life stories are amazing. My favorite is the bit where he was being interogated after finally getting busted and told that if he didn't tell everything, he would never get to witness protection. He tells the police about the college basketball shaving and completely surprised the police. Never made the movie.


/apparently one must slice the garlic very thinly


See The Big Heist... stars Donald Sutherland as Jimmy Burke and Nick Sandow as Henry Hill. It's all about the 1978 Lufthansa Heist, and they mention the basketball stuff as how they finally got to Jimmy through Henry.
 
2012-06-13 10:30:27 AM
Good. He was never entertaining on Howard Stern.
 
2012-06-13 10:35:44 AM
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RIP, Boot Hill

What?
 
2012-06-13 10:39:00 AM
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RIP Hank Hill
 
2012-06-13 10:39:22 AM
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RIP Sugar Hill Gang
 
2012-06-13 10:48:03 AM
FirstNationalBastard: Did someone finally get him a Caramel Macchiato?

Yeah, all over Lisa G's face.
 
2012-06-13 10:59:05 AM
I LOVE "Goodfellas" and it will always remain one of my favorite movies of all time.

However, after reading "On the Run: A mafia childhood" written by Gregg and Gina Hill (his kids), I can't watch the movie the same way anymore.

Henry was scum and the world is better off without him.
 
2012-06-13 11:08:30 AM
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покойся с миром
Эдуард Хиль
 
2012-06-13 11:26:51 AM
Fissile: Yup. I grew up in Jersey and had the misfortune of meeting some real life mobsters. Most of these dudes were not just violent, they were stupid beyond description. Most did not make a lot of money, they just scraped by trying to get their bills paid. There was nothing really romantic about them.....nothing like you saw in the Godfather movie......just a pathetic bunch of losers.

Makes you wonder what a handful of guys with half a brain and a violent streak could pull off.
 
2012-06-13 11:27:27 AM
Darth_Lukecash: Benevolent Misanthrope: NewportBarGuy: make me some tea: I love that movie.

I'm pretty sure it's in the Top 5 list of anyone I want to be friends with, or admit that I know.

Same here. I wouldn't even consider liking anyone who didn't like this movie.

Personally, of all the Martin Scorsese mob movies, Goodfellas was the best one. The Departed and Casino were excellent, but I think what put Goodfellas at the top was that there were no sympathetic characters. Departed had Leo as the "good guy", Casino's DeNero was sympathetic because he was a good father and just a gambler.

Goodfellas every single character wanted that life. Every character was out for themselves and every character was ready to betray another. Even Henry Hills wife got moist at the fact that her man was a gangster.


That's the thing about that movie. Nobody is an "angel" in that movie; Hill just had the best of luck, he outlived them all.
 
2012-06-13 11:30:50 AM
dickfreckle: It's important that we remember not recall Hill for his highly stylized image from the film. The dude was a scumfark. Sometimes white people rant about how young black males idolize dopers and killers, yet they seem to forget how they worship the better-dressed white versions in cinema. I've caught myself doing it.

A thug is a thug.


This; I seem to recall some friend of mine biatching about a movie named "Belly" that was all about "the life" in black neighborhoods and how it glorified that lifestyle.

And I responded: "Goodfellas" was about the same thing and you weren't biatching about it.

And he stayed silent after that.
 
2012-06-13 11:30:55 AM
dickfreckle 2012-06-13 03:25:53 AM

I think my favorite part of Goodfellas is when the piano chord from "Layla" crashes down and it cuts to the front end of that pink Cadillac. It was a weird marriage of beauty and horror that, like other forms of art, I can't explain but know when it elicits a strong response.

And then there's that litany of boozy rock and roll (Stones' "Memo From Turner," "Monkey Man," "Mannish Boy" by Muddy Waters while inhaling blow) that just perfectly captures the bizarre day Hill was having just before being busted. Scorcese has always had a gift for the music matching the scene.

However..

It's important that we remember not recall Hill for his highly stylized image from the film. The dude was a scumfark. Sometimes white people rant about how young black males idolize dopers and killers, yet they seem to forget how they worship the better-dressed white versions in cinema. I've caught myself doing it.

A thug is a thug.


THIS. Oh, and nothing of value was lost.
 
2012-06-13 11:36:08 AM
rufus-t-firefly: At least Henry Hill admitted that he ripped people off.

In a way, that's why he's celebrated more than Benny Hinn.

It's the Carlin corollary: "He's full of shiat, but at least he lets you know it."

See also: "The People v. Larry Flynt." Larry published Hustler and got demonized for it; Charles Keating was a "moral crusader" all while being neck-deep in the Savings and Loan scandal.

Yet, in the end, it's Larry that's been celebrated, thankfully.
 
2012-06-13 11:39:31 AM
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2012-06-13 09:43:26 AM


Tat'dGreaser: I never did get the mobster hero-worship. Not really sad that this dirtbag is dead.

This quote is why.

"To us, those goody-good people who worked shiatty jobs for bum paychecks and took the subway to work every day and worried about their bills were dead. I mean they were suckers. They had no balls. If we wanted something, we just took it. If anyone complained twice they got hit so bad, believe me, they never complained again."

It's the same reason people are fascinated by Vikings or Mongol horse warriors or what have you - men who take what they want without remorse and don't take shiat off of anyone. Just because most of us have been successfully domesticated doesn't stop us from daydreaming about living outside of the constraints of civilized society.


So, I guess you're also an admirer of the top "leadership" of MS13, the Zetas and the Crips and Bloods.

But I'm gonna guess you're not.

America loves its gangsters, so long as its set to the soundtrack of Motown.
 
2012-06-13 11:43:20 AM
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RIP Sled Hill
 
2012-06-13 11:46:58 AM
Rwa2play: dickfreckle: It's important that we remember not recall Hill for his highly stylized image from the film. The dude was a scumfark. Sometimes white people rant about how young black males idolize dopers and killers, yet they seem to forget how they worship the better-dressed white versions in cinema. I've caught myself doing it.

A thug is a thug.

This; I seem to recall some friend of mine biatching about a movie named "Belly" that was all about "the life" in black neighborhoods and how it glorified that lifestyle.

And I responded: "Goodfellas" was about the same thing and you weren't biatching about it.

And he stayed silent after that.


"Goodfellas" doesn't glorify that lifestyle. It ends horribly for everyone even Hill.Hill doesn't get wacked at the end or go to prison until he dies of pneumonia but he ends up living like one of those poor, dead already, working slobs. "Belly" is even worse IIRC because everyone dies. "The Godfather" glorifies the mafia by portraying an era that never really was and Mike Corleone never really pays for living the life until the 3rd sequel.


Scorsese talks about it in one of the dvd extras on "The Departed". That life only leads to 2 endings. Be murdered by your "friends" at a young age or die old in prison.
 
2012-06-13 12:06:05 PM
Magnanimous_J: Fissile: Yup. I grew up in Jersey and had the misfortune of meeting some real life mobsters. Most of these dudes were not just violent, they were stupid beyond description. Most did not make a lot of money, they just scraped by trying to get their bills paid. There was nothing really romantic about them.....nothing like you saw in the Godfather movie......just a pathetic bunch of losers.

Makes you wonder what a handful of guys with half a brain and a violent streak could pull off.


=================

Guys with half a brain who have no moral/ethical problems with larceny on a grand scale all go to Wall St. No violence required.
 
2012-06-13 12:06:18 PM
Best line in the movie:

'Right after I moved here I ordered spaghetti and marinara sauce and I got egg noodles and ketchup.'

And yeah, the guy was a major league POS.
 
2012-06-13 12:16:19 PM
SirEattonHogg: Sybarite

Tat'dGreaser: I never did get the mobster hero-worship. Not really sad that this dirtbag is dead.

This quote is why.

"To us, those goody-good people who worked shiatty jobs for bum paychecks and took the subway to work every day and worried about their bills were dead. I mean they were suckers. They had no balls. If we wanted something, we just took it. If anyone complained twice they got hit so bad, believe me, they never complained again."

It's the same reason people are fascinated by Vikings or Mongol horse warriors or what have you - men who take what they want without remorse and don't take shiat off of anyone. Just because most of us have been successfully domesticated doesn't stop us from daydreaming about living outside of the constraints of civilized society.

So, I guess you're also an admirer of the top "leadership" of MS13, the Zetas and the Crips and Bloods.

But I'm gonna guess you're not.

America loves its gangsters, so long as its set to the soundtrack of Motown.


1/10 and a place on the meathook for you Carbone. Farking thought he'd never shut up.

/being a gangster is better than being President of the United States.
 
2012-06-13 12:20:55 PM
Oldiron_79: Mr. Shabooboo: As someone watching Goodfellas, I'm getting a kick..Seriously..It just happened to be on!

Actually, I think Karen was sort of a sympathetic character in Goodfellas..Though she is complicit in
the crime, she really did care for Henry.She paid the price while he was in prison and having to
go on the run into the witness protection program, looking over her shoulder, etc...As they showed,once
your in that life, there is no way out except to die.

I think Pauly was also something of a sympathetic character.



You know..I think that's sorta true..He really just wanted to run his racket. He didn't want trouble,
because trouble could not only come back on him (Like his speech to Henry about how other guys
got in trouble over drugs). Unlike a lot of the other guys, I don't think he viewed going to jail
as just being "part of his job" (Like you hear Joe Pesci's character say in Casino). I view a lot of
what the real bosses did was wealth and loyalty through re-distribution of wealth. But we really
arn't shown what Pauly did to become a boss. I may have to go and look around and see what Paul
Cicero's history was..
 
2012-06-13 12:48:33 PM
Sybarite: Tat'dGreaser: I never did get the mobster hero-worship. Not really sad that this dirtbag is dead.

This quote is why.

"To us, those goody-good people who worked shiatty jobs for bum paychecks and took the subway to work every day and worried about their bills were dead. I mean they were suckers. They had no balls. If we wanted something, we just took it. If anyone complained twice they got hit so bad, believe me, they never complained again."

It's the same reason people are fascinated by Vikings or Mongol horse warriors or what have you - men who take what they want without remorse and don't take shiat off of anyone. Just because most of us have been successfully domesticated doesn't stop us from daydreaming about living outside of the constraints of civilized society.


I'm curious. What is your opinion of Bernie Madoff? Is this someone who fascinates you? He was taking without remorse. Should there be a movie where he is made bigger than life on screen? Turned into something of a folk hero? (And don't kid yourself, a lot of people see Henry Hill as a folk hero.)

Or, let's look at someone who has been made bigger than life onscreen. Mark Zuckerberg. What about him? Does he fall into that area of fascination? He has certainly taken from people and done things that are, at the very least, questionable.

The mob is different. They create their own dynamic in this country. I have a friend who works in Hollywood, and he has told me about a show he worked on that was made by the mob, for the mob. It wasn't broadcast anywhere. It was just a show about Mob guys controlling the country that was sent out on dvd to people. The mob isn't about a bunch of conquering warriors. They are thugs and criminals. Vikings and Monguls were a people surviving in harsh conditions; yes, they were violent, but not in the same way. That is an...we'll call it "odd"...argument. That isn't the case with the mob. They could easily integrate into society, but they choose to live above it. And for some damn reason a ton of idiots in this country think that is "cool."
 
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