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2012-06-13 02:50:07 AM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Another well-thought-out, elaborate, and intricately reasoned rebuttal from the Left. Do you people have anything other than snark and insults to offer? I ask in all sincerity.


I know I don't.
 
2012-06-13 03:03:30 AM  
I like cake.
 
2012-06-13 03:03:39 AM  
admintell.napco.com
 
2012-06-13 03:08:11 AM  

Ghastly: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Is it just me, or do the guns they captured last year appear to be pretty farked up?

/some of them look inoperable to me

Probably a buried cache by some idiot who had absolutely no idea how you actually bury a cache of weapons.


Yes. Can smell the rust from here. That one on top *might * have been oiled and cleaned since my last child was born.
 
2012-06-13 03:12:39 AM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: SmitetheRighteous: Probably the most amusing and disturbing aspect of the last couple of years is Tea Partiers calling Democrats and various liberally-inclined folks "Nazis" when back on Planet Reality, National Socialism is nothing but a right-wing movement.

Of course realizing that for some morans would require increasing their wordiness by orders of magnitude.

Eh, as a right-winger I would agree that there's no point in calling leftists "Nazis" when the fact remains that leftists have historically killed far more people than the Nazis ever did (about 80 million vs. 12 million, respectively).


I'm not sure why "number of deaths caused by..." is somehow the barometer for measuring the "your belief system blows because..." claptrap. That's arguing worthy of 5th graders sitting on the jungle gym.

If you want to go down that route, you better be prepared to take it to the limit.

Number of deaths caused by Genghis Khan during the expansion of the Mongolian Empire (was he an anti-colonialist, Kenyan, socialist libtard too?)

Number of deaths caused by the Taiping Rebellion(The leader of that bunch thought he was Jesus's brother. 20 million is the best estimate for the number of lives lost in that debacle)

The number of deaths in the wars to unify China under the Han dynasty

Number of deaths caused in the New World through the actions of Spain and the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church in general

The Armenian Genocide

The Napoleonic Wars.

The slave trade. African colonization.

The spread of Islam.

The Crusades.

Expansion of the Roman Empire

Pretty much all of Japanese history

Anything related to ethnic cleansing

Shall we assign political parties to this whole bunch or should we acknowledge the simple truth that life has always been cheap and expendable throughout human history.
 
2012-06-13 03:14:22 AM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7159585/77452755#c77452755" target="_blank">Msphere</a>:</b> <i>Regarding the first paragraph: your argument is pretty much tautological. Of course someone who identifies as "hard left" would support that statement. But I don't see a lot of evidence that this is any more or less prevalent than any similar statements made by the other end of the political spectrum.</i>

But who really represents the "hard right" in the West today, other than tiny groups of neo-Nazis who practically everyone hates in any case? The OWS movement by contrast attracted a disproportionately large share of media coverage considering the relatively small numbers involved, and of that coverage a surprising amount was favourable. Even Obama expressed his sympathies with the protesters. Could you honestly imagine such a thing happening with an extended series of public demonstrations conducted by people on the opposite end of the political spectrum? On the contrary, any tiny manifestation of "extreme right" sentiment attracts intense media opprobrium and paranoia ("the Nazis are back!!"), not to mention the critical interest of authorities looking to prosecute someone for "hate" crimes (because it's not hate to want to attack "banksters", apparently). --All I am saying is that I would like to see all kinds of fanaticism treated as equally reprehensible, and not have certain varieties given a free pass just because they happen to accord more closely with the prejudices of people who are influential in media, government, academia etc.

<i>Nor have I seen much evidence that any "harcore leftists" are making any headway at all in your feared "final end-run around democracy."</i>

True -- but then neither are neo-Nazis, for that matter. I don't say that hardcore lefties are subverting democracy, only that they would gladly do so given half the chance -- a chance that so far, thankfully, they haven't been given. Here in Canada, the recent so-called Arab Spring (now rapidly turning into the Islamist Winter) caused certain smug "progressive" types to complain that we also needed a revolution to rid ourselves of a democratically- elected conservative government. (Because it's only real democracy when a socialist party is in power all the time!) So yeah, there are many fanatics out there. But the great mass of the electorate, the unwashed cattle, are the ones keeping them in check.
 
2012-06-13 03:14:31 AM  

GAT_00: "You shiat foreigner, we'll get you. If you don't get out of here, we'll kill you."

"Leftists have names, leftists have addresses. Let's march and show our strength."

Now where does rhetoric like this sound familiar from?

And you know what? Why not.

Send Wallraff to Africa!"

I wonder where I've heard plans to kick all African immigrants out of a country recently from...


Right. Because a governent repatriating illegal immigrants, like any other nation does, is just the same as as violent mobs harassing and attacking legal residents. Does it ever occur to you that if you have to resort to such intellectual dishonesty, your core ideas may need some reexamination?
 
2012-06-13 03:19:50 AM  

GentlemanJ: Personally, I would expect that any serious revival of National Socialism would include exterminating these criminal imbeciles. The only way for them to maintain order would be to eliminate the crazies in their own ranks.


They keep the thug element around for intimidation until they secure political power, then it's Night of the Long Knives again.
 
2012-06-13 03:26:08 AM  
Nazis took guns away from the people, who in the US wants to take guns away from us?
Nazis loved their man-on-man sex, who in the US loves man-on-man sex?
Nazis hated churches, who in the US hates churches?
Nazis hated the Jews, who in the US also demonizes Jews.
I wouldn't call them Nazis, but I do call them progressives.
 
2012-06-13 03:33:50 AM  
Ok, let's get this straightened out. I'm tired of the troll mucking things up like an idiot.

Nazi's and Neo Nazi's = Far right. Conservatives.
They aren't really socialists, even if "socialism" in their name. They are Fascists.

Communists = Lefties.

Ok, now go ahead and resume your stupidity, I'm sure this won't stop you.
 
2012-06-13 03:38:05 AM  
I smell Nazi attitudes right here in this thread. No need to go all the way to the Fatherland.

Admit it boys, the hot Hugo Boss outfits don't make up for how much it stings that the hippie guys pull more tail than you.
 
2012-06-13 03:40:21 AM  

skullkrusher: Treize26: Corporate Self: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

I can tell meth is bad without need to try it.

I've never quite sorted out how someone can reconcile accusing an entire people of bigotry.

I think stupidity plays a big role


On whose part?
 
2012-06-13 03:41:00 AM  
Hey, the Nazi's might have been dicks but they did have nice suits.
 
2012-06-13 03:42:45 AM  

Baron Harkonnen: Gulper Eel: Hey, we still have troops stationed in Germany. Can't we do a little Dresden re-enactment thing on these punks?

The very next time I see an article on Fark detailing crimes against Palestinians by Israelis, I'll say, "Can't we do a little Auschwitz re-enactment thing on these punks?" I will be very curious as to whether I get permanently banned.


You still here, then?
 
2012-06-13 03:44:57 AM  
Nazi Apologist Thread!!

/hey, look at all these new people I've never seen before!
//at least it's an ethos...
 
2012-06-13 03:52:29 AM  
Wait, wait, they mistranslated the headline. Those are Nutzies, not Nazis. It's easy to confuse the two.
 
2012-06-13 03:54:59 AM  

evilbryan: Ok, let's get this straightened out. I'm tired of the troll mucking things up like an idiot.

Nazi's and Neo Nazi's = Far right. Conservatives.
They aren't really socialists, even if "socialism" in their name. They are Fascists.

Communists = Lefties.

Ok, now go ahead and resume your stupidity, I'm sure this won't stop you.


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Whatever makes you feel better. According to history the Nazis and the Reds were allies with mostly the same beliefs. Darn facts, pesky aren't they.
 
2012-06-13 03:59:15 AM  
An intelligent revival of European Nationalism would be one that abandoned antisemitism, embraced Israel as an outpost of European culture in the Middle East, and encouraged the Israelis to expel all Palestinians and otherwise embrace strict nationalist policies.

As for racial policies, a strong encouragement to those of Western European blood to have a lot of children, via things like girl volunteers to babysit, Mothers' Medals, and serious tax breaks. Also, teaching a positive pride in European ancestry and history, as well as each country's nationalist party being on friendly terms with the others' ones, but never blurring national distinctions. Absolute abandonment of the EU and the Euro. While no overt persecution of foreigners should occur, each nation would stop most immigration and encourage repatriation.

Complete emphasis on boosting technology, futuristic planning (space travel, etc.) as a means of giving people a sense of mythic purpose...I am really surprised no nationalist party in Europe seems to have thought of this. And, oh yes...the Neo-Nazis disappear. The unions become national labor fronts. The armies become smaller and more efficient with special forces emphasized. I could go on.
Note that I am not in favor of these things, generally, but if I wanted to revive nationalism in Europe, that would assuredly be my agenda.
 
2012-06-13 04:02:30 AM  

david_gaithersburg: evilbryan: Ok, let's get this straightened out. I'm tired of the troll mucking things up like an idiot.

Nazi's and Neo Nazi's = Far right. Conservatives.
They aren't really socialists, even if "socialism" in their name. They are Fascists.

Communists = Lefties.

Ok, now go ahead and resume your stupidity, I'm sure this won't stop you.

.
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Whatever makes you feel better. According to history the Nazis and the Reds were allies with mostly the same beliefs. Darn facts, pesky aren't they.


You mean the belief that a small minority of people should be in charge of large groups, power should be passed from a leader or group of leaders to hand selected followers, and that anyone who disagrees should be at the very least mocked, if not disappeared, even if they haven't done anything worse than being in the wrong place at the wrong time?.
 
2012-06-13 04:03:47 AM  
Germany and Japan are bellicose societies which should not be allowed to exist.

/trolling
 
2012-06-13 04:15:05 AM  
In Pic 3 I saw the gas price and was like "Dang!!! 1.46 for Gas!" But then I realized "Oh wait, that's probably per liter, so like 5.50/gal" Guess I shouldn't be too pissed about the $4.09/gal I paid yesterday. (Except they can ride their bike everywhere and I can't)
 
2012-06-13 04:39:05 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Nazis took guns away from the people, who in the US wants to take guns away from us?
Nazis loved their man-on-man sex, who in the US loves man-on-man sex?
Nazis hated churches, who in the US hates churches?
Nazis hated the Jews, who in the US also demonizes Jews.
I wouldn't call them Nazis, but I do call them progressives.



Poe's Law is particularly confounding in threads like this... there's nothing too crazy to be genuine, given all the nuts that drop out of the woodwork on such occasions.
 
2012-06-13 04:40:51 AM  
All you need to do is follow the worms!
 
2012-06-13 04:47:19 AM  
EvilRacistNaziFascist: But who really represents the "hard right" in the West today, other than tiny groups of neo-Nazis who practically everyone hates in any case? The OWS movement by contrast attracted a disproportionately large share of media coverage considering the relatively small numbers involved, and of that coverage a surprising amount was favourable. Even Obama expressed his sympathies with the protesters. Could you honestly imagine such a thing happening with an extended series of public demonstrations conducted by people on the opposite end of the political spectrum? On the contrary, any tiny manifestation of "extreme right" sentiment attracts intense media opprobrium and paranoia ("the Nazis are back!!"), not to mention the critical interest of authorities looking to prosecute someone for "hate" crimes (because it's not hate to want to attack "banksters", apparently). --All I am saying is that I would like to see all kinds of fanaticism treated as equally reprehensible, and not have certain varieties given a free pass just because they happen to accord more closely with the prejudices of people who are influential in media, government, academia etc.

This strikes me as a bit self-indulgent and not very intellectually rigorous, and I know from your comments that you are not normally the former, and you certainly are the latter. So let me explain why.

The OWS movement did attract a lot of attention and yes, I don't think any serious and honest person could claim that a larger segment of the media (writ large) leans left than leans right, so there was favorable coverage in some cases, Erin Burnett notwithstanding. And indeed, Obama expressed some sympathy. But I'm not sure I understand what the demonstration by the "opposite end of the political spectrum" might look like. Do you mean a band of fiscal conservatives marching in support of further deregulation? Or lamenting that the bailout was not large enough? Perhaps chanting that our Gini Coefficient should mirror Brazil's?

I'm being glib, but you get my point: the issues being protested were ones that, on "the other end of the political spectrum" would be laughable. There wouldn't be any "intense media opprobrium" because no one could argue with a straight face that, for example, corporations don't have ENOUGH influence in the political system. Except maybe the Kochs.

As to that last point, I've always found it a little bit strange...so you are saying that the people who are "influential in media, government, academia, etc" are "prejudiced" towards the lefty perspective? If those heavyweights were so damn left-leaning and influential, we wouldn't be having any protests like OWS, because those influential people would have changed the system! What's more, I'm always a little surprised that folks from the right say this, because it's like saying "those that have more education and general influence in the world are generally left-leaning." Well, geez...I want to be more like that than being less educated and with no influence. Maybe they're on to something. But I guess that's an argument for another time.

Nor have I seen much evidence that any "hardcore leftists" are making any headway at all in your feared "final end-run around democracy."

True -- but then neither are neo-Nazis, for that matter. I don't say that hardcore lefties are subverting democracy, only that they would gladly do so given half the chance -- a chance that so far, thankfully, they haven't been given. ...


Same for both sides, again. I think that in today's America, it'll be those who vociferously defend their 2nd Amendment rights who'll be the first to resort to armed struggle to get their way. And I think we know how most NRA members vote...We lefties can only do it by unlocking your hardened husks of hearts with MDMA or LSD...we don't have any guns! ;-)
 
2012-06-13 04:50:14 AM  
"I don't think any serious and honest person could claim that a larger segment of the media (writ large) leans left than leans right"

Ugh...read "could claim" as "could deny." Why am I so tired?
 
2012-06-13 04:53:13 AM  

Msphere: EvilRacistNaziFascist:

So was Jefferson a stupid man?

 
2012-06-13 04:56:58 AM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: The statement on page 5 of the slideshow is interesting: "National socialism can't be elected or begged for. It can only be achieved through the path of revolution." Take away the word "national" and you're left with a remark that anyone on the hard Left -- including those types overrepresented in movements like Occupy Wall Street -- would be proud to stand by.

This is more proof, as if any were needed, that both fascism and communism -- the latter of which frequently calls itself socialism, as in the acronym "USSR" -- are equally inimical to free societies; but in North America we don't have to worry about tiny fringes of neo-Nazis nearly as much as we do about hardcore leftists yearning to make a final end-run around democracy (i.e. because the brainwashed "masses" keep voting for the wrong parties like Republicans, Conservatives, etc.)


Yes, but does Occupy Wall Street have an ethos?
 
2012-06-13 05:06:29 AM  

Girl_Friday_19: In Pic 3 I saw the gas price and was like "Dang!!! 1.46 for Gas!" But then I realized "Oh wait, that's probably per liter, so like 5.50/gal" Guess I shouldn't be too pissed about the $4.09/gal I paid yesterday. (Except they can ride their bike everywhere and I can't)


It's also in Euro. And that's inexpensive for Germany. Most places it's closer to 8 or 9 dollars a gallon.
1.46 (Euros per liter) = 6.90 U.S. dollars per US gallon
 
2012-06-13 05:11:55 AM  

Kraln: Girl_Friday_19:
It's also in Euro. And that's inexpensive for Germany. Most places it's closer to 8 or 9 dollars a gallon.
1.46 (Euros per liter) = 6.90 U.S. dollars per US gallon

It's all third world money anymore - even dollars: "Full faith and credit of the US Government". Ain't got no faith in 'em an their credit sure ain't no goddam good.

 
2012-06-13 05:36:01 AM  

RanDomino: EvilRacistNaziFascist
The statement on page 5 of the slideshow is interesting: "National socialism can't be elected or begged for. It can only be achieved through the path of revolution." Take away the word "national" and you're left with a remark that anyone on the hard Left -- including those types overrepresented in movements like Occupy Wall Street -- would be proud to stand by.

This- this is some high-quality trolling right here.


Dammit. I had a feeling I'd taken the bait. Should have been tipped off by the handle.
 
2012-06-13 05:39:04 AM  
www.dailygalaxy.com
 
2012-06-13 05:49:49 AM  
The article blows things a bit out of proportion.

Neo-Nazis are a problem in rural eastern Germany but not really as big a problem as the article makes it appear. Their overall number is relatively small and they are extremely disorganized. Whenever these clowns stage a protest someplace civilized they end up being outnumbered by counterprotestor at least 10 to 1 sometimes 100 to1. If the constitutional protection agency pulled out their agents the whole leadership would probably collapse overnight.

The bit about the woman's son being attacked by neo-nazis also downplays the fact that her son was teenage punk. Punks and neo-nazis tend to violently clash all the time. Most of the time the punks outnumber the neo-nazi assholes, in this case he just had the misfortune of not having the upper hand. It was not a case of neo-nazis randomly attacking innocent children, they only do that if the children are brown.

So yes, Neo-Nazis are a problem, they are a danger, there are far too many of them in eastern Germany for anyone's comfort and the government is not doing enough to about it, but the problem is not as bad as the article makes it seem.
 
2012-06-13 05:55:17 AM  
Speaking of Nazis:
angryflower.com

/too many "Nazi's" in this thread
 
2012-06-13 06:03:56 AM  
Whatever makes you feel better. According to history the Nazis and the Reds were allies with mostly the same beliefs. Darn facts, pesky aren't they.

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Ok, thanks for that one.
 
2012-06-13 06:06:42 AM  
/mightbealittledrunk
 
2012-06-13 06:12:44 AM  

Sword and Shield: Uh, the USA isn't a democracy. Nice thought, though.


Wrong. The United States is a democratic republic. It is basic grade school civics and I find it amazing how many grown adults are ignorant of that fact. Since the U.S. doesn't have a monarch it is a republic and since the U.S. has elections it is a democracy. Thus the United States is a democratic republic.

Of course the way states like Florida are trying to disenfranchise voters, the U.S.A. could very well be on a path to losing its democracy part and it isn't "hardcore leftists" doing it, it is mainstream Republicans.
 
2012-06-13 06:29:25 AM  

fusillade762: EvilRacistNaziFascist: because the brainwashed "masses" keep voting for the wrong parties like Republicans, Conservatives, etc

How do you explain people who aren't rich voting for a party that only wants to make rich people richer?


How do you explain people who aren't white voting for a party that only wants to make them a permanent underclass?
 
2012-06-13 06:30:25 AM  

Loki-L: The article blows things a bit out of proportion.

Neo-Nazis are a problem in rural eastern Germany but not really as big a problem as the article makes it appear. Their overall number is relatively small and they are extremely disorganized. Whenever these clowns stage a protest someplace civilized they end up being outnumbered by counterprotestor at least 10 to 1 sometimes 100 to1. If the constitutional protection agency pulled out their agents the whole leadership would probably collapse overnight.

The bit about the woman's son being attacked by neo-nazis also downplays the fact that her son was teenage punk. Punks and neo-nazis tend to violently clash all the time. Most of the time the punks outnumber the neo-nazi assholes, in this case he just had the misfortune of not having the upper hand. It was not a case of neo-nazis randomly attacking innocent children, they only do that if the children are brown.

So yes, Neo-Nazis are a problem, they are a danger, there are far too many of them in eastern Germany for anyone's comfort and the government is not doing enough to about it, but the problem is not as bad as the article makes it seem.


Came here to say more or less exactly this. Well done sir.

Sachsen (Saxony) is germany's poor and backwards part where the majority of the E. German industry was. For 20 years now those cities have been shrinking as the factories were dismantled and the work moved either to high skilled jobs in cities in the west like Stuttgart munich hamburg, or the unskilled labor jobs went further east to Poland and the Czech republicn where labor costs were lower than they were in Germany. One of the biggest mistakes the Germans made economically when they reunified the country was sacrifice economic sense on the altar of political solidarity: the unions and labor associations the govt. etc all made e. german workers get the same amount of hourly pay as western workers. This is all well and good politically and stuff but makes no sense economically when you have a work force which is 20 years behind its counterpart in the west. So, west german companies *did* move east after the wall fell... straight to Poland and Czech republic, since well if youre going to train people from scratch at least do it cheaply.

Anyways the end effect of all this was the former east, with some exceptions, obviously, but basically lost its industry and has been bleeding people since. The good jobs are in the west, so the kids grew up and left. And the ones who are still there are either the bitter pensioners who are too old or the dumbass angry youth who cant go to college and GTFO. So, much like the rural south of the USA, these places are havens for anti foreigner, neo fascist types. I appreciate how closely the germans and the german press keep their eyes on this topic, and it is depressing how much of a persistent problem its been, and has been for 20 years or so now since reunification. But its hardly anything to get super worked up over. The germans aren't going to revert to naziism again anymore than the south of the US will rise again.
 
2012-06-13 06:38:17 AM  

BrassArt: fusillade762: EvilRacistNaziFascist: because the brainwashed "masses" keep voting for the wrong parties like Republicans, Conservatives, etc

How do you explain people who aren't rich voting for a party that only wants to make rich people richer?

How do you explain people who aren't white voting for a party that only wants to make them a permanent underclass?


Because the republicans have also been able to sell themselves as the party which will keep america safe from gays immigrants feminists socialists and other people who want to tear down the fabric of tradional 'merican values.

This is why people who should, theoretically anyways, assuming they were informed enough about things to make good decisions (a whole other topic) be voting democrat (people like truck drivers, machinists, and other laborers) vote republican. Because theyre afraid of the liberal socialist boogieman who's gonna take away their guns and make their daughters date black muslim suicide bombers and give them the ghey AIDS. That the reality of them being stripped of their remaining worker rights, pensions, health care etc... this is not as important.

This is how they get them to vote against their own self interest.
 
2012-06-13 06:51:07 AM  
So, what exactly about the Nazis was particlarly right or left wing?
 
2012-06-13 07:02:16 AM  
cdn4.spiegel.de

What a nice looking young man Nazi piece of sh**.
 
2012-06-13 07:13:24 AM  
It was a great article, but I had no idea something like that could potentially stir up so many loathsome apologist scum trolls from under the rotting log.
 
2012-06-13 07:19:40 AM  
People of every color marching side by side.
Across the fields where a million fascists died.
You're bound to lose...All you fascists bound to lose.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-13 07:22:19 AM  
Gunter, glieben, glauchen, globen......
 
2012-06-13 07:23:02 AM  
Hate, fear & death to outsiders... for the love of god and country. That sounds like a red state to me. I hear they even have a lot of nazis in them (but their houses are not as nice as those in Germany).
 
2012-06-13 07:35:47 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Treize26: Corporate Self: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

I can tell meth is bad without need to try it.

I've never quite sorted out how someone can reconcile accusing an entire people of bigotry.

I've encountered two people on the left who weren't bigots.


The GOP leadership are not bigots. That would be beneath them. However, since the Right only has one true agenda, make the rich richer, so they don't have a large voting base (1%). So, they pander to the self hating religious zealots, the xenophobic rednecks, the senile who hate the world because their brains are rotting and all manner of racists and bigots.

In a similar way, the Left puts up with things like zionism and pedophile hollywood rapists because they are short on cash.
 
2012-06-13 07:36:21 AM  
It's pretty clear that right wingers are acutely aware of their parallels with nazis, hence their desire to get out in front of these threads and declare that the nazis were "leftists". (A word they've rendered utterly meaningless)

Nobody really buys it. The thing I don't get about these racist supremacist types is that they won't own it. They're clearly proud of their crooked ideology, but they feel this need to wear a mask like they're nice guys.
 
2012-06-13 07:43:48 AM  

Cid_Highwind: So, what exactly about the Nazis was particlarly right or left wing?


Fear as the primary means of political control: - Right.

The excessive use of force against it's own people: - Right.

Crippling the many to hold up the elite few: - Right

Setting people against each other with racist, sexist hate speech: - Right
 
2012-06-13 07:48:19 AM  

hitlersbrain: Cid_Highwind: So, what exactly about the Nazis was particlarly right or left wing?

Fear as the primary means of political control: - Right.

The excessive use of force against it's own people: - Right.

Crippling the many to hold up the elite few: - Right

Setting people against each other with racist, sexist hate speech: - Right


Huh. Who would have known Communist North Korea was so right wing?
 
2012-06-13 07:48:58 AM  
Wait, wait, wait!
FTA: "She and her husband moved to Geithain 19 years ago. They had lived in Leipzig, some 40 kilometers away"

So my questions are:I think the real questions here are:
Did they live at Number 7, Vincenza Platz?
Did their children attend The Klaus College Gymnazium?
Did they know Rudy Gunter or Clara Scheitz?

If so, I think all the neo-nazis are in big, BIG trouble

/obscure-ish?
 
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