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2012-06-13 01:01:52 AM
Oh for the love of...

Do we have to resurrect Zombie Stalin to bulldoze their asses again?
 
2012-06-13 01:02:07 AM
"Left to thrive in parts of eastern Germany"? The hell are they, feral hogs?
 
2012-06-13 01:02:26 AM
EvilRacistNaziFascist: fusillade762: EvilRacistNaziFascist: because the brainwashed "masses" keep voting for the wrong parties like Republicans, Conservatives, etc

How do you explain people who aren't rich voting for a party that only wants to make rich people richer?

Because things are more complicated than dreamed of in your simplistic analysis. You could just as easily ask of Democratic voters, "how do you explain people who are white voting for a party that routinely awards spoils to favoured minority groups?" See how easy it is to create stereotypes?

My own opinion (as a foreigner) of the Republicans BTW is that they are only marginally less destructive to the economy and society of the US than the Democrats are, but then again I am making this criticism from the perspective of what the mainstream media in its wisdom is pleased to call "the far right". I happen to believe that the US under its current political system is f*cked no matter who wins its elections, because both parties are in favour of spending inconceivably vast amounts of money they cannot possibly repay, while at the same time encouraging (to varying degrees) a multiplicity of mutually- incompatible special interest groups to seek their own advantage at the expense of the country as a whole. On the day when there will finally be no more money to pay off the special interests, the US will collapse under its own weight; but after that it will hopefully be able to rise again as a great country on the strength of its hard work and resources. Let's hope that the collapse and subsequent renewal happen soon.


you spell words funny, foreigner
 
2012-06-13 01:03:17 AM
EvilRacistNaziFascist: The statement on page 5 of the slideshow is interesting: "National socialism can't be elected or begged for. It can only be achieved through the path of revolution." Take away the word "national" and you're left with a remark that anyone on the hard Left -- including those types overrepresented in movements like Occupy Wall Street -- would be proud to stand by.

This is more proof, as if any were needed, that both fascism and communism -- the latter of which frequently calls itself socialism, as in the acronym "USSR" -- are equally inimical to free societies; but in North America we don't have to worry about tiny fringes of neo-Nazis nearly as much as we do about hardcore leftists yearning to make a final end-run around democracy (i.e. because the brainwashed "masses" keep voting for the wrong parties like Republicans, Conservatives, etc.)


This, exactly.
 
2012-06-13 01:03:53 AM
Iczer: "Left to thrive in parts of eastern Germany"? The hell are they, feral hogs?

The author's English was beaten up by skinheads
 
2012-06-13 01:04:11 AM
Nazi crimes happen in parts of Germany other than Saxony, like this nationwide spree. It may have something to do with having been oppressed for all those years by the East Germans; the Wall was called something like the "Fascist Protection Barrier."
 
2012-06-13 01:05:10 AM
RanDomino: EvilRacistNaziFascist
The statement on page 5 of the slideshow is interesting: "National socialism can't be elected or begged for. It can only be achieved through the path of revolution." Take away the word "national" and you're left with a remark that anyone on the hard Left -- including those types overrepresented in movements like Occupy Wall Street -- would be proud to stand by.

This- this is some high-quality trolling right here.


I see you are using "trolling" in the classical Farkian sense of meaning "the formulation of an argument that I cannot possibly hope to refute logically, so my only recourse is to ridicule it and to hope it goes away".
 
2012-06-13 01:07:25 AM
RanDomino: EvilRacistNaziFascist
The statement on page 5 of the slideshow is interesting: "National socialism can't be elected or begged for. It can only be achieved through the path of revolution." Take away the word "national" and you're left with a remark that anyone on the hard Left -- including those types overrepresented in movements like Occupy Wall Street -- would be proud to stand by.

This- this is some high-quality trolling right here.


because anything other than a left wing view = trolling, right?

Welcome to Fark.
 
2012-06-13 01:11:38 AM
skullkrusher: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

come down where, exactly? "The South" is a pretty big place. Or are gross generalizations the only thing people from "The South" are capable of?

The same south CS was generalizing about. Reading comprehension not one of your strong subjects?
 
2012-06-13 01:12:26 AM
AlteredChemical: Oh for the love of...

Do we have to resurrect Zombie Stalin to bulldoze their asses again?


sshhhh, they don't like to be reminded the Russians kicked their ass.
 
2012-06-13 01:12:36 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk
2012-06-12 10:15:55 PM
Is it just me, or do the guns they captured last year appear to be pretty farked up?

/some of them look inoperable to me


They look like guns that were operable in recent memory, but which were stored in a moronic fashion underground. I doubt they'd fire without at least a through cleaning. Perhaps the revolver would. That semi-auto handgun looks farked.

/Sorry 'bout the grammer
//I'm so very drunk on the vodak
 
2012-06-13 01:14:25 AM
Corporate Self: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

I can tell meth is bad without need to try it.


I've never quite sorted out how someone can reconcile accusing an entire people of bigotry.
 
2012-06-13 01:15:49 AM
Paris1127: Nazi crimes happen in parts of Germany other than Saxony, like this nationwide spree. It may have something to do with having been oppressed for all those years by the East Germans; the Wall was called something like the "Fascist Protection Barrier."

Funny story, In the summer of 1989 I was visiting my family in Belfast, including my granny who was a genuine old- school Communist and she and I got into a huge row about the Berlin Wall (still standing at that time, of course); when I asked her why, if the Communist system was superior, they needed to imprison their citizens she furiously replied that the Wall was there to keep the capitalist Westerners out! When I made fun of her for saying such a ridiculous thing she actually physically attacked me, tho' not in a way to do much damage of course -- I was 18 at the time and she was 60ish. She was a crazy old b*tch (tho' God rest her soul for all that), but it has to be said that her response to losing an argument wasn't very much different from that of the more Leftish contributors on Fark.
 
2012-06-13 01:17:44 AM
Treize26: Corporate Self: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

I can tell meth is bad without need to try it.

I've never quite sorted out how someone can reconcile accusing an entire people of bigotry.


I think stupidity plays a big role
 
2012-06-13 01:18:11 AM
Who runs the Federation of Planets? I bet it's a French black man with German roots and pointed ears. Its the end of the world as we know it.
 
2012-06-13 01:18:36 AM
Treize26: Corporate Self: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

I can tell meth is bad without need to try it.

I've never quite sorted out how someone can reconcile accusing an entire people of bigotry.


I've encountered two people on the left who weren't bigots.
 
2012-06-13 01:18:48 AM
here we go again
 
2012-06-13 01:20:37 AM
timujin: She and her husband moved to Geithain 19 years ago. They had lived in Leipzig, some 40 kilometers away, but had wanted their children to grow up in a safer environment, away from criminality and drugs, far from the dangers of the big city.

"Far from the dangers"? 25 miles is "far"?.


Europe: 100 miles is a very long distance.
America: 100 years is a very long time.
 
2012-06-13 01:21:52 AM
Treize26: Corporate Self: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

I can tell meth is bad without need to try it.

I've never quite sorted out how someone can reconcile accusing an entire people of bigotry.

Ignorance I guess. Maybe they are just trying to be ITGs and impress everyone on Fark by how they can kick an easy target. Perhaps their life sucks to the point that it makes them feel better by putting a large group of others down. Is there really anywhere in the US you can live without being labeled as something condescending?
 
2012-06-13 01:30:18 AM
Dixie_Wrecked: skullkrusher: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

come down where, exactly? "The South" is a pretty big place. Or are gross generalizations the only thing people from "The South" are capable of?

The same south CS was generalizing about. Reading comprehension not one of your strong subjects?


I was born and raised in the South, and despite there being a lot of cool people there, you still have quite a few close minded people who are strong with the derp.

/The South
//Not racist
///But #1 with racists
 
2012-06-13 01:36:39 AM
Dixie_Wrecked: skullkrusher: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

come down where, exactly? "The South" is a pretty big place. Or are gross generalizations the only thing people from "The South" are capable of?

The same south CS was generalizing about. Reading comprehension not one of your strong subjects?


actually I misunderstood your point. My apologies. However, if reading comprehension were one of your strong subjects, you would have been able to tell I was agreeing with you ;)

/beer and whiskey
//wife and baby are away
///cut me some slack, Jethro
 
2012-06-13 01:38:09 AM
I am reminded of a talk show I saw on television perhaps thirty years ago. The host had on three different Neo-Nazis. All were all asked what they would do if each came to power. The first one was a skinhead with a "White Power" t-shirt, He said he would send the Jews to Israel and the blacks to Africa. The second, some lunatic wearing what he must have imagined was a homemade stormtrooper uniform, said he would kill the blacks and nuke Israel. The third one was an older man in a charcoal-grey, pinstripe three-piece suit, with a tiny Nazi Party pin on one lapel. He said the first thing he would do would be to kill the other two idiots, because they were an embarrassment to National Socialism.
The host said later that the third man scared him...
Personally, I would expect that any serious revival of National Socialism would include exterminating these criminal imbeciles. The only way for them to maintain order would be to eliminate the crazies in their own ranks.
 
2012-06-13 01:41:47 AM
German authorities had for years been unaware of the existence of a far-right terrorist cell calling itself the "National Socialist Underground"

You were right there all the time, but we did Nazi U.
 
2012-06-13 01:43:14 AM
skullkrusher: Dixie_Wrecked: skullkrusher: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

come down where, exactly? "The South" is a pretty big place. Or are gross generalizations the only thing people from "The South" are capable of?

The same south CS was generalizing about. Reading comprehension not one of your strong subjects?

actually I misunderstood your point. My apologies. However, if reading comprehension were one of your strong subjects, you would have been able to tell I was agreeing with you ;)

/beer and whiskey
//wife and baby are away
///cut me some slack, Jethro

np. I'm just a little grumpy that I didn't get my whiskey tonight.
 
2012-06-13 01:46:06 AM
Dixie_Wrecked: np. I'm just a little grumpy that I didn't get my whiskey tonight.

it's not too late...
 
2012-06-13 01:46:18 AM
img72.imageshack.us

Nah, nah, nah, gonna have a good time.

/well maybe not in Eastern Germany
 
2012-06-13 01:46:39 AM
Meh. Bring in the Russians for some mass rapes. Its the only way to be sure
 
2012-06-13 01:47:16 AM
Has anyone seen Kyle?
 
2012-06-13 01:47:53 AM
Gulper Eel: Hey, we still have troops stationed in Germany. Can't we do a little Dresden re-enactment thing on these punks?

The very next time I see an article on Fark detailing crimes against Palestinians by Israelis, I'll say, "Can't we do a little Auschwitz re-enactment thing on these punks?" I will be very curious as to whether I get permanently banned.
 
2012-06-13 01:58:26 AM
Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".


I thought it was called "New England".
 
2012-06-13 01:58:38 AM
GentlemanJ: I am reminded of a talk show I saw on television perhaps thirty years ago. The host had on three different Neo-Nazis. All were all asked what they would do if each came to power. The first one was a skinhead with a "White Power" t-shirt, He said he would send the Jews to Israel and the blacks to Africa. The second, some lunatic wearing what he must have imagined was a homemade stormtrooper uniform, said he would kill the blacks and nuke Israel. The third one was an older man in a charcoal-grey, pinstripe three-piece suit, with a tiny Nazi Party pin on one lapel. He said the first thing he would do would be to kill the other two idiots, because they were an embarrassment to National Socialism.
The host said later that the third man scared him...
Personally, I would expect that any serious revival of National Socialism would include exterminating these criminal imbeciles. The only way for them to maintain order would be to eliminate the crazies in their own ranks.


This is why European Nazism is much worse than it is in the New World. Our Nazis are inbred, braindead hicks; European Nazis are often businessmen and highly educated people. European Nazis can fark up much of the world with a serious attempt to conquer it. Our Nazis are happy if they can conquer a triple cheeseburger.
 
2012-06-13 02:00:12 AM
You don't have to go to East Germany to see that....you just have to go to Leavenworth, WA.
 
2012-06-13 02:06:28 AM
GentlemanJ: I am reminded of a talk show I saw on television perhaps thirty years ago. The host had on three different Neo-Nazis. All were all asked what they would do if each came to power. The first one was a skinhead with a "White Power" t-shirt, He said he would send the Jews to Israel and the blacks to Africa. The second, some lunatic wearing what he must have imagined was a homemade stormtrooper uniform, said he would kill the blacks and nuke Israel. The third one was an older man in a charcoal-grey, pinstripe three-piece suit, with a tiny Nazi Party pin on one lapel. He said the first thing he would do would be to kill the other two idiots, because they were an embarrassment to National Socialism.

Was it not the Prophet Jello Biafra who said: "In a real Fourth Reich, you'll be the first to go?" Wise words, indeed.
 
2012-06-13 02:09:41 AM
EvilRacistNaziFascist: The statement on page 5 of the slideshow is interesting: "National socialism can't be elected or begged for. It can only be achieved through the path of revolution." Take away the word "national" and you're left with a remark that anyone on the hard Left -- including those types overrepresented in movements like Occupy Wall Street -- would be proud to stand by.

This is more proof, as if any were needed, that both fascism and communism -- the latter of which frequently calls itself socialism, as in the acronym "USSR" -- are equally inimical to free societies; but in North America we don't have to worry about tiny fringes of neo-Nazis nearly as much as we do about hardcore leftists yearning to make a final end-run around democracy (i.e. because the brainwashed "masses" keep voting for the wrong parties like Republicans, Conservatives, etc.)


It boggles the mind that people actually believe the kind of crap you just spouted.
 
2012-06-13 02:09:57 AM
They should move to Washington D.C. They'd blend in so well, nobody would notice them.
 
2012-06-13 02:13:03 AM
www.wechselwild.com

Oblig?
NSFWLanguage

/not safe for...wimps!
 
2012-06-13 02:14:18 AM
skullkrusher: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

come down where, exactly? "The South" is a pretty big place. Or are gross generalizations the only thing people from "The South" are capable of?


A teaspoon of sewage in a barrel of wine still makes it sewage no matter the size of the barrel.
 
2012-06-13 02:15:01 AM
some_beer_drinker: voodoomedic: Please pardon my ignorance of modern Nazi philosophy, but being a blue-eyed American, would I be subject to harassment/abuse if I lived in this part of Germany? I mean, I'm a foreigner, speak no German, have no German roots, etc
/serious, though meaningless, question

yes, because nazi's are really just nationalists. they hate anyone who isn't them.


www.nndb.com
"You're either with us, or with the terrorists."
 
2012-06-13 02:16:09 AM
FTA: He works to support the zoo, and together with others from his party organizes soccer tournaments and camps where kids can hike around the countryside in military uniforms.

An animal lover who promotes health and athletisism as well as an organized youth movement.

I see no parallel to anything.
 
2012-06-13 02:17:15 AM
Medic Zero: EvilRacistNaziFascist: The statement on page 5 of the slideshow is interesting: "National socialism can't be elected or begged for. It can only be achieved through the path of revolution." Take away the word "national" and you're left with a remark that anyone on the hard Left -- including those types overrepresented in movements like Occupy Wall Street -- would be proud to stand by.

This is more proof, as if any were needed, that both fascism and communism -- the latter of which frequently calls itself socialism, as in the acronym "USSR" -- are equally inimical to free societies; but in North America we don't have to worry about tiny fringes of neo-Nazis nearly as much as we do about hardcore leftists yearning to make a final end-run around democracy (i.e. because the brainwashed "masses" keep voting for the wrong parties like Republicans, Conservatives, etc.)

It boggles the mind that people actually believe the kind of crap you just spouted.


Another well-thought-out, elaborate, and intricately reasoned rebuttal from the Left. Do you people have anything other than snark and insults to offer? I ask in all sincerity.
 
2012-06-13 02:19:49 AM
Mad_Radhu: Dixie_Wrecked: skullkrusher: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

come down where, exactly? "The South" is a pretty big place. Or are gross generalizations the only thing people from "The South" are capable of?

The same south CS was generalizing about. Reading comprehension not one of your strong subjects?

I was born and raised in the South, and despite there being a lot of cool people there, you still have quite a few close minded people who are strong with the derp.

/The South
//Not racist
///But #1 with racists


I was an Army brat and lived all over the country, including the south. People in the north (or east or west) are just as racist, they just aren't as open about it.
 
2012-06-13 02:21:48 AM
EvilRacistNaziFascist:

Damn, I should have refreshed. I love DK & Jello Biafra.

But I really love pick slides more...
 
2012-06-13 02:22:06 AM
EvilRacistNaziFascist: Medic Zero: EvilRacistNaziFascist: The statement on page 5 of the slideshow is interesting: "National socialism can't be elected or begged for. It can only be achieved through the path of revolution." Take away the word "national" and you're left with a remark that anyone on the hard Left -- including those types overrepresented in movements like Occupy Wall Street -- would be proud to stand by.

This is more proof, as if any were needed, that both fascism and communism -- the latter of which frequently calls itself socialism, as in the acronym "USSR" -- are equally inimical to free societies; but in North America we don't have to worry about tiny fringes of neo-Nazis nearly as much as we do about hardcore leftists yearning to make a final end-run around democracy (i.e. because the brainwashed "masses" keep voting for the wrong parties like Republicans, Conservatives, etc.)

It boggles the mind that people actually believe the kind of crap you just spouted.

Another well-thought-out, elaborate, and intricately reasoned rebuttal from the Left. Do you people have anything other than snark and insults to offer? I ask in all sincerity.


we keep patchouli sales up?
 
2012-06-13 02:22:14 AM
skullkrusher: Treize26: Corporate Self: Dixie_Wrecked: Corporate Self: In America, we have a term for areas where our backward inbred racist rural simpletons of our society gather ...

We call it "The South".

Come on down here and live for a while and maybe you'll figure it out. Or you can just stay and live in your little snow globe world.

I can tell meth is bad without need to try it.

I've never quite sorted out how someone can reconcile accusing an entire people of bigotry.

I think stupidity plays a big role


And forming one's opinion based on TV and the movies. They never show southern brain surgeons or Shakespearean actors, only toothless hayseeds.
 
2012-06-13 02:24:06 AM
DrPainMD: [www.nndb.com image 243x307]
"You're either with us, or with the terrorists."


Or, from the other side of the political spectrum:

www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk

"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem."

/link is hot, like the undeserved shame of the women raped by Eldridge Cleaver
 
2012-06-13 02:31:30 AM
Probably the most amusing and disturbing aspect of the last couple of years is Tea Partiers calling Democrats and various liberally-inclined folks "Nazis" when back on Planet Reality, National Socialism is nothing but a right-wing movement.

Of course realizing that for some morans would require increasing their wordiness by orders of magnitude.
 
2012-06-13 02:37:20 AM
SmitetheRighteous: Probably the most amusing and disturbing aspect of the last couple of years is Tea Partiers calling Democrats and various liberally-inclined folks "Nazis" when back on Planet Reality, National Socialism is nothing but a right-wing movement.

Of course realizing that for some morans would require increasing their wordiness by orders of magnitude.


Eh, as a right-winger I would agree that there's no point in calling leftists "Nazis" when the fact remains that leftists have historically killed far more people than the Nazis ever did (about 80 million vs. 12 million, respectively).
 
2012-06-13 02:38:07 AM
Nazis in Germany bad? Sure, but almost every other country in Europe has a bigger problem with extremists. American militia guys scare me a LOT more than these dumbasses.
 
2012-06-13 02:44:12 AM
YouBWrong: American militia guys scare me a LOT more than these dumbasses.

Of all the many thousands of people murdered every year in the US, how many are the victims of militias?
 
2012-06-13 02:45:43 AM
EvilRacistNaziFascist: The statement on page 5 of the slideshow is interesting: "National socialism can't be elected or begged for. It can only be achieved through the path of revolution." Take away the word "national" and you're left with a remark that anyone on the hard Left -- including those types overrepresented in movements like Occupy Wall Street -- would be proud to stand by.

This is more proof, as if any were needed, that both fascism and communism -- the latter of which frequently calls itself socialism, as in the acronym "USSR" -- are equally inimical to free societies; but in North America we don't have to worry about tiny fringes of neo-Nazis nearly as much as we do about hardcore leftists yearning to make a final end-run around democracy (i.e. because the brainwashed "masses" keep voting for the wrong parties like Republicans, Conservatives, etc.)


Regarding the first paragraph: your argument is pretty much tautological. Of course someone who identifies as "hard left" would support that statement. But I don't see a lot of evidence that this is any more or less prevalent than any similar statements made by the other end of the political spectrum. Nor, in fact, that such hard lefties (overrepped in OWS or no) are endangering the fabric of society in any meaningful way. My point being, of course, that there are nut jobs at both extremes.

Nor have I seen much evidence that any "harcore leftists" are making any headway at all in your feared "final end-run around democracy."

So it's not that I am trying to refute your arguments...you have your political opinions that I disagree with but respect nonetheless...but I also don't see that they amount to anything to worry about, at all.
 
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