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2012-06-12 04:06:33 PM  
Georgia.

Was hoping for Texass, darn it.
 
2012-06-12 04:07:17 PM  
So "I have no idea" is no longer socially acceptable?
 
2012-06-12 04:13:09 PM  
What's with the "Amusing" tag?
 
2012-06-12 04:27:08 PM  
Maybe the man asking directions was black looked like a scary scary robber.
 
2012-06-12 04:37:57 PM  
doubleplusgoodgames.com
"You just keep right on driving."
 
2012-06-12 04:42:14 PM  
STAND YOUR GROUND
 
2012-06-12 04:46:03 PM  
See ladies? We're not stubborn or unable to admit we're lost.

We're looking out for your safety when we refuse to ask for directions.
 
2012-06-12 05:01:09 PM  

Mentat: STAND YOUR GROUND


my thoughts exactly...here is a t-shirt for you:

www.awaydaystees.co.uk
 
2012-06-12 05:05:42 PM  
You can't get there from here
 
2012-06-12 05:39:09 PM  
I just need to know how to get to Crenshaw man.
 
2012-06-12 05:39:37 PM  
www.popscreen.com

"Yeah, It's back the way you came"
 
2012-06-12 05:42:22 PM  
What would have been really amusing is if they were both packing and the asker had skinned his smoke wagon as well.
 
2012-06-12 05:42:36 PM  

Calmamity: Maybe the man asking directions was black looked like a scary scary robber.


The dude was lucky he didn't have a hoody on.

"excuse me sir, do you know how to get to fifth street"

"HE'S COMING RIGHT AT ME! blam blam blam, etc."

/shooter may have to reload a couple times
//just to be safe
 
2012-06-12 05:42:44 PM  
I was always told when visiting Chicago if you're in a questionable neighborhood and a person asks you for directions, and you have no idea where he wants to go it's a sure fire way they know you're not from around there, and you may get mugged.
 
2012-06-12 05:46:55 PM  

LeroyBourne: I was always told when visiting Chicago if you're in a questionable neighborhood and a person asks you for directions, and you have no idea where he wants to go it's a sure fire way they know you're not from around there, and you may get mugged.


...or asking what time it is.

/needs 30 cents for the bus, too.
 
2012-06-12 05:51:36 PM  

Yodacat: "Yeah, It's back the way you came"


Came for this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-06-12 05:51:56 PM  
Last time I was asked for directions, it turned out to be a tactic - as soon as I began to speak, the guy pulled out a foot-long knife.

So, yeah, I might just panic if you ask me where Main Street is.
 
2012-06-12 05:52:14 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: You can't get there from here


I've been there, I know the way.
 
2012-06-12 05:52:50 PM  
www.justpictureitnow.com

"BACK OFF!"
 
2012-06-12 05:53:02 PM  

LeroyBourne: I was always told when visiting Chicago if you're in a questionable neighborhood and a person asks you for directions, and you have no idea where he wants to go it's a sure fire way they know you're not from around there, and you may get mugged.


Yeah, this guy doesn't get to use that excuse, according to my Google Powers, Winder, GA has something like 14,000 people. Pretty sure it's not a mugging...
 
2012-06-12 05:53:15 PM  

badLogic: What would have been really amusing is if they were both packing and the asker had skinned his smoke wagon as well.


wellbye.jpg
 
2012-06-12 05:53:37 PM  

LeroyBourne: I was always told when visiting Chicago if you're in a questionable neighborhood and a person asks you for directions, and you have no idea where he wants to go it's a sure fire way they know you're not from around there, and you may get mugged.


Easier and more accurate.
 
2012-06-12 05:53:50 PM  

mama2tnt: Last time I was asked for directions, it turned out to be a tactic - as soon as I began to speak, the guy pulled out a foot-long knife.

So, yeah, I might just panic if you ask me where Main Street is.


It's a town of 14,000, not Detroit.
 
2012-06-12 05:57:59 PM  
This has been my response when someone asked if I had change for a $20, oh and also it was a group of 5-6 teenage black males who witnesses later told me had concealed themselves with the purpose of ambushing me as I walked by. Just saying.
 
2012-06-12 06:01:01 PM  
"no i don't know what farkin' time it is. Do i look like Big farking Ben?" - The Dice Man on god forbid you ask what time it is in Philadelphia
 
2012-06-12 06:01:54 PM  

Mikey1969: LeroyBourne: I was always told when visiting Chicago if you're in a questionable neighborhood and a person asks you for directions, and you have no idea where he wants to go it's a sure fire way they know you're not from around there, and you may get mugged.

Yeah, this guy doesn't get to use that excuse, according to my Google Powers, Winder, GA has something like 14,000 people. Pretty sure it's not a mugging...



Yup, just your garden variety tiny-dicked redneck hoping that a firearm and an unnecessarily belligerent attitude will make up for his intellectual and penile shortcomings.
 
2012-06-12 06:02:11 PM  

j.zero: This has been my response when someone asked if I had change for a $20, oh and also it was a group of 5-6 teenage black males who witnesses later told me had concealed themselves with the purpose of ambushing me as I walked by. Just saying.


Charles Bronson detected.
 
2012-06-12 06:03:22 PM  

Mikey1969: mama2tnt: Last time I was asked for directions, it turned out to be a tactic - as soon as I began to speak, the guy pulled out a foot-long knife.

So, yeah, I might just panic if you ask me where Main Street is.

It's a town of 14,000, not Detroit.


Winder is pronounced with a long I, setting up a local joke:

The sheriff pulls over a car with out-of-state plates and a broken tail light outside Winder. The driver, clearly annoyed, rolls down his window. "Yes, officer?"
"Son, do you know where you are?"
"Winder", the man says, pronouncing it wind-er.
"Naw," says the sheriff. "This here's a winder," tapping the glass with his nightstick. "You're in Winder, boy. Now step out of the car."
 
2012-06-12 06:04:40 PM  
Calmly brandishing guns is subtly effective.

www.gq.com

"Hey, you guys wanna hang out, smoke a b--"

www.imfdb.org

**CLICK-CLACK**

www.zuguide.com


"Oh."
 
2012-06-12 06:08:04 PM  

Mikey1969: LeroyBourne: I was always told when visiting Chicago if you're in a questionable neighborhood and a person asks you for directions, and you have no idea where he wants to go it's a sure fire way they know you're not from around there, and you may get mugged.

Yeah, this guy doesn't get to use that excuse, according to my Google Powers, Winder, GA has something like 14,000 people. Pretty sure it's not a mugging...


Had you bothered to check crime statistics you would have found Winder to have a significantly higher crime rate than the US average
 
2012-06-12 06:08:52 PM  
Also, *ahem*

"An armed society is a polite society."
 
2012-06-12 06:09:03 PM  
And here they told us an armed society was going to be a polite society.

This past week sure has proven that theory wrong, huh?
 
2012-06-12 06:11:23 PM  

mama2tnt: Last time I was asked for directions, it turned out to be a tactic - as soon as I began to speak, the guy pulled out a foot-long knife.

So, yeah, I might just panic if you ask me where Main Street is.


what tactic would that be? why can't he do the same w/o asking for directions?
 
2012-06-12 06:13:09 PM  

LockeOak: Mikey1969: mama2tnt: Last time I was asked for directions, it turned out to be a tactic - as soon as I began to speak, the guy pulled out a foot-long knife.

So, yeah, I might just panic if you ask me where Main Street is.

It's a town of 14,000, not Detroit.

Winder is pronounced with a long I, setting up a local joke:

The sheriff pulls over a car with out-of-state plates and a broken tail light outside Winder. The driver, clearly annoyed, rolls down his window. "Yes, officer?"
"Son, do you know where you are?"
"Winder", the man says, pronouncing it wind-er.
"Naw," says the sheriff. "This here's a winder," tapping the glass with his nightstick. "You're in Winder, boy. Now step out of the car."


LOL, that's both insanely funny and terrifying at the same time. I'll be over in the corner alternatively laughing my ass off and freaking out.
 
2012-06-12 06:14:12 PM  
I like how people ask for directions without even trying to find it and inconvenience the first person they see who is minding their own business jogging with their headphones on. I'm frequently harassed by old people trying to find the emissions test place when it is right down the road with signs everywhere. Look it up ahead of time! I'm not stopping my workout to help you.
 
2012-06-12 06:15:37 PM  

KidneyStone:

Had you bothered to check crime statistics you would have found Winder to have a significantly higher crime rate than the US average


I went to High School in a town twice that size and with actual contingents of Crips and Bloods that had moved to Az from LA. We had gang-based brawls in high school, and still nobody needed to pull out a gun when someone else asked for directions in front of the friggin' Health Dept.
 
2012-06-12 06:19:46 PM  

oukewldave: I like how people ask for directions without even trying to find it and inconvenience the first person they see who is minding their own business jogging with their headphones on. I'm frequently harassed by old people trying to find the emissions test place when it is right down the road with signs everywhere. Look it up ahead of time! I'm not stopping my workout to help you.


Gotta reach that gym in 26 minutes, huh?
 
2012-06-12 06:21:17 PM  
the complainant told an officer with the Winder Police Department that he had asked an unknown white male for directions. The complainant said the stranger then pulled a pistol out of his holster and responded, "No I don't have directions."

ya, and had it been a black guy showing a pistol... the media would make it: "an unknown male"


race is only relevant when it is anti-white
 
2012-06-12 06:23:07 PM  

Mister Pleco: LeroyBourne: I was always told when visiting Chicago if you're in a questionable neighborhood and a person asks you for directions, and you have no idea where he wants to go it's a sure fire way they know you're not from around there, and you may get mugged.

...or asking what time it is.

/needs 30 cents for the bus, too.


I've always noticed that the Chicago hobos are just the meanest too. In other places they'll ask for 90cents and just figure give him the whole buck, who cares. There they'll straight up say 'give me a buck' loudly and with attitude.
 
2012-06-12 06:26:13 PM  
"Pardon, sir, but do you have change for $10,000?"
"Why, yes, just a... wait, this is a trap!"
 
2012-06-12 06:28:36 PM  
Sheeit, in Dayton, that would get you shot.

/If somebody's walking in a bad neighborhood, do not try to get them to stop walking.
//Ever
///I mean it.
//I'm going to count to three.
/You just wait until your father gets home.
 
2012-06-12 06:30:38 PM  

LeroyBourne: I was always told when visiting Chicago if you're in a questionable neighborhood and a person asks you for directions, and you have no idea where he wants to go it's a sure fire way they know you're not from around there, and you may get mugged.


In Chicago, giving people incorrect directions is a form of recreation.
 
2012-06-12 06:30:51 PM  

Gyrfalcon: And here they told us an armed society was going to be a polite society.

This past week sure has proven that theory wrong, huh?


In the same way that having a state entity to license drivers makes us safe on the road.
 
2012-06-12 06:33:53 PM  

Gyrfalcon: And here they told us an armed society was going to be a polite society.

This past week sure has proven that theory wrong, huh?


What was so special that happened in the last week?
 
2012-06-12 06:37:18 PM  
I don't have a problem with people who feel it necessary to bring their toys every place they go. But please understand that most of us don't live in a permanent game of "cops and robbers".

Keep that useless piece of metal in your pants. Adults have shiat to do and changing your diapers every time you feel "threatened" has become tiresome.
 
2012-06-12 06:40:49 PM  

vegasj: the complainant told an officer with the Winder Police Department that he had asked an unknown white male for directions. The complainant said the stranger then pulled a pistol out of his holster and responded, "No I don't have directions."

ya, and had it been a black guy showing a pistol... the media would make it: "an unknown male"


race is only relevant when it is anti-white


....actually had it been a black guy we would've never know because the victim would be dead.
 
2012-06-12 06:40:58 PM  
Asking directions there usually goes something like this...

i471.photobucket.com

Just Sayin
 
2012-06-12 06:44:22 PM  

umad: Gyrfalcon: And here they told us an armed society was going to be a polite society.

This past week sure has proven that theory wrong, huh?

What was so special that happened in the last week?


Oh, I was referring to the guy writing his book on kindness who got shot up in Montana. He was walking along the side of the road or somesuch.
 
2012-06-12 06:47:49 PM  
He broke the Bro Code by asking. He should have his balls cut off, but his woman already has them.
 
2012-06-12 06:50:44 PM  
Dude just didn't want to answer any questions. That's not a crime.

Ok well maybe the whole brandishing thing. But that's a misdemeanor. So there.
 
2012-06-12 06:52:11 PM  

Di Atribe: What's with the "Amusing" tag?


I dunno, the dry way the article was written did actually cause me to giggle a bit.

T.M.S.: Keep that useless piece of metal in your pants.


Brandishing a weapon is already illegal, bud. And, depending on your state, considered a form of assault. You're complaining about something that's already not allowed.
 
2012-06-12 07:00:19 PM  
You people and your intolerance are almost humorous if it weren't so sad. I don't suppose any of you brainiacs could possibly imagine a scenario where this gentleman might have gotten mugged by someone posing as an individual needing directions? You know absolutely nothing about him or about the person asking for directions. You simply assume that the guy is mental because he drew a pistol. Showing a gun is not brandishing. Did the article say he pointed the gun? Nope, he merely pulled it from the holster and probably held it down to his side. He acted properly and the guy calling the police was acting like a puzzy.
 
2012-06-12 07:01:18 PM  

badLogic: What would have been really amusing is if they were both packing and the asker had skinned his smoke wagon as well.


Individually, I know what all these words mean, but strung together this way I have no idea what the fark you are talking about.
 
2012-06-12 07:03:18 PM  

Ashtrey: badLogic: What would have been really amusing is if they were both packing and the asker had skinned his smoke wagon as well.

Individually, I know what all these words mean, but strung together this way I have no idea what the fark you are talking about.


Smoke wagon = gun
Skinned = unholstering the gun
Asker = guy asking directions.

It's not rocket science.
 
2012-06-12 07:07:30 PM  

Terrydatroll: Ashtrey: badLogic: What would have been really amusing is if they were both packing and the asker had skinned his smoke wagon as well.

Individually, I know what all these words mean, but strung together this way I have no idea what the fark you are talking about.

Smoke wagon = gun
Skinned = unholstering the gun
Asker = guy asking directions.

It's not rocket science.


I'm sorry, I don't speak jive.
 
2012-06-12 07:08:40 PM  

Ashtrey: Terrydatroll: Ashtrey: badLogic: What would have been really amusing is if they were both packing and the asker had skinned his smoke wagon as well.

Individually, I know what all these words mean, but strung together this way I have no idea what the fark you are talking about.

Smoke wagon = gun
Skinned = unholstering the gun
Asker = guy asking directions.

It's not rocket science.

I'm sorry, I don't speak jive.


I don't either, but wasn't difficult to figure out. I though it had a cute sort of country flare. Sounded more western than jive.
 
2012-06-12 07:14:01 PM  
Meanwhile in AZ, open carrying seems to be a sure sign that you're a local and gets you asked for directions more. Especially by German and Japanese tourists.
 
2012-06-12 07:16:16 PM  

JesseL: Meanwhile in AZ, open carrying seems to be a sure sign that you're a local and gets you asked for directions more. Especially by German and Japanese tourists.


Open carry means law abiding citizen, or at least a citizen not hindered by a felony. Most people will trust a person with an open carry weapon before they trust a person who may be hiding something.Laws allowing open carry are much better than concealed.
 
2012-06-12 07:23:38 PM  
See where it says "Rib Tip"... naw Fark that, you don't wanna go that way. You gonna go all the way down about half a block and you'll see a Torino with no wheels on it. Now inside that Torino is my cousin Jackie, now you tell him you're my boy and you're lost and he'll make sure you get to where your goin' cause you don't want to know from me man, this ain't even my neighborhood, I'm from the West side of Chicago here on vacation...

I also would have accepted "FARK yo' mama!"
 
2012-06-12 07:25:35 PM  
Came for Chevy Chase. Leaving gratified!

/farkyomama.aiff was the first audio file I ever downloaded.
 
2012-06-12 07:25:36 PM  

Terrydatroll: You people and your intolerance are almost humorous if it weren't so sad. I don't suppose any of you brainiacs could possibly imagine a scenario where this gentleman might have gotten mugged by someone posing as an individual needing directions? You know absolutely nothing about him or about the person asking for directions. You simply assume that the guy is mental because he drew a pistol. Showing a gun is not brandishing. Did the article say he pointed the gun? Nope, he merely pulled it from the holster and probably held it down to his side. He acted properly and the guy calling the police was acting like a puzzy.


I'm assuming you're mental for even making this statement.
 
2012-06-12 07:27:29 PM  

Jim_Callahan:

Brandishing a weapon is already illegal, bud. And, depending on your state, considered a form of assault. You're complaining about something that's already not allowed.


Returning library books late is not allowed. Cutting into the line at Starbucks is not allowed. Pointing a gun at a human being doing you no harm is not allowed.

I think only one of these three activities deserves instant death to the lawbreaker.
 
2012-06-12 07:28:42 PM  
How much you wanna bet the dude asking for directions was black and the man with the gun was (reasonably) concerned that he was about to be victimized)?
 
2012-06-12 07:29:17 PM  

JesseL: Meanwhile in AZ, open carrying seems to be a sure sign that you're a local and gets you asked for directions more. Especially by German and Japanese tourists.


Seems a legitimate assumption, given I'm from two states over and the fact that AZ has permissive open carry is a complete surprise to me. Given that they're essentially run by white-supremacist fascists at this point, I would not have guessed they were that lax on firearms.
 
2012-06-12 07:29:34 PM  

T.M.S.: Jim_Callahan:

Brandishing a weapon is already illegal, bud. And, depending on your state, considered a form of assault. You're complaining about something that's already not allowed.

Returning library books late is not allowed. Cutting into the line at Starbucks is not allowed. Pointing a gun at a human being doing you no harm is not allowed.

I think only one of these three activities deserves instant death to the lawbreaker.


F*ckin' eh. Line jumpers need to die.
 
2012-06-12 07:30:58 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Terrydatroll: You people and your intolerance are almost humorous if it weren't so sad. I don't suppose any of you brainiacs could possibly imagine a scenario where this gentleman might have gotten mugged by someone posing as an individual needing directions? You know absolutely nothing about him or about the person asking for directions. You simply assume that the guy is mental because he drew a pistol. Showing a gun is not brandishing. Did the article say he pointed the gun? Nope, he merely pulled it from the holster and probably held it down to his side. He acted properly and the guy calling the police was acting like a puzzy.

I'm assuming you're mental for even making this statement.


I assume you are a closed minded liberal for even responding in such an ignorant manner.
 
2012-06-12 07:31:30 PM  
Too little information.

Asking for directions/the time/change for a dollar is a time honored "interview" used by thugs before initiating a robbery. The criminal will use the opportunity offered by someone answering the question to close distance and assault the person... otherwise you are on your guard to somebody invading your personal space. I can believe that the person doing the asking may have appeared to be troublesome, or even was actually planning something and called the police to get back at somebody who wouldn't have the kindness to let himself be robbed.

Still, even as one licensed to carry a concealed weapon I know there's folks out there who are looking for trouble and inventing it when they don't find any. I can also believe that the person doing the asking was innocent and the person who pulled the gun was overreacting.

Too little information to be sure.
 
2012-06-12 07:32:17 PM  

AbortionsForAll: How much you wanna bet the dude asking for directions was black and the man with the gun was (reasonably) concerned that he was about to be victimized)?


Don't even try. You may interfere with their righteous indignation causing their heads to explode.
 
2012-06-12 07:33:20 PM  

akula: Too little information.

Asking for directions/the time/change for a dollar is a time honored "interview" used by thugs before initiating a robbery. The criminal will use the opportunity offered by someone answering the question to close distance and assault the person... otherwise you are on your guard to somebody invading your personal space. I can believe that the person doing the asking may have appeared to be troublesome, or even was actually planning something and called the police to get back at somebody who wouldn't have the kindness to let himself be robbed.

Still, even as one licensed to carry a concealed weapon I know there's folks out there who are looking for trouble and inventing it when they don't find any. I can also believe that the person doing the asking was innocent and the person who pulled the gun was overreacting.

Too little information to be sure.


THIS.

And btw: I looked at your profile... I love my Glock 27.
 
2012-06-12 07:40:22 PM  
I came out of a shop and there was a guy standing there looking around at the street signs. He saw me and asked if I knew how to get to some place. So I told him to walk down the street eight blocks, take a left on Smith, walk three blocks, take a right on Washington, and it would be two blocks down from there. He smiled and thanked me enthusiastically and I wished him a good day and told him goodbye and we went on our way.

The only thing was now we were walking down the street right next to each other going the same direction. It might not have been so awkward, but for three blocks we didn't say a word to each other. I started wondering if I should say something or if he should be saying something. Finally after five blocks I just sort of slowed way down and let him get 100 yards or so in front of me. Then I yelled ahead to him, "Don't worry, if you get lost I'll be right here behind you!"

Well that didn't exactly comfort him and he started walking a little faster. And for some reason I was also walking a little faster. We walked like that for almost a full block before he started running.

Now I'm kind of pissed off. I gave this guy good directions and he was acting like a creep. So I started running after him. I didn't know what I was gonna say when I caught him. He was running and I wasn't gaining any ground so I stopped right as he was about to make that left.

I yelled out, "Oh yeah?!?! Running away from me?!?! Well don't forget, I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING!"

/Ben Bailey's story
//The Cash Cab Guy
 
2012-06-12 07:46:56 PM  
Hi I'm a black American. My people's culture glorifies "gangsta" culture and strives to appear bad-ass, threatening, and super-duper hardcore at all times. I get very angry and hurt on a personal level when I approach white people who have been conditioned to unfairly fear me based on their repeatedly being victimized by people who look just like me.

/justice for Trayvon
 
2012-06-12 07:52:35 PM  

T.M.S.: Jim_Callahan:

Brandishing a weapon is already illegal, bud. And, depending on your state, considered a form of assault. You're complaining about something that's already not allowed.

Returning library books late is not allowed. Cutting into the line at Starbucks is not allowed. Pointing a gun at a human being doing you no harm is not allowed.

I think only one of these three activities deserves instant death to the lawbreaker.


So, you're a librarian? Good to know.
 
2012-06-12 07:59:40 PM  

Terrydatroll: You people and your intolerance are almost humorous if it weren't so sad. I don't suppose any of you brainiacs could possibly imagine a scenario where this gentleman might have gotten mugged by someone posing as an individual needing directions? You know absolutely nothing about him or about the person asking for directions. You simply assume that the guy is mental because he drew a pistol. Showing a gun is not brandishing. Did the article say he pointed the gun? Nope, he merely pulled it from the holster and probably held it down to his side. He acted properly and the guy calling the police was acting like a puzzy.


I'd agree with you but I've been to Winder Ga.

i.qkme.me
 
2012-06-12 08:01:21 PM  

AbortionsForAll: Hi I'm a black American. My people's culture glorifies "gangsta" culture and strives to appear bad-ass, threatening, and super-duper hardcore at all times. I get very angry and hurt on a personal level when I approach white people who have been conditioned to unfairly fear me based on their repeatedly being victimized by people who look just like me.

/justice for Trayvon Martyr


(you forgot to pour salt on the wound)
 
2012-06-12 08:11:47 PM  

mama2tnt: Last time I was asked for directions, it turned out to be a tactic - as soon as I began to speak, the guy pulled out a foot-long knife.

So, yeah, I might just panic if you ask me where Main Street is.


Common ploy in Memphis
 
2012-06-12 08:14:54 PM  
Lived in Winder, GA years ago when I was single. Had a party pad near a liquor store. Good times.
Oh and that guy is paranoid.
 
2012-06-12 08:32:55 PM  
 
dwg
2012-06-12 08:40:45 PM  
fark yo mama!
 
2012-06-12 08:43:43 PM  
thechive.files.wordpress.com

/salute
 
2012-06-12 08:50:36 PM  

Terrydatroll: JesseL: Meanwhile in AZ, open carrying seems to be a sure sign that you're a local and gets you asked for directions more. Especially by German and Japanese tourists.

Open carry means law abiding citizen, or at least a citizen not hindered by a felony. Most people will trust a person with an open carry weapon before they trust a person who may be hiding something.Laws allowing open carry are much better than concealed.


==============

Nothing says I'm a scared ass punk like open carry of a firearm. To boot I've never seen anyone open carry who wasn't a complete moron. If decide to become a criminal, guess who I'm going to shoot first?
 
2012-06-12 09:01:02 PM  
As a cop and CPL holder I am of two minds of this. Though to be clear the man who drew the pistol was wrong, acted criminally, and should be arrested./b>

That being said, asking for directions is VERY often part of what is called the "interview". An robber selects and victim who appears to be weak, the approach them with something innocuous in order to close the distance, and to gauge how aware the victim is. Typically this will be asking for a ride, bus fare, help carrying something, and yes, directions. How the victim responds lets the robber know how easy this will be and helps distract them. When the victime looks at their phone to see what time it is, reaches in their pockets for change, etc, that's when the strike happens. Either the robber working alone, or often with a partner out of sight, What happens next can very very brutal and often fatal. This isn't like movies or tv. It's not Joe Chill nervously pointing a gun at Bruce Wayne's parents, or Marshal in "How I Met Your Mother" getting held up in the park. More often than not, the first clue that the victim is being held up is the massive blunt force trauma to the head.

It is VERY smart to be wary of any stranger approaching you on the street and asking you for something. "Don't talk to strangers" isn't just for kids. If you look and act like a soft target, you'll probably lose your phone, money, keys, watch and anything else of value. And maybe your life.

So, reacting with a degree of alarm, wariness, and even aggression to someone asking for directions is actually a very purudent thing to do. As is carrying a conceal pistol.
BUT that should always stop short of drawing your pistol when there is no actual threat yet. Go head and reach under your coat or shirt, give them a stare and say "I can't help you sir, good bye". Let them know that you know what is up. Show them that it's not going to be easy. Make them aware that they might not win this one. But don't break the law yourself. And brandishing a firearm is a crime.
 
2012-06-12 09:01:58 PM  
^ freaking angle brackets.
\Shame on me for checking"Post comment immediately..."
 
2012-06-12 09:04:17 PM  

Fissile: Terrydatroll: JesseL: Meanwhile in AZ, open carrying seems to be a sure sign that you're a local and gets you asked for directions more. Especially by German and Japanese tourists.

Open carry means law abiding citizen, or at least a citizen not hindered by a felony. Most people will trust a person with an open carry weapon before they trust a person who may be hiding something.Laws allowing open carry are much better than concealed.

==============

Nothing says I'm a scared ass punk like open carry of a firearm. To boot I've never seen anyone open carry who wasn't a complete moron. If decide to become a criminal, guess who I'm going to shoot first?


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2012-06-12 09:13:14 PM  

taurusowner: ^ freaking angle brackets.
\Shame on me for checking"Post comment immediately..."


Yep.

What you say is true; but as a single woman who's never carried a gun in my life, I can tell you it's fairly easy to be polite and non-paranoid and also protect yourself. I've been approached for directions, spare change, the time of day, quite often, and I never even made a "reach" movement for my non-existent gun. If they're too close, I will take a step back, if they're asking for money I tell them I don't have any ("sorry" or "not today" works well), and I never approach anyone in a car closer than the curb (I won't step into the street because they "can't hear me").

You don't need to come off like Dirty Harry's calmer brother to just say "Sorry, I can't help you," and keep walking. Now, if they persist, then you probably should get more assertive; but if someone asks you "How do I get to the bus stop?" they probably just want directions to the bus stop.
 
2012-06-12 09:13:43 PM  

Fissile: Nothing says I'm a scared ass punk like open carry of a firearm. To boot I've never seen anyone open carry who wasn't a complete moron. If decide to become a criminal, guess who I'm going to shoot first?


I'm guessing you're not going to shoot the local IDPA champion, who's open carrying that day because it's hot, he's in his own neighborhood and the kids want to play on the playground.

And the reason you're not going to shoot him is that he's been watching you act like an idiot for the preceding couple minutes, eyeballing him, and as soon as he saw you trying to clear your Jennings or Lorcin or Hi-Point (or whatever the hell it is you got from Ray-Ray 'round back of the 7-11) from under your clothes, he's already drawn and put five rounds through your X-ring.
 
2012-06-12 09:16:19 PM  

Gyrfalcon: T.M.S.: Jim_Callahan:

Brandishing a weapon is already illegal, bud. And, depending on your state, considered a form of assault. You're complaining about something that's already not allowed.

Returning library books late is not allowed. Cutting into the line at Starbucks is not allowed. Pointing a gun at a human being doing you no harm is not allowed.

I think only one of these three activities deserves instant death to the lawbreaker.

So, you're a librarian? Good to know.


I am a liber-tarian. When you deny a fellow citizen the right to read "Good Night Moon" in a timely manner you give up all rights bestown by your creator.

It's second amendment time.
 
2012-06-12 09:26:25 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Now, if they persist, then you probably should get more assertive


And you propose to do that HOW?

You state that with proper mindset and awareness a person does not need weapons for defense. Now, I don't doubt you've never been accosted... neither have I. But there's those who have (note the information from the police officer earlier in the thread). This is indeed a common tactic.

If the person asking the question begins to close the distance and you see that little gleam of hatred in his eye, "being assertive" will do bugger-all. Why? Because you're about to get knocked upside the head, and hopefully he'll only take your purse. Your soon to be assailant has not seen any cues that you are anything but the easy pickings you appear to be.

It is cues such as reaching under a shirt/into a pocket/etc. that will give a possible attacker pause- he's watching your hands to see if you might be going for a weapon. He doesn't know what you actually have a gun/knife/etc., but the uncertainty will give him pause.

T'were I approached by a suspicious person asking questions out of the blue, I darn well would put my hand near my weapon. Innocent people wouldn't notice the movement or think it bizarre. People working on being guilty would VERY rapidly find someplace else to be.
 
2012-06-12 09:31:28 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: You can't get there from here


when i read your post, i had to go RTFA to see if it was decatur. left the article disappointed.
 
2012-06-12 09:36:29 PM  

akula: Gyrfalcon: Now, if they persist, then you probably should get more assertive

And you propose to do that HOW?

You state that with proper mindset and awareness a person does not need weapons for defense. Now, I don't doubt you've never been accosted... neither have I. But there's those who have (note the information from the police officer earlier in the thread). This is indeed a common tactic.

If the person asking the question begins to close the distance and you see that little gleam of hatred in his eye, "being assertive" will do bugger-all. Why? Because you're about to get knocked upside the head, and hopefully he'll only take your purse. Your soon to be assailant has not seen any cues that you are anything but the easy pickings you appear to be.

It is cues such as reaching under a shirt/into a pocket/etc. that will give a possible attacker pause- he's watching your hands to see if you might be going for a weapon. He doesn't know what you actually have a gun/knife/etc., but the uncertainty will give him pause.

T'were I approached by a suspicious person asking questions out of the blue, I darn well would put my hand near my weapon. Innocent people wouldn't notice the movement or think it bizarre. People working on being guilty would VERY rapidly find someplace else to be.


I can't speak to everyone else. I spent a certain amount of time developing the mindset needed to spot someone with that hateful gleam in his eye and respond before he ever gets that close. I haven't been accosted because I worked very hard not to look like easy pickings, as you say, BEFORE said assailant ever decides to make me a victim.

Predators don't attack prey that looks like it will be difficult to take down--if you don't look like prey from the outset, you'll never (well, almost never--there's always some fool on bath salts) be approached in the first place.
 
2012-06-12 09:37:15 PM  

plausdeny: Fissile: Nothing says I'm a scared ass punk like open carry of a firearm. To boot I've never seen anyone open carry who wasn't a complete moron. If decide to become a criminal, guess who I'm going to shoot first?

I'm guessing you're not going to shoot the local IDPA champion, who's open carrying that day because it's hot, he's in his own neighborhood and the kids want to play on the playground.

And the reason you're not going to shoot him is that he's been watching you act like an idiot for the preceding couple minutes, eyeballing him, and as soon as he saw you trying to clear your Jennings or Lorcin or Hi-Point (or whatever the hell it is you got from Ray-Ray 'round back of the 7-11) from under your clothes, he's already drawn and put five rounds through your X-ring.


================

Where I live, the police are prohibited from open carry while off duty. There is a reason for that. The local Po-Po have more than a couple of brain cells, unlike the tiny brained hominids that infest your "free" red state that proves how well freedom works by sucking up more federal aid than it provides in tax dollars.

You can spare me your tough guy shiat-talk. I used to belong to the NRA, and I've spent more time than I care to admit at gun ranges. I've seen what the majority of you George Zimmerman type, CCW, tough-guy wannabes are like. Fat morons who wouldn't last one round in the boxing ring with a 12 year old girl.
 
2012-06-12 09:44:55 PM  

taurusowner: As a cop and CPL holder I am of two minds of this. Though to be clear the man who drew the pistol was wrong, acted criminally, and should be arrested./b>

That being said, asking for directions is VERY often part of what is called the "interview". An robber selects and victim who appears to be weak, the approach them with something innocuous in order to close the distance, and to gauge how aware the victim is. Typically this will be asking for a ride, bus fare, help carrying something, and yes, directions. How the victim responds lets the robber know how easy this will be and helps distract them. When the victime looks at their phone to see what time it is, reaches in their pockets for change, etc, that's when the strike happens. Either the robber working alone, or often with a partner out of sight, What happens next can very very brutal and often fatal. This isn't like movies or tv. It's not Joe Chill nervously pointing a gun at Bruce Wayne's parents, or Marshal in "How I Met Your Mother" getting held up in the park. More often than not, the first clue that the victim is being held up is the massive blunt force trauma to the head.

It is VERY smart to be wary of any stranger approaching you on the street and asking you for something. "Don't talk to strangers" isn't just for kids. If you look and act like a soft target, you'll probably lose your phone, money, keys, watch and anything else of value. And maybe your life.

So, reacting with a degree of alarm, wariness, and even aggression to someone asking for directions is actually a very purudent thing to do. As is carrying a conceal pistol.
BUT that should always stop short of drawing your pistol when there is no actual threat yet. Go head and reach under your coat or shirt, give them a stare and say "I can't help you sir, good bye". Let them know that you know what is up. Show them that it's not going to be easy. Make them aware that they might not win this one. But don't break the law yourself. And brandishing ...


I'm assuming you're trolling, but if not...

Bullshiat.

If I said 999,999 times out of a million when someone is asking for directions they want directions, I'd probably be wrong, because it's probably closer to 999,999,999 times out of a billion.

And people posting ridiculous crap like this and other people believing it is what makes our society suck just that much more. So trolling or not, stop it.

Oh, and that handgun you're carrying? It's much more likely to kill you than any robber you're afraid you'll run into. So be careful.
 
2012-06-12 09:46:22 PM  

Fissile: plausdeny: Fissile: Nothing says I'm a scared ass punk like open carry of a firearm. To boot I've never seen anyone open carry who wasn't a complete moron. If decide to become a criminal, guess who I'm going to shoot first?

I'm guessing you're not going to shoot the local IDPA champion, who's open carrying that day because it's hot, he's in his own neighborhood and the kids want to play on the playground.

And the reason you're not going to shoot him is that he's been watching you act like an idiot for the preceding couple minutes, eyeballing him, and as soon as he saw you trying to clear your Jennings or Lorcin or Hi-Point (or whatever the hell it is you got from Ray-Ray 'round back of the 7-11) from under your clothes, he's already drawn and put five rounds through your X-ring.

================

Where I live, the police are prohibited from open carry while off duty. There is a reason for that. The local Po-Po have more than a couple of brain cells, unlike the tiny brained hominids that infest your "free" red state that proves how well freedom works by sucking up more federal aid than it provides in tax dollars.

You can spare me your tough guy shiat-talk. I used to belong to the NRA, and I've spent more time than I care to admit at gun ranges. I've seen what the majority of you George Zimmerman type, CCW, tough-guy wannabes are like. Fat morons who wouldn't last one round in the boxing ring with a 12 year old girl.


Are we talking American girls or European girls?
The American ones are usually pretty chunky so they can hit hard abd take a few hits but they have no endurance.
The European girls are faster with good endurance but since they're so small one good hit is all it should take (British girls don't count) .
 
2012-06-12 09:52:01 PM  

Mikey1969: KidneyStone:

Had you bothered to check crime statistics you would have found Winder to have a significantly higher crime rate than the US average

I went to High School in a town twice that size and with actual contingents of Crips and Bloods that had moved to Az from LA. We had gang-based brawls in high school, and still nobody needed to pull out a gun when someone else asked for directions in front of the friggin' Health Dept.


Well in my high school the lunch lady was really mean to us.

What high school stories have to do with crime in Winder is lost on me
 
2012-06-12 09:55:10 PM  

Fissile: plausdeny: Fissile: Nothing says I'm a scared ass punk like open carry of a firearm. To boot I've never seen anyone open carry who wasn't a complete moron. If decide to become a criminal, guess who I'm going to shoot first?

I'm guessing you're not going to shoot the local IDPA champion, who's open carrying that day because it's hot, he's in his own neighborhood and the kids want to play on the playground.

And the reason you're not going to shoot him is that he's been watching you act like an idiot for the preceding couple minutes, eyeballing him, and as soon as he saw you trying to clear your Jennings or Lorcin or Hi-Point (or whatever the hell it is you got from Ray-Ray 'round back of the 7-11) from under your clothes, he's already drawn and put five rounds through your X-ring.

================

Where I live, the police are prohibited from open carry while off duty. There is a reason for that. The local Po-Po have more than a couple of brain cells, unlike the tiny brained hominids that infest your "free" red state that proves how well freedom works by sucking up more federal aid than it provides in tax dollars.

You can spare me your tough guy shiat-talk. I used to belong to the NRA, and I've spent more time than I care to admit at gun ranges. I've seen what the majority of you George Zimmerman type, CCW, tough-guy wannabes are like. Fat morons who wouldn't last one round in the boxing ring with a 12 year old girl.


I don't OC to be a badass, I do it because there's rarely any reason to bother with concealment.

Considering that crime against open carriers is so rare as to be virtually nonexistent, there's no particular social stigma about it here, and it's legal - just why should I give your ranting any credence whatsoever?
 
2012-06-12 10:06:04 PM  
WTF? Now we are mandating how people are supposed to react when bumbling idiots walk up to them and think they can just waste anyone's time for any good god damned reason? How about people grow a thicker skin. But as stupid as some people are, they need kevlar strength.
 
2012-06-12 10:15:25 PM  

KidneyStone: hat high school stories have to do with crime in Winder is lost on me


Obviously because they didn't work with math very much in your high school. Our city was twice as big as the "crime capitol of the world"(At least according to you), we had actual real gangbangers in our little town in the middle of the desert, and real gang violence, yet nobody, even to this day, has had a gun pulled on them in front of any county buildings merely for asking directions.

In other words, your full of shiat, the crime rate in a town of 14,000 can't be high enough to simulate inner city Detroit or Chicago, no matter how much you want to be "admired" for having survived it.
 
2012-06-12 10:30:08 PM  
If you don't know where you are or where you're going you should be shot.
 
2012-06-12 10:30:25 PM  
Asking for the time/directions is a common tactic of the armed mugger. Maybe that guy had been mugged before and was paranoid about it.
 
2012-06-12 10:31:55 PM  
Amusing in what way, subby?
 
2012-06-12 10:37:31 PM  

Mikey1969: KidneyStone: hat high school stories have to do with crime in Winder is lost on me

Obviously because they didn't work with math very much in your high school. Our city was twice as big as the "crime capitol of the world"(At least according to you), we had actual real gangbangers in our little town in the middle of the desert, and real gang violence, yet nobody, even to this day, has had a gun pulled on them in front of any county buildings merely for asking directions.

In other words, your full of shiat, the crime rate in a town of 14,000 can't be high enough to simulate inner city Detroit or Chicago, no matter how much you want to be "admired" for having survived it.


Good lord. You're just nuts. And angry. And potentially drunk.

I said Winder has a crime rate higher than average for the US. Did your math teachers not teach the difference between average and highest?

Not sure where you get the "survived it" part. Unless you meant the mean lunch lady from high school. She put me through 7 years of hell but I finally graduated and forgot all about her. I've never lived in Winder.
 
2012-06-12 10:42:11 PM  
I once was shown a framing hammer a woman was carrying in her purse when I went to ask if she would like to buy some donuts. So, I know how this guy feels.

/it was just a fund raiser woman.
//she could've just said 'no'
 
2012-06-12 10:46:29 PM  

lack of warmth: I once was shown a framing hammer a woman was carrying in her purse when I went to ask if she would like to buy some donuts. So, I know how this guy feels.

/it was just a fund raiser woman.
//she could've just said 'no'


But instead she opened herself up a little and invited you part ways into her world. I guess she should feel lucky not to have criminal charges pressed against her.
 
2012-06-13 12:30:12 AM  

taurusowner: As a cop and CPL holder I am of two minds of this. Though to be clear the man who drew the pistol was wrong, acted criminally, and should be arrested./b>

That being said, asking for directions is VERY often part of what is called the "interview". An robber selects and victim who appears to be weak, the approach them with something innocuous in order to close the distance, and to gauge how aware the victim is. Typically this will be asking for a ride, bus fare, help carrying something, and yes, directions. How the victim responds lets the robber know how easy this will be and helps distract them. When the victime looks at their phone to see what time it is, reaches in their pockets for change, etc, that's when the strike happens. Either the robber working alone, or often with a partner out of sight, What happens next can very very brutal and often fatal. This isn't like movies or tv. It's not Joe Chill nervously pointing a gun at Bruce Wayne's parents, or Marshal in "How I Met Your Mother" getting held up in the park. More often than not, the first clue that the victim is being held up is the massive blunt force trauma to the head.

It is VERY smart to be wary of any stranger approaching you on the street and asking you for something. "Don't talk to strangers" isn't just for kids. If you look and act like a soft target, you'll probably lose your phone, money, keys, watch and anything else of value. And maybe your life.

So, reacting with a degree of alarm, wariness, and even aggression to someone asking for directions is actually a very purudent thing to do. As is carrying a conceal pistol.
BUT that should always stop short of drawing your pistol when there is no actual threat yet. Go head and reach under your coat or shirt, give them a stare and say "I can't help you sir, good bye". Let them know that you know what is up. Show them that it's not going to be easy. Make them aware that they might not win this one. But don't break the law yourself. And brandishing ...




ALSO, WHEN YOU SEE SOMEONE WITH THEIR HEADLIGHTS OFF... DON"T FLASH YOUR LIGHTS TO LET THEM KNOW. IT"S A GANG INITIATION AND THEY WILL KILL YOU!!!!!

AND DON"T EAT HALLOWEEN CANDY IT HAS RAZOR BLADES IN IT!

AND DEVIL WORSHIPPERS SACRIFICIN BABIES ALLA TIME!!!!

AND THEN HE WOKED UP IN A BATHTUB FULL OF ICE WITHOUT HIS KIDNEYS!!!!
 
2012-06-13 12:48:19 AM  
What does a well known robbery tactic have to do with urban myths? That's like saying leaving your garage door unlocked in the daytime while you're at work is a good way to get burglarized is a myth. Criminals like easy targets, whether the be people or buildings. Some things make one an easy target and criminals look for those things. Some thing makes one a harder target and criminals look for those things too, to avoid them. That's not an urban myth. It happens thousands of times a night all over the country in small towns and big cities.

Select an easy target
Close the distance
Distract the target and make the final attack/don't attack decision
Make your move.

That's how virtually every robbery works. Know this, and know how to avoid it.
 
2012-06-13 01:05:22 AM  

technicolor-misfit: taurusowner: As a cop and CPL holder I am of two minds of this. Though to be clear the man who drew the pistol was wrong, acted criminally, and should be arrested./b>

That being said, asking for directions is VERY often part of what is called the "interview". An robber selects and victim who appears to be weak, the approach them with something innocuous in order to close the distance, and to gauge how aware the victim is. Typically this will be asking for a ride, bus fare, help carrying something, and yes, directions. How the victim responds lets the robber know how easy this will be and helps distract them. When the victime looks at their phone to see what time it is, reaches in their pockets for change, etc, that's when the strike happens. Either the robber working alone, or often with a partner out of sight, What happens next can very very brutal and often fatal. This isn't like movies or tv. It's not Joe Chill nervously pointing a gun at Bruce Wayne's parents, or Marshal in "How I Met Your Mother" getting held up in the park. More often than not, the first clue that the victim is being held up is the massive blunt force trauma to the head.

It is VERY smart to be wary of any stranger approaching you on the street and asking you for something. "Don't talk to strangers" isn't just for kids. If you look and act like a soft target, you'll probably lose your phone, money, keys, watch and anything else of value. And maybe your life.

So, reacting with a degree of alarm, wariness, and even aggression to someone asking for directions is actually a very purudent thing to do. As is carrying a conceal pistol.
BUT that should always stop short of drawing your pistol when there is no actual threat yet. Go head and reach under your coat or shirt, give them a stare and say "I can't help you sir, good bye". Let them know that you know what is up. Show them that it's not going to be easy. Make them aware that they might not win this one. But don't break the law yourself. And brandishing ...



ALSO, WHEN YOU SEE SOMEONE WITH THEIR HEADLIGHTS OFF... DON"T FLASH YOUR LIGHTS TO LET THEM KNOW. IT"S A GANG INITIATION AND THEY WILL KILL YOU!!!!!

AND DON"T EAT HALLOWEEN CANDY IT HAS RAZOR BLADES IN IT!

AND DEVIL WORSHIPPERS SACRIFICIN BABIES ALLA TIME!!!!

AND THEN HE WOKED UP IN A BATHTUB FULL OF ICE WITHOUT HIS KIDNEYS!!!!


You sir are fking dumb. I haven't heard of asking directions used that often but being asked the time, to borrow your cell phone, and change for something are often preludes to a strong-arm robbery. You take out your iPhone to check the time, they snatch it, you stupidly give your phone they run away with it, you take out your wallet, they grab it.

I assumed I was about to be a victim and 'brandished' my m&p; they scattered. Someone did call the police and they talked to me and sent me on my way, they would have done a K9 track because they were having a problem with people getting broken arms ect from the same group but I told them honestly I couldn't ID anyone. I don't give a shiat if I broke the law, it isn't like the guys about to rob me are going to stick around to be victims, and if there isn't a victim there isn't a crime.
 
2012-06-13 01:35:41 AM  

taurusowner: What does a well known robbery tactic have to do with urban myths? That's like saying leaving your garage door unlocked in the daytime while you're at work is a good way to get burglarized is a myth. Criminals like easy targets, whether the be people or buildings. Some things make one an easy target and criminals look for those things. Some thing makes one a harder target and criminals look for those things too, to avoid them. That's not an urban myth. It happens thousands of times a night all over the country in small towns and big cities.

Select an easy target
Close the distance
Distract the target and make the final attack/don't attack decision
Make your move.

That's how virtually every robbery works. Know this, and know how to avoid it.




All of your:

"'Don't talk to strangers' isn't just for kids"

and:

"you'll probably lose your phone, money, keys, watch and anything else of value. And maybe your life"

and:

"Go head and reach under your coat or shirt, give them a stare and say 'I can't help you sir, good bye'"


paranoia is rooted in the same hysteria that allows those ridiculous urban legends to spread.


You know what will "probably" happen if someone asks for directions and you don't act like a belligerent terrified prick to them and instead actually give them directions? They'll say "thank you" and go to the place they were looking for.

Have people ever used directions, time, or some other innocuous pretext to ambush someone? Sure. But it's no excuse for imagining you're living in a Road Warrior movie and acting like a misanthropic tool..

As someone else already said, hysteria like this is why the world sucks. You're not reacting to the world, you're creating it. Making it worse. Creating the illusion that people are lurking around each and every corner all day every day just waiting to get you, and even the simplest request for assistance is most likely an assault on your well-being.

By spreading that sort of baseless paranoia, you're unnecessarily encouraging people to be more mistrustful, isolated, and jaded... encouraging them to irrationally fear and loathe their fellow man.

If you are a cop and you're face to face with the shiatty underbelly and the dirtbags of the world every day, my condolences, sincerely. But it's not the real world. It's only one sliver of it. You're like a proctologist. You've chosen a job which puts you in the company of assholes far more frequently than the norm. It skews your perceptions.
 
2012-06-13 01:53:21 AM  

technicolor-misfit: You know what will "probably" happen if someone asks for directions and you don't act like a belligerent terrified prick to them and instead actually give them directions? They'll say "thank you" and go to the place they were looking for.

Have people ever used directions, time, or some other innocuous pretext to ambush someone? Sure. But it's no excuse for imagining you're living in a Road Warrior movie and acting like a misanthropic tool..

As someone else already said, hysteria like this is why the world sucks. You're not reacting to the world, you're creating it. Making it worse. Creating the illusion that people are lurking around each and every corner all day every day just waiting to get you, and even the simplest request for assistance is most likely an assault on your well-being.

By spreading that sort of baseless paranoia, you're unnecessarily encouraging people to be more mistrustful, isolated, and jaded... encouraging them to irrationally fear and loathe their fellow man.

If you are a cop and you're face to face with the shiatty underbelly and the dirtbags of the world every day, my condolences, sincerely. But it's not the real world. It's only one sliver of it. You're like a proctologist. You've chosen a job which puts you in the company of assholes far more frequently than the norm. It skews your perceptions.



Smart!
 
2012-06-13 02:49:27 AM  

T.M.S.: I don't have a problem with people who feel it necessary to bring their toys every place they go. But please understand that most of us don't live in a permanent game of "cops and robbers".

Keep that useless piece of metal in your pants. Adults have shiat to do and changing your diapers every time you feel "threatened" has become tiresome.


Oh darn... The hoplophobes are at it again.
 
2012-06-13 05:48:45 AM  

jaylectricity: technicolor-misfit: You know what will "probably" happen if someone asks for directions and you don't act like a belligerent terrified prick to them and instead actually give them directions? They'll say "thank you" and go to the place they were looking for.

Have people ever used directions, time, or some other innocuous pretext to ambush someone? Sure. But it's no excuse for imagining you're living in a Road Warrior movie and acting like a misanthropic tool..

As someone else already said, hysteria like this is why the world sucks. You're not reacting to the world, you're creating it. Making it worse. Creating the illusion that people are lurking around each and every corner all day every day just waiting to get you, and even the simplest request for assistance is most likely an assault on your well-being.

By spreading that sort of baseless paranoia, you're unnecessarily encouraging people to be more mistrustful, isolated, and jaded... encouraging them to irrationally fear and loathe their fellow man.

If you are a cop and you're face to face with the shiatty underbelly and the dirtbags of the world every day, my condolences, sincerely. But it's not the real world. It's only one sliver of it. You're like a proctologist. You've chosen a job which puts you in the company of assholes far more frequently than the norm. It skews your perceptions.


Smart!


+1, would admire again.
 
2012-06-13 06:26:29 AM  

vegasj: the complainant told an officer with the Winder Police Department that he had asked an unknown white male for directions. The complainant said the stranger then pulled a pistol out of his holster and responded, "No I don't have directions."

ya, and had it been a black guy showing a pistol... the media would make it: "an unknown male"


race is only relevant when it is anti-white


For a seething racist pussy, you sure are creative.
 
2012-06-13 06:53:14 AM  

vegasj: the complainant told an officer with the Winder Police Department that he had asked an unknown white male for directions. The complainant said the stranger then pulled a pistol out of his holster and responded, "No I don't have directions."

ya, and had it been a black guy showing a pistol... the media would make it: "an unknown male"


race is only relevant when it is anti-white


Oh , you poor, persecuted white male.
 
2012-06-13 08:32:22 AM  

plausdeny: Fissile: Nothing says I'm a scared ass punk like open carry of a firearm. To boot I've never seen anyone open carry who wasn't a complete moron. If decide to become a criminal, guess who I'm going to shoot first?

I'm guessing you're not going to shoot the local IDPA champion, who's open carrying that day because it's hot, he's in his own neighborhood and the kids want to play on the playground.

And the reason you're not going to shoot him is that he's been watching you act like an idiot for the preceding couple minutes, eyeballing him, and as soon as he saw you trying to clear your Jennings or Lorcin or Hi-Point (or whatever the hell it is you got from Ray-Ray 'round back of the 7-11) from under your clothes, he's already drawn and put five rounds through your X-ring.


Pfft...IDPA shooters can't hit an X-ring.
 
2012-06-13 08:58:06 AM  
Hee, hee, I love these stories...as far as my neighbourhood is concerned, the only "incident" if you can call it that happened to me years ago. I was walking to the local mall and a couple of young (14, 15) kids walk up to me and say "Hey man, where's the cash?" and "Yeah, cash, we want cash".

No weapons in evidence, mind you. Just 2 kids demanding money. So I said, "You want cash? Try the bank." and walked on.

Either 2 kids learning crime early, or they needed change for the bus or something. Either way, it was pathetic.

/boring story bro
//love living in Canada
 
2012-06-13 09:58:39 AM  

taurusowner: As a cop and CPL holder I am of two minds of this. Though to be clear the man who drew the pistol was wrong, acted criminally, and should be arrested./b>

So, reacting with a degree of alarm, wariness, and even aggression to someone asking for directions is actually a very purudent thing to do. As is carrying a conceal pistol.
BUT that should always stop short of drawing your pistol when there is no actual threat yet. Go head and reach under your coat or shirt, give them a stare and say "I can't help you sir, good bye". Let them know that you know what is up. Show them that it's not going to be easy. Make them aware that they might not win this one. But don't break the law yourself. And brandishing a firearm is a crime.


Well, what if I were to suddenly develop an itch right where my holster was, and in scratching said itch, I had inadvertenly uncovered my firearm?
 
2012-06-13 10:00:36 AM  

Ed Finnerty: See ladies? We're not stubborn or unable to admit we're lost.

We're looking out for your safety when we refuse to ask for directions.


If you ask for directions and the person doesn't know, sometimes they make something up so as not to appear stupid.

With mapquest, google, GPS, etc, who's asking for directions?
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Years ago, I stopped at a gas station and asked a guy working there for directions. He turned to a large local area map on the wall, must have been 6 by 8 feet, and said, "Where are you now?"
 
2012-06-13 10:12:01 AM  

akula: Gyrfalcon: Now, if they persist, then you probably should get more assertive

And you propose to do that HOW?

You state that with proper mindset and awareness a person does not need weapons for defense. Now, I don't doubt you've never been accosted... neither have I. But there's those who have (note the information from the police officer earlier in the thread). This is indeed a common tactic.

If the person asking the question begins to close the distance and you see that little gleam of hatred in his eye, "being assertive" will do bugger-all. Why? Because you're about to get knocked upside the head, and hopefully he'll only take your purse. Your soon to be assailant has not seen any cues that you are anything but the easy pickings you appear to be.

It is cues such as reaching under a shirt/into a pocket/etc. that will give a possible attacker pause- he's watching your hands to see if you might be going for a weapon. He doesn't know what you actually have a gun/knife/etc., but the uncertainty will give him pause.

T'were I approached by a suspicious person asking questions out of the blue, I darn well would put my hand near my weapon. Innocent people wouldn't notice the movement or think it bizarre. People working on being guilty would VERY rapidly find someplace else to be.


I was at a 7-11 in the middle of Petersburg, VA on a latenight snack run. As I was heading for my car, some scraggely looking black dude (who was wearing sunglasses at 11:45pm) walks up and says "yo, can I talk to you?". I place my hand in my pocket where I have my 9mm derringer (which then makes an audible 'click') and ask 'what?' "Uh...you got 50 cents?" 'No.' "Okay then" and he left.

Maybe he just wanted 50 cents. Maybe I ended up not being robbed/stabbed/shot that night. Who knows.
 
2012-06-13 10:20:21 AM  

jaylectricity: I came out of a shop and there was a guy standing there looking around at the street signs. He saw me and asked if I knew how to get to some place. So I told him to walk down the street eight blocks, take a left on Smith, walk three blocks, take a right on Washington, and it would be two blocks down from there. He smiled and thanked me enthusiastically and I wished him a good day and told him goodbye and we went on our way.

The only thing was now we were walking down the street right next to each other going the same direction. It might not have been so awkward, but for three blocks we didn't say a word to each other. I started wondering if I should say something or if he should be saying something. Finally after five blocks I just sort of slowed way down and let him get 100 yards or so in front of me. Then I yelled ahead to him, "Don't worry, if you get lost I'll be right here behind you!"

Well that didn't exactly comfort him and he started walking a little faster. And for some reason I was also walking a little faster. We walked like that for almost a full block before he started running.

Now I'm kind of pissed off. I gave this guy good directions and he was acting like a creep. So I started running after him. I didn't know what I was gonna say when I caught him. He was running and I wasn't gaining any ground so I stopped right as he was about to make that left.

I yelled out, "Oh yeah?!?! Running away from me?!?! Well don't forget, I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING!"

/Ben Bailey's story
//The Cash Cab Guy


Reminds me of a story some black commedian(?) told:

"I was walking down the street one night, and I glance back to see this huge tattooed black guy behind me, so I start to walk a little faster. I glance back and he's now walking faster. So I walk even faster. I look back and he's keeping pace. So I increase me speed, and he does too. Shiat, I think, this mother farker is after me, so I start running. Then he starts running after me. I am running as fast as I can, and this motherfarker is gaining on me. Finaly I can't go any further, so I stop and turn aroud and yell "What do you what?" The guy stops and says "Nothing! I saw you start running, so I started running too! I was afraid to look back and see what you saw."
 
2012-06-13 10:27:55 AM  

Ashtrey: Terrydatroll: Ashtrey: badLogic: What would have been really amusing is if they were both packing and the asker had skinned his smoke wagon as well.

Individually, I know what all these words mean, but strung together this way I have no idea what the fark you are talking about.

Smoke wagon = gun
Skinned = unholstering the gun
Asker = guy asking directions.

It's not rocket science.

I'm sorry, I don't speak jive.


Someone has never seen Tombstone is my guess

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2012-06-13 11:36:05 AM  

oukewldave: I like how people ask for directions without even trying to find it and inconvenience the first person they see who is minding their own business jogging with their headphones on. I'm frequently harassed by old people trying to find the emissions test place when it is right down the road with signs everywhere. Look it up ahead of time! I'm not stopping my workout to help you.


Yeah, you have to be at the gym in 26 minutes after all.
 
2012-06-13 02:05:52 PM  

MythDragon: Reminds me of a story some black commedian(?) told:

"I was walking down the street one night, and I glance back to see this huge tattooed black guy behind me, so I start to walk a little faster. I glance back and he's now walking faster. So I walk even faster. I look back and he's keeping pace. So I increase me speed, and he does too. Shiat, I think, this mother farker is after me, so I start running. Then he starts running after me. I am running as fast as I can, and this motherfarker is gaining on me. Finaly I can't go any further, so I stop and turn aroud and yell "What do you what?" The guy stops and says "Nothing! I saw you start running, so I started running too! I was afraid to look back and see what you saw."


Another black comedian did a bit about how black people will just start running if other people are running while white people turn around and try to figure out what is going on. Maybe the same guy.
 
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