I live in this county, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

El Paso county is like a Minor League baseball team with all the politicians wanting to be as corrupt as big city politicians, but without the rampant amount of kickbacks coming their way. Since most the county is hardcore Republican, they don't give a shiat when the right wing politicians are overtly corrupt.

We had one city official embezzle hundreds of thousands of dollars from the city, paid for porn with the city credit card, watched it on his work computer in the city capitol building, then left town to go start a NASCAR team in North Carolina. They prevented him from leaving the state and decided to hold him for questioning. After the brouhaha quieted down, he left town with the money and a snarky apology from North Carolina about his wrong doings.

Serious Black: Somebody posted about the Kirby Dick movie Outrage over the weekend. I watched it on Sunday. It's so depressing how self-loathing these guys can be.

I haven't heard of this... What is it?

gingerjet: keylock71: It's funny how the folks who believe it's a choice can never tell you when they chose to be "straight"...

I usually ask them if they held a party and did their mother cry when they made that choice. I never get an answer.

What would it be called? They're not really "Coming out of the closet"... "Coming out of the Turkish bath house", maybe?

tnpir: May I safely presume that Will Perkins still wields tremendous influence over the populace?

Will Perkins as in Perkins Motor Company for Dodge, Chrysler and Jeep? Perhaps, I don't get too involved personally with local politics, but I am brushing elbows weekly with local leaders from the Chamber to other non-profit foundations in town that direct the course of the local politics. There's a lot of minding my P's and Q's around here.

I miss Bob Telmosse, that guy rocked! FotF and New Life Church have more influence than many businessmen in town these days.

Reposted, for relevance:

Top Ten Reasons to Make Gay Marriage Illegal

01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all like many of the principles on which this great country was founded; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of marriages like Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

Leviticus 19:10 And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God.


Which seems to point to Yahweh being down with welfare and assisting folks in need.

Leviticus 19:14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.


Yahweh seems to be down with helping the handicapped too.

Leviticus 19:16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the LORD.


So, apparently, lying and telling tales is not approved of, and that communities should stand together. Not just the pale people or the brown people, but all y'all's people...

Leviticus 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Guess wishing death and terribleness on your neighbors is out too. How many Democrats or Libertarians or Scientologist you think live in your neighborhoods?

Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.


Gee. Love thy neighbor. Nor on the children of your people. Whuddathunkit? Not just hippy-dippy Jesus who put that one forward. Right there in Leviticus. The same book that doesn't like shrimp boils and poly-blends...

And, of course, there is something about immigrants that is completely ignored by the rabid Christian nationalists...

Leviticus 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.

Leviticus 19:34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Does that mean we can end this ridiculousness about trying to repeal the 14th Amendment, since Leviticus was down with that sort of thing LONG before the Founding Fathers or Lincoln?

Or if we have to throw out Leviticus as being outdated, does this mean we can toss out the whole hating the gheys thing too?

You can almost hear the gears grinding and popping in the audience...

Serious Black: keylock71: Serious Black: Somebody posted about the Kirby Dick movie Outrage over the weekend. I watched it on Sunday. It's so depressing how self-loathing these guys can be.

I haven't heard of this... What is it?

Here's the Wikipedia article about the film. Basically it digs into the lives of a bunch of former American politicians who actively campaigned and legislated gainst gay rights while engaging in, ahem, extracurricular activities with other men. I don't remember which one, but at least one of the major targets of the film was recorded on audio calling into a party line asking for a cut and well-hung guy to meet him and have fun with him.

Ah... Thanks for the link!

Looks like an infuriatingly good watch.

Millennium: Le Grand Inquisitor: GAT_00: Ah, the Compassionate Christian, who hates her own son for genetic differences because the representatives of an invisible sky wizard told her too.

Seriously, I'm so sick of all Christians. Bring back the goddamn lions.

Ah the tolerant non-believer, who disparages religious types for being hate-mongers, yet wishes death upon them...gotta love the freedoms this great country gives us

We've also got the "our opponents don't love their children" card being played here; you don't see that one very often anymore.

I'm glad my parents version of love isn't to deny me equal rights. That would be a strange kind of love.

GAT_00: Ah, the Compassionate Christian, who hates her own son for genetic differences because the representatives of an invisible sky wizard told her too.

Seriously, I'm so sick of all Christians. Bring back the goddamn lions.

To be fair, not all Christians are hating on the gheys...



There are a good number of Christian ministries who support marriage equality. Good friend of mine is nearly through the seminary to become a UU minister, and they welcome her and her wife very much. The loud and proudly spiteful, they do get a lot of press, and the press likes to ignore a lot of churches who openly support marriage equality, because it doesn't drive page views like hate, but there are many churches who reject the spite.

hubiestubert: GAT_00: Ah, the Compassionate Christian, who hates her own son for genetic differences because the representatives of an invisible sky wizard told her too.

Seriously, I'm so sick of all Christians. Bring back the goddamn lions.

To be fair, not all Christians are hating on the gheys...

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There are a good number of Christian ministries who support marriage equality. Good friend of mine is nearly through the seminary to become a UU minister, and they welcome her and her wife very much. The loud and proudly spiteful, they do get a lot of press, and the press likes to ignore a lot of churches who openly support marriage equality, because it doesn't drive page views like hate, but there are many churches who reject the spite.

My first reaction from reading that sign would be, "It's a trap!"

Tyrone Slothrop: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Tyrone Slothrop: She just doesn't love the person he actually is.

Citation?

She opposes gay rights.

Seconded: She opposes gay rights. Citation: TFA!

//jesus christ, any sack of inhuman shiat who would discriminate against her own son who DOES NOT have a choice in his sexuality can suffer the business end of a building and gravity.
///i.e., no love lost for sacks of shiat who can't love and treat their kids with respect for their inherent conditions

Another...



There are many ministries who are standing up for marriage equality. It isn't rare, it is often under-reported, which is sad.

hubiestubert: GAT_00: Ah, the Compassionate Christian, who hates her own son for genetic differences because the representatives of an invisible sky wizard told her too.

Seriously, I'm so sick of all Christians. Bring back the goddamn lions.

To be fair, not all Christians are hating on the gheys...

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There are a good number of Christian ministries who support marriage equality. Good friend of mine is nearly through the seminary to become a UU minister, and they welcome her and her wife very much. The loud and proudly spiteful, they do get a lot of press, and the press likes to ignore a lot of churches who openly support marriage equality, because it doesn't drive page views like hate, but there are many churches who reject the spite.

Rejecting the spite != actively, publicly condemning it.

That's what needs to happen. The moderates in Islam and Christianity are MEGA PUSSIES.

Iranoobie: I don't think anyone who has the reproductive capacity to shiat out a gay should be in office. In a proper christian household; you will the gay away. If that doesn't work, you go to a secluded fruity camp to will the gay away. It all leads back to her bad unchristianlike parenting and god gaying up her ungay son as some kind of gay punishment.

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Oh yes, kind of like the relatives who I saw at my brother's wedding for the first time since coming out and who were oh so nice to me but who I know continue to back all sorts of anti-gay groups. I know exactly what they think about gay people and how we're so dangerous that children should be kept from learning about our existence and we should be written out of history books, they made their views quite clear all of the times they flamed me on Facebook over stuff I posted before I came out, but for the sake of family harmony I've got to smile and nod. If it wouldn't upset my mom, I'd like to tell them that they might as well stop being nice to my face and when we all know what they really think.

/My 10 year college reunion next year will be interesting, what with graduating from a conservative school and all

Fuggin Bizzy: NuttierThanEver: Cannot believe no has picked up on the "Non-story over zealous staffer" meme aspect of this story yet

This. However she voted, it was a staffer that forwarded an email that publicly outed her son, not her.

/But that would take R'ing the FA, and we don't do that around here. We jump to conclusions instead.
//You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor...

Actually, if you read the f*cking thread, it was mentioned several times. That being said... regardless of whether or not she outed her son... SHE IS STILL A DUMB, BIGOTED coont.

If she gave a f*ck about her son and his life, she'd abandon her anti-gay stances... or maybe kill herself for being such a two-faced whore for saying she loves her son while actively pursuing ways to skullf*ck his life raw.

Fuggin Bizzy: NuttierThanEver: Cannot believe no has picked up on the "Non-story over zealous staffer" meme aspect of this story yet

This. However she voted, it was a staffer that forwarded an email that publicly outed her son, not her.

/But that would take R'ing the FA, and we don't do that around here. We jump to conclusions instead.
//You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor...

[rant on] Futhermore, don't blame the readers. Blame the admins who keep greening blatantly false headlines. Furthermore, if you're Republicans, blame yourselves for abortions occurring because you think abstinence-only education works when all the data in the god damn f*cking world says you're wrong. [rant off]

3_Butt_Cheeks: patrick767: She hates his sexuality

Where does she claim this?

Tyrone Slothrop: She opposes gay rights

Based on her religious beliefs, she opposes some rights that gays are seeking, yes. This does not diminish the love she has for her son. I am pro gay marriage, and have many friends who are not , based on spiritual beliefs and they love their (1 daughter, 1 son) as much as any other.

"I love you, son / daughter, but I don't want you to be happy because of some bullshiat in a book that some moron on a pulpit takes literally. I would like you to be happy, but I can't think for myself."

Now don't you feel silly?

Fuggin Bizzy: coeyagi: Actually, if you read the f*cking thread, it was mentioned several times. That being said... regardless of whether or not she outed her son... SHE IS STILL A DUMB, BIGOTED coont.

If she gave a f*ck about her son and his life, she'd abandon her anti-gay stances... or maybe kill herself for being such a two-faced whore for saying she loves her son while actively pursuing ways to skullf*ck his life raw.

Oh, it's you. Hi coeyagi.

"Bigots should consider committing suicide," said the non-bigot, without any irony whatsoever.

Well, they should. I am not advocating depriving anyone of their rights, or advocating violence towards them for hateful reasons (i.e., bigotry). I don't hate bigots, because that would be bigoted. I am just saying, without any chance of real efficacy here, that bigots, once they realize the extreme error in their ways, should end their own lives and make the world a better place.

So.. try again?

I wonder if she is a republican or a democrat.
I suppose I should RTFA. But I think I can reasonably guess which.

Fuggin Bizzy: coeyagi: Actually, if you read the f*cking thread, it was mentioned several times. That being said... regardless of whether or not she outed her son... SHE IS STILL A DUMB, BIGOTED coont.

If she gave a f*ck about her son and his life, she'd abandon her anti-gay stances... or maybe kill herself for being such a two-faced whore for saying she loves her son while actively pursuing ways to skullf*ck his life raw.

Oh, it's you. Hi coeyagi.

"Bigots should consider committing suicide," said the non-bigot, without any irony whatsoever.

Furthermore... are you upset that I called you out for being wrong in that you didn't read the thread and realize the issue of Looper not actually outing her son was covered prior to your snarky post? Dude, relax, and stop deflecting.

HellRaisingHoosier: I in no way believe the Representative loves her own son. I believe she has a strong bond with him and cares for him, but I sense no love in her heart.

Because how could love flourish when there is so much hate and sadness.

In my personal experience with this type of cognative parental disonance, the parent says they love their child to convince themselves they're parenting well. These types of phrases aren't meant for the child but are what the parent uses to prove they're good parents.

coeyagi: Blame the admins who keep greening blatantly false headlines.

On Fark!? THE VERY IDEA! This is a serious website for SERIOUS NEWS!