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(BBC)   Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. Make that lots of people in blue, crashing your wedding and wrongly arresting you   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 102
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2012-06-12 01:46:53 PM  
And unlike the U.S., they actually disciplined the officers.
 
2012-06-12 02:02:16 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: And unlike the U.S., they actually disciplined the officers.


displine: You really shouldnt have done that.
officers: meh

I would only be happy with: were fired for being clearly too stupid to be sworn officers.
farking common sense tells you that this is not a clear and present danger and that you can arrest them tomorrow or when they get back from their honeymoon.

FFS, these type of arrests should require sign off from the DA and a judge.
(who knows, maybe they did)

the only way to clear this up would be to raid the officers' houses at 2am with guns drawn and tear gas. arrest the officers and do a full forensic search of their bodies.

/no brains were found
 
2012-06-12 02:21:35 PM  
What's with all the single quotes in article? WTF?
 
2012-06-12 02:25:38 PM  
One thing I would be interested to know is how you can be arrested for having a sham marriage before you have the wedding. Isn't it a bit like shoplifting: it isn't stolen if it hasn't gone out the door yet?
 
2012-06-12 02:25:51 PM  
Well, I for one am extremely glad to have these paragons of virtue in the police force. Who knows what could have happened if these outstanding pinnicles of society hadn't acted quickly and decisively to stop the wedding from happening? When they received the anonymous tip that it was a sham wedding instead of investigating the claim and interviewing friends and family members of the couple they disregarded all illusions of personal safety and waited until the opportune time to arrest these scofflaws at a location they knew they could get them with the least work and highest amount of embarassment for the couple.

I salute you fine individuals for all you do so we don't have to.
 
2012-06-12 02:26:06 PM  

mytdawg: What's with all the single quotes in article? WTF?


Though the US custom is double-quotes, the Brits use singles. But the paragraph spacing--a dozen one-sentecne paragraphs--made that unreadable.
 
2012-06-12 02:26:07 PM  
Why do they need to dress in forensic clothing for suspicion of a sham marriage?

farking pigs.
 
2012-06-12 02:27:04 PM  

XveryYpettyZ: One thing I would be interested to know is how you can be arrested for having a sham marriage before you have the wedding. Isn't it a bit like shoplifting: it isn't stolen if it hasn't gone out the door yet?


I don't know why people think this is the law. You can be detained or arrested for attempting to shoplift whether you make it out the door or not.
 
2012-06-12 02:27:17 PM  
Mr McElwee said his day had started like every other wedding day.

"We were excited and looking forward to getting married.

"We were so happy when we saw each other at the Guildhall.


Didn't he know it's bad luck to see the bride before the wedding? Who would have known that the bad luck would have manifested itself so soon.
 
2012-06-12 02:27:53 PM  
All that based on ana anonymous tip? I smell mother-in-law problems.
 
2012-06-12 02:28:12 PM  
Is there a mural of this yet?
 
2012-06-12 02:30:48 PM  
i492.photobucket.com

Sham wedding?
 
2012-06-12 02:30:51 PM  

Moosecakes: XveryYpettyZ: One thing I would be interested to know is how you can be arrested for having a sham marriage before you have the wedding. Isn't it a bit like shoplifting: it isn't stolen if it hasn't gone out the door yet?

I don't know why people think this is the law. You can be detained or arrested for attempting to shoplift whether you make it out the door or not.


Sure, and then you won't be convicted. Prove that I didn't intend to pay for that. I dare you.
 
2012-06-12 02:31:01 PM  

XveryYpettyZ: One thing I would be interested to know is how you can be arrested for having a sham marriage before you have the wedding. Isn't it a bit like shoplifting: it isn't stolen if it hasn't gone out the door yet?


In America, when you go to get your spouse citizenship they'll be assholes and try to make your marriage look like a sham. You can show up with a giant photo album documenting the past 6 years of your relationship (and all kinds of documents showing joint banking accounts, sharing insurance, etc) and the immigration folks will still be dicks about it. They'll claim you only got married because the foreigner paid you to green card him/her in and be real insulting about it.

/depends to some level on which government official you get and how his day has been going I assume
 
2012-06-12 02:32:31 PM  
"They based the operation in an anonymous tip-off letter.

Also now the happy couple gets to play "Which relative is a racist fark and against interracial marriages?".
 
2012-06-12 02:34:08 PM  

ha-ha-guy: XveryYpettyZ: One thing I would be interested to know is how you can be arrested for having a sham marriage before you have the wedding. Isn't it a bit like shoplifting: it isn't stolen if it hasn't gone out the door yet?

In America, when you go to get your spouse citizenship they'll be assholes and try to make your marriage look like a sham. You can show up with a giant photo album documenting the past 6 years of your relationship (and all kinds of documents showing joint banking accounts, sharing insurance, etc) and the immigration folks will still be dicks about it. They'll claim you only got married because the foreigner paid you to green card him/her in and be real insulting about it.

/depends to some level on which government official you get and how his day has been going I assume


And? Since there is no good reason to get married these days, it seems reasonable to be suspicious of anyone that still wants to do it.
 
2012-06-12 02:34:29 PM  
I'm guessing an angry passive aggressive ex bf dropped the dime. If that's true, gee I wonder why she dumped your sorry ass.
 
2012-06-12 02:34:40 PM  
uh, what the fark is a sham wedding?
 
2012-06-12 02:36:07 PM  

ha-ha-guy: XveryYpettyZ: One thing I would be interested to know is how you can be arrested for having a sham marriage before you have the wedding. Isn't it a bit like shoplifting: it isn't stolen if it hasn't gone out the door yet?

In America, when you go to get your spouse citizenship they'll be assholes and try to make your marriage look like a sham. You can show up with a giant photo album documenting the past 6 years of your relationship (and all kinds of documents showing joint banking accounts, sharing insurance, etc) and the immigration folks will still be dicks about it. They'll claim you only got married because the foreigner paid you to green card him/her in and be real insulting about it.

/depends to some level on which government official you get and how his day has been going I assume


Oh, I know. 2 of my best friends are married to Japanese nationals and even coming from a wealthy country the US is very keen to make sure you prove that you have a legitimate relationship. However, once you get your permission it's not like the local cops come busting into your wedding.
 
2012-06-12 02:37:41 PM  
I've got an anonymous tip that the entire police department is growing weed in their homes. Better bust in guns a-blazin' in the middle of the night...

RightHandOfZod: [...] they disregarded all illusions allusions of personal safety [...]


FTFY
 
2012-06-12 02:39:58 PM  

mytdawg: What's with all the single quotes in article? WTF?


There's always too many singles at weddings. Farking quit being crazy broads and learn to make a damn sammich already.
 
2012-06-12 02:40:42 PM  

XveryYpettyZ: Oh, I know. 2 of my best friends are married to Japanese nationals and even coming from a wealthy country the US is very keen to make sure you prove that you have a legitimate relationship. However, once you get your permission it's not like the local cops come busting into your wedding.


Unless it is the 1940s and the cops need to haul the lovely bride off the camp.

CSB:
I was told after my first interview we needed to come back for a second interview since they thought it was a marriage of connivence. So I did some constructive editing of the photo album. The first 10 pages were photos from the time I spent in the military and the various marksmanship awards I won. The next 5 where photos of me with my person weapons stash.

/in and out in 45 minutes on the second one, with a very polite guy going over the paperwork
 
2012-06-12 02:41:22 PM  

Honest Bender: I've got an anonymous tip that the entire police department is growing weed in their homes. Better bust in guns a-blazin' in the middle of the night...

RightHandOfZod: [...] they disregarded all illusions allusions of personal safety [...]

FTFY


Good point, I guess all illusions of safety were gone a long time ago and now all we're left with is lip service.
 
2012-06-12 02:42:52 PM  

RibbyK: Though the US custom is double-quotes, the Brits use singles. But the paragraph spacing--a dozen one-sentecne paragraphs--made that unreadable.


Ah, that's helpful. And yes, unreadable. All "out-of-context-y".
 
2012-06-12 02:44:01 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: mytdawg: What's with all the single quotes in article? WTF?

There's always too many singles at weddings. Farking quit being crazy broads and learn to make a damn sammich already.


I can only assume you have not been married. They get crazier and you never get the farkin' sammich.
 
2012-06-12 02:44:15 PM  
The cops were just trying to save him from the biggest mistake in his life.... Why were they punished?
 
PJ-
2012-06-12 02:50:15 PM  

Moosecakes: XveryYpettyZ: One thing I would be interested to know is how you can be arrested for having a sham marriage before you have the wedding. Isn't it a bit like shoplifting: it isn't stolen if it hasn't gone out the door yet?

I don't know why people think this is the law. You can be detained or arrested for attempting to shoplift whether you make it out the door or not.


'Sorry, I put that in my pocket because your staff didn't return the carry baskets for me to carry goods around the store before I proceed to checkout. But now that you have made a scene in front of all these people, how are you going to make up for your defamation of my character?'
 
2012-06-12 02:51:45 PM  
(Wedding) papers, citizen.
 
2012-06-12 02:53:04 PM  

XveryYpettyZ: One thing I would be interested to know is how you can be arrested for having a sham marriage before you have the wedding. Isn't it a bit like shoplifting: it isn't stolen if it hasn't gone out the door yet?


Damn time cops.
 
2012-06-12 02:55:59 PM  

RibbyK: mytdawg: What's with all the single quotes in article? WTF?

Though the US custom is double-quotes, the Brits use singles. But the paragraph spacing--a dozen one-sentecne paragraphs--made that unreadable.


That's funny... I'm not able to read the article at all.

Link's busted for me. Someone have a different link, please?
 
2012-06-12 03:01:59 PM  

mytdawg: Smeggy Smurf: mytdawg: What's with all the single quotes in article? WTF?

There's always too many singles at weddings. Farking quit being crazy broads and learn to make a damn sammich already.

I can only assume you have not been married. They get crazier and you never get the farkin' sammich.


And no sex.
 
2012-06-12 03:02:47 PM  
Quite a coincidence that all the plain-clothes cops chose blue...
 
2012-06-12 03:02:53 PM  
"It's like being arraigned on your wedding day..."
 
2012-06-12 03:03:55 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: And unlike the U.S., they actually disciplined the officers.


Also, no innocent people were shot, which makes it highly unlikely to be a US police operation
 
2012-06-12 03:06:49 PM  

mytdawg: Smeggy Smurf: mytdawg: What's with all the single quotes in article? WTF?

There's always too many singles at weddings. Farking quit being crazy broads and learn to make a damn sammich already.

I can only assume you have not been married. They get crazier and you never get the farkin' sammich.


Nope. I'm on my 2nd marriage. The broad is only as crazy and farked up as I am. She makes a pretty good sammich too once I showed her that hot dogs don't count.
 
2012-06-12 03:12:29 PM  

newmilpan: uh, what the fark is a sham wedding?


I was wondering that myself. Why does anyone get legally married other than the legal benefits? What makes some of those marriages "shams" and other "legitimate"?
 
2012-06-12 03:14:01 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Nope. I'm on my 2nd marriage. The broad is only as crazy and farked up as I am. She makes a pretty good sammich too once I showed her that hot dogs don't count.


I've struck out twice and don't really want another at-bat. So to speak...
 
2012-06-12 03:16:37 PM  

Tentacle: mytdawg: Smeggy Smurf: mytdawg: What's with all the single quotes in article? WTF?

There's always too many singles at weddings. Farking quit being crazy broads and learn to make a damn sammich already.

I can only assume you have not been married. They get crazier and you never get the farkin' sammich.

And no sex.


That was consistent for the entire duration of my libido, married or not. Now it's dead and that biatch is still roaming the streets. No justice.
 
2012-06-12 03:20:33 PM  
They did this on the basis of an anonymous tip? Seriously?

A PSNI spokesperson confirmed that as a result of a PONI investigation three police officers were disciplined.

OMG. PONI thread?

What a poni investigator might look like:
ct.fra.bz
 
2012-06-12 03:29:19 PM  

XveryYpettyZ: Moosecakes: XveryYpettyZ: One thing I would be interested to know is how you can be arrested for having a sham marriage before you have the wedding. Isn't it a bit like shoplifting: it isn't stolen if it hasn't gone out the door yet?

I don't know why people think this is the law. You can be detained or arrested for attempting to shoplift whether you make it out the door or not.

Sure, and then you won't be convicted. Prove that I didn't intend to pay for that. I dare you.


"He shoved the merchandise down his pants; and we have him on tape looking around before shoving it down his pants. The defense rests, your Honor."

...and then you go to jail.
 
2012-06-12 03:29:22 PM  
Can you sue the cops in the UK? because this might make for a sweet nest egg.
 
2012-06-12 03:29:59 PM  

ha-ha-guy: "They based the operation in an anonymous tip-off letter.

Also now the happy couple gets to play "Which relative is a racist fark and against interracial marriages?".


Shouldn't be too hard. Those people conveniently found a way to not attend my wedding. The ones that attended anyway still found a way to say something hurtful on the day.

I get the last laugh though, they are all divorced now, and we're still happily married. :-)
 
2012-06-12 03:30:05 PM  
Oh Vince. You and your silly sham-wow weddings. Aren't you tired of being arrested yet?
 
2012-06-12 03:30:51 PM  

newmilpan: uh, what the fark is a sham wedding?


A wedding set up usually for cash, so that one party gets immigration status.
 
2012-06-12 03:31:36 PM  
After Googling PONI (and wading thru all the "did you mean pony" links)
I realized it's Northern Ireland.
I guess they'd take anonymous tips seriously there, but really, without a code word?
 
2012-06-12 03:35:01 PM  

ha-ha-guy: I was told after my first interview we needed to come back for a second interview since they thought it was a marriage of connivence. So I did some constructive editing of the photo album. The first 10 pages were photos from the time I spent in the military and the various marksmanship awards I won. The next 5 where photos of me with my person weapons stash.


So do you actually believe that you somehow threatened a public official by showing him your guns and manly ability? He couldn't possibly have just been a nice guy or didn't care or saw something else in you that the previous interviewer didn't? No not a chance, he was afraid of you and your big bad guns. Do you really believe this? If you do isn't that threatening a federal official? Isn't that a felony?

It's more likely the guy wanted to help out a serviceman or even more likely that he just didn't give a shiat and pushed the papers through because he deals with passive aggressive bullshiat from people like you all day long and has given up.
 
2012-06-12 03:38:27 PM  
Did anyone else read that as PNIS inspectors?
 
2012-06-12 03:41:21 PM  
Would have been much uglier in the US I think.
Here they shoot retired veterans, imagine what they'd do to this couple
 
2012-06-12 03:44:57 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: And unlike the U.S., they actually disciplined the officers.


You think that officers are never disciplined here in the the good old U S of A?

There's a lot more, but I got bored after 45 seconds... Point is, you are completely wrong.
 
PJ-
2012-06-12 03:48:50 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: XveryYpettyZ: Moosecakes: XveryYpettyZ: One thing I would be interested to know is how you can be arrested for having a sham marriage before you have the wedding. Isn't it a bit like shoplifting: it isn't stolen if it hasn't gone out the door yet?

I don't know why people think this is the law. You can be detained or arrested for attempting to shoplift whether you make it out the door or not.

Sure, and then you won't be convicted. Prove that I didn't intend to pay for that. I dare you.

"He shoved the merchandise down his pants; and we have him on tape looking around before shoving it down his pants. The defense rests, your Honor."

...and then you go to jail.


Once again "I put those down my pants because I had no other option in carrying the goods I wanted to purchase around the store. Had your staff did their jobs, and made sure that carrying baskets and push carts available, this whole mess would have been avoided. I didn't think it mattered where I put it, since I was the one purchasing the goods, it's really quite unfortunate that I was never given the chance to bring my goods to the cash. The only reason I looked around was to see if there was anybody who noticed my moves just in case I needed to explain why the goods were going down my pants. But now that we are in court, it will be known by my employer, friends and family that I am a potential thief all because I was never given the chance to reach the register to buy my items. I remember my lawyer saying that I can sue for defamation of character.'

And then I walk free with a nice paid vacation from work as well. There is a reason why every single store waits for thieves to bypass the register before nabbing them.
 
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