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2012-06-12 09:46:02 AM  
6 votes:
"Also Monday, Penn State acknowledged an NBC report about an email exchange between top university officials regarding accusations by assistant coach Mike McQueary that Sandusky raped another victim. Former school president Graham Spanier, ...athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz decided that not alerting the police would be "humane" to Sandusky."


Wow... All to protect some bullshiat "Football dynasty". Bunch of farking assholes.
2012-06-12 11:46:52 AM  
5 votes:

keylock71: Wow... All to protect some bullshiat "Football dynasty". Bunch of farking assholes.


Well, to be fair, that dynasty is worth a lot of money.

Oh, and there's also the part where being in sports is a much more fun and cushy job than, say, road construction or selling insurance.

And also consider the fact that the meathead mouth-breathers who populate the sports industry would be largely unable to find gainful employment in most other fields, except for managing gymnasiums or asking if you need help as you browse the shoe section at Sports Authority.

So, they were protecting more than just a dynasty. They were protecting the piles of money they derived from pleasant, relatively easy jobs that compensated them far beyond any social value they might otherwise have.
2012-06-12 10:22:29 AM  
5 votes:

keylock71: "Also Monday, Penn State acknowledged an NBC report about an email exchange between top university officials regarding accusations by assistant coach Mike McQueary that Sandusky raped another victim. Former school president Graham Spanier, ...athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz decided that not alerting the police would be "humane" to Sandusky."


Wow... All to protect some bullshiat "Football dynasty". Bunch of farking assholes.


Also, these idiots...

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2012-06-12 09:11:19 AM  
5 votes:
Sadly, the way Amendola is handling this case looks ripe for a mistrial based on the fact that he is a bumbling fool. I can't help but think that maybe he is INTENTIONALLY "throwing" the case to make sure it has to be re-tried (and thus forcing all the victims to recount the crimes AGAIN in court)

I wonder...
2012-06-12 08:53:53 AM  
5 votes:
I'm more pissed at the nailers who didn't end this when it started. The assistant coach knew what was going on and did things to protect the kids -- except for going to the police.

Being a rapist/pedophile is bad enough, being in a position to halt the crime and doing nothing is damning.
2012-06-12 01:14:29 PM  
4 votes:

Pick13: farkingnotworking: McQeary could have done the easy thing and kept his mouth shut. He's have his job, his family would be safer, and he'd still be a budding sports hero in his home town. He put that all at risk to do the right thing. Give the guy a farking break.

Really? Farking really? I don't know about you but, if I saw a child being raped I wouldn't turn around and walk out the shower. All McQeary had to do is call the cops (or puch the d-bag) and this whole thing would of have been over with a DECADE ago.


I'm so impressed by all the folks who are sure about what they would do in such a situation. All the people who have, of course, never been in such a situation, who have never had to blow a hole in the environment of reified masculinity they were raised to worship-- all these people are so sure they would do a better job in McQeary's shoes.

My own personal experience in my 44 years of living (looking at myself, and others in some pretty tough situations) is that, when faced with ethical challenges and scary situations, most people are pussies. Most people are not going to do what puts their job at risk, or puts their family at risk, or (and I think this was McQeary's case) puts the very structures of identity upon which they have based their lives at risk. Rather, most people are going to talk themselves out of doing the right thing with rationalizations, self doubt, and hopes that others who are higher up are already taking care of it. It isn't right, but it's what happens--ALL THE TIME. To good people and to bad people. To people just like you.

That McQeary came forward late is a tragedy, but that he did indeed speak up eventually is heroic.

Meanwhile, the more people vilify him, the less likely it is that other people in similar situations are going to risk speaking up.

I realize, however, that being an internet tough guy is really gratifying, and that the adrenalin surge you get from being outraged at others' shortcomings offers a nice high. This is Fark, after all, so you go ahead and massage your self-righteousness with the untested assurance that you would always succeed where many others have failed.

Or you could grow up.
2012-06-12 11:56:12 AM  
4 votes:

TheBlackrose: JerseyTim: Why aren't we talking about the real issue in this case?

Victim testifies Sandusky is gay but papers continue to say he's a pedophile. The coverup never ends.- Catholic League (@CatholicLeague) June 12, 2012

Whoever is the tart behind that account better be careful with where such logic may lead.

/P.S. At the minimum, it ends with Catholicism being absolutely fabulous.


The real Irony being that it was the LACK of Gay men entering the priesthood that caused the pedophilia scandal in the Catholic Church.

Until about the 1950's the Catholic Church had a steady stream of preisthood candidates from large lower and Lower-middle class Irish and Italian families who practiced the "one for God" tradition. As an entree into the middle class, and a college education, with a gauranteed a job at the end that offered "three square meals and no heavy lifting", the Priesthood was a pretty attractive option for a lot of young men, and the church could rigorously screen applicants for psychological and character problems.

After WWII the new middle class prosperity for returning GI's inadvertantly helped dry up this stream of new recruits. However a life of celibacy was fairly attractive to another group of men who were horrifed by their own sexuality and convinced they would burn in hell if they acted on it- IE gay men.

For years the Church closed its eyes to this facet of their stream of otherwise dedicated and reliable recruits (and Why not? The church has long said that BEING gay is not a sin, just acting on it, so they probably saw this as a win-win)

The came the 70's and Being gay was becoming societally accepted and those men no longer felt compelled to hide out in semenaries, and "vocations" began to drop to near-zero. Many of those that WERE signing up we still seeking refuge from thier own sexuality, but now they were pedophiles rather than simply gay. The Church, in many cases knew this from thier psych screenings, but took the men anyway because of the critical shortage of recruits.

The problem was, pedophiles are NOT like gay men. Being gay is just a variant on normal human sexuality. Pedophilia, it is becoming very clear, is a severe mental illness that may have some elements of OCD in it. Pedophiles are almost COMPELLED to offend, over and over again, there does not appear to be any way to cure, or even really moderate their behavior.

The church, too mired in their own disinofrmation, never really understood this, and so had no idea what they unleashed on the church by allowing these men to take holy orders
2012-06-12 11:26:52 AM  
4 votes:
Fark Sandusky, double fark McQueary, and fark the entire Penn State football establishment.
2012-06-12 10:23:36 AM  
4 votes:

keylock71: Wow... All to protect some bullshiat "Football dynasty". Bunch of farking assholes.


That's really what this whole thing is about. It seems crazy to me, and probably anyone on the outside looking in, but I get a sense that football was the entirety of life for many of the people involved. Why not do more? Because football! We can't do anything that might threaten football. It must be protected at all costs.

That's the impression that I get anyway.
2012-06-12 11:40:34 AM  
3 votes:

factoryconnection: That is possible, but similar predators play entire systems of people without millions of dollars and dynasties on the line frequently. It couldn't have helped that there were financial considerations weighing on their minds, and they forgot that not taking decisive, painful action could (and apparently did) keep the window open for more victims to be found and abused.

Somewhat painful then.... no. They waited until "coronary artery rupture" level pain to come around.


The ironic thing is that now it's going to cost them FAR more than it would have to do the right thing up front. If I were JoePa and heard of something like that happening, I would go to the University President, only so he wouldn't be absolutely blindsided by it, and tell him that we're going to be calling the Pennsylvania state police right NOW. Would that have hurt their football program? Sure, it would be quite a black eye, but nothing compared to what it's cost them now. Sometimes damage control means accepting some damage.

I may be way off base here, but it's just the impression that I get, they were far too insulated. It seemed like they all lived in their own little football world and even a crime as serious as rape was something to be `handled' internally. There really are some parallels with the Catholic church who did much the same thing, don't you think? We don't need this bad PR, just `handle' it. Well that appears to work for awhile but when the whole thing gets blown wide open, it's a mess.
2012-06-12 11:24:01 AM  
3 votes:

Optimus Primate: Dollars to doughnuts he takes his life before the end of it all...


This is what I've been thinking. Ok, ok... hoping.

Dude has just always given me the creeps. Much like Benedict XVI.
2012-06-12 11:20:24 AM  
3 votes:

Optimus Primate: Sadly, the way Amendola is handling this case looks ripe for a mistrial based on the fact that he is a bumbling fool. I can't help but think that maybe he is INTENTIONALLY "throwing" the case to make sure it has to be re-tried (and thus forcing all the victims to recount the crimes AGAIN in court)

I wonder...


Victim #4 sounds like he's ready to give that testimony until the day he sees Sandusky locked away. These aren't little kids that can be pushed around any more, and this isn't the culture that blames the victim as much as it used to.

Sandusky is going down in flames... there are more of these guys waiting to pile drive Amendola and the case is already set. The administrative enablers will, too, and need to.

If McQueary's report had been handled by the book after he filed it, this would have ended in March 2002, no matter what he did or failed to do in the Lasch shower room. But it wasn't... something serious will come of that in the Schultz/Curley trial(s).

MisterTweak: But seriously, Sandusky is just one evil, sick, textbook definition of the word 'sociopath'. He wielded homophobia like a surgeon's blade, knowing exactly how much power he had over both innocent children, and, as you mention, some not-nearly-as-innocent hangers-on.


Everything that comes out about Sandusky fits the profile exactly... these predators are not clumsy tiger-traps; they're real-life, systematic abusers. They build up trust, they find exploitable kids with weaknesses and weak family protection, develop a public front all while scouting for more victims in their network. They get it to where not only the kids don't resist but then feel that they can't say anything to anyone... not necessarily out of fear of violence but instead fearing blame and ostracism for ruining "beloved Uncle Chester."

nekom: Why not do more? Because football! We can't do anything that might threaten football. It must be protected at all costs.


That is possible, but similar predators play entire systems of people without millions of dollars and dynasties on the line frequently. It couldn't have helped that there were financial considerations weighing on their minds, and they forgot that not taking decisive, painful action could (and apparently did) keep the window open for more victims to be found and abused.

Somewhat painful then.... no. They waited until "coronary artery rupture" level pain to come around.
2012-06-12 11:19:45 AM  
3 votes:
Also Monday, Penn State acknowledged an NBC report about an email exchange between top university officials regarding accusations by assistant coach Mike McQueary that Sandusky raped another victim. Former school president Graham Spanier, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz decided that not alerting the police would be "humane" to Sandusky.

It's the smoking gun that critics of the university have been waiting for since this scandal broke.


Get ready to open those wallets, alums. They are going to need some serious cash for the coming civil suit.
2012-06-12 11:17:42 AM  
3 votes:
College football and the fanaticism it creates is CREEPY. Heres hoping jerry drops dead.
2012-06-12 09:46:09 AM  
3 votes:

Krymson Tyde: Optimus Primate: Sadly, the way Amendola is handling this case looks ripe for a mistrial based on the fact that he is a bumbling fool. I can't help but think that maybe he is INTENTIONALLY "throwing" the case to make sure it has to be re-tried (and thus forcing all the victims to recount the crimes AGAIN in court)

I wonder...

That sounds both ridiculous and plausible at the same time. Either he's one of the all time worst defense attorneys or he knows he has no shot and he's doing the only thing he can think of to keep his client out of jail.

I find it hard to believe he would intentionally commit career suicide by repeatedly displaying ineptness, but who knows?


What if Sandusky KNOWS he's screwed. His life is over. The only enjoyment he has left is to be able to revisit all of his sensual conquests and "love affairs" (I think he really did love his victims) in the public trial. He wants to hear these stories again and doesn't care one whit about the verdict. As the tales are recounted by the victims, I would bet a LOT of money that he's hiding his wood underneath the defense table and relishing these last moments of satisfaction - knowing he can never have them again.

Dollars to doughnuts he takes his life before the end of it all...
2012-06-12 09:34:35 AM  
3 votes:

lohphat: "nailers"? Wtf? "enablers". frkking autocorrect.


The Tiger Lilies are coming, the Tiger Lilies are coming!

But seriously, Sandusky is just one evil, sick, textbook definition of the word 'sociopath'. He wielded homophobia like a surgeon's blade, knowing exactly how much power he had over both innocent children, and, as you mention, some not-nearly-as-innocent hangers-on.
2012-06-12 09:30:06 AM  
3 votes:
Inept? He's fighting a tank with a toothpick. When all of the facts are stacked against you, even the best lawyer in the world isn't going to have a good day in court. I strongly suspect that Amendola advised his client to take whatever deal he could get from the Commonwealth, but Sandusky insists on fighting it.
2012-06-12 01:45:47 PM  
2 votes:

Pick13: farkingnotworking: McQeary could have done the easy thing and kept his mouth shut. He's have his job, his family would be safer, and he'd still be a budding sports hero in his home town. He put that all at risk to do the right thing. Give the guy a farking break.

Really? Farking really? I don't know about you but, if I saw a child being raped I wouldn't turn around and walk out the shower. All McQeary had to do is call the cops (or puch the d-bag) and this whole thing would of have been over with a DECADE ago.


Yeah, I'd like to think that about myself, too. Unfortunately, that's not what McQueary saw. What he saw was a friend/coach/mentor that he had known as family in a close-knit team environment since childhood, doing something so unconscionable that he panicked.

Imagine yourself in that situation and it's your grandfather in the shower with a kid. If I didn't pass out completely, I am pretty sure I'd be in a dead sprint halfway across campus before my brain even began to sort out what I had just seen.
2012-06-12 12:43:41 PM  
2 votes:
Given the new evidence of coverup by the administration, Penn State football should get the death penalty.
2012-06-12 12:36:58 PM  
2 votes:

steamingpile: fireclown: Fark Sandusky, double fark McQueary, and fark the entire Penn State football establishment.

Why mcqueary? He's the only one who followed up enough to force it to blow up, fark the other assistants who were "suspicious" but did nothing.


This. McQueary isn't perfect, but he is the main reason Sandusky is getting stopped. Serial child abusers are hard to prosecute because it is almost always the victim's word against the perpetrator's word--the crimes are almost never witnessed directly by someone outside of the abuse. McQeary's clear testimony as a third party witness is what gave the other accusers courage to come forward, because the victims know their version of events is going to be corroborated by someone from the outside.

McQueary agreed to testify knowing that he was going to compromise everything he had ever worked for. He's on indefinite leave from his job--a native of State College, he was trained from childhood to want to be a football player and coach. That's probably all gone now. He's had to put his house up for sale. He and his family get death threats daily from people who are mad at him for threatening the Penn State football culture, and death threats from people who think he didn't do enough early enough. And yet his example is teaching a lot of other coaches and administrators about how to take some farking responsibility for the safety of young people in their care. And it is giving victims in sports programs, youth programs and boarding schools the courage to come forward, now that awareness has been raised.

McQeary could have done the easy thing and kept his mouth shut. He's have his job, his family would be safer, and he'd still be a budding sports hero in his home town. He put that all at risk to do the right thing. Give the guy a farking break.
2012-06-12 12:32:18 PM  
2 votes:

fireclown: Fark Sandusky, double fark McQueary, and fark the entire Penn State football establishment.


These are the kind of farking morans we're talking about.

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Burn in Hell, JoePa.

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2012-06-12 11:48:17 AM  
2 votes:
I love this headline, Subbs, because only after thoroughly reading TFA does it make a lick of sense. Sick, twisted, nauseating sense. I want brain washing, but that makes me think of sudds, and showers, and now I'm icky all over again. Well done.

See Jer, the problem with targeting large numbers of weak, submissive children is that chances are at least a couple of them will grow up into strong, assertive adults. HERO tag for this witness.
2012-06-12 11:43:14 AM  
2 votes:
Based on what I read in the grand jury reports, I want his wife to go to jail, too.
2012-06-12 11:33:31 AM  
2 votes:

gilgigamesh: kronicfeld: Inept? He's fighting a tank with a toothpick. When all of the facts are stacked against you, even the best lawyer in the world isn't going to have a good day in court. I strongly suspect that Amendola advised his client to take whatever deal he could get from the Commonwealth, but Sandusky insists on fighting it.

Hoo boy have I been there.

Still, when you're confronted with a witness like that you cut your losses and get him off the stand.


Ya know, my ex's lawyer seemed to be freakin' retarded at his trial. Had the psycho's family wave at the judge from the benches... the whole defense was: "he's bi-polar, poor him, it's not his fault"; goes into this tirade about all the treatment he's done for his mental health during the past 5-6 years, then states that his Physician (yes, his physician was giving him his medication) was SHOCKED that he was so far removed from humanity as to pull the stunt he was on trial for. I just sat there and kept thinking, dude, WTF!

Then, I realized how farked his case was. What with all the pictures, witnesses and emails from the ex in his own words and all.

I couldn't imagine having that job. Defending a scumbag.
2012-06-12 11:31:00 AM  
2 votes:

fireclown: Fark Sandusky, double fark McQueary, and fark the entire Penn State football establishment.


Why does the whistleblower get "double fark" when the actual, no-kidding predator with many victims and decades of abuse get less? If McQueary's report had been handled by management by the rules this would have ended in March 2002. Yeah, he panicked or whatever that made him wait until the next day, and that is bad. However, many many people including parents of victimized kids have done less than he did in the same situations.
2012-06-12 11:26:18 AM  
2 votes:
Now THAT is how articles should be written. Simply riveting.
2012-06-12 11:24:09 AM  
2 votes:
I hope that the assholes who helped cover it up eventually get nailed too. In my opinion, the coverup is almost as bad as the crime itself. It gave him leeway to keep doing what he was doing, and, (god help that there was no bad reflection on the football program), probably made him feel like he could do whatever he wanted, when he wanted, and to who he wanted.

pure assholery..
2012-06-12 11:23:27 AM  
2 votes:
This case just sickens me, and by virtue of where I live, it's all over every news broadcast every day. Just seeing Sandusky's emotionless face leaves me with feelings of rage.

Court of public opinion and all, but I've considered him unquestionably guilty since he did that interview with Costas and was asked if he was sexually attracted to children. Guilty, innocent or otherwise, any right-thinking person wouldn't even hesitate before giving an unqualified, "Hell farking no." Sandusky sat there and "umm'd" and "well'd" and "sexually's" his way through that rambling response.

fark 'em. Let him burn.
2012-06-12 11:21:11 AM  
2 votes:

Apos: Riveting read. You probably could have heard a pin drop in that courtroom,


If you could actually make it through the article. It's just disgusting how horrible Sandusky really was.
2012-06-12 10:49:32 AM  
2 votes:

Krymson Tyde: I find it hard to believe he would intentionally commit career suicide by repeatedly displaying ineptness, but who knows?


He got a 16 year old client pregnant (later married her). If he's willing to risk career suicide by getting a 16 year old client pregnant, what makes you think he wouldn't risk career suicide in this case?
2012-06-12 10:02:22 AM  
2 votes:
Riveting read. You probably could have heard a pin drop in that courtroom,
2012-06-12 09:33:21 AM  
2 votes:
Looks like Sandusky is going to go with the "incompetent representation" appeal route.
2012-06-12 09:29:43 AM  
2 votes:

Optimus Primate: Sadly, the way Amendola is handling this case looks ripe for a mistrial based on the fact that he is a bumbling fool. I can't help but think that maybe he is INTENTIONALLY "throwing" the case to make sure it has to be re-tried (and thus forcing all the victims to recount the crimes AGAIN in court)

I wonder...


That sounds both ridiculous and plausible at the same time. Either he's one of the all time worst defense attorneys or he knows he has no shot and he's doing the only thing he can think of to keep his client out of jail.

I find it hard to believe he would intentionally commit career suicide by repeatedly displaying ineptness, but who knows?
2012-06-12 03:00:23 PM  
1 votes:

Magorn: It was The Church that was blind to this crucial difference, and unleashed the horror we are dealing with today


They should be good at it by now, one would think. Lord knows they've had plenty of practice over the centuries.
2012-06-12 02:45:52 PM  
1 votes:
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2012-06-12 02:29:00 PM  
1 votes:
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2012-06-12 02:22:29 PM  
1 votes:
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R.I.P Tony Amendola
2012-06-12 01:47:40 PM  
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Magorn: The came the 70's and Being gay was becoming societally accepted and those men no longer felt compelled to hide out in semenaries, and "vocations" began to drop to near-zero. Many of those that WERE signing up we still seeking refuge from thier own sexuality, but now they were pedophiles rather than simply gay. The Church, in many cases knew this from thier psych screenings, but took the men anyway because of the critical shortage of recruits.

Wait, what? Seriously?

Am I misreading you, or are you equating homosexuality with pedophilia?

Or are you just saying that people with sexual proclivities out of the norm sought out priesthood?


Oh good god I should have been clearer. The Second, most defintely the second. My argument was that the Church ran on Gay men in the 50's because of the societal/religious disapproval of homosexuality made the priesthood one of the few places a gay man could find a niche in society that was respectable, and didn't require him to construct an elaborate facade to appear "normal". Gay liberation in the 60's and 70's gave gay men the option of living openly and so the celibate route no longer appealed to many of those who would have been drawn to the Church in earlier decade.

By the mid -80's there was almost no one going into the Seminary anymore and many of those that were had serious issues that would have gotten them kicked out before that. Among that group were a large number of pedophiles who either saw the church as a way to get at their victims, or a way to run away from thier sexual urges.

The problem was UNLIKE Gay men, who had served the church very ably in the previous generation; pedophiles are mentally ill, and often not in real control of their sexual urges. It was The Church that was blind to this crucial difference, and unleashed the horror we are dealing with today
2012-06-12 12:38:21 PM  
1 votes:

namegoeshere: desertgeek: And if I'm the prosecution, I put Sandusky up on the stand. Clearly, his own words are the best offense the prosecution has.

It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. You can not be forced to testify at your own trial. The good news is, this yutz is such a textbook narcissist, he will probably insist on testifying in his own defense. He will be convinced that the jury just needs to hear from him to understand that he's really a great guy, and everyone's got it all wrong. I hope to heck his attorney can't stop this. It would be lulzy fun indeed.


After I posted that, I remembered hearing somewhere that the defense was considering putting him on the witness stand. So in cross examination, the prosecution could hammer him. At the minimum, I would play that Costas interview for the jury. If you can't get Sandusky on the stand, get him with his own words anyway.
2012-06-12 12:35:15 PM  
1 votes:

factoryconnection: sleeps in trees: It's sad when someone actually believes the victim because it's like them "no you are not the bad person". I lost my life of 20 years disclosing. Family, friends, etc. left only with my husband and now it is finally comming full circle - 23 years later. Everyone knew but hey, don't rock the boat. Now they are singing like canaries.

Sadly typical victim experience. I'm really sorry for what you've been through.

It was no coincidence that The Second Mile was aimed at helping "at-risk" kids... read "easily exploitable troublemakers that no one would believe." ARRRRGHGHGHGHGH!


Well, it is, although delayed, fun watching the shiat show that is happening. It's also odd that I'm now considered the "sane" one. Thing is, I really don't want any of them around. I like my little life and they sully it with their presence.
2012-06-12 12:29:52 PM  
1 votes:

hartzdog: And what is subby's clever strategy for trying this case?


I have no strategy...I think Sandusky is actually enjoying the trial's ability to let him listen to hours of (his own) child porn every day. I think he regards his defense as a token effort at best, as his prime motivator is not to be exonerated, but to re-live all of his love affairs and sexual adventures as told first-person by the victims. This is his last "big bang" before he eventually kills himself, and he wants to savor every word that comes out of their pretty little mouths.

He's caught...his lawyer has no real options (and is WAY over his head trying to mount this defense - which is pretty obvious). This is just theater...

I suppose if Sandusky really wanted to fight this, he would hire an experienced attorney with years in criminal sexual conduct defense. That would be my strategy, sir. Not a bumbling paper pusher like Amendola.
2012-06-12 12:28:37 PM  
1 votes:
I think there should be an honorary Hero tag here for the victim who walked into courtroom and unleashed a shiatstorm upon the guy who raped him.
2012-06-12 11:58:57 AM  
1 votes:

fireclown: dougermouse: So what happens if he is some how found innocent? Does one of the victims kill him on the steps of the courthouse? Riots in the streets a la OJ? Let us theorize and check back later for accuracy.

I'll play. If he's found innocent, Sandusky will retire. There will be no riots, and he will not be killed or assaulted.


He is still employed by someone that he could retire after the trial? Who the fark is still employing him, even on a unpaid or volunteer basis? Seriously, I'm curious.
2012-06-12 11:55:22 AM  
1 votes:
Sandusky is a hardcore narcissist. He can not comprehend being found guilty. It does not exist as a possibility for him. Even if the rest of the trial follows exactly like this, he will be honestly shocked when he hears a guilty verdict.

The sick, twisted bastard really does believe that he was a good influence in these children's lives. He doesn't get that what he did was wrong. It's why he wrote all the letters. He couldn't understand why the victim wanted to cut ties with him.
2012-06-12 11:55:05 AM  
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: I don't know which threads will be more entertaining, these threads or when all the political fallout comes down from Corbett hiding this case while he was AG.

Bonusgate > Child Rape.


Of course! Selectively prosecuting his political opponents for corruption (while quietly allowing members of his party guilty of the same crimes avoid indictment) showed he's "tough on crime" and gets votes. Going after a respected member of the community with deep ties to a nationally famous state institution doesn't benefit anybody, except finally seeing justice for the victims or to actually fulfill the his office's mission of "Protecting Pennsylvania Families".

If Corbett gets his choice of AG this fall, the facts behind hiding this case will never see the light of day.
2012-06-12 11:50:35 AM  
1 votes:

dletter: Yeah, might be this too. You have a client that you basically know (or feel) like it dead guilty, but, they insist (maybe have themselves convinced in their own mind) that they haven't done anything wrong, so, you have to go forward. From the looks of it, he hasn't even attempted any sort of defense... he's actually said things and allowed witnesses to say things like he is the prosecution.


My brother recently sat in on a negotiation session with one of the senior partners in his firm, the federal prosecutor, and a guy who had been arrested for manufacture and sale of meth. In Missouri (not that it isn't elsewhere) meth is something of a problem, and as such, the authorities generally don't take too kindly to someone with 6 kilos of crystal, 50,000 tablets, and the equipment and facilities to manufacture and distribute it. (whoda thunk?)

The prosecutor came into the room, and asked the guy his name, address, birthday, place of birth, etc. He then tossed a folio of photos on the table, the first of which was the front of the guys' house; the prosecutor asked him to confirm that this was his place of residence; he did. The rest of the photos where like frames from a point and click adventure game, where one click moves you 6 feet forward- next one was at the door, door open, stepping inside, inside view, etc. These photos chronicled his meth manufacturing setup, as well as vast quantities of finished drug. The prosecutor then explained that there was no way he'd win in court, so why not deal? Give up two of your distribution contacts, go into rehab, house arrest for 6 months (or something, detention not in jail) and 5 years of probation with drug tests, home visits, etc.

My brother and his partner were SHOCKED. No jail time, from a FEDERAL case? That never happens, especially with drugs, even more so with this quantity, and doubly more so in Missouri. They strongly advised the client take the deal, as there was NO WAY he'd do better in court.

His response, faced with a life sentence (if convicted), and a mountain of forensic and photographic evidence?

"No way I'm taking the deal. I'm 100% innocent."

He was so convinced of his own innocence, he couldn't see himself any other way, even presented with the cold hard facts.

/he's in jail for a long, long time now
//no, he wasn't really innocent, his distributors gave him up
2012-06-12 11:48:09 AM  
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Sandusky at Paterno's funeral. I can't help but think that Jerry's the reason that JoPa died when he did. Sandusky has caused an incredible amount of hurt in this world. The Karma bus is gonna hit him head on.

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2012-06-12 11:46:07 AM  
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CapeFearCadaver: Optimus Primate: Dollars to doughnuts he takes his life before the end of it all...

This is what I've been thinking. Ok, ok... hoping.

Dude has just always given me the creeps. Much like Benedict XVI.


That guy looks like pure evil ............................................^.
2012-06-12 11:44:18 AM  
1 votes:
This might be a good night to re-watch "sleepers"
2012-06-12 11:39:57 AM  
1 votes:

rorypk: Remember that baby killer down in Florida? Everyone said her lawyer was incompetent too. Maybe you just need to be insane to win cases this high profile.


She got off because there was no real proof the kid was murdered, let alone by her. There's plenty of evidence that some serious pedophilia has taken place at Penn State.
2012-06-12 11:36:38 AM  
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The juror profiles may be Sandusky's saving grace. Link However bad his lawyer is at cross-examination, he's quite good at juror selection.

Juror #7 is a Penn State senior who "works at a Penn State athletic facility and knows Steve Turchetta, the Clinton County high school coach who hired Sandusky as a volunteer assistant. He came to the courthouse wearing a navy T-shirt that read "Penn State archery." His cousin played football at Penn State under Joe Paterno and his mother works in the State College Area School District."

Juror #10 "is an administrative assistant at Penn State's College of Engineering"

Juror #11 "A dance teacher in Penn State's continuing education program ... She occasionally has conversations about the case with her husband, who is a media specialist at a transportation center at Penn State. She knows Kelly Hastings, a potential witness. "

Juror #12 "A female Penn State professor for 24 years who had a professional relationship with former president Graham Spanier, but the two had no social interaction."

That means Jurors #7 and possibly #11 are employed without tenure at Penn State, which means that Penn State can retaliate without consequence to itself. Hopefully Juror #10 has a good union, and Juror #12 has tenure.

It could be OJ and Casey Anthony all over again.
2012-06-12 11:36:30 AM  
1 votes:
What we may have, ladies and gentlemen, is a lawyer who actually has a soul, and is going to have his client found guilty so fast that they won't have time to have the gallows set up on Mt. Nittany.
2012-06-12 11:34:32 AM  
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LEAVE LESLIE NIELSEN ALONE!
2012-06-12 11:33:45 AM  
1 votes:
The best he can hope for is to be burried in secret so his corpse won't be violated.

Unless he has an angle.
2012-06-12 11:30:26 AM  
1 votes:

Rwa2play: Yeah, this. I wanna see him live out the rest of his days in a prison cell.


Prison justice for child molesters is swift and brutal. He probably wouldn't last very long in there.
2012-06-12 11:27:34 AM  
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factoryconnection: Owangotang: College football and the fanaticism it creates is CREEPY. Heres hoping jerry drops dead.

Not me... I want that scumbag to live a long, deprived life in prison. He hasn't even, it seems, come to terms that he did anything wrong. He can't even seem to acknowledge that his "love of kids" put Penn State onto the rocks and shut down his decades-old charity!

Him dying with a clear conscience any time soon? To hell with that.


Yeah, this. I wanna see him live out the rest of his days in a prison cell.
2012-06-12 11:27:28 AM  
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Weidbrewer: Court of public opinion and all, but I've considered him unquestionably guilty since he did that interview with Costas and was asked if he was sexually attracted to children.


There's sensationalism, and gotcha questions, and mob mentality... but on the far end of the scale is the question "Are you sexually attracted to kids?"

"No." "No!" or "Not at all." Simple. Sandusky admitted guilt on national television, all while showing that he doesn't even feel guilty.
2012-06-12 11:24:40 AM  
1 votes:
You know, I just don't think I'm sneaky enough to get my penis in someone's mouth. Certainly not defending Sandusky, but I'm pretty damn sure I couldn't pull off an "oops, there's my dick in your mouth".

But then again, I don't try to put my penis in the mouth of young boys with abandonment issues.

/Mental note: hit the strip club on Father's Day.
2012-06-12 11:21:35 AM  
1 votes:

Owangotang: College football and the fanaticism it creates is CREEPY. Heres hoping jerry drops dead.


I don't want him to drop dead....yet. He needs to be convicted and labeled as the sick, twisted fark that he is. Then he can die.
2012-06-12 11:21:23 AM  
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bulldg4life: He has got to be the stupidest goddamn lawyer ever.

That being said, I find it frightening that, it seems, each of these victims is going to recount dozens upon dozens of events that happened in and around PSU facilities. Does Sandusky have an invisibility cloak?


You already know the answer: BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL BABY!!!!
2012-06-12 11:16:58 AM  
1 votes:
He has got to be the stupidest goddamn lawyer ever.

That being said, I find it frightening that, it seems, each of these victims is going to recount dozens upon dozens of events that happened in and around PSU facilities. Does Sandusky have an invisibility cloak?
2012-06-12 11:15:34 AM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Shocked this didn't make the article...from the testimony:
"sometimes (Sandusky) would 'sneakily' put his penis in my mouth while we were showering and wrestling"

I was going to make a "Liam Neeson never taught the ninjas that/Christian Bale demanded that scene be deleted" kind of joke, but, after looking at that again I kinda don't want to anymore.


What. The. Fark.
2012-06-12 09:36:56 AM  
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kronicfeld: Inept? He's fighting a tank with a toothpick. When all of the facts are stacked against you, even the best lawyer in the world isn't going to have a good day in court. I strongly suspect that Amendola advised his client to take whatever deal he could get from the Commonwealth, but Sandusky insists on fighting it.


Yeah, might be this too. You have a client that you basically know (or feel) like it dead guilty, but, they insist (maybe have themselves convinced in their own mind) that they haven't done anything wrong, so, you have to go forward. From the looks of it, he hasn't even attempted any sort of defense... he's actually said things and allowed witnesses to say things like he is the prosecution.
2012-06-12 09:28:43 AM  
1 votes:
Shocked this didn't make the article...from the testimony:
"sometimes (Sandusky) would 'sneakily' put his penis in my mouth while we were showering and wrestling"

I was going to make a "Liam Neeson never taught the ninjas that/Christian Bale demanded that scene be deleted" kind of joke, but, after looking at that again I kinda don't want to anymore.
2012-06-12 09:28:15 AM  
1 votes:
"nailers"? Wtf? "enablers". frkking autocorrect.
 
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