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2012-06-12 12:04:10 PM  

topcon:

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What did Leslie Nielsen do?
 
2012-06-12 12:04:40 PM  

TheSelphie: [o.onionstatic.com image 630x463]

Why was this asshat allowed anywhere near his funeral? I mean, I would figure Paterno's family or something would forbid him from being there. Not a JoePa fan at all, but I definitely agree this whole thing contributed to his death.


You might look at the URL of the hotlinked image.

One way ticket, aisle please.
 
2012-06-12 12:05:25 PM  

Lawnchair: TheSelphie: [o.onionstatic.com image 630x463]

Why was this asshat allowed anywhere near his funeral? I mean, I would figure Paterno's family or something would forbid him from being there. Not a JoePa fan at all, but I definitely agree this whole thing contributed to his death.

You might look at the URL of the hotlinked image.

One way ticket, aisle please.


Goddammit so much.
 
2012-06-12 12:06:20 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Harry Zach OBalls: CapeFearCadaver: Optimus Primate: Dollars to doughnuts he takes his life before the end of it all...

This is what I've been thinking. Ok, ok... hoping.

Dude has just always given me the creeps. Much like Benedict XVI.

I don't know about this. I get the feeling that Sandusky is a sociopath and believes he can do what ever he wants. The man lived a live of privilege...which included molesting children thanks to PSU. From what I've read about him he spent most of his free time actively trying to find ways to poke kids.

/one of the worst kinds of evil this man is

Which is why I just want him dead. I know a lot of people here want him to live a long miserable life in prison but all that is going to do is feed his sociopathic beliefs that he was unjustly convicted. He'll never understand why he is so farking despicable, he will never admit that what he has done is vile; he'll just wrap himself up in all his crazy self-justifications knowing that there ARE people out there who support him.

/a girl can hope...


Well, we'll just have to wonder how many prisoners he is going to be serving time with are PSU fans...they could make the rest of his life quite miserable
 
2012-06-12 12:07:05 PM  

namegoeshere: I love this headline, Subbs, because only after thoroughly reading TFA does it make a lick of sense. Sick, twisted, nauseating sense. I want brain washing, but that makes me think of sudds, and showers, and now I'm icky all over again. Well done.

See Jer, the problem with targeting large numbers of weak, submissive children is that chances are at least a couple of them will grow up into strong, assertive adults. HERO tag for this witness.


It would appear that he (witness) has directed his anger well.
 
2012-06-12 12:08:37 PM  

fireclown: I'll play. If he's found innocent, Sandusky will retire. There will be no riots, and he will not be killed or assaulted.


TheSelphie: He is still employed by someone that he could retire after the trial? Who the fark is still employing him, even on a unpaid or volunteer basis? Seriously, I'm curious.


No he retired in 1998; he doesn't work with Second Mile as they've been shut down, and I think he lost his volunteer coaching job. I'm fairly certain any of his unofficial PSU duties dried up as well.

Not soon enough, mind you.
 
2012-06-12 12:10:29 PM  

TheSelphie: Goddammit so much.


FTW, Lawnchair
 
2012-06-12 12:11:05 PM  

Lawnchair: TheSelphie: [o.onionstatic.com image 630x463]

Why was this asshat allowed anywhere near his funeral? I mean, I would figure Paterno's family or something would forbid him from being there. Not a JoePa fan at all, but I definitely agree this whole thing contributed to his death.

You might look at the URL of the hotlinked image.

One way ticket, aisle please.


Snert.

Surprised I got away with it as long as I did, this being Fark and all.
 
2012-06-12 12:11:51 PM  
I'd think having people from non-athletic depts of Penn State on the jury would be bad for Sandusky. I'd be pissed at him for dragging everyone else at the university down with him if I worked there.
 
2012-06-12 12:12:20 PM  

Optimus Primate: Sadly, the way Amendola is handling this case looks ripe for a mistrial based on the fact that he is a bumbling fool. I can't help but think that maybe he is INTENTIONALLY "throwing" the case to make sure it has to be re-tried (and thus forcing all the victims to recount the crimes AGAIN in court)

I wonder...


I think he knows sandusky is guilty but sandusky insisted on going to trial, he's either arrogant or deluded into believing these kids card about him in the slightest.
 
2012-06-12 12:15:56 PM  

Arkanaut: Apos: Riveting read. You probably could have heard a pin drop in that courtroom,

If you could actually make it through the article. It's just disgusting how horrible Sandusky really was.


Indeed. With any luck,this will wrap up very quickly and this fiend gets a stiff sentence(no pun intended)x
 
2012-06-12 12:20:16 PM  

fireclown: Fark Sandusky, double fark McQueary, and fark the entire Penn State football establishment.


Why mcqueary? He's the only one who followed up enough to force it to blow up, fark the other assistants who were "suspicious" but did nothing.
 
2012-06-12 12:22:24 PM  

fireclown: I'll play. If he's found innocent, Sandusky will retire. There will be no riots, and he will not be killed or assaulted.


This. He'd fade into obscurity, probably move a few states away, change his name, dye his hair and disappear. But the odds of an acquittal are astronomically low here.
 
Ehh
2012-06-12 12:23:16 PM  
I suppose some of the enablers really do care about football, but most, I think, were willing to look the other way because of the money that football brought them. They allowed children to be raped so they could get paid and so that they could be paymasters. That's evil.
 
2012-06-12 12:24:47 PM  
I'm probably repeating what a lot of you have already said, but this sick twisted piece of shiat needs to die. If the jury, filled with people with Penn State ties, let's him get away; then someone needs to go into Penn State and shut the whole damn place down for the good of society because they're all farking brainwashed if they're going to let this pathetic being who can't be called human anymore be free.

And if I'm the prosecution, I put Sandusky up on the stand. Clearly, his own words are the best offense the prosecution has.
 
2012-06-12 12:24:55 PM  

Owangotang: College football and the fanaticism it creates is CREEPY.


This is partly why I never got interested in sports. The tribal and cult aspects of it *are* creepy.
 
2012-06-12 12:25:35 PM  
topcon:

There is a guy that goes up to a local bar we frequent that could be his twin brother, when he had back.surgery all he could wear was warm.ups or loose fitting track suits.

I felt sorry for him thinking everyone must be looking at him strange.
 
2012-06-12 12:25:39 PM  

fireclown: I'll play. If he's found innocent, Sandusky will retire. There will be no riots, and he will not be killed or assaulted.


None of his victims were black, eh?
 
2012-06-12 12:26:11 PM  

factoryconnection: I see profiles of people that I could know in all of those... and all the people I know want Sandusky burned to the freaking ground. A "Penn State" connection is a scorned lover at best for Jerry. He was a great DC but nobody misses him at all. I'm really surprised they were able to find Centre County residents that didn't want to choke Amendola out during jury selection.

Now, in the Shultz and Curley trials, it gets a lot muddier, but then it is a lot less clear what they did and more importantly didn't do.


I wouldn't be so sure. I was at a B1G function when an Associate Dean from PSU spoke. Despite the fact the PSU presentation had nothing to do with football or kiddie rape, he made some jokes about the Sandusky thing. Like "Haha, Jer raped some kids, but it is no big deal, haha.". He ended up refusing to take questions from myself and the other Michigan alums after we ripped into him for those comments. It was great because after saying no more questions from us, he takes a question from a Northwestern alum who point blank asks him:

"How does it feel to know your institution covered up the rape of multiple children and how much of a scumbag do you have to be to joke about it here?".

/he left the stage at that point
//some people can rationalize anything to save their precious alma mater
 
2012-06-12 12:26:40 PM  

Magorn: The came the 70's and Being gay was becoming societally accepted and those men no longer felt compelled to hide out in semenaries, and "vocations" began to drop to near-zero. Many of those that WERE signing up we still seeking refuge from thier own sexuality, but now they were pedophiles rather than simply gay. The Church, in many cases knew this from thier psych screenings, but took the men anyway because of the critical shortage of recruits.


Wait, what? Seriously?

Am I misreading you, or are you equating homosexuality with pedophilia?

Or are you just saying that people with sexual proclivities out of the norm sought out priesthood?
 
2012-06-12 12:28:12 PM  

sleeps in trees: It's sad when someone actually believes the victim because it's like them "no you are not the bad person". I lost my life of 20 years disclosing. Family, friends, etc. left only with my husband and now it is finally comming full circle - 23 years later. Everyone knew but hey, don't rock the boat. Now they are singing like canaries.


Sadly typical victim experience. I'm really sorry for what you've been through.

It was no coincidence that The Second Mile was aimed at helping "at-risk" kids... read "easily exploitable troublemakers that no one would believe." ARRRRGHGHGHGHGH!
 
2012-06-12 12:28:37 PM  
I think there should be an honorary Hero tag here for the victim who walked into courtroom and unleashed a shiatstorm upon the guy who raped him.
 
2012-06-12 12:29:52 PM  

hartzdog: And what is subby's clever strategy for trying this case?


I have no strategy...I think Sandusky is actually enjoying the trial's ability to let him listen to hours of (his own) child porn every day. I think he regards his defense as a token effort at best, as his prime motivator is not to be exonerated, but to re-live all of his love affairs and sexual adventures as told first-person by the victims. This is his last "big bang" before he eventually kills himself, and he wants to savor every word that comes out of their pretty little mouths.

He's caught...his lawyer has no real options (and is WAY over his head trying to mount this defense - which is pretty obvious). This is just theater...

I suppose if Sandusky really wanted to fight this, he would hire an experienced attorney with years in criminal sexual conduct defense. That would be my strategy, sir. Not a bumbling paper pusher like Amendola.
 
2012-06-12 12:30:45 PM  

Matthew Keene: Snert.

Surprised I got away with it as long as I did, this being Fark and all.


You got me. I read that whole article thinking to myself, "If I was the father of one of those kids and read this, I'd shoot him on the way into court!" Ho Lee shiate!
 
2012-06-12 12:30:59 PM  

Silly Jesus: Magorn: The came the 70's and Being gay was becoming societally accepted and those men no longer felt compelled to hide out in semenaries, and "vocations" began to drop to near-zero. Many of those that WERE signing up we still seeking refuge from thier own sexuality, but now they were pedophiles rather than simply gay. The Church, in many cases knew this from thier psych screenings, but took the men anyway because of the critical shortage of recruits.

Wait, what? Seriously?

Am I misreading you, or are you equating homosexuality with pedophilia?

Or are you just saying that people with sexual proclivities out of the norm sought out priesthood?


He very carefully went out of his way to make it clear he wasn't equating sexuality with paedophilia.

Gay people used to seek out the priesthood because they'd been raised to be ashamed of their sexuality and felt it was something they needed to fight.

Paedophiles seek out the priesthood either for that reason, or because hey, easy access to kids.
 
2012-06-12 12:31:22 PM  
Just read an article on Sandusky and one things stunned me.

He tells a story about picking up 2 kids he had placed in a foster home through his foundation. They had run away because they hated the foster parents. At first they complained about basically too much discipline. Then one of the boys described something that pretty much made it sound like the father was molesting the boys. Yet Sandusky's response had nothing to do with that abuse, and it didn't even seem to phase him.

I am amazed this hasn't been discussed more.
 
2012-06-12 12:32:18 PM  

fireclown: Fark Sandusky, double fark McQueary, and fark the entire Penn State football establishment.


These are the kind of farking morans we're talking about.

ww4.hdnux.com

Burn in Hell, JoePa.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-12 12:32:52 PM  
One of the very telling things for me about Sandusky is that he received no jobs offers from any other universities after he left Penn State. It had to be rumored in the coaching circles, but without concrete proof, no one was willing to talk about it. My grandfather was the head football coach at a major university and the administration fired him because they were at the time trying to quietly kill the football program. He received several public offers, but decided he was done coaching football and switched careers. It was very suspicious that no one wanted Sandusky, the supposed heir to Paterno.
 
2012-06-12 12:33:12 PM  

desertgeek: And if I'm the prosecution, I put Sandusky up on the stand. Clearly, his own words are the best offense the prosecution has.


It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. You can not be forced to testify at your own trial. The good news is, this yutz is such a textbook narcissist, he will probably insist on testifying in his own defense. He will be convinced that the jury just needs to hear from him to understand that he's really a great guy, and everyone's got it all wrong. I hope to heck his attorney can't stop this. It would be lulzy fun indeed.
 
2012-06-12 12:34:44 PM  

Silly Jesus: Or are you just saying that people with sexual proclivities out of the norm sought out priesthood?


It seems like he's saying that the otherwise-normal, gay Catholic supply of seminarians dried up, leaving a high concentration of pedophiles. However, it has been shown in limited studies that there isn't a higher proportion of pedophiles in the Catholic priesthood, but it is just such a big system and it turns out one that would protect them. Either way, perfect storm allowed to gestate over time... very bad results.
 
2012-06-12 12:34:54 PM  

sleeps in trees: I lost my life of 20 years disclosing. Family, friends, etc. left only with my husband and now it is finally comming full circle - 23 years later. Everyone knew but hey, don't rock the boat. Now they are singing like canaries.


I didn't tell anyone until I was over 30. To this day I don't think anyone close to the situation believes me. I don't tell people anymore because, no matter what they say, a male molested by another male is looked down upon.
 
2012-06-12 12:36:29 PM  

Silly Jesus: Am I misreading you, or are you equating homosexuality with pedophilia?

Or are you just saying that people with sexual proclivities out of the norm sought out priesthood?


I do think that's what he was trying to say. While they're vastly different in terms of the target of the persons sexuality, the response to both was similar: denial, followed by an attempt to distance one's self from the "taboo". Unfortunately, in terms of the person, sexuality is too strong of a drive to be denied forever.
 
2012-06-12 12:36:39 PM  

SharkTrager: Just read an article on Sandusky and one things stunned me.

He tells a story about picking up 2 kids he had placed in a foster home through his foundation. They had run away because they hated the foster parents. At first they complained about basically too much discipline. Then one of the boys described something that pretty much made it sound like the father was molesting the boys. Yet Sandusky's response had nothing to do with that abuse, and it didn't even seem to phase him.

I am amazed this hasn't been discussed more.


There was that article about him pimping out kids to large donors: Link

Maybe what you are suggesting is the link. If these foster parents made large donations then they need to be investigated.
 
2012-06-12 12:36:58 PM  

steamingpile: fireclown: Fark Sandusky, double fark McQueary, and fark the entire Penn State football establishment.

Why mcqueary? He's the only one who followed up enough to force it to blow up, fark the other assistants who were "suspicious" but did nothing.


This. McQueary isn't perfect, but he is the main reason Sandusky is getting stopped. Serial child abusers are hard to prosecute because it is almost always the victim's word against the perpetrator's word--the crimes are almost never witnessed directly by someone outside of the abuse. McQeary's clear testimony as a third party witness is what gave the other accusers courage to come forward, because the victims know their version of events is going to be corroborated by someone from the outside.

McQueary agreed to testify knowing that he was going to compromise everything he had ever worked for. He's on indefinite leave from his job--a native of State College, he was trained from childhood to want to be a football player and coach. That's probably all gone now. He's had to put his house up for sale. He and his family get death threats daily from people who are mad at him for threatening the Penn State football culture, and death threats from people who think he didn't do enough early enough. And yet his example is teaching a lot of other coaches and administrators about how to take some farking responsibility for the safety of young people in their care. And it is giving victims in sports programs, youth programs and boarding schools the courage to come forward, now that awareness has been raised.

McQeary could have done the easy thing and kept his mouth shut. He's have his job, his family would be safer, and he'd still be a budding sports hero in his home town. He put that all at risk to do the right thing. Give the guy a farking break.
 
2012-06-12 12:38:21 PM  

namegoeshere: desertgeek: And if I'm the prosecution, I put Sandusky up on the stand. Clearly, his own words are the best offense the prosecution has.

It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. You can not be forced to testify at your own trial. The good news is, this yutz is such a textbook narcissist, he will probably insist on testifying in his own defense. He will be convinced that the jury just needs to hear from him to understand that he's really a great guy, and everyone's got it all wrong. I hope to heck his attorney can't stop this. It would be lulzy fun indeed.


After I posted that, I remembered hearing somewhere that the defense was considering putting him on the witness stand. So in cross examination, the prosecution could hammer him. At the minimum, I would play that Costas interview for the jury. If you can't get Sandusky on the stand, get him with his own words anyway.
 
2012-06-12 12:38:36 PM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Silly Jesus: Magorn: The came the 70's and Being gay was becoming societally accepted and those men no longer felt compelled to hide out in semenaries, and "vocations" began to drop to near-zero. Many of those that WERE signing up we still seeking refuge from thier own sexuality, but now they were pedophiles rather than simply gay. The Church, in many cases knew this from thier psych screenings, but took the men anyway because of the critical shortage of recruits.

Wait, what? Seriously?

Am I misreading you, or are you equating homosexuality with pedophilia?

Or are you just saying that people with sexual proclivities out of the norm sought out priesthood?

He very carefully went out of his way to make it clear he wasn't equating sexuality with paedophilia.

Gay people used to seek out the priesthood because they'd been raised to be ashamed of their sexuality and felt it was something they needed to fight.

Paedophiles seek out the priesthood either for that reason, or because hey, easy access to kids.


It was the bolded that got my back up. Strike the word "simply" and have it read, "...but now they were pedophiles instead of being gay" and it sounds much better. I think this was the OP's intention - the wording was just awkward. Perhaps because I am sensitive to such things.
 
2012-06-12 12:38:52 PM  

JerseyTim: Victim testifies Sandusky is gay but papers continue to say he's a pedophile. The coverup never ends.
- Catholic League (@CatholicLeague) June 12, 2012


One response to that kind of tweet in several hours' time? I don't think The Catholic League's twitter feed is much of a voice of an organization, although that sentiment is 100% Catholic League horsesh*t.

Maud Dib: Burn in Hell, JoePa.


The guy in the costume with the "keep quiet" sign might be satirizing the cover up. I'd hope so.
 
2012-06-12 12:40:12 PM  

desertgeek: I'm probably repeating what a lot of you have already said, but this sick twisted piece of shiat needs to die. If the jury, filled with people with Penn State ties, let's him get away; then someone needs to go into Penn State and shut the whole damn place down for the good of society because they're all farking brainwashed if they're going to let this pathetic being who can't be called human anymore be free.

And if I'm the prosecution, I put Sandusky up on the stand. Clearly, his own words are the best offense the prosecution has.


Okay A) people at Penn State hate Sandusky even more than you do. No one at the university wants this guy to walk; and B) it isn't up to the prosecution to put the defendant on the stand, Matlock.
 
2012-06-12 12:40:17 PM  

Arkanaut: topcon: [l3.yimg.com image 512x342]

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LEAVE LESLIE NIELSEN ALONE!


Yeah, wasn't it Peter Graves that was in the cockpit with Timmy?

/mmm....gladiator movies....
 
2012-06-12 12:43:31 PM  

desertgeek: And if I'm the prosecution, I put Sandusky up on the stand. Clearly, his own words are the best offense the prosecution has.


Do you really need someone to tell you that the prosecution cannot force Sandusky to take the stand?

It doesn't matter anyway - Sandusky will be spending the rest of his worthless life in prison.
 
2012-06-12 12:43:41 PM  
Given the new evidence of coverup by the administration, Penn State football should get the death penalty.
 
2012-06-12 12:43:49 PM  

factoryconnection: The guy in the costume with the "keep quiet" sign might be satirizing the cover up. I'd hope so.


Well, it is a pedo-bear costume, so....
 
2012-06-12 12:44:13 PM  
I see Sandusky killing himself or "killing himself" at some point in the futre. Either way he'll not live past 70.
 
2012-06-12 12:44:28 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Optimus Primate: Dollars to doughnuts he takes his life before the end of it all...

This is what I've been thinking. Ok, ok... hoping.


That's really his only option. Give him "Rommel's choice."
 
2012-06-12 12:46:25 PM  

farkingnotworking: desertgeek: I'm probably repeating what a lot of you have already said, but this sick twisted piece of shiat needs to die. If the jury, filled with people with Penn State ties, let's him get away; then someone needs to go into Penn State and shut the whole damn place down for the good of society because they're all farking brainwashed if they're going to let this pathetic being who can't be called human anymore be free.

And if I'm the prosecution, I put Sandusky up on the stand. Clearly, his own words are the best offense the prosecution has.

Okay A) people at Penn State hate Sandusky even more than you do. No one at the university wants this guy to walk; and B) it isn't up to the prosecution to put the defendant on the stand, Matlock.


tnpir: desertgeek: And if I'm the prosecution, I put Sandusky up on the stand. Clearly, his own words are the best offense the prosecution has.

Do you really need someone to tell you that the prosecution cannot force Sandusky to take the stand?

It doesn't matter anyway - Sandusky will be spending the rest of his worthless life in prison.


Read what I posted a bit later, people.
 
2012-06-12 12:49:12 PM  

Silly Jesus: Magorn: The came the 70's and Being gay was becoming societally accepted and those men no longer felt compelled to hide out in semenaries, and "vocations" began to drop to near-zero. Many of those that WERE signing up we still seeking refuge from thier own sexuality, but now they were pedophiles rather than simply gay. The Church, in many cases knew this from thier psych screenings, but took the men anyway because of the critical shortage of recruits.

Wait, what? Seriously?

Am I misreading you, or are you equating homosexuality with pedophilia?

Or are you just saying that people with sexual proclivities out of the norm sought out priesthood?


You're reading him wrong. The only similarity he links between the two is that both groups became priests/sought out the priesthood. He then goes out of his way to explain the difference.

He's saying "Gay people used to go to seminary because they felt their sexuality was wrong, and that being in the seminary might help them. After all, it was *gay sex* that was a sin, not simply being gay. But, as the times changed, and social attitudes altered, that wellspring of recruits dried up-gay people stopped feeling as much of a need to hide from themselves."

He then goes on to explain "So they started letting pedophiles in instead. This was a very bad idea, and distinctly different from letting gay people be priests."
 
2012-06-12 12:52:14 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: factoryconnection: The guy in the costume with the "keep quiet" sign might be satirizing the cover up. I'd hope so.

Well, it is a pedo-bear costume, so....


Last year's Cotton Bowl, UH vs. Penn State. I know the guy who wore the costume. It went viral on most sports related forums. Pretty sure it got on Fark also.
 
2012-06-12 12:52:57 PM  

farkingnotworking: McQeary could have done the easy thing and kept his mouth shut. He's have his job, his family would be safer, and he'd still be a budding sports hero in his home town. He put that all at risk to do the right thing. Give the guy a farking break.


Really? Farking really? I don't know about you but, if I saw a child being raped I wouldn't turn around and walk out the shower. All McQeary had to do is call the cops (or puch the d-bag) and this whole thing would of have been over with a DECADE ago.
 
2012-06-12 12:53:01 PM  

Maud Dib: fireclown: Fark Sandusky, double fark McQueary, and fark the entire Penn State football establishment.

These are the kind of farking morans we're talking about.

[ww4.hdnux.com image 628x420]

Burn in Hell, JoePa.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x360]


Um, that second image is someone *making fun* of Penn state. That's a dude in a pedobear costume wearing that sign.

factoryconnection: The guy in the costume with the "keep quiet" sign might be satirizing the cover up. I'd hope so.


He's in a pedobear costume. I'm pretty sure he's satirizing it.
 
2012-06-12 12:55:48 PM  

Optimus Primate: Dollars to doughnuts he takes his life before the end of it all...


Tonight would be convenient.
 
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