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(Grist)   $28 for a cabbage, $65 per pound for chicken, $105 for a case of bottled water. No, this isn't New York. Welcome to Nunavut Canada   (grist.org) divider line 243
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2012-06-11 08:18:40 PM  

optikeye: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Marcus Aurelius: [learnsomethingnewtoday.us image 250x253]
Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS

Came to make sure this had been covered

/thank you, Mr. Aurelius

You're both retarded. They where a Nomadic tribe that did move and hunt and live off the land, until the land was taken away from them and they where placed on a reservation.


Actually they still have plenty of land.
And yes, I am Inuk, but live in the south.
 
2012-06-11 08:19:43 PM  
www.thespeedgamers.com
 
2012-06-11 08:20:06 PM  

FormlessOne: Ah, price-gouging at its finest - as indicated in the article, the local prices are way, way out of proportion with the expense of shipping. It's also amusing to see how quickly prices dropped when the complaints attracted publicity. It'll be interesting to see how this gets addressed, because local businesses are charging these prices with some degree of complicity with their local governments - otherwise, the problem would've been addressed sooner.

Free market capitalism at its ugliest.
/flame on


I agree, but I don't understand why the free market isn't working in this case. Why the hell wouldn't an entrepreneur step up and half the prices and make a huge profit and be a savior. I just don't get these times. It's like the people who can stand up and make a difference just don't want to.
 
2012-06-11 08:20:40 PM  
They used to jiffy out the expiry dates on the milk where I lived in Northern Alberta, so you'd pay you $8 and then it was a crap shoot on whether it was sour or not.
 
2012-06-11 08:20:44 PM  
There are three possible solutions to the problem:

1. Get a higher paying job;

2. Move somewhere that prices are lower;

3. Go into competition with the local stores, and deliver better prices---if you can.
 
2012-06-11 08:21:33 PM  
www.onmilwaukee.com
Would like to offer his opinion on how to solve the food issue in this remote region.
 
2012-06-11 08:21:46 PM  

ununcle: I think I read some where that to buy ice water in the middle of the Sahara Dersert is way more expensive the the people of Poland Springs pay. This is so unfair.


Opportunity cost.
 
2012-06-11 08:22:43 PM  

PacManDreaming: Holy crap! That is ridiculous:

[i49.tinypic.com image 480x640]


It is, but it's near what I would have paid in rural Alaska when I lived there. Something that spoils quick, needs to stay chilled, and needs to be flown hundreds of miles to get there is expensive enough -- add the fuel prices of the past few years and it's only an occasional buy. It's why everyone I knew in the village had massive quantities of powdered milk.

Food prices in the North are always legendary. Of course, we lived where everyone had salmon and was happy to share it with you, everyone went out on the tundra to pick berries in the summer, and everyone had a bread maker. Most people I knew bought in bulk from Anchorage or Amazon.

Compare:

Food Prices in Barrow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FgZZ8Wkwkc

Food Prices in Bethel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyVgDW7h0Fw&feature=related
 
2012-06-11 08:22:56 PM  
Its not $65/lb chicken, subby. Its $65 for a 2kg bag which works out to about $14.50/lb.

Still expensive, I know.
 
2012-06-11 08:23:20 PM  

leevis: GAT_00: FormlessOne: Ah, price-gouging at its finest

It's the way of the free market. Just think, this kind of gouging is exactly what the GOP and Libertarians want. No controls over the market and you can gouge all you want.

Perhaps you'd prefer the die-hard leftists goal of food rationing.


Pretty sure the die-hard leftists goal is food welfare. Although I'm sure they wouldn't mind rationing some fatties for the social good.
 
2012-06-11 08:24:08 PM  

binkyman: And yes, I am Inuk, but live in the south.


I'm assuming that you mean the balmy climes of southern Canada. If you don't mind my asking, how would you say the handling of native peoples of the United States compares to that of Canada? And how widespread is assimilation of Native Canadian peoples? Do the Inuk up north have a real chance of keeping things going as things now stand, or are they going to have to change lifestyles completely?
 
2012-06-11 08:25:07 PM  

leevis: GAT_00: FormlessOne: Ah, price-gouging at its finest

It's the way of the free market. Just think, this kind of gouging is exactly what the GOP and Libertarians want. No controls over the market and you can gouge all you want.

Perhaps you'd prefer the die-hard leftists goal of food rationing.


Hush now, imaginary shiat is his apparently his only response to actual consequences.
 
2012-06-11 08:25:10 PM  
That's nothing compared to what the military pays for food.
 
2012-06-11 08:27:20 PM  
DNRTFT but I was told Inuits ate seal and unicorn whales and thrived on it.
 
2012-06-11 08:27:41 PM  
I would suggest looting. But that's just me.
 
2012-06-11 08:29:33 PM  

leevis: Perhaps you'd prefer the die-hard leftists goal of food people rationing.


FTFY

/just kill them now
 
2012-06-11 08:29:57 PM  

HempHead: Marcus Aurelius: [learnsomethingnewtoday.us image 250x253]
Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS

Actually, the Canadian government relocated the tribes there from land white men coveted.


I don't think this is the case with the Inuit. They've been hanging out there for thousands of years. An interesting aside is that the Canadian government doesn't group them with the other aboriginal groups that they call "First Nations."
 
2012-06-11 08:30:48 PM  

GAT_00: leevis: GAT_00: FormlessOne: Ah, price-gouging at its finest

It's the way of the free market. Just think, this kind of gouging is exactly what the GOP and Libertarians want. No controls over the market and you can gouge all you want.

Perhaps you'd prefer the die-hard leftists goal of food rationing.

Hush now, imaginary shiat is his apparently his only response to actual consequences.


His squared?
 
2012-06-11 08:31:23 PM  

optikeye: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Marcus Aurelius: [learnsomethingnewtoday.us image 250x253]
Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS

Came to make sure this had been covered

/thank you, Mr. Aurelius

You're both retarded. They where a Nomadic tribe that did move and hunt and live off the land, until the land was taken away from them and they where placed on a reservation.


Seconded. And fark that fat sack of shiat Sam Kinison for smirkingly making fun of people in Africa who often face being slaughtered or terrorized for being in "the wrong place", through no fault of their own. People usually live in deserts because they've been driven off farmland by their enemies.

Also, Natives who move off the Res typically face a profound loss of community, and poor education/job skills which virtually guarantee they'll be underemployed at best or homeless at worst. This situation is not improving quickly, to my shame as a Canadian.
 
2012-06-11 08:31:44 PM  

Gough: HempHead: Marcus Aurelius: [learnsomethingnewtoday.us image 250x253]
Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS

Actually, the Canadian government relocated the tribes there from land white men coveted.

I don't think this is the case with the Inuit. They've been hanging out there for thousands of years. An interesting aside is that the Canadian government doesn't group them with the other aboriginal groups that they call "First Nations."


Awesome!

Dude, you were totally needed in another thread once...

;)
 
2012-06-11 08:34:09 PM  
Country Grocer FTW

/obscure
 
2012-06-11 08:35:09 PM  
Before anyone mentions the shipping costs, next time you go shopping check out which corners of the world your produce is shipped from...

Shipping costs are part of it, but it has more to do with how remote these communities are, limited transportation between these communities, and populations too low to sustain any form of competition.
 
2012-06-11 08:36:22 PM  

T-Servo: Country Grocer FTW

/obscure


Nothing is obscure on FARK. ;)
 
2012-06-11 08:37:20 PM  

optikeye: You're both retarded. They where a Nomadic tribe that did move and hunt and live off the land, until the land was taken away from them and they where placed on a reservation.


Shoulda fought harder.
 
2012-06-11 08:38:03 PM  
If I was in charge up there, I'd build a high speed train. Just connect into California's high speed rail, and food will be yum-yum cheap.
 
2012-06-11 08:38:06 PM  
presumably they have some pretty sweet paying jobs for anyone to be able to afford living there.
 
2012-06-11 08:39:15 PM  
After a look at Wiki, there's gold, Diamonds, copper, zink, and nickle mostly discovered either in the 80's or recently. The population is like 80% native american. Yeah,,, Now I get it. They need to get bootstrappy and work themselves out of the mines if they want milk.
 
2012-06-11 08:41:55 PM  
A cheese sandwich! Where were you raised, a f**king igloo?
 
2012-06-11 08:41:57 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: [learnsomethingnewtoday.us image 250x253]
Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS


over this thread is
 
2012-06-11 08:43:50 PM  

FormlessOne: Ah, price-gouging at its finest - as indicated in the article, the local prices are way, way out of proportion with the expense of shipping. It's also amusing to see how quickly prices dropped when the complaints attracted publicity. It'll be interesting to see how this gets addressed, because local businesses are charging these prices with some degree of complicity with their local governments - otherwise, the problem would've been addressed sooner.

Free market capitalism at its ugliest.
/flame on



Nothing to flame on about and nothing to get upset about. You're skipping over some important points though. Nunavut is in the middle of nowhere. There isn't a supply and demand...only demand. And they live on government welfare for the most part. They live on cigarettes and alcohol and drive around in trucks and skidoos that suck up 5 dollar a litre gas. They live without working and then complain when the kids don't go to school, where communities are rife with gang violence, where they want a western southern life style but live in the middle of nowhere. It's laughable if it wasn't so expensive for the tax payers.
But, never mind. It makes you feel all snug and superior to say it's the fault of someone else. It's not their fault. When the Canadian government years ago tried to make the kids go to school..what happened. Why the people sued the shiat out of the government for taking away their rights to be ignorant. When the kids got shipped out of the community when the parents were huffing gasoline or drunk out of their skulls and were busy f*cking their daughters and molesting their sons, what happened. Why they sued the government. They don't hunt anymore, they don't do anything except biatch and complain and blame anyone and everyone. But. You don't get it, because you don't want to get it. And as you remind us on the forum over and over. You don't give a flying f*ck what happens in Canada..remember?
 
2012-06-11 08:49:22 PM  

GAT_00: FormlessOne: Ah, price-gouging at its finest

It's the way of the free market. Just think, this kind of gouging is exactly what the GOP and Libertarians want. No controls over the market and you can gouge all you want.


Just think, if you live in an icy wasteland, cruel capitalists will charge you exorbitant fees for doing so!
 
2012-06-11 08:50:15 PM  
ᐊᑏ ᓂᕆᓕᖅᑕ
 
2012-06-11 08:51:57 PM  

Point02GPA: If I was in charge up there, I'd build a high speed train. Just connect into California's high speed rail, and food will be yum-yum cheap.


Is there any chance the track could bend?

At these prices, the town sounds like a mule with a spinning wheel.
 
2012-06-11 08:52:33 PM  
sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net

"Best Value" chicken... Bet it's not as delicious as the irony.
 
2012-06-11 08:53:46 PM  

indarwinsshadow: FormlessOne: Ah, price-gouging at its finest - as indicated in the article, the local prices are way, way out of proportion with the expense of shipping. It's also amusing to see how quickly prices dropped when the complaints attracted publicity. It'll be interesting to see how this gets addressed, because local businesses are charging these prices with some degree of complicity with their local governments - otherwise, the problem would've been addressed sooner.

Free market capitalism at its ugliest.
/flame on


Nothing to flame on about and nothing to get upset about. You're skipping over some important points though. Nunavut is in the middle of nowhere. There isn't a supply and demand...only demand. And they live on government welfare for the most part. They live on cigarettes and alcohol and drive around in trucks and skidoos that suck up 5 dollar a litre gas. They live without working and then complain when the kids don't go to school, where communities are rife with gang violence, where they want a western southern life style but live in the middle of nowhere. It's laughable if it wasn't so expensive for the tax payers.
But, never mind. It makes you feel all snug and superior to say it's the fault of someone else. It's not their fault. When the Canadian government years ago tried to make the kids go to school..what happened. Why the people sued the shiat out of the government for taking away their rights to be ignorant. When the kids got shipped out of the community when the parents were huffing gasoline or drunk out of their skulls and were busy f*cking their daughters and molesting their sons, what happened. Why they sued the government. They don't hunt anymore, they don't do anything except biatch and complain and blame anyone and everyone. But. You don't get it, because you don't want to get it. And as you remind us on the forum over and over. You don't give a flying f*ck what happens in Canada..remember?




WINNAR!

So sick and tired hearing about Indians/Native Americans/Aboriginals/First Nations or whatever you want to call native cultures that want the benefits of modern society without learning how to assimilate. There's a reason why a miniscule percentage of humanity live the way they live--there's no way to make a modern living with their education and work ethic as compared to their traditional culture.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.
 
2012-06-11 08:55:07 PM  

csi_yellowknife: powdered milk.


Dammit...now I have Prairie Home Companion in my head.

DAMN YOU, KEILLOR!
 
2012-06-11 08:56:17 PM  

9beers: Iqaluit, has a Kentucky Fried Chicken


I'm not sure how accurate this site is, but it says a bucket of KFC costs $44.
 
2012-06-11 08:57:44 PM  
What's the problem? They can ship their food in for cheaper. Sounds like the stores are charging for the convenience of having all that selection.
 
2012-06-11 08:59:32 PM  
So food prices are high in remote northern communities that can only be reached by trucks via ice roads for a few weeks in the middle of winter. Is this a surprise? The rest of the year the only way to reach these towns are via air.

It may be a good time to note that the food stores in these communities are generally run by people related to the tribal chiefs - and the chiefs refuse to let any competing stores to open.

The entire community for the most part lives on government welfare and does not work. These protests are simply aimed at requiring the government to provide higher payments each month to the families.
 
2012-06-11 09:00:54 PM  
I've been there a few times and I wonder why anyone would buy bottle water. Unless you draw your water downstream of the sewage discharge, or on the coast with saline/brackish, the water's pretty darn clean--and tasty. Also the idea of the train (obviously a joke) would be a nightmare of construction. First of all, the distances are incredible between communities. Also, it would have to be built over soft ground and would be extremely slow. Anyone who's taken the train from say, The Pas to Churchill would be painfully aware of how farking long the trip takes due to the tracks being built over muskeg.
 
2012-06-11 09:01:41 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: 9beers: Iqaluit, has a Kentucky Fried Chicken

I'm not sure how accurate this site is, but it says a bucket of KFC costs $44.


Just paid 23 bucks and some change for an 8 piece original bucket and a small coke over in Kaiser, Or.
 
2012-06-11 09:01:42 PM  

gblive: So food prices are high in remote northern communities that can only be reached by trucks via ice roads for a few weeks in the middle of winter. Is this a surprise? The rest of the year the only way to reach these towns are via air.

It may be a good time to note that the food stores in these communities are generally run by people related to the tribal chiefs - and the chiefs refuse to let any competing stores to open.

The entire community for the most part lives on government welfare and does not work. These protests are simply aimed at requiring the government to provide higher payments each month to the families.


QFT.
 
2012-06-11 09:01:49 PM  

GibbyTheMole: [sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x480]

"Best Value" chicken... Bet it's not as delicious as the irony.


That chicken looks like a deep-fried Cthullu, man.

Just notin'.

;)
 
2012-06-11 09:03:26 PM  

FormlessOne: Free market capitalism at its ugliest.
/flame on




That's not free market, it's called Collusion.

/more like monopoly or company town
 
2012-06-11 09:05:31 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: 9beers: Iqaluit, has a Kentucky Fried Chicken

I'm not sure how accurate this site is, but it says a bucket of KFC costs $44.


If more blacks would migrate that would come down. If you take a map of the northern hemispheric, the further north you go the prices for KFC, grape soda, and dog sled rims go up exponentially.
 
2012-06-11 09:05:52 PM  

fickenchucker: indarwinsshadow: FormlessOne:

So sick and tired hearing about Indians/Native
Americans/Aboriginals/First Nations or whatever you
want to call native cultures that want the benefits of
modern society without learning how to assimilate.
There's a reason why a miniscule percentage of
humanity live the way they live--there's no way to
make a modern living with their education and work
ethic as compared to their traditional culture.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.



It is that simple.
 
2012-06-11 09:06:38 PM  
Last time I was in Anchorage Camel Lights were like $9 a farking pack. Though that's probably a tax thing.


Jeng: leevis: GAT_00: FormlessOne: Ah, price-gouging at its finest

It's the way of the free market. Just think, this kind of gouging is exactly what the GOP and Libertarians want. No controls over the market and you can gouge all you want.

Perhaps you'd prefer the die-hard leftists goal of food rationing.

Pretty sure the die-hard leftists goal is food welfare. Although I'm sure they wouldn't mind rationing some fatties for the social good.


How many fatties would I be allowed per month?
 
2012-06-11 09:08:15 PM  

Boatmech: fickenchucker: indarwinsshadow: FormlessOne:

So sick and tired hearing about Indians/Native
Americans/Aboriginals/First Nations or whatever you
want to call native cultures that want the benefits of
modern society without learning how to assimilate.
There's a reason why a miniscule percentage of
humanity live the way they live--there's no way to
make a modern living with their education and work
ethic as compared to their traditional culture.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.


It is that simple.


No, it isn't.

Grrr.
 
2012-06-11 09:08:41 PM  
New York has weird overpriced things. Cereal was $7 a box.
 
2012-06-11 09:11:07 PM  
Moon makes food move too, mans.
 
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