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(Grist)   $28 for a cabbage, $65 per pound for chicken, $105 for a case of bottled water. No, this isn't New York. Welcome to Nunavut Canada   (grist.org) divider line 243
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2012-06-11 09:12:23 PM  
They're just a bunch of drunk Eskimos so of course they're going to have the hell gouged out of them. If they had a modicum of ambition they'd set up a food collective, drive the store out of business and sell the food themselves. But that would require them to not get drunk all day every day. Just drive a truck down the Dempster Highway and buy all the food they want for a decent price and bring it back. It wouldn't take too many $65 chickens to finance the project. But that would require someone to forgo getting drunk for 4 days, too big of a sacrifice for Little Bear and his squaw.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-11 09:13:15 PM  

Point02GPA: Bathia_Mapes: 9beers: Iqaluit, has a Kentucky Fried Chicken

I'm not sure how accurate this site is, but it says a bucket of KFC costs $44.

Just paid 23 bucks and some change for an 8 piece original bucket and a small coke over in Kaiser, Or.


But did you use a coupon? :-D
 
2012-06-11 09:15:01 PM  

InspectorZero: unyon: This isn't particularly new. It's as expensive as hell to live in the north with a southern diet. What did flabbergast me was the $104 case of Nestle water. I have no idea why someone that lives amongst melting glaciers would feel the need to buy bottled water, like it's somehow better from someplace else on the planet. Three cheers for marketing!

Well, the glaciers you speak of produce water free from flouride, pharmaceuticals and various other industrial waste. Why would you not want that? That stuff helps your teeth.


I'd have thought you were a troll until you misspelled fluoride.
 
2012-06-11 09:15:28 PM  

halB: What's the problem? They can ship their food in for cheaper. Sounds like the stores are charging for the convenience of having all that selection.


The part of the story that is not being told is that the stores are owned by relatives of the tribal chiefs in these remote villages. They refuse to let competing stores open and do not allow food to be directly imported commercially. This leaves the only options for families are to fly privately and smuggle back food in luggage, or to pay the high local prices.

Basically the entire scam is about putting bills into the pockets of local tribal leaders.
 
2012-06-11 09:15:43 PM  

PacManDreaming: Here's a HuffPo article about the food prices.


Gee, thanks. After reading one persons blog. I want to read another persons blog.
 
2012-06-11 09:17:11 PM  

billgulch: [www.thespeedgamers.com image 640x455]


Used to love that game. Been meaning to find a BB version.
/now I've got that damn intro stuck in my head-thx :()
 
2012-06-11 09:20:16 PM  
Just want to note that the racism and ignorance in this thread has hit Defcon 3.

Carry on.
 
2012-06-11 09:20:21 PM  
fickenchucker:
So sick and tired hearing about Indians/Native Americans/Aboriginals/First Nations or whatever you want to call native cultures that want the benefits of modern society without learning how to assimilate. There's a reason why a miniscule percentage of humanity live the way they live--there's no way to make a modern living with their education and work ethic as compared to their traditional culture.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.


You left out the part where we set them up to fail, forced to live on the worst land we could find, dragging their children away to be buggered, terrorized and brainwashed in Christian residential schools (they were beaten for speaking their Native language), robbing them of what riches their land later was found to have, and generally screwing them over seven ways from Sunday. Yeah, it's all their fault those lazy drunken Indians >:(
 
2012-06-11 09:20:41 PM  
>>this kind of gouging is exactly what the GOP and Libertarians want.

You nailed it, GAT_00.

Bush, Cheney, McCain, everyone -- they demand $28 cabbage, and they will kill and maim anyone who gets in their way.

Thank you for being so incisive and brilliant. And, frankly, brave. No doubt they are tracking your location right now, and you know that. But yet, you forge on.
 
2012-06-11 09:23:57 PM  

OscarTamerz: They're just a bunch of drunk Eskimos so of course they're going to have the hell gouged out of them. If they had a modicum of ambition they'd set up a food collective, drive the store out of business and sell the food themselves. But that would require them to not get drunk all day every day. Just drive a truck down the Dempster Highway and buy all the food they want for a decent price and bring it back. It wouldn't take too many $65 chickens to finance the project. But that would require someone to forgo getting drunk for 4 days, too big of a sacrifice for Little Bear and his squaw.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x480]


Are you trolling or are you actually that bad at geography? The Dempster is literally thousands of kilometres away from Nunavut.There are NO roads that go from Nunavut down to the south for more than a few weeks a year. It just isn't possible for people to get their own stuff for any cheaper than the stores sell it for.
 
2012-06-11 09:24:47 PM  

OscarTamerz: They're just a bunch of drunk Eskimos so of course they're going to have the hell gouged out of them. If they had a modicum of ambition they'd set up a food collective, drive the store out of business and sell the food themselves. But that would require them to not get drunk all day every day. Just drive a truck down the Dempster Highway and buy all the food they want for a decent price and bring it back. It wouldn't take too many $65 chickens to finance the project. But that would require someone to forgo getting drunk for 4 days, too big of a sacrifice for Little Bear and his squaw.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x480]


Are you trolling, or just really that mentally challenged? I honestly cannot tell.

/most of these communities where chickens are $65 aren't connected to any highway shiat-for-brains
 
2012-06-11 09:24:51 PM  
Ugly in here.

That is all.
 
2012-06-11 09:25:01 PM  
I just looked up Inuit diet on Wikipedia.

And found this:

"The decline of hunting is partially due to the fact that young people lack the skills to survive off the land. They are no longer skilled in hunting like their ancestors and are growing more accustomed to the Qallunaat ("White people") food that they receive from the south. The high costs of hunting equipment-snowmobiles, rifles, sleds, camping gear, gasoline, and oil-is also causing a decline in families who hunt for their meals."

Um... Your people survived for generations without that sh*t.

I'm not entirely without sympathy for them. I mean, the white folks did take their land and got them used to an easier life. It's not right. But it's not like it's generations and generations ago. How long has it been? 50 years??

Either that or go full on white folk and move to Southern Canada, get a job, become part of society. Or find somewhere to create your own self-sufficient society.
 
2012-06-11 09:25:33 PM  

No Such Agency: fickenchucker:
So sick and tired hearing about Indians/Native Americans/Aboriginals/First Nations or whatever you want to call native cultures that want the benefits of modern society without learning how to assimilate. There's a reason why a miniscule percentage of humanity live the way they live--there's no way to make a modern living with their education and work ethic as compared to their traditional culture.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.

You left out the part where we set them up to fail, forced to live on the worst land we could find, dragging their children away to be buggered, terrorized and brainwashed in Christian residential schools (they were beaten for speaking their Native language), robbing them of what riches their land later was found to have, and generally screwing them over seven ways from Sunday. Yeah, it's all their fault those lazy drunken Indians >:(


And all this happened when?
 
2012-06-11 09:27:40 PM  

Gough: HempHead: Marcus Aurelius: [learnsomethingnewtoday.us image 250x253]
Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS

Actually, the Canadian government relocated the tribes there from land white men coveted.

I don't think this is the case with the Inuit. They've been hanging out there for thousands of years. An interesting aside is that the Canadian government doesn't group them with the other aboriginal groups that they call "First Nations."


According to wikipedia:

During the 1980s, the relocated Inuit and their descendants initiated a claim against the Canadian Government arguing that "there is overwhelming evidence to suggest that the central, if not the sole, reasons, for the relocation of Inuit to the High Arctic was the desire by Canada to assert its sovereignty over the Arctic Islands and surrounding area", and in 1987 sought $10 million in compensation from the federal government.[12]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Arctic_relocation
 
2012-06-11 09:28:53 PM  

moothemagiccow: New York has weird overpriced things. Cereal was $7 a box.


=============================

Supermarket prices in NYC tend to be higher than the surrounding suburbs, but nothing really outrageous. It's the small NYC bodega type stores that have high prices, and stuff sits on the shelf past the expiration date.

On the other hand, supermarket prices in Jersey can be stupid cheap.

Shoprite of Hoboken
 
2012-06-11 09:28:58 PM  

Boatmech: No Such Agency: fickenchucker:
So sick and tired hearing about Indians/Native Americans/Aboriginals/First Nations or whatever you want to call native cultures that want the benefits of modern society without learning how to assimilate. There's a reason why a miniscule percentage of humanity live the way they live--there's no way to make a modern living with their education and work ethic as compared to their traditional culture.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.

You left out the part where we set them up to fail, forced to live on the worst land we could find, dragging their children away to be buggered, terrorized and brainwashed in Christian residential schools (they were beaten for speaking their Native language), robbing them of what riches their land later was found to have, and generally screwing them over seven ways from Sunday. Yeah, it's all their fault those lazy drunken Indians >:(

And all this happened when?


Look it up, slowbie.
 
2012-06-11 09:29:51 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS


Or at least eat things native to Nunavut. Like not cabbage
That $105 water is outrageous but even so. Why buy water at all?
 
2012-06-11 09:31:58 PM  
The Bear spirit is a strong one.

Destroy the land on which the bear lives, and the bear spirit may curse you forever to spoil your endeavors forever squared.

Tread carefully, uglies.

;)
 
2012-06-11 09:33:44 PM  

Moosecakes: Marcus Aurelius: Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS

Or at least eat things native to Nunavut. Like not cabbage
That $105 water is outrageous but even so. Why buy water at all?


Cabbage is high in nutrients and cheap in the Americas: extra-chargers are usurers...
 
2012-06-11 09:34:14 PM  

Boatmech: No Such Agency: fickenchucker:
So sick and tired hearing about Indians/Native Americans/Aboriginals/First Nations or whatever you want to call native cultures that want the benefits of modern society without learning how to assimilate. There's a reason why a miniscule percentage of humanity live the way they live--there's no way to make a modern living with their education and work ethic as compared to their traditional culture.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.

You left out the part where we set them up to fail, forced to live on the worst land we could find, dragging their children away to be buggered, terrorized and brainwashed in Christian residential schools (they were beaten for speaking their Native language), robbing them of what riches their land later was found to have, and generally screwing them over seven ways from Sunday. Yeah, it's all their fault those lazy drunken Indians >:(

And all this happened when?


Last residential school closed down in the 1990s.

/Canada (and America's) treatment of Aboriginals is absolutely disgraceful
//both historically and today
 
2012-06-11 09:34:41 PM  

OscarTamerz: They're just a bunch of drunk Eskimos so of course they're going to have the hell gouged out of them. If they had a modicum of ambition they'd set up a food collective, drive the store out of business and sell the food themselves. But that would require them to not get drunk all day every day. Just drive a truck down the Dempster Highway and buy all the food they want for a decent price and bring it back. It wouldn't take too many $65 chickens to finance the project. But that would require someone to forgo getting drunk for 4 days, too big of a sacrifice for Little Bear and his squaw.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x480]


Actually it is not even that easy.

The Dempster is 550 miles of gravel, washouts, axle--busters and other hazards, built over the permafrost through the Yukon. It is a horrible highway--but at least it is there; you can drive it.

Nunavut has none of these "modern" conveniences. The northernmost road is 150 miles from Hudson Bay, and terminates at 56 degrees north; towns are at 64 degrees, which is about 600 miles away. There are no roads at all that far north.

There are no seaports to speak of, except or Churchill, which is frozen in 9 months of the year.

Any of you Farkers think you can make a killing hauling freight across terrain the locals can't manage with all their skill-----just try it!

Easier said than done, that's why everything costs so much.
 
2012-06-11 09:35:51 PM  

Indubitably: Moosecakes: Marcus Aurelius: Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS

Or at least eat things native to Nunavut. Like not cabbage
That $105 water is outrageous but even so. Why buy water at all?

Cabbage is high in nutrients and cheap in the Americas: extra-chargers are usurers...


WTF else is new, you farking twits?

Grow some syllables!

Defeat conglomerated money wherever you cans...

Let's diversify humans, please?

Let us live.
 
2012-06-11 09:36:49 PM  

Indubitably: Boatmech: No Such Agency: fickenchucker:
So sick and tired hearing about Indians/Native Americans/Aboriginals/First Nations or whatever you want to call native cultures that want the benefits of modern society without learning how to assimilate. There's a reason why a miniscule percentage of humanity live the way they live--there's no way to make a modern living with their education and work ethic as compared to their traditional culture.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.

You left out the part where we set them up to fail, forced to live on the worst land we could find, dragging their children away to be buggered, terrorized and brainwashed in Christian residential schools (they were beaten for speaking their Native language), robbing them of what riches their land later was found to have, and generally screwing them over seven ways from Sunday. Yeah, it's all their fault those lazy drunken Indians >:(

And all this happened when?

Look it up, slowbie.


Indubitably: Boatmech: No Such Agency: fickenchucker:
So sick and tired hearing about Indians/Native Americans/Aboriginals/First Nations or whatever you want to call native cultures that want the benefits of modern society without learning how to assimilate. There's a reason why a miniscule percentage of humanity live the way they live--there's no way to make a modern living with their education and work ethic as compared to their traditional culture.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.

You left out the part where we set them up to fail, forced to live on the worst land we could find, dragging their children away to be buggered, terrorized and brainwashed in Christian residential schools (they were beaten for speaking their Native language), robbing them of what riches their land later was found to have, and generally screwing them over seven ways from Sunday. Yeah, it's all their fault those lazy drunken Indians >:(

And all this happened when?

Look it up, slowbie.


Indubitably: Boatmech: No Such Agency: fickenchucker:
So sick and tired hearing about Indians/Native Americans/Aboriginals/First Nations or whatever you want to call native cultures that want the benefits of modern society without learning how to assimilate. There's a reason why a miniscule percentage of humanity live the way they live--there's no way to make a modern living with their education and work ethic as compared to their traditional culture.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.

You left out the part where we set them up to fail, forced to live on the worst land we could find, dragging their children away to be buggered, terrorized and brainwashed in Christian residential schools (they were beaten for speaking their Native language), robbing them of what riches their land later was found to have, and generally screwing them over seven ways from Sunday. Yeah, it's all their fault those lazy drunken Indians >:(

And all this happened when?

Look it up, slowbie.


Why? I'm not the one sitting on my ass biatching about how mistreated my grandpa was while asking for more free stuff.

Modernize and assimilate or STFU.
 
2012-06-11 09:37:03 PM  
For the geographically challenged:

upload.wikimedia.org

Nunavut is red

/hot (not usually in Nunavut)
 
2012-06-11 09:38:11 PM  
Ooops, sorry
 
2012-06-11 09:40:25 PM  
www.jamescronen.com

Cheaper than water.

WTF is wrong with this system?

/hot... best served ice cold
 
2012-06-11 09:41:46 PM  

Boatmech: Ooops, sorry


S'okay, man.

I suspect you're oversimplifying the whole scenario, so...

S'ooops?

P.S. Three syllables.
 
2012-06-11 09:42:05 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: leevis: Perhaps you'd prefer the die-hard leftists goal of food rationing.

I'm a die-hard leftist and I don't support food rationing. Your move.


Well good for you. The first thing I thought of when I read your earlier post was a half-wit college professor I had several years back. She practically wet herself talking about how wonderful it would be if everybody had their entire life laid out for them when they were born, and all production and consumption was predetermined by the government.
And don't worry about taking a vacation or even a leave of absence, they won't leave you with enough take-home pay to even think about saving anything. THIS WAS IN OUR TEXTBOOK. This same professor also tried to say that scientists from the Soviet Union, which didn't even exist until the end of WW1, invented a light bulb before Thomas Edison.
 
2012-06-11 09:44:13 PM  
I hear the char is very reasonable.
 
2012-06-11 09:46:14 PM  
Couldn't they simply resort to cannibalism? I'd start with that annoying little girl holding the sign, "I need milk, waaah, waaaaahhh!!"

I can't believe it's not chicken!
 
2012-06-11 09:46:55 PM  
Watch a few episodes of Ice Road Truckers. Most of those small towns in the north are only accesible by trucks for a short period in the winter. Boat or plane the rest of the year.
 
2012-06-11 09:47:35 PM  
foo
 
2012-06-11 09:47:44 PM  

leevis: shower_in_my_socks: leevis: Perhaps you'd prefer the die-hard leftists goal of food rationing.

I'm a die-hard leftist and I don't support food rationing. Your move.

Well good for you. The first thing I thought of when I read your earlier post was a half-wit college professor I had several years back. She practically wet herself talking about how wonderful it would be if everybody had their entire life laid out for them when they were born, and all production and consumption was predetermined by the government.
And don't worry about taking a vacation or even a leave of absence, they won't leave you with enough take-home pay to even think about saving anything. THIS WAS IN OUR TEXTBOOK. This same professor also tried to say that scientists from the Soviet Union, which didn't even exist until the end of WW1, invented a light bulb before Thomas Edison.


Thomas Edison didn't invent the lightbulb. The Wright Brothers didn't invent airplanes. Alexander Graham Bell was Canadian. They had silk in Scotland in the 8th century.

That being said, that professor was a dumbass, not a leftist. I don't know a single "leftist" who wishes that the government planned out their life for them AND furthermore believe that THAT sort of thinking is a right-winger train of thought.

Meh, whatever. They're all suckers for drinking bottled water instead of from the tap... or from melting snow. I mean, WTF did the Inuit do before there was bottled water?
 
2012-06-11 09:48:50 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: [learnsomethingnewtoday.us image 250x253]
Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS


By Gods He Has It!
Settled then? G'day!
 
2012-06-11 09:49:59 PM  
Hello to all my friends in Iqaluit! Mr. Lemon, wassup! Hope your mom is doing well!
 
2012-06-11 09:54:24 PM  

Indubitably: Boatmech: Ooops, sorry

S'okay, man.

I suspect you're oversimplifying the whole scenario, so...

S'ooops?

P.S. Three syllables.

~double posts sux~

Yes, but as somebody who looked around, decided there were better places to live than where I was at and GTFO I've got zero sympathy and a lot of contempt for people that choose (yeah it is a choice) stay in these situations for generation after generation.
 
2012-06-11 09:57:43 PM  
 
2012-06-11 09:57:47 PM  

Boatmech: Indubitably: Boatmech: Ooops, sorry

S'okay, man.

I suspect you're oversimplifying the whole scenario, so...

S'ooops?

P.S. Three syllables.
~double posts sux~

Yes, but as somebody who looked around, decided there were better places to live than where I was at and GTFO I've got zero sympathy and a lot of contempt for people that choose (yeah it is a choice) stay in these situations for generation after generation.


~noted but careless~

How nice for you. Glad you moved?

;)
 
2012-06-11 09:59:14 PM  
If you would like to learn more on the monopoly held by Northern Stores in remote communities check out the Aboriginal Peoples Television Network's investigative piece on it:

Monopoly: Northern Store Edition
Link
Here's their story on the prices:

APTN News
Link
 
2012-06-11 09:59:30 PM  
I can't imagine living up there. The farking average high temperature in summer is in the upper 40's.
 
2012-06-11 10:02:10 PM  

bmr68: Watch a few episodes of Ice Road Truckers. Most of those small towns in the north are only accesible by trucks for a short period in the winter. Boat or plane the rest of the year.


So? The only way to get to where I am is boat or plane. If you choose to live in a remote location don't biatch when reality kicks in.
 
2012-06-11 10:02:22 PM  
I'm buying a plane ticket to fly up there, troll the locals, and then sell the airplane salad for 900 dollars. Step 3: profit.
 
2012-06-11 10:03:08 PM  

9beers: According to Google, the capital, Iqaluit, has a Kentucky Fried Chicken. I wonder how much they charge for some delicious chicken?


For a bucket of KFC, $44.00
Source: http://relocatecanada.com/nunavut/index.html

During the Klondike Gold Rush, fresh eggs sold for as much as $1.00 each, which is a lot more than the cost of eggs in Nunuvut is only $3.00.
 
2012-06-11 10:05:22 PM  

Indubitably: Boatmech: Indubitably: Boatmech: Ooops, sorry

S'okay, man.

I suspect you're oversimplifying the whole scenario, so...

S'ooops?

P.S. Three syllables.
~double posts sux~

Yes, but as somebody who looked around, decided there were better places to live than where I was at and GTFO I've got zero sympathy and a lot of contempt for people that choose (yeah it is a choice) stay in these situations for generation after generation.

~noted but careless~

How nice for you. Glad you moved?

;)


Yes.
 
2012-06-11 10:07:33 PM  
I've been reading and reading... No one has commented on this part yet

Meanwhile, a family of four on social assistance in Nunavut would get about $275 to $325 a week for food.

Well, what % of the people are on social assistance? Would the prices be as high if there wasn't that much government money around?

What these people need is a little coordination and a food co-op. I know that's about as hippy dippy as more welfare or price controls, but it would create a non-profit source for food that is responsible to it's members. But in my twisted book a co-op can be as effective as capitalism in bringing progress to it's members. Look at The Grange.

The motto of the Grange is: "In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity."

Oh, and maybe you need to forego the fresh products. If you want milk get it in bulk pallets of UHT room temp stable product, not the "just about to go bad" refrigerated stuff most of the western world drinks. Fully frozen or canned meats and veg. I don't know a good substitute for Wonder Bread, but I can buy frozen loafs of brown and serve as well as some really hippy dippy breads.

And if you're worried about getting the right amount of fluoride in your water I bet the Gates Foundation and Britta would be ready to step up with a product. It's not just people above the arctic circle who could benefit from filtered water with a trace of fluoride.

For most of us transportation is a surprisingly small part of our food cost. Even if you have to rally everything at a central point before moving it north 1500 miles it shouldn't be the bulk of the price. Wastage is always a big part of produce, meat and dairy prices.
 
2012-06-11 10:08:03 PM  
Well, at least they get their ice cream treats cheap, right?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-11 10:12:56 PM  

9beers: I can't imagine living up there. The farking average high temperature in summer is in the upper 40's.


Too young. O wait, never mind. cuckle. My boss was in greenland when he was in the army in the late 60's and said the indigenous people would try to present their daughters to mate.
 
2012-06-11 10:14:41 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: [learnsomethingnewtoday.us image 250x253]
Maybe they should MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS


Aaannd we're done here.
 
2012-06-11 10:14:59 PM  

six hour delay question mark: I'm buying a plane ticket to fly up there, troll the locals, and then sell the airplane salad for 900 dollars. Step 3: profit.


The plane will sell you a salad for 895. Enjoy you 5 bucks in the cold.
 
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