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(Townhall)   Poll taxes actually allow people to view voting as a patriotic sacrifice rather than just another government handout   (townhall.com ) divider line
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2012-06-11 05:32:34 PM  
poleskivvies.com
Why are we placing an extra tax on these hard working people???
Won't someone think of the strippers??
 
2012-06-11 05:35:39 PM  
After the ability to vote was extended to all races by the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment, many Southern states enacted poll tax laws as a means of restricting eligible voters; such laws often included a grandfather clause, which allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax. These laws, along with unfairly implemented literacy tests and extra-legal intimidation,[1] achieved the desired effect of disfranchising African-American and Native American voters, as well as poor whites.

Go fark yourself, TownHall
 
2012-06-11 05:36:32 PM  

Jackson Herring: After the ability to vote was extended to all races by the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment, many Southern states enacted poll tax laws as a means of restricting eligible voters; such laws often included a grandfather clause, which allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax. These laws, along with unfairly implemented literacy tests and extra-legal intimidation,[1] achieved the desired effect of disfranchising African-American and Native American voters, as well as poor whites.

Go fark yourself, TownHall


This.
 
2012-06-11 05:36:55 PM  
Weird. I always viewed it as a right guaranteed to all American citizens by the Constitution.
 
2012-06-11 05:36:56 PM  
Poll taxes actually allow people to view voting as a patriotic sacrifice rather than just another government handout are farking illegal no matter what you call them or whatever fraudulent scheme you have going to enforce them.

FTFY

/looking at you, republicans
 
2012-06-11 05:38:18 PM  
It's time to play Good Solution, GOP Solution

Problem: voters don't want to vote for you.
Good solution: convince voters to vote for you.
GOP solution: prevent voters from voting.
 
2012-06-11 05:38:46 PM  
We should make it so only millionaires can vote. Also, you have to have inherited your millions.
 
2012-06-11 05:38:49 PM  
Can I have whatever Townhall is smoking?
 
2012-06-11 05:39:07 PM  
WI was a test-balloon. Conservatives are now moving in for the kill on democracy as a whole.
 
2012-06-11 05:39:48 PM  
How can he possibly conclude that voting - the privilege to make one's voice heard as part of the ongoing deliberations central to our enterprise of advancing human freedom - should be as easy "as getting a glass of fresh water?"

Star Parker is making sure she can keep that "privilege" - as long as she continues toting their water, the right wing will consider her to be "one of the good ones."
 
2012-06-11 05:39:50 PM  
The worst part was when she advocated child molestation.
 
2012-06-11 05:41:02 PM  
Farking treasonous bastards.
 
2012-06-11 05:41:07 PM  
We finally found taxes that Republicans love:

Poll taxes!
 
2012-06-11 05:41:09 PM  
You know, say what you want about constitutionality, but confiscating everyone's gun would reduce the crime rate. And nationalizing industries would go a long way toward smoothing out social inequities and wealth disparity.

Hey, I'm just pointing that out. No need to attack the messenger.

/problem?
 
2012-06-11 05:41:29 PM  
Fark you, TownHall.

/I heard that Democrat-supported unions forced the Republicans to free the slaves, and things have gotten worse ever since
 
2012-06-11 05:41:41 PM  

WizardofToast: Can I have whatever Townhall is smoking?


Me too. It must be damn good. I hear mescaline and peyote are pretty awesome.
 
2012-06-11 05:41:51 PM  
Urge... to kill... rising...
 
2012-06-11 05:42:18 PM  
To their credit, they've actually walked their original idea back a bit.

/still stupid and illegal
//but making progress
 
2012-06-11 05:42:42 PM  
That Overton Window has basically moved all the way to Guam by now, hasn't it.
 
2012-06-11 05:42:59 PM  

Endrick: Won't someone think of the strippers??


Well, if you insist.
 
2012-06-11 05:43:02 PM  

Jackson Herring: extra-legal intimidation,


Extra-legal means really really legal, right?
 
2012-06-11 05:43:11 PM  
So taxes are patriotic sacrifice now?
 
2012-06-11 05:43:12 PM  
Because the sacred right to vote is something we don't normally question. Like breathing. We don't wake up every day trying to re-win all the rights and freedoms our forebearers have already won for us.
 
2012-06-11 05:43:13 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: How can he possibly conclude that voting - the privilege to make one's voice heard as part of the ongoing deliberations central to our enterprise of advancing human freedom - should be as easy "as getting a glass of fresh water?"

Star Parker is making sure she can keep that "privilege" - as long as she continues toting their water, the right wing will consider her to be "one of the good ones."


TRANSLATION: Star Parker, in the GOP New Order, would rather be treated like a pet instead of as cattle.
 
2012-06-11 05:43:18 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: How can he possibly conclude that voting - the privilege to make one's voice heard as part of the ongoing deliberations central to our enterprise of advancing human freedom - should be as easy "as getting a glass of fresh water?"

Star Parker is making sure she can keep that "privilege" - as long as she continues toting their water, the right wing will consider her to be "one of the good ones."


Just highlighting that word again. The fail bears repeating.
 
2012-06-11 05:43:59 PM  

vernonFL: We finally found taxes that Republicans love:

Poll taxes!


SilentStrider: So taxes are patriotic sacrifice now?


Only if it's a tax that matters to poor people.
 
2012-06-11 05:44:02 PM  
Okay, what's the strategy the League of Fail will take when they get to this thread? Bets?

I'm going with ACORN and Black Panthers.
 
2012-06-11 05:44:31 PM  

SilentStrider: So taxes are patriotic sacrifice now?


I'm sure they will accept that same reasoning if we tax the big corps.

(They won't.)
 
2012-06-11 05:44:42 PM  

SilentStrider: So taxes are patriotic sacrifice now?


They've always been. Unless you happen to hate them while benefiting from them. You know, because eagles and NEVAR FORGET.
 
2012-06-11 05:44:59 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: You know, say what you want about constitutionality, but confiscating everyone's gun would reduce the crime rate. And nationalizing industries would go a long way toward smoothing out social inequities and wealth disparity.

Hey, I'm just pointing that out. No need to attack the messenger.

/problem?


I like the cut of your jib.

I say we take everyone's guns away. Gun owners have been lazy and have taken their right for granted for far too long. We'd be doing them a favor. They'd learn to truly appreciate their right to gun ownership. Isn't that a good thing?
 
2012-06-11 05:46:05 PM  

WizardofToast: I'm sure they will accept that same reasoning if we tax the big corps.


They already buy votes surreptitiously, why not just let them do it where everyone can see?
 
2012-06-11 05:46:36 PM  
Unless you are just paying lip-service to the ideals upon which this country was founded, EVERYONE (that is 18+) should get to vote. Period. Election day should be on a weekend or declared a national holiday so everyone that is eligible to do so can go vote.
 
2012-06-11 05:46:58 PM  

Lord_Baull: Weird. I always viewed it as a right guaranteed to all American citizens by the Constitution.


More to the point, it is a natural right we have by virtue of our existence. Government can't "hand out" what we already have; government's only job is to protect that right, and to make that right as accessible to us as possible.

You'd think the constitution-loving conservatives at TownHall would understand that. Unless you understand the conservatives at TownHall, then you know they don't.
 
2012-06-11 05:47:02 PM  

Diogenes: Mr_Fabulous: You know, say what you want about constitutionality, but confiscating everyone's gun would reduce the crime rate. And nationalizing industries would go a long way toward smoothing out social inequities and wealth disparity.

Hey, I'm just pointing that out. No need to attack the messenger.

/problem?

I like the cut of your jib.

I say we take everyone's guns away. Gun owners have been lazy and have taken their right for granted for far too long. We'd be doing them a favor. They'd learn to truly appreciate their right to gun ownership. Isn't that a good thing?


I think we could really make headway if we apply this to other things. Let's start with quartering soldiers and see how it goes from there.
 
2012-06-11 05:47:39 PM  

Epoch_Zero: They've always been. Unless you happen to hate them while benefiting from them. You know, because eagles and NEVAR FORGET.


desiglitters.com

I like my approach subtle.
 
2012-06-11 05:47:39 PM  

theorellior: That Overton Window has basically moved all the way to Guam by now, hasn't it.


Funny thing Glenn Beck never mentions, is that the Overton Window gets smaller and less significant the further away it moves from the center.
 
2012-06-11 05:48:57 PM  
These people would be much more comfortable in a third world country. Low or easily avoided taxes, no worker rights, armed gangs enforcing traditional family values, and if you're on top it's easy to grind your boot into the people below you. America just isn't their style.
 
2012-06-11 05:49:05 PM  

theorellior: Okay, what's the strategy the League of Fail will take when they get to this thread? Bets?

I'm going with ACORN and Black Panthers.


Probably also some connection to Buffet and/or Soros.
 
2012-06-11 05:49:15 PM  
Hold on.

The woman who wrote "Uncle Sam's Plantation: How Big Government Enslaves America's Poor and What We Can Do About It" actually wrote this:

Black leaders do damage to our nation, and to our black citizens, to call requirements for a modicum of personal responsibility in order to vote racism.

That's right. She's biatching about the race card when she played it in the farking title of her farking book.

Recently Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) appeared on Chris Matthews' Hardball show and in discussion about voter ID laws he said that voting should be as easy as "getting a glass of fresh water."

He equated requiring a picture ID to vote to Jim Crow laws and poll taxes.

It is particularly troubling to hear this from Lewis, a battle scarred veteran of the civil rights movement.

...

Certainly someone who put his life on the line struggling for civil rights, like John Lewis, should know this.


Maybe he has a different view than her specifically BECAUSE he put his life on the line.

Nah, it must be in spite of all that. I'm sure Star Parker has a better handle on civil rights and voting rights than John Lewis. That makes much more sense.

The same Star Parker who has explained that she has the life she has now because she lived on welfare and had multiple abortions - but that no one else should have access to either one. She was able to get off that "plantation" (HER WORD) but she somehow thinks she's special and that other people in poverty can't get out without her "help."

Fark her.
 
2012-06-11 05:49:20 PM  
Well I see someone is literal as hell.
 
2012-06-11 05:49:26 PM  
So paying taxes is now patriotic?
 
2012-06-11 05:49:43 PM  

theorellior: Epoch_Zero: They've always been. Unless you happen to hate them while benefiting from them. You know, because eagles and NEVAR FORGET.

[desiglitters.com image 290x400]

I like my approach subtle.


The poll taxes will go towards capturing every eagle in the country and painting their feathers with the appropriate red and blue stripes, lined with glitter for extra liberty.
 
2012-06-11 05:50:33 PM  

Epoch_Zero: theorellior: Epoch_Zero: They've always been. Unless you happen to hate them while benefiting from them. You know, because eagles and NEVAR FORGET.

[desiglitters.com image 290x400]

I like my approach subtle.

The poll taxes will go towards capturing every eagle in the country and painting their feathers with the appropriate red and blue stripes, lined with glitter for extra liberty.


Farking Twilight fans.
 
2012-06-11 05:50:36 PM  

you are a puppet: We should make it so only millionaires can vote. Also, you have to have inherited your millions.


Oh, once they get the first part the second part follows. You won't be allowed to make millions after millionaires have the only votes.
 
2012-06-11 05:51:27 PM  

fusillade762: rufus-t-firefly: How can he possibly conclude that voting - the privilege to make one's voice heard as part of the ongoing deliberations central to our enterprise of advancing human freedom - should be as easy "as getting a glass of fresh water?"

Star Parker is making sure she can keep that "privilege" - as long as she continues toting their water, the right wing will consider her to be "one of the good ones."

Just highlighting that word again. The fail bears repeating.


And repeating.

Her use of the word "privilege" to describe voting rights tells you all you need to know without needing to wade into the article and getting your boots covered in derp.
 
2012-06-11 05:51:59 PM  

Lord_Baull: Weird. I always viewed it as a right guaranteed to all American citizens by the Constitution.


Check again. Children can't vote. Neither can many convicted felons.
 
2012-06-11 05:52:29 PM  
Instead of poll taxes, how about tests? Covering history (there go the teatards), science (bu-bye fundies) and, say, either civics or economics ( that'll take care of a few idiots). Might not let everyone vote, but those that do, will at least have a better grasp of things.
 
2012-06-11 05:52:35 PM  
The TH comments for this article are prime trolling grounds.
 
2012-06-11 05:53:36 PM  

logic523: Lord_Baull: Weird. I always viewed it as a right guaranteed to all American citizens by the Constitution.

Check again. Children can't vote. Neither can many convicted felons.


That's because those restrictions pass strict scrutiny for having a compelling state interest and being implemented through the narrowest possible means.
 
2012-06-11 05:53:45 PM  

theorellior: That Overton Window has basically moved all the way to Guam by now, hasn't it.


img221.imageshack.us

We need to think of some good Overton/goalposts* photoshops, because we're gonna be getting a LOT of mileage from them this election.

*Yes, I know they're technically not the same thing, but both apply
 
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