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(UEFA)   Group D: France and England at 12:00 EST followed by Ukraine vs Sweden at 2:45. Will England survive without Rooney? Is France ready to make a comeback to the national stage? Will anyone actually watch the second game? Fun starts at noon   (uefa.com) divider line 241
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2012-06-11 11:25:16 AM  
Meh, Frogs v. Limeys was a better headline.
 
2012-06-11 11:29:53 AM  
The second game? I hope Ibrahimovic's ankle explodes in fire.

/In before "Way to wish harm on someone, douchebag"
 
2012-06-11 11:30:30 AM  
Oxlade-Chamberlain starts.

No idea what the result will be, just hope that triumph and disaster - those twin imposters - are treated the same.
 
2012-06-11 11:31:36 AM  
Ha ha - the Ukraine. Do you know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine.
 
2012-06-11 11:32:02 AM  
Maluda always seems to score in these matches
 
2012-06-11 11:32:30 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Ha ha - the Ukraine. Do you know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine.


Ukraine is game to you?!
 
2012-06-11 11:32:43 AM  
 
2012-06-11 11:34:28 AM  
France 2-1 Ingerland
Ukraine 1-1 Sweden
 
2012-06-11 11:35:22 AM  
Father-in-law is from England, so needless to say, I am solidly in the French corner today. Also, Laurent Blanc is one cool mother farker.
 
2012-06-11 11:43:19 AM  
bracing myself for shots of Ribery by looking at pictures of Giroud

i132.photobucket.com

/I also miss Gourcuff waaaah
 
2012-06-11 11:45:04 AM  

SigmaAlgebra: Father-in-law is from England, so needless to say, I am solidly in the French corner today. Also, Laurent Blanc is one cool mother farker.



i don't care who wins but for sheer Fail Factor alone, it would be nice to see France get ragdolled and be 3 and done, 0 points and not advance, just like they did in WC 2010. i mean, England didn't set the world on fire in 2010 eitehr but at least they advanced.
 
2012-06-11 11:45:13 AM  
What happened to Rooney?

Not much of a soccer fan,
 
2012-06-11 11:49:13 AM  
It's so nice to watch an internation tourney with quality soccer and no vuvuvuvuvuvuvuvuvzellas
 
2012-06-11 11:49:21 AM  

halfof33: What happened to Rooney?

Not much of a soccer fan,


he decided he wanted a little suspension...so, he's not playing today

/and fans of the colors blue and yellow will watch the second game.
 
2012-06-11 11:49:25 AM  

halfof33: What happened to Rooney?

Not much of a soccer fan,


Banned for the first 2 games.
 
2012-06-11 11:50:37 AM  
Ashley Young moving to CF for the match? Did I hear that correctly? Probably CAM.
 
2012-06-11 11:50:50 AM  

Purple_Jack: Banned for the first 2 games.



for stomping that dude's ballbag right? macedonia or cyrpurs or montenegro or whatever, something liek that?

farking moron.
 
2012-06-11 11:53:55 AM  

star_topology: Ashley Young moving to CF for the match? Did I hear that correctly? Probably CAM.


UEFA's site has England's formation as 4-4-1-1 with Young behind Welbeck.
 
2012-06-11 11:54:39 AM  

star_topology: Ashley Young moving to CF for the match? Did I hear that correctly? Probably CAM.


Might be a front three. Or Oxlade-Chamberlain on the right-MF and given an attacking role.
 
2012-06-11 11:56:32 AM  
allez les bleus!
 
2012-06-11 11:57:28 AM  
Ashley Cole and John Terry were out of sync singing the anthem
 
2012-06-11 11:58:09 AM  
I don't like it when players don't sing along with their national anthem. France, you suck, and will lose 2-1.
 
2012-06-11 11:59:02 AM  
Jeremy Clarkson on twitter with his prediction: I predict the French will surrender.

/Go England
//At least no important Liverpool players get injured
 
2012-06-11 11:59:47 AM  

desertgeek: Jeremy Clarkson on twitter with his prediction: I predict the French will surrender.

/Go England
//At least no important Liverpool players get injured


is Gerrard impotant?
 
2012-06-11 12:00:17 PM  

SigmaAlgebra: UEFA's site has England's formation as 4-4-1-1 with Young behind Welbeck.



somebody i think saturday had what i called a "1-2-2-1-2-1" or some shiat. it was basically a 2-4-4 but by the on-screen diagram it moreso resembled 1-1-2-1-1-2-1 or some kind of bs like that.

/i thought it was funny
 
2012-06-11 12:00:29 PM  

star_topology: Ashley Young moving to CF for the match? Did I hear that correctly? Probably CAM.


why not just all midfielders?
 
2012-06-11 12:02:06 PM  
Looks like "Stadiums of Hate" worked- think this is the smallest crowd I've seen so far.
 
2012-06-11 12:02:15 PM  
Everyone seems to know the score,
They've seen it all before,
They just know,
They're so sure,
That England's Gonna throw it away,
Gonna blow it away,
But know they can play,
'Cause I remember...
Three Lions on a shirt,
Jules Rimet still gleaming,
Thirty years of hurt,
Never stopped me dreaming.
So many jokes, so many sneers,
But all those oh-so-nears,
Wear you down,
Through the years,
But I still see that tackle by Moore,
And when Linekar scored,
Bobby belting the ball,
And Nobby Dancing...
 
2012-06-11 12:02:23 PM  

expobill: desertgeek: Jeremy Clarkson on twitter with his prediction: I predict the French will surrender.

/Go England
//At least no important Liverpool players get injured

is Gerrard impotant?


That misspelling is closer to the actual word I would use, in his case.
 
2012-06-11 12:02:45 PM  

expobill: desertgeek: Jeremy Clarkson on twitter with his prediction: I predict the French will surrender.

/Go England
//At least no important Liverpool players get injured

is Gerrard impotant?


Think he's already got a daughter.

/sorry - had to
 
2012-06-11 12:02:52 PM  
My shiatty cable provider does not have access to ESPN3. Anyone have a streaming link?
 
2012-06-11 12:03:05 PM  
Does anyone else find McManamanamanamanaman's accent grating?
 
2012-06-11 12:03:58 PM  

halfof33: What happened to Rooney?

Not much of a soccer fan,


he got hair plugs but his body rejected them and now he's injured. It's called GVH and it's devastating.
 
2012-06-11 12:04:10 PM  

expobill: desertgeek: Jeremy Clarkson on twitter with his prediction: I predict the French will surrender.

/Go England
//At least no important Liverpool players get injured

is Gerrard impotant?


He's not THAT old
 
2012-06-11 12:06:58 PM  

expobill: desertgeek: Jeremy Clarkson on twitter with his prediction: I predict the French will surrender.

/Go England
//At least no important Liverpool players get injured

is Gerrard impotant?


He's not the player he once was, that's obvious. But he's still the captain and that means something.

/NIAC
 
2012-06-11 12:07:11 PM  
I wish I was a "Danger Man."
 
2012-06-11 12:08:13 PM  
Carn whoever's playing the Poms!
 
2012-06-11 12:10:26 PM  

desertgeek: He's not the player he once was, that's obvious. But he's still the captain and that means something.

i just had to rattle the thread a bit, i still miss Riise!
 
2012-06-11 12:12:37 PM  
somebody lost a camera
 
2012-06-11 12:13:09 PM  
Guardian analysis on tactics: Link
 
2012-06-11 12:14:39 PM  
Come on England!
 
2012-06-11 12:15:07 PM  
Milner Torres'd it.
 
2012-06-11 12:15:14 PM  
Any suggestions for a good streaming site? It's ridiculous that I live in Europe and can't get the damn games on TV.

/fark you NRK
 
2012-06-11 12:15:54 PM  
You had time, Milner!
 
2012-06-11 12:16:10 PM  
Heeey US Soccer crest! Represent!
 
2012-06-11 12:16:49 PM  

december: halfof33: What happened to Rooney?

Not much of a soccer fan,

he got hair plugs but his body rejected them and now he's injured. It's called GVH and it's devastating.


Approves

www.citizenorange.com
 
2012-06-11 12:17:39 PM  
 
2012-06-11 12:20:07 PM  

twomutts: Any suggestions for a good streaming site? It's ridiculous that I live in Europe and can't get the damn games on TV.

/fark you NRK


I have ESPN3 so I can't vouch for the quality of any of these streams but these are the sites I typically use:
oleoletv.com
firstrowsports.eu
sportzkrieg.com
vipbox.tv
 
2012-06-11 12:20:18 PM  
I like the English goalie's uni.
 
2012-06-11 12:20:41 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: Heeey US Soccer crest! Represent!


I'm telling you, everyone is making a mistake in counting the Yanks out from winning the Euros.
 
2012-06-11 12:23:00 PM  
english pig dogs vs french taunters.
 
2012-06-11 12:23:27 PM  

desertgeek: Jeremy Clarkson on twitter with his prediction: I predict the French will surrender.



the only bad thing about this and WC are all the lame jokes about france surrendering, germany blazing through europe ("lol, this is not a repeat from 1939 lol!") and the like.

it is bascially the same as MLB's opening day, when someone hits 2HR, and some frsutrated standup comedian on ESPN trots out the ever fresh, completely not farked out "WELP HE'S ON PACE TO HIT 324 HOMERS THIS YEAR LOL!!!!!" joke.
 
2012-06-11 12:25:26 PM  

Billy Crystal Meth Lab: TheKnownUniverse: Heeey US Soccer crest! Represent!

I'm telling you, everyone is making a mistake in counting the Yanks out from winning the Euros.


We've got a fighter's chance, but watch out for that Leo Messi fellow, I think he could single-handedly beat Portugal.
 
2012-06-11 12:25:44 PM  
Terry is facing charges on racial abuse? What's that all about?
 
2012-06-11 12:26:33 PM  
I'm rooting for what Bane does to the football game in "The Dark Knight Rises"
 
2012-06-11 12:26:35 PM  
France has nothing at all working in the attacking third. Good organization by Ingerland
 
2012-06-11 12:27:39 PM  

expobill: twomutts: Any suggestions for a good streaming site?


You are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you sir!

Go tre kroner!!
 
2012-06-11 12:28:24 PM  

Harry Zach OBalls: Terry is facing charges on racial abuse? What's that all about?


On my phone, so just google John Terry Anton Ferdinand and you'll find it
 
2012-06-11 12:30:37 PM  
Wow!
 
2012-06-11 12:30:45 PM  
Lescott!
 
2012-06-11 12:30:45 PM  
Yes!
 
2012-06-11 12:30:52 PM  
France surrenders the first goal!
 
2012-06-11 12:30:54 PM  
GOAL!!!!!
 
2012-06-11 12:31:21 PM  
Here's to you, Guy Dressed Like a Knight!
 
2012-06-11 12:31:22 PM  
If The Ox had sunk that, I'd be happy.

But it was Lescott. So fark 'em.
 
2012-06-11 12:31:26 PM  
cheeky bastards! They're not that drunk!
 
2012-06-11 12:32:10 PM  
Yaaaaaay

I like Gerrard's balls.
 
2012-06-11 12:33:23 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: Yaaaaaay

I like Gerrard's balls.


And the sky is blue, water is wet, etc.
 
2012-06-11 12:33:26 PM  
looks like that was more off his face than forehead
 
2012-06-11 12:34:00 PM  
Doesn't it seems like the French goalkeeper should have done better on that goal?
 
2012-06-11 12:35:54 PM  
I'd also like remind everyone that Samir Nasri is a C U Next Tuesday
 
2012-06-11 12:35:58 PM  

halfof33: What happened to Rooney?

Not much of a soccer fan,


Stupid thug shouldn't even be in the squad. England will do very well to get out of the group so he'll have maximum one game. He's not scored in a finals tournament sicne 2004, was integral to the team that didn't even qualify in 2008 and was woeful in the WC 2010. Oh, and England's win loss record is better when he doesn't play. They should have taken Crouch.

England just scored, I predicted 2-1 to France so I'm halfway there.

/Limey
//Feet on the ground.
 
2012-06-11 12:37:21 PM  

Swiss Colony: England will do very well to get out of the group so he'll have maximum one game. He's not scored in a finals tournament sicne 2004, was integral to the team that didn't even qualify in 2008 and was woeful in the WC 2010. Oh, and England's win loss record is better when he doesn't play. They should have taken Crouch.



b-b-b-b--b-bb-bbbbbbut.....ROOOOOOOOO!
 
2012-06-11 12:37:49 PM  
Even the England coaches are getting injured. Who put the voodoo hex on them?
 
2012-06-11 12:39:47 PM  
STILL A COONT.
 
2012-06-11 12:39:52 PM  

Billy Crystal Meth Lab: I'd also like remind everyone that Samir Nasri is a C U Next Tuesday


and an equalizer
 
2012-06-11 12:39:58 PM  
Nice goal, Samir Nasri!
 
2012-06-11 12:40:08 PM  
NIAC

/but give credit where it's due, good shot
 
2012-06-11 12:40:46 PM  

desertgeek: NIAC

/but give credit where it's due, good shot


Everything you said here is true. Especially the first part.
 
2012-06-11 12:40:48 PM  
Joe Hart = Ingerland's new incredibly overrated "star"
 
2012-06-11 12:41:35 PM  
Pentaxian
Doesn't it seems like the French goalkeeper should have done better on that goal?


You can't really do a lot as a goalie if the guy making the header is that close - except making yourself as big as possible and hoping that he'll hit you by accident.
You could try to get the cross, but that's kinda risky if it's a free kick and not a corner.
 
2012-06-11 12:41:53 PM  
God Nasri has such a punchable face
 
2012-06-11 12:42:21 PM  
Dammit

NIAC
 
2012-06-11 12:42:46 PM  
Geez, France is pushing since England's first goal
 
2012-06-11 12:46:45 PM  
On what planet is jumping on your ass with both legs in front and arms up in the air considered good goal keeping?
 
2012-06-11 12:47:04 PM  
middle defense for England is not good
 
2012-06-11 12:47:05 PM  

dietbubba: Dammit

NIAC


www.iranian.com
 
2012-06-11 12:47:29 PM  
All square at half
 
2012-06-11 12:48:26 PM  
Half! Somebody post some hot girls plz
 
2012-06-11 12:50:31 PM  
Sorry, this Ted movie looks like it will be a flaming pile of shiat
 
2012-06-11 12:55:18 PM  
I don't get the NIAC reference. Can someone explain?
 
2012-06-11 12:57:10 PM  

Fat Old Broad: I don't get the NIAC reference. Can someone explain?


NIAC = Nasri is a "C U Next Tuesday"
 
2012-06-11 12:58:49 PM  
Got it. TY. You guys are hilarious!
 
2012-06-11 01:00:51 PM  

desertgeek: TheKnownUniverse: Yaaaaaay

I like Gerrard's balls.

And the sky is blue, water is wet, etc.


Hey it was a great ball. I know he's aging, but his balls are still worth admiring.

/balls
 
2012-06-11 01:05:25 PM  
Just want to duck in here and remind everybody that Samir Nasri is a coont.

Thanks, have a nice second half.
 
2012-06-11 01:10:28 PM  
England keeping the ball well at the moment
 
2012-06-11 01:10:34 PM  
Tsk, and people complain about Italians diving..
 
2012-06-11 01:12:46 PM  
Samir Nasri killed five hookers, so I've heard.

/John Terry was an accomplice.
 
2012-06-11 01:15:08 PM  
That should've been a foul
 
2012-06-11 01:18:55 PM  
My god I hate ITV coverage.
 
2012-06-11 01:22:03 PM  
Steven Gerrard ran over a child and got arrested for a cowardly bar fight (3-on-1).

Sadly, these are not jokes/fabrications.

/he's a douchebag
 
2012-06-11 01:22:38 PM  
Well, this sloooow match certainly is a nice friendly.

*snore*
 
2012-06-11 01:22:53 PM  
Remember, diving only happens on the teams from the soft southern European and South American countries.
 
2012-06-11 01:23:20 PM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7156272/77414787#c77414787" target="_blank">midpoint</a>:</b> <i>My god I hate ITV coverage.</i>

They're no worse than the army of dullards on the BBC.
 
2012-06-11 01:27:04 PM  

The Voice of Doom: Well, this sloooow match certainly is a nice friendly.

*snore*


Really?
 
2012-06-11 01:27:13 PM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7156272/77414902#c77414902" target="_blank">The Voice of Doom</a>:</b> <i>Well, this sloooow match certainly is a nice friendly.

*snore*</i>

This is what you get when 2 big teams meet up in a group match. Nobody wants to lose.

That's why the group format is stupid.
 
2012-06-11 01:28:42 PM  
Looks like the quote function is screwed.
 
2012-06-11 01:28:45 PM  

MugzyBrown: That's why the group format is stupid.


and your brilliant solution?

/fark's html seems to have gone to shiat.
 
2012-06-11 01:29:59 PM  
and your brilliant solution?

Just do knock-outs at this point.
 
2012-06-11 01:30:27 PM  

A Fark Handle: MugzyBrown: That's why the group format is stupid.

and your brilliant solution?

/fark's html seems to have gone to shiat.


Make the tournament bigger with shiattier teams so the big teams can just shiat on little ones apparently.
 
2012-06-11 01:30:57 PM  

A Fark Handle: MugzyBrown: That's why the group format is stupid.

and your brilliant solution?

/fark's html seems to have gone to shiat.


I could maybe see a double elimination group stage, that might be cool.
 
2012-06-11 01:32:40 PM  

MugzyBrown: and your brilliant solution?

Just do knock-outs at this point.


It wouldn't be so bad if this was the second game. The worst are first games and third games when the group is already decided (Argentina vs Netherlands 2006 was the absolute WORST.)
 
2012-06-11 01:32:46 PM  

MugzyBrown: A Fark Handle: and your brilliant solution?

Just do knock-outs at this point.


wouldn't that make seeding really really farking important? where the best two teams could meet in the prequarters (aka round of 16)?
 
2012-06-11 01:34:07 PM  

Pentaxian: Samir Nasri killed five hookers, so I've heard.

/John Terry was an accomplice.


Maybe we should get Joey Barton to beat 'em up or somethin'.
 
2012-06-11 01:34:09 PM  
And yeah, England are diving more than France, FRANCE! There is nothing redeeming about England right now.
 
2012-06-11 01:34:22 PM  
wouldn't that make seeding really really farking important? where the best two teams could meet in the prequarters (aka round of 16)?

If you're the best team, you beat the other teams.. so not really.

Not that hard of a job.. use the stupid fifa rankings if you must.
 
2012-06-11 01:38:36 PM  
I thought that the Brits didn't dive?
 
2012-06-11 01:38:37 PM  
Ever since the England goal, England has sucked.
 
2012-06-11 01:39:14 PM  
bartink
Really?


Well, I think England's last shot towards the French goal must've been their goal in the first half.
France had 2 or 3 attempts from rather a distance.
 
2012-06-11 01:45:55 PM  

MugzyBrown: wouldn't that make seeding really really farking important? where the best two teams could meet in the prequarters (aka round of 16)?

If you're the best team, you beat the other teams.. so not really.

Not that hard of a job.. use the stupid fifa rankings if you must.


Spain lost their first game against Poland in the World Cup, and came back to win it. Besides, in a pure knock out tourney, we'll get stuck w/ 2004 Greece for eternity. Nobody wants that.
 
2012-06-11 01:47:17 PM  
Where was the england players in the box? Too many were back.
 
2012-06-11 01:49:32 PM  

Trocadero: Spain lost their first game against Poland Switzerland in the World Cup, and came back to win it. Besides, in a pure knock out tourney, we'll get stuck w/ 2004 Greece for eternity. Nobody wants that.


Fixed.
 
2012-06-11 01:50:37 PM  

Trocadero: Spain lost their first game against Poland in the World Cup, and came back to win it. Besides, in a pure knock out tourney, we'll get stuck w/ 2004 Greece for eternity. Nobody wants that.


We've had some great matchups with kindal lame games.

France - Englan 1:1
Spain - Italy 1:1

Nobody wants that.

At the end nobody is even getting into the box for France incase they get countered
 
2012-06-11 01:50:38 PM  
This has been a pathetic affair.
 
2012-06-11 01:51:14 PM  
Well that was uninspiring
 
2012-06-11 01:52:15 PM  
Moar shirtless Glen Johnson pls
 
2012-06-11 01:54:01 PM  
I'll take that point.

Some positives for England. Organisation looked good. Toughest game out of the way.

Didn't see the counter attacking pace of Oxlade-C or Young/Walcott though.
 
2012-06-11 01:54:06 PM  
www.derbybusdepot.co.uk
 
2012-06-11 01:54:51 PM  
Hope England can take it up a notch during the rest of the tournament.
 
2012-06-11 01:56:59 PM  
The commentators excuse for the way England played that game? "You have to play to the talent you have".

So England doesn't have the talent to win matches anymore?
 
2012-06-11 01:58:04 PM  
MugzyBrown
We've had some great matchups with kindal lame games.

France - Englan 1:1
Spain - Italy 1:1


I wasn't bored by Spain - Italy.
 
2012-06-11 01:58:13 PM  

kevinatilusa: The commentators excuse for the way England played that game? "You have to play to the talent you have".

So England doesn't have the talent to win matches anymore?


Yes. Where have you been?
 
2012-06-11 01:58:40 PM  

kevinatilusa: The commentators excuse for the way England played that game? "You have to play to the talent you have".

So England doesn't have the talent to win matches anymore?


Not against France without Rooney.
 
2012-06-11 02:00:15 PM  
England was way too passive. From the moment France tied it up, England was playing for the draw. France at least looked like they were trying to win it.
 
2012-06-11 02:12:33 PM  

desertgeek: oment France tied it up, England was playing for the draw. Franc


That was absolutely the intended result. For Hodgson this was mission accomplished. Then stomp the Ukraine and Sweden and make your way out of the group, probably in 2nd.
 
2012-06-11 02:13:04 PM  

MugzyBrown: If you're the best team, you beat the other teams.. so not really.

Not that hard of a job.. use the stupid fifa rankings if you must.


I'd be curious to see how you would have seeded it. If you look at the groups and compare them to FIFA rankings, with the exception of group A you somewhat balanced groups.

And it has the advantage of being less corruptible, which matters with an organization like FIFA.

And Alexi Lalas is an idiot. STFU and let Ballack speak. He's a world class player, you are a once flash in the pan and failed GM.
 
2012-06-11 02:14:09 PM  

desertgeek: England was way too passive. From the moment France tied it up, England was playing for the draw. France at least looked like they were trying to win it.


How is getting the result that puts you in the best chance to get out of the group "too passive"?
 
2012-06-11 02:16:00 PM  
So basically France and England are content to tie and both have the chance to get out of the group, neither would need to play each other again and they probably both see the game against Sweden as their make or break game.

Hope it blows up in their faces.
 
2012-06-11 02:19:30 PM  
Ballack with the pimp hand talking about England
 
2012-06-11 02:21:05 PM  
I'm not sure how to fix this stupid group stage format. Maybe award no points for draws as well and have golden goal extra time. Or maybe add a team to each group but still have only two advance so the points matter more. Straight knockout is probably best but you would lose a ton of travelling fans who are guaranteed three games now.
 
2012-06-11 02:29:12 PM  

drewogatory: I'm not sure how to fix this stupid group stage format. Maybe award no points for draws as well and have golden goal extra time. Or maybe add a team to each group but still have only two advance so the points matter more. Straight knockout is probably best but you would lose a ton of travelling fans who are guaranteed three games now.


don't go crazy bring to fix something that is not that broken.
every match should count
 
2012-06-11 02:35:37 PM  

drewogatory: I'm not sure how to fix this stupid group stage format. Maybe award no points for draws as well and have golden goal extra time. Or maybe add a team to each group but still have only two advance so the points matter more. Straight knockout is probably best but you would lose a ton of travelling fans who are guaranteed three games now.


I think adding a team to each group, but only advancing the top 2 is the best answer and would work well for the Euro tournament. I don't know if that would work for the World Cup because that's such a long tournament as is.
 
2012-06-11 02:35:45 PM  
I recall hearing something about how they do not want more 0-0 ties in the group stage in the next World Cup, and how they were thinking of adding shootout.
 
2012-06-11 02:38:54 PM  
And now, pics of Swedish ladies in the crowd. 3, 2, 1, go.
 
2012-06-11 02:43:47 PM  

desertgeek: drewogatory: I'm not sure how to fix this stupid group stage format. Maybe award no points for draws as well and have golden goal extra time. Or maybe add a team to each group but still have only two advance so the points matter more. Straight knockout is probably best but you would lose a ton of travelling fans who are guaranteed three games now.

I think adding a team to each group, but only advancing the top 2 is the best answer and would work well for the Euro tournament. I don't know if that would work for the World Cup because that's such a long tournament as is.


That would change the number of games per group from 6 to 10, and mean one team wasn't playing per round of games - especially crucial in the last round of games.
 
2012-06-11 02:44:43 PM  

orange storm: I recall hearing something about how they do not want more 0-0 ties in the group stage in the next World Cup, and how they were thinking of adding shootout.


I think in league and group play, a 0-0 draw should award 0 points.

If you can't score, you can't get a point.
 
2012-06-11 02:49:44 PM  

bartink: desertgeek: England was way too passive. From the moment France tied it up, England was playing for the draw. France at least looked like they were trying to win it.

How is getting the result that puts you in the best chance to get out of the group "too passive"?


How is getting two less points putting you in the best chance of getting out of the group?
 
2012-06-11 02:50:22 PM  
"Ukraine Shall Never Perish" now that's the name of a national anthem.
 
2012-06-11 02:50:27 PM  
"It's in how you fry the falafel"

That's a new one I haven't heard before...
 
2012-06-11 02:50:51 PM  

MugzyBrown:

If you can't score, you can't get a point.


football is about defending, first
 
2012-06-11 02:52:12 PM  

Trocadero: "Ukraine Shall Never Perish" now that's the name of a national anthem.


Well, it would be if it were actually the name.
 
2012-06-11 02:52:52 PM  
a lot of Oregon Duck yellow on the field right now
 
2012-06-11 02:54:08 PM  

expobill: MugzyBrown:

If you can't score, you can't get a point.

football is about defending, first


So is every sport that has defense.

Can you win a soccer game without ever putting the ball into the net? No. So you don't deserve a point if you never had a chance of ever winning the game.
 
2012-06-11 02:55:45 PM  
the Ukraine club ran more than england already
 
2012-06-11 02:56:52 PM  

MugzyBrown:

Can you win a soccer game without ever putting the ball into the net? No. So you don't deserve a point if you never had a chance of ever winning the game.


yes on an own goal, but the point is rewarded for being level
 
2012-06-11 02:59:58 PM  

star_topology: And now, pics of Swedish ladies in the crowd. 3, 2, 1, go.


Their players aren't bad looking either.

It's like there are no uggos in that country.
 
2012-06-11 03:03:15 PM  

Fat Old Broad: star_topology: And now, pics of Swedish ladies in the crowd. 3, 2, 1, go.

Their players aren't bad looking either.

It's like there are no uggos in that country.


Except for Zlatan, who might have inherited all of the ugly genes in Sweden.
 
2012-06-11 03:06:25 PM  

expobill: yes on an own goal, but the point is rewarded for being level


An own goal, the ball goes into the net and a point is awarded.. nice try though.
 
2012-06-11 03:07:06 PM  

Fat Old Broad: star_topology: And now, pics of Swedish ladies in the crowd. 3, 2, 1, go.

Their players aren't bad looking either.

It's like there are no uggos in that country.

The Vikings did not bring back uggos
 
2012-06-11 03:08:39 PM  

star_topology: Trocadero: "Ukraine Shall Never Perish" now that's the name of a national anthem.

Well, it would be if it were actually the name.


"ukraine has not yet perished"

not yet? really? for fark's sake it's a nation anthem, have some confidence man.
 
2012-06-11 03:11:32 PM  
ugh! So close!

/distressed Ukrainian ladyfan sighting!
 
2012-06-11 03:12:15 PM  
Shevo!
 
2012-06-11 03:13:12 PM  

Fat Old Broad: star_topology: And now, pics of Swedish ladies in the crowd. 3, 2, 1, go.

Their players aren't bad looking either.

It's like there are no uggos in that country.


on the other side, Shevchenko's still pretty hot for someone who is 100 years old.
 
2012-06-11 03:14:06 PM  
This is a considerably more exciting match, if I'm honest.
 
2012-06-11 03:16:10 PM  
the Poland Russia game should be loud
 
2012-06-11 03:16:33 PM  

Fat Old Broad: star_topology: And now, pics of Swedish ladies in the crowd. 3, 2, 1, go.

Their players aren't bad looking either.

It's like there are no uggos in that country.


Well, they did practice euthanasia until the late 1970's.
 
2012-06-11 03:17:46 PM  
ANIMAL PITCH INVASION

i132.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-11 03:18:02 PM  
And we all flop down
 
2012-06-11 03:18:59 PM  

sephjnr: How is getting two less points putting you in the best chance of getting out of the group?


Very simple. The attempt to try for 3 instead of 1 increases the likelihood of getting 0 more than 3. Given that arguably their best player is serving a suspension, its better to simply survive and open it up during knockout with your full squad.

But you already knew that...
 
2012-06-11 03:21:07 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: ANIMAL PITCH INVASION

[i132.photobucket.com image 519x389]


Blackburn Chicken > Ukrainibug > Anfield Cat
 
2012-06-11 03:23:49 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: ANIMAL PITCH INVASION

[i132.photobucket.com image 519x389]


nice picture!
 
2012-06-11 03:24:14 PM  
TheKnownUniverse
on the other side, Shevchenko's still pretty hot for someone who is 100 years old.


Speaking of 100 year olds, someone should check Ibrahimovic for cobwebs.
 
2012-06-11 03:24:30 PM  
If you like hot blonds, this is your match.
 
2012-06-11 03:25:28 PM  

Trocadero: "Ukraine Shall Never Perish" now that's the name of a national anthem.


Certainly beats the old "Enemies of the State will be liquidated" one.
 
2012-06-11 03:26:47 PM  
Wasted opportunities on both sides.
 
2012-06-11 03:27:09 PM  
lucky goalie
 
2012-06-11 03:27:40 PM  
Anyone else think Keller is pretty damn good for a newbie?
 
2012-06-11 03:28:25 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: on the other side, Shevchenko's still pretty hot for someone who is 100 years old.


His wife is pretty hot too:

img2.bdbphotos.com

There are some NSFW photos of her out there as well.
 
2012-06-11 03:28:42 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: Fat Old Broad: star_topology: And now, pics of Swedish ladies in the crowd. 3, 2, 1, go.

Their players aren't bad looking either.

It's like there are no uggos in that country.

on the other side, Shevchenko's still pretty hot for someone who is 100 years old.


I agree. Their team is also pretty good-looking. Kinda rare for both sides to be so hot.
 
2012-06-11 03:29:06 PM  

star_topology: TheKnownUniverse: ANIMAL PITCH INVASION

[i132.photobucket.com image 519x389]

Blackburn Chicken > Ukrainibug > Anfield Cat


you shut your whore mouth and bow down to the king of football

i132.photobucket.com

i132.photobucket.com

expobill: TheKnownUniverse: ANIMAL PITCH INVASION

[i132.photobucket.com image 519x389]

nice picture!


I was preparing to get blurry screenshots of sexy fans, but a ladybug works too
 
2012-06-11 03:30:40 PM  

bartink: Anyone else think Keller is pretty damn good for a newbie?


Surprisingly good. Better than most ex-players that ESPN wheels on.
 
2012-06-11 03:34:49 PM  

bartink: Anyone else think Keller is pretty damn good for a newbie?


Yeah, not too shabby.
 
2012-06-11 03:36:45 PM  

darwinoid: Surprisingly good. Better than most ex-players that ESPN wheels on.


I think that Ballack is getting better as things go on. But I miss Roberto Martínez.
 
2012-06-11 03:38:21 PM  

Pentaxian: TheKnownUniverse: on the other side, Shevchenko's still pretty hot for someone who is 100 years old.

His wife is pretty hot too:

[img2.bdbphotos.com image 324x430]

There are some NSFW photos of her out there as well.


her thighs are as big as my wrist and her wrists as big as my thumb :/
 
2012-06-11 03:38:28 PM  

Pentaxian: darwinoid: Surprisingly good. Better than most ex-players that ESPN wheels on.

I think that Ballack is getting better as things go on. But I miss Roberto Martínez.


Ballack can be painful to watch/listen to. I agree re Martínez.
 
2012-06-11 03:39:35 PM  
Lively game so far. Much more entertaining than the earlier one.
 
2012-06-11 03:39:39 PM  
Have not noticed any players of color on the Ukraine side. Is that representative of the country as a whole?
 
2012-06-11 03:43:11 PM  

esteban9: Have not noticed any players of color on the Ukraine side. Is that representative of the country as a whole?


Eastern Europe is pretty pale. Remember the Eastern Bloc only became accessible to immigrants 20 years ago.

Wiki has 'Other's' as 1%
 
2012-06-11 03:45:39 PM  

midpoint: esteban9: Have not noticed any players of color on the Ukraine side. Is that representative of the country as a whole?

Eastern Europe is pretty pale. Remember the Eastern Bloc only became accessible to immigrants 20 years ago.

Wiki has 'Other's' as 1%


Also, if you're an immigrant, why go there when you can make more in Western Europe?
 
2012-06-11 03:45:49 PM  

esteban9: Have not noticed any players of color on the Ukraine side. Is that representative of the country as a whole?


The Ukranian manager's words from 2006 seem to hint that there won't be non-white players on the national team any time soon: "Let them learn from Blokhin or [Andriy] Shevchenko, not some zumba-bumba who they took off a tree, gave two bananas and now he plays in the Ukrainian league."
 
2012-06-11 03:48:14 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: her thighs are as big as my wrist and her wrists as big as my thumb :/


And her vagina is as big as your head.
 
2012-06-11 03:49:19 PM  
i132.photobucket.com

i132.photobucket.com

i132.photobucket.com

/stolen from /sp/. I go to 4chan so you don't have to.

and for old time's sake

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-11 03:50:14 PM  

12349876: midpoint: esteban9: Have not noticed any players of color on the Ukraine side. Is that representative of the country as a whole?

Eastern Europe is pretty pale. Remember the Eastern Bloc only became accessible to immigrants 20 years ago.

Wiki has 'Other's' as 1%

Also, if you're an immigrant, why go there when you can make more in Western Europe?


and not face as much racism. not that western europe is always happy go lucky, but eastern europe is filled with racist shiats. hell, in russia they have locked foreign students in their dorms around hitler's birthday for protection against the confused russian neo-nazi. why would a russian be a nazi? you would think history would mean something...
 
2012-06-11 03:53:03 PM  

midpoint: Fat Old Broad: star_topology: And now, pics of Swedish ladies in the crowd. 3, 2, 1, go.

Their players aren't bad looking either.

It's like there are no uggos in that country.

Well, they did practice euthanasia until the late 1970's.


We were just keeping our gene pool clean of scottish DNA. Can you blame us? And you also practiced euthanasia until the late 1990's.
 
2012-06-11 03:56:56 PM  
Sweden!
 
2012-06-11 03:57:05 PM  

ApeShaft: midpoint: Fat Old Broad: star_topology: And now, pics of Swedish ladies in the crowd. 3, 2, 1, go.

Their players aren't bad looking either.

It's like there are no uggos in that country.

Well, they did practice euthanasia until the late 1970's.

We were just keeping our gene pool clean of scottish DNA. Can you blame us? And you also practiced euthanasia until the late 1990's.


This is news to me. Do expand on that. Also - I meant eugenics - not euthanasia. Oops! Long tiring day.

Also, also, I'm in Scotland as part of the Colonial Administration rather than being a native.
 
2012-06-11 03:57:07 PM  
Zlatalalalalalalalan!
 
2012-06-11 03:57:37 PM  
Oh dear. Always a development when the hosts are on the back heel.
 
paj
2012-06-11 03:58:19 PM  
Obligatory for any Ibrahimovic goal: Link
 
2012-06-11 03:59:57 PM  
We're tied!
 
2012-06-11 03:59:58 PM  
THE UKRAINE IS NOT WEAK!
 
2012-06-11 04:00:12 PM  
SHEVCHENKO!
 
2012-06-11 04:00:15 PM  
Wow!! This could be fun!!
 
2012-06-11 04:00:44 PM  
Ukraine has not yet perished!
 
paj
2012-06-11 04:00:46 PM  
The equalizer! Shevchenko brings Ukraine level.
 
2012-06-11 04:01:03 PM  
"The oldest striker in the entire tournament!"

Ugh. I'm going to go eat some bon-bons.
 
2012-06-11 04:02:46 PM  
Shevchenko tells the Swedes to get off his lawn pitch.
 
2012-06-11 04:02:47 PM  

paj: Obligatory for any Ibrahimovic goal: Link


I think some British gambling site uses that guy in their TV ads.
 
2012-06-11 04:03:29 PM  
yessssssss

i132.photobucket.com

thank you, print screen and crap stream
 
2012-06-11 04:05:12 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: yessssssss

[i132.photobucket.com image 578x382]

thank you, print screen and crap stream


those are nice photos.
 
paj
2012-06-11 04:06:26 PM  
Uuuuuukraine!
 
2012-06-11 04:06:32 PM  
wow again!
 
2012-06-11 04:06:38 PM  
Shevchenko tells the Swedes to get off his lawn pitch. Again.
 
2012-06-11 04:06:40 PM  
Uh, you might want to mark him.
 
2012-06-11 04:06:55 PM  
The Ukraine is not weak.
 
2012-06-11 04:07:11 PM  
It's Ukraining Men!
/nothing
 
2012-06-11 04:07:19 PM  
A hat-trick would be nice ...
 
paj
2012-06-11 04:07:26 PM  
Great stream: sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/106723 -bloodzeed ftw.
 
2012-06-11 04:07:47 PM  
This match got nuts.
 
2012-06-11 04:08:01 PM  
www.vincentchow.net
Shevchenko!
 
paj
2012-06-11 04:09:05 PM  

9beers: The Ukraine is not weak.


football.uk.reuters.com
There is no 'the'
 
2012-06-11 04:11:27 PM  
Ukrainian in a black-face mask .... ummm...
 
2012-06-11 04:13:38 PM  
There is some serious one sided officiating going on in this match. The swedes are getting hosed
 
2012-06-11 04:15:13 PM  
the svrge post defender should have stopped #2
 
2012-06-11 04:19:43 PM  
Todays deodorant advertisement:

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i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-11 04:35:05 PM  
that was close!
 
2012-06-11 04:35:35 PM  
... but no cigar.
 
2012-06-11 04:37:11 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-11 04:38:11 PM  
*

^^^

Ukranian anus right now
 
2012-06-11 04:39:24 PM  
dive on #5
 
2012-06-11 04:40:05 PM  
Hooray upsets!!
 
2012-06-11 04:40:31 PM  
UKRAINE HAS NOT YET PERISHED
 
2012-06-11 04:45:28 PM  
Great day for Ukraine and Shevchenko.
 
2012-06-11 04:47:07 PM  

bartink: sephjnr: How is getting two less points putting you in the best chance of getting out of the group?

Very simple. The attempt to try for 3 instead of 1 increases the likelihood of getting 0 more than 3. Given that arguably their best player is serving a suspension, its better to simply survive and open it up during knockout with your full squad.

But you already knew that...


Except trying for the three, if successful, eliminates (or lessens) the need to make that choice the following game. Try for one and get one, and you will have to work twice as hard to avoid having to make that choice again where you'll be under more pressure,,, and thus having more chance of making 0 out of 3 or 1.

Even if successful you will need 3 from the last game. England will not get out of the group with 3pts.

Your move.
 
2012-06-11 04:48:00 PM  
oh hi there

i132.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-11 04:49:59 PM  
That's not a result I would've predicted. Sweden played well and probably didn't deserve to lose. But talk about carrying a nation on your shoulders. Shevchenko did just that.

/Loved his 2nd goal, just a perfect corner and header
 
2012-06-11 04:54:34 PM  
TheKnownUniverse
oh hi there

Lemon-colored outfit party!

i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-11 05:01:45 PM  

The Voice of Doom: TheKnownUniverse
oh hi there

Lemon-colored outfit party!

[i.imgur.com image 640x417]


brb
 
2012-06-11 05:48:22 PM  

paj: Great stream: sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/106723 -bloodzeed ftw.


Shhh, don't let it get overloaded! That's my favorite as well!
 
2012-06-11 06:28:40 PM  

A Fark Handle: Eastern Europe is pretty pale. Remember the Eastern Bloc only became accessible to immigrants 20 years ago.

Wiki has 'Other's' as 1%

Also, if you're an immigrant, why go there when you can make more in Western Europe?

and not face as much racism. not that western europe is always happy go lucky, but eastern europe is filled with racist shiats.


That's not entirely true. The Czech Rep has a significant Vietnamese population that came to Czechoslovakia in the 70s and 80s as brother/comrades
 
paj
2012-06-11 07:54:40 PM  

Stimied in a Rut: paj: Great stream: sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/106723 -bloodzeed ftw.

Shhh, don't let it get overloaded! That's my favorite as well!


More people = better stream. Sopcast is p2p
 
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