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2012-06-11 10:43:58 AM
5 votes:
logistic: I'm going to go out on a limb and say it sucks.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're going on my ignore list.
2012-06-11 10:47:05 AM
4 votes:

logistic: I'm going to go out on a limb and say it sucks.


which limb tree, oaks or maples?
2012-06-11 12:45:57 PM
3 votes:
Rush as a band has spent several decades preforming to sold out houses across the world. Their success today however is much like that of other generational bands. relying on substandard vocals and needlessly complex instrumentals in their songs. It's painfully obvious that Geddy Lee lacks the smooth vocal nuances of Axl Rose, or the writing abilities of the incomparable Kid Rock. The first and third tracks on the album show that there is something that just doesn't quite feel right with their music. But then again, it's like the great Gene Simmons once said, "Writing music isn't about inspiration, it's about hard work".

In short this album falls short of the subtleties that make it pale in comparison to some of the seminal albums of the early 21st century. Maybe if these dinosaurs were to incorporate some of the heart and soul that is so common in the modern masterpiece, "Burn it to the ground", by Canada's greatest treasure Nickelback then I might be talked into buying this album.
2012-06-11 12:11:19 PM
2 votes:

logistic: Success does not equal talent.



i1089.photobucket.com



/ you's trollin', eh?
2012-06-12 12:53:09 AM
1 votes:
Rush is a band that in my opinion has never put out a horrible album, however they do have better albums than others. That being said, their entire discography is better than almost everything that has been popular in the last 20 years.
2012-06-11 09:12:52 PM
1 votes:
ok we loike or love them hate snakes, but think VT should be remastered
anyways.....any read "ghost rider"? or ride?
what a fantastic read!
2012-06-11 04:58:53 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: steve_s: Neil Peart is the most over rated drummer of all time. The man can't swing or groove to save his life.

I think he was once quoted as saying the best drummer alive was Stewart Copeland, who can swing and groove.


Never heard that quote. I do have read on his blog of going to see Steve Smith play jazz "to keep himself humble".

Me, I take Peart over Copeland (though he swings and grooves a lot better). But I regard quite a few guys as better than Peart. Gavin Harrison, Marco Minnemann, Martin Lopez, Steve Smith, etc.

However, I finally saw Peart live, he blew me away. Such energy and precision... so awesome. "Swing? SWING? I DON'T NEED TO SWING. I'M NEIL PEART, BIATCH!". I still regard all those guys above as "better", but I found all the respect I had lost for Peart because he couldn't swing.
2012-06-11 04:32:02 PM
1 votes:
i49.tinypic.com

Best concept album that ever done lived and one of the best albums overall.
kab
2012-06-11 02:18:36 PM
1 votes:

clkeagle: I've thought about that. Haven't heard anything one way or another from the band, but my guess is that they're trying to be more "concert-friendly" than "radio-friendly." With a shorter average song length, they can play more songs every night on tour and satisfy more fans.

Hell, they wouldn't necessarily have to cap at 4:30 or below on the album for radio appeal. Even Dream Theater mixes some of their 7:00+ stuff down to radio length singles (not that they get airplay, but still). Rush could easily do the same, if that's what they chose to do.


If you're going to concede that your 7:00 tune should be whittled down so your ADD fanbase can enjoy it, you're doing it very wrong to begin with.

In other news, lots of laughs at the rest of this, and every other Rush thread. Nothing brings emo music biatches together like a band that's cool to hate, especially when the most vocal apparently have no concept of avoiding that which they dislike.

They've made admittedly bad music, and they've made music that will be around LONG after whatever Pitchfork-approved flash in the pan that you're currently into becomes forgotten. And in the meantime, they continue writing, and having apparently successful and profitable tours whenever they like. I'm sure randoms on the internet are hurting their feelings enough to consider retirement however.
2012-06-11 02:10:51 PM
1 votes:
Rush haters are funny, what drives you so?
2012-06-11 01:07:06 PM
1 votes:

Representative of the unwashed masses: Rush as a band has spent several decades preforming to sold out houses across the world. Their success today however is much like that of other generational bands. relying on substandard vocals and needlessly complex instrumentals in their songs. It's painfully obvious that Geddy Lee lacks the smooth vocal nuances of Axl Rose, or the writing abilities of the incomparable Kid Rock. The first and third tracks on the album show that there is something that just doesn't quite feel right with their music. But then again, it's like the great Gene Simmons once said, "Writing music isn't about inspiration, it's about hard work".

In short this album falls short of the subtleties that make it pale in comparison to some of the seminal albums of the early 21st century. Maybe if these dinosaurs were to incorporate some of the heart and soul that is so common in the modern masterpiece, "Burn it to the ground", by Canada's greatest treasure Nickelback then I might be talked into buying this album.



i1089.photobucket.com



/ pure genius . . . if I had two internets, you'd get one.
2012-06-11 12:50:59 PM
1 votes:

Representative of the unwashed masses: Rush as a band has spent several decades preforming to sold out houses across the world. Their success today however is much like that of other generational bands. relying on substandard vocals and needlessly complex instrumentals in their songs. It's painfully obvious that Geddy Lee lacks the smooth vocal nuances of Axl Rose, or the writing abilities of the incomparable Kid Rock. The first and third tracks on the album show that there is something that just doesn't quite feel right with their music. But then again, it's like the great Gene Simmons once said, "Writing music isn't about inspiration, it's about hard work".

In short this album falls short of the subtleties that make it pale in comparison to some of the seminal albums of the early 21st century. Maybe if these dinosaurs were to incorporate some of the heart and soul that is so common in the modern masterpiece, "Burn it to the ground", by Canada's greatest treasure Nickelback then I might be talked into buying this album.


If I favorited people, I would favorite you.

All Rush should do is concept albums. Quit trying to be radio-friendly. "Moving Pictures" was a watershed, but they will never reach that level again. They should stick to what got them their legions of fans in the first place and that is the Goddamned nerd rock complex cool shiat they were so good at making.
2012-06-11 12:16:10 PM
1 votes:

sotua: /and this, kids, is why you don't self-produce. Unless you're Steven Wilson


Sadly the pros, more and more, make a habit of slamming the brick wall as it sounds "better" on shiat like iphones and earbuds. It will also be the "loudest" thing you hear, which grabs the kids' attention.
2012-06-11 12:03:57 PM
1 votes:
I'll concede that VT has problems, but live, those songs are like Zeus throwing thunderbolts at giant dinosaur-hide drums.
2012-06-11 12:00:30 PM
1 votes:

El Freak: ComicBookGuy: logistic: I'm going to go out on a limb and say it sucks.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're going on my ignore list.

Wow, you take your crappy Ayn Rand-loving bullshiat prog rock really seriously.


LOL! Think of it more like someone shoving fingers in their ears and yelling "I'm not listening lalalalalala I can't hear you" when you try to tell them a harsh truth.

Rush fans are like that when you try to explain to them that Rush sucks.

I've seen people collapse on the ground in convulsions, chew off their own tongues and tear every last hair out of their head when the realization that they had wasted so much time listening to such a horrible band finally set in.
2012-06-11 11:55:01 AM
1 votes:

sotua: There are some bits of story interspersed with the lyrics. They are cringe-worthy indeed :)



Oh, so much this.

In the words of one of our great alchemists, Friedrich Gruber . . .

Thanks, Neil . . . you just gaywadded up a perfectly good song . . .



/ I have stoked the fire on the big steel wheels . . .
2012-06-11 11:42:25 AM
1 votes:

El Freak: ComicBookGuy: logistic: I'm going to go out on a limb and say it sucks.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're going on my ignore list.

Wow, you take your crappy Ayn Rand-loving bullshiat prog rock really seriously.


Leave this thread and go listen to your favorite band. Come back when they have been consistently successful for 38 years.
2012-06-11 11:11:16 AM
1 votes:
Rush fan since Signals. Loved VT, not too keen on SnA. Seeing them in DC in Sept. Just a great experience.
2012-06-11 11:07:46 AM
1 votes:

expobill: darch: I hope the recording is more "vapor trails" than "snakes and errors"
2112 rush fan since 1977ish

Unlistenable?

Seriously, I can't play VT, especially in my car. It almost blew my 10" RF sub up! Whoever mixed that album needs to be re-educated in the recording arts.

Yes, the bass was very overdone, i had to reconfigure the equalizer setting on most of the song, Freeze is a great example. ti just prefer the songs on VT, and did not like SA at all.


VT was recorded too hot. You can hear farking digital clipping during some parts... most notoriously during the chours of Secret Touch. It's such an amateur mistake you can't believe you're hearing it from a band with 20-30 years worth of experience and not a kid with his usb interface at home. And mastered just as loud to boot, so it gives you severe aural fatigue halfway into the album. It's a farking wall of sound with no dynamics, which is a damn shame since the music itself was damn good, but I can't really listen to it without getting a headache.

/and this, kids, is why you don't self-produce. Unless you're Steven Wilson
2012-06-11 11:07:16 AM
1 votes:
Didact

Narpet

!!! LISTEN !!!
2012-06-11 10:48:55 AM
1 votes:

expobill: I hope the recording is more "vapor trails" than "snakes and errors"
2112 rush fan since 1977ish


2112 was one of the first albums I ever bought, still have it, played the fark out of t
2012-06-11 10:46:02 AM
1 votes:
I hope the recording is more "vapor trails" than "snakes and errors"
2112 rush fan since 1977ish
 
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