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2012-06-11 10:20:11 AM
Something similar happened here a while back but it was the chief of police. Turned out she was developing Alzheimer's disease. Sad.
 
2012-06-11 10:22:08 AM

Satanic_Hamster: TravisBickle62: Bet you $5 he had a stroke

From the update at the top of the article page:
U.S. Commerce Secretary John Bryson, who police say caused two traffic accidents, suffered a seizure, his agency says.


Was it the seizure that caused the 'run' part?


/'i' before 'e' except after 'c' - the only spelling rule with more exceptions than working examples.
 
2012-06-11 10:22:16 AM

NeoCortex42: Watching the Fox News coverage of it this morning was interesting. First it was "Obama cabinet member commits hit and run" with a picture of him standing next to Obama. As soon as the news broke that it was the result of a seizure, all mention of Obama's name during the story suddenly disappeared.


Standard protocol for the American Neo-Con Network.
 
2012-06-11 10:22:33 AM

Galloping Galoshes: ladyfortuna: I call it plausible with a chance of bullshiat.


The speed of the diagnosis implies that this was a known but unpublicized condition cover story.


/just saying
 
2012-06-11 10:23:00 AM
Spokeswoman Jennifer Friedman confirmed that Bryson was involved, but pointed to medical reasons for the accidents.

"He suffered a seizure," she said. "He was taken to the hospital for examination and remained overnight for observation. He was released and has returned to Washington. The investigation is ongoing."


"I had a seizure but I took some SeizaNix and flew back to Washington, everything is fine."

seems like a worse political decision than

"Remains in the hospital under observation in case he needs his brain later..."

Just sayin.
 
2012-06-11 10:24:14 AM

TravisBickle62: chimp_ninja: CNN now has a 'breaking news' banner that they claim he suffered a seizure. It's not clear to me why that would cause two traffic accidents. I am confused.

When an old dude's brain gets farked up he doesn't immediately realize it so he may go on his way for a while with a farked up brain.


And yet they are continually re-elected.
 
2012-06-11 10:26:08 AM

flucto: Spokeswoman Jennifer Friedman confirmed that Bryson was involved, but pointed to medical reasons for the accidents.

"He suffered a seizure," she said. "He was taken to the hospital for examination and remained overnight for observation. He was released and has returned to Washington. The investigation is ongoing."


"I had a seizure but I took some SeizaNix and flew back to Washington, everything is fine."

seems like a worse political decision than

"Remains in the hospital under observation in case he needs his brain later..."

Just sayin.


Welcome to the modern health industry. Staying in the hospital for observation doesn't happen much any more.
 
2012-06-11 10:26:14 AM

Galloping Galoshes: Serious Black: . Particularly since he's a CABINET SECRETARY and has a driver available.


It's always been weird to me that the rich and powerful don't have drivers 24/7 and get caught for DUI - if I had that much money and was wanting to go out drinking or whatever, I would definitely at least take a cab if not make my personal driver hang out all damn night to take me home. It must be something about having control over your route/vehicle that makes them stupid.
 
2012-06-11 10:26:37 AM

Joce678: /'i' before 'e' except after 'c' - the only spelling rule with more exceptions than working examples.


Pair it with grammar rules for the apostrophe for spontaneous combustion.
 
2012-06-11 10:27:43 AM
The men in the Buick followed Bryson while calling 911 to report the accident, it said.
Bryson then drove to the neighboring city of Rosemead, where he hit a second car, according to authorities.
The commerce secretary was found "alone and unconscious behind the wheel of his vehicle," according to the police statement.


WTF were the cops doing while he was driving from town to town.
 
2012-06-11 10:28:21 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Welcome to the modern health industry. Staying in the hospital for observation doesn't happen much any more.


I'm pretty sure when you're commerce sec. you have the connections who can help you stay as long as optics require.
 
2012-06-11 10:29:37 AM

NeoCortex42: Watching the Fox News coverage of it this morning was interesting. First it was "Obama cabinet member commits hit and run" with a picture of him standing next to Obama. As soon as the news broke that it was the result of a seizure, all mention of Obama's name during the story suddenly disappeared.


Not amazed that the Faux News Network would attempt to pull this kind of blantantly biased stunt.

They should lose their broadcast licnese, along with 99% of the rest of the Conservative Media.
 
2012-06-11 10:29:50 AM
Ah I see that people that hate Obama are seizure experts this morning.
 
2012-06-11 10:30:58 AM

HotWingConspiracy: chimp_ninja: CNN now has a 'breaking news' banner that they claim he suffered a seizure. It's not clear to me why that would cause two traffic accidents. I am confused.

seizure ---> crash ---> leave scene in confused post seizure state ---> crash again


Possible, but if it was a medical condition I'm guessing a TIA would be a more likely explanation.
 
2012-06-11 10:31:00 AM

ladyfortuna: Galloping Galoshes: Serious Black: . Particularly since he's a CABINET SECRETARY and has a driver available.

It's always been weird to me that the rich and powerful don't have drivers 24/7 and get caught for DUI - if I had that much money and was wanting to go out drinking or whatever, I would definitely at least take a cab if not make my personal driver hang out all damn night to take me home. It must be something about having control over your route/vehicle that makes them stupid.


They don't need the driver ratting them out to the press that they were banging an intern in the back seat, cruising rest areas, and so forth.
 
2012-06-11 10:31:39 AM

flucto: Philip Francis Queeg: Welcome to the modern health industry. Staying in the hospital for observation doesn't happen much any more.

I'm pretty sure when you're commerce sec. you have the connections who can help you stay as long as optics require.


Yeah, I forgot the all powerful nature of being commerce secretary. Where were the Navy Seal team and mobile hospital that's normally part of his entourage while this was going on?
 
2012-06-11 10:31:45 AM
He was released and has returned to Washington.

Where an occasional seizure can go unnoticed.
 
2012-06-11 10:32:33 AM

ladyfortuna: Galloping Galoshes: Serious Black: . Particularly since he's a CABINET SECRETARY and has a driver available.

It's always been weird to me that the rich and powerful don't have drivers 24/7 and get caught for DUI - if I had that much money and was wanting to go out drinking or whatever, I would definitely at least take a cab if not make my personal driver hang out all damn night to take me home. It must be something about having control over your route/vehicle that makes them stupid.


Or, it could just be a guy thing. That makes you stupid, too. Speaking as a guy, of course. Betcha he didn't ask those nice folks at the first accident for directions to the second, either. Probably drove around for hours before he found it. You realize that guys invented GPS not for military purposes, but so they wouldn't have to listen to their wives nag them to pull over and ask somebody. You'll never hear a GPS say "You're lost, aren't you."
 
2012-06-11 10:35:01 AM

Alonjar: ... and here I thought they were going to talk about state required "safety" inspections which are just a giant scam for the repair industry. "Your car is still under warranty? OK.. the alignment of your headlights are off, you need a headlight adjustment. Give us $100 or the police will punish you for us."

fark the commonwealth of Virginia so hard.


you need to find a new mechanic.
 
2012-06-11 10:35:04 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Ah I see that people that hate Obama are seizure experts this morning.


Actually, that's the kindest explanation.

Trance750: They should lose their broadcast licnese, along with 99% of the rest of the Conservative Media.


If you're going to start pulling licenses based on political content, the airwaves are going to be pretty quiet. Maybe not a completely bad thing.
 
2012-06-11 10:38:26 AM

Galloping Galoshes: Serious Black: Liberal POV: about 75% chance he had a seizure, about 25% chance he was drunk or high.
Conservative POV: 1023479012834719237840% chance he was drunk and high, no chance it was a legitimate medical condition.

You caught me. I am 100+% sure it was drugs or alcohol. Actually, both. And his was the hand behind Obama's forged birth certificate, he flies a black helicopter, he's a demolition expert and was seen in the Twin Towers on 9/11, and (geez, I'm running out of conspiracies).

Not enough information available to make a judgement. If it was a known medical condition, there will be questions about his judgement. Particularly since he's a CABINET SECRETARY and has a driver available.


I wasn't trying to say anything about you; I was specifically pointing out that Karl Rove has already blamed the incident on drugs and alcohol.
 
2012-06-11 10:38:57 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Ah I see that people that hate Obama are seizure experts this morning.


You ever notice how Obama's friends suffer some sort of brain issue? I mean, the guy must be toxic.
 
2012-06-11 10:39:32 AM
I'm sorry occifer, I'm having a seizure.
 
2012-06-11 10:41:20 AM
A seizure and two car accidents? Whoa, this is serious. Can't we just go back to the days when the only mayhem that Obama's cabinet caused were never, ever, under any circumstances whatsoever, paying their taxes? That was a simpler time in America.
 
2012-06-11 10:42:08 AM

Joce678: Satanic_Hamster: TravisBickle62: Bet you $5 he had a stroke

From the update at the top of the article page:
U.S. Commerce Secretary John Bryson, who police say caused two traffic accidents, suffered a seizure, his agency says.

Was it the seizure that caused the 'run' part?


/'i' before 'e' except after 'c' - the only spelling rule with more exceptions than working examples.


He likely didn't even know or realize that he had hit someone. IIRC, a lot of the seizure meds cause a good bit of side effects, including drowsiness.

My money is on: he took the medication not knowing how it would affect him and drove when he shouldn't have.
 
2012-06-11 10:44:28 AM
 
2012-06-11 10:44:30 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Joce678: Satanic_Hamster: TravisBickle62: Bet you $5 he had a stroke

From the update at the top of the article page:
U.S. Commerce Secretary John Bryson, who police say caused two traffic accidents, suffered a seizure, his agency says.

Was it the seizure that caused the 'run' part?


/'i' before 'e' except after 'c' - the only spelling rule with more exceptions than working examples.

He likely didn't even know or realize that he had hit someone. IIRC, a lot of the seizure meds cause a good bit of side effects, including drowsiness.

My money is on: he took the medication not knowing how it would affect him and drove when he shouldn't have.


Except for the whole "got out of vehicle and spoke to the passengers, before leaving the scene and getting into another accident" part.
 
2012-06-11 10:45:55 AM
The official, who spoke to CNN on condition of not being identified, said Bryson was given medication to treat the seizure.

Really, CNN? Are your readers really so goddamned ignorant that they don't understand what "on condition of anonymity" means?
 
2012-06-11 10:48:00 AM

Roook: Could be a medical condition. Alcohol test came up clean. But hard to imagine someone doing all this without something going on. It was probably pills. Ambien or Ativan


I'm laying a BIG marker down on Ambien. It's the DOC for a lot of the DC movers and shakers, (Colin Powell used to swear but the stuff) and it's side effects even iwth a moderate amount of alcohol are pretty well documented at this point.
 
2012-06-11 10:48:40 AM

Serious Black: I wasn't trying to say anything about you; I was specifically pointing out that Karl Rove has already blamed the incident on drugs and alcohol.


Your post said "Conservative", the link went to Rove, but OK. FYI, Karl Rove is not the keeper of the "Conservative POV". He has the "Karl Rove POV", which is not at all the same thing. I don't have a "Conservative POV" either, just a Galloping Galoshes POV."
 
2012-06-11 10:48:44 AM

TheDumbBlonde: Satanic_Hamster: Joce678: Satanic_Hamster: TravisBickle62: Bet you $5 he had a stroke

From the update at the top of the article page:
U.S. Commerce Secretary John Bryson, who police say caused two traffic accidents, suffered a seizure, his agency says.

Was it the seizure that caused the 'run' part?


/'i' before 'e' except after 'c' - the only spelling rule with more exceptions than working examples.

He likely didn't even know or realize that he had hit someone. IIRC, a lot of the seizure meds cause a good bit of side effects, including drowsiness.

My money is on: he took the medication not knowing how it would affect him and drove when he shouldn't have.

Except for the whole "got out of vehicle and spoke to the passengers, before leaving the scene and getting into another accident" part.


Um, drowsiness doesn't equal unconsciousness.
 
2012-06-11 10:50:39 AM

Alonjar: ... and here I thought they were going to talk about state required "safety" inspections which are just a giant scam for the repair industry. "Your car is still under warranty? OK.. the alignment of your headlights are off, you need a headlight adjustment. Give us $100 or the police will punish you for us."

fark the commonwealth of Virginia so hard.


Not for nothing, I've had a car in VA that's been unable to pass inspection because of intermittent electrical problems for about 3 years now. I've gotten exactly two $40 tickets for the expired safety sticker during that time, both times when being stopped for something else like speeding.
 
2012-06-11 10:50:57 AM
Well I was supposed to hear him speak today.

/He cancelled.
 
2012-06-11 10:51:23 AM

Gulper Eel: ladyfortuna: Galloping Galoshes: Serious Black: . Particularly since he's a CABINET SECRETARY and has a driver available.

It's always been weird to me that the rich and powerful don't have drivers 24/7 and get caught for DUI - if I had that much money and was wanting to go out drinking or whatever, I would definitely at least take a cab if not make my personal driver hang out all damn night to take me home. It must be something about having control over your route/vehicle that makes them stupid.

They don't need the driver ratting them out to the press that they were banging an intern in the back seat, cruising rest areas, and so forth.


Proper procedure to prevent that is pay the driver well, and make sure you have plenty of dirt on him/her so that they won't feel such a need to blab.
 
2012-06-11 10:51:33 AM
Resignation to "spend more time with his family" in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...
 
2012-06-11 10:54:32 AM
Two people spoke on the condition that their names are not revealed. Is this another leak from the leakiest leak-leak that ever leaked?

Or something?

Whatever point I as trying to make, I'm sure it's obvious that Taxbongo's greatest strength has become his greatest weakness and he will now be impeached for it.

Finally, history's greatest one-term monster's reign of terror is coming to an end.
 
2012-06-11 10:55:35 AM

ladyfortuna: Galloping Galoshes: Serious Black: . Particularly since he's a CABINET SECRETARY and has a driver available.

It's always been weird to me that the rich and powerful don't have drivers 24/7 and get caught for DUI - if I had that much money and was wanting to go out drinking or whatever, I would definitely at least take a cab if not make my personal driver hang out all damn night to take me home. It must be something about having control over your route/vehicle that makes them stupid.


It's an invincibility thing I think. Pretty much every pro sports team has the same program for all of their players, but you still see these guys that make millions of dollars every year acting like dumbasses and getting DUIs or, worse, Plaxico'ing up a night club.
 
2012-06-11 10:56:21 AM
Sometimes Spectres choose the Renegade path.

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2012-06-11 10:57:01 AM
New Rule: If you've got a seizure disorder, you shouldn't be driving.
 
2012-06-11 10:59:08 AM
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2012-06-11 09:53:51 AM


Somewhere Darrell Issa has a boner.


Yeah, in your mom's mouth.

/too easy, couldn't help myself...
 
2012-06-11 11:00:17 AM

ladyfortuna: Proper procedure to prevent that is pay the driver well, and make sure you have plenty of dirt on him/her so that they won't feel such a need to blab.


Better yet, job offer for the driver after the principle leaves, at much better pay, contingent on good behavior.
 
2012-06-11 11:00:33 AM

ElFugawz: The men in the Buick followed Bryson while calling 911 to report the accident, it said.
Bryson then drove to the neighboring city of Rosemead, where he hit a second car, according to authorities.
The commerce secretary was found "alone and unconscious behind the wheel of his vehicle," according to the police statement.

WTF were the cops doing while he was driving from town to town.


Figuring out what to do about the "situation" after running the plate number given by the 3 guys.

"Commerce Secretary John Bryson," "oh fark what do we do chief?"
 
2012-06-11 11:10:42 AM

Galloping Galoshes: ladyfortuna: Galloping Galoshes: Serious Black: . Particularly since he's a CABINET SECRETARY and has a driver available.

It's always been weird to me that the rich and powerful don't have drivers 24/7 and get caught for DUI - if I had that much money and was wanting to go out drinking or whatever, I would definitely at least take a cab if not make my personal driver hang out all damn night to take me home. It must be something about having control over your route/vehicle that makes them stupid.

Or, it could just be a guy thing. That makes you stupid, too. Speaking as a guy, of course. Betcha he didn't ask those nice folks at the first accident for directions to the second, either. Probably drove around for hours before he found it. You realize that guys invented GPS not for military purposes, but so they wouldn't have to listen to their wives nag them to pull over and ask somebody. You'll never hear a GPS say "You're lost, aren't you."


Someone needs to make a GPS that does that.
 
2012-06-11 11:15:10 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Someone needs to make a GPS that does that.


After four "Recalculating"s, the screen displays a message "Pull over and ask somebody, for god's sake!"
 
2012-06-11 11:41:01 AM

TheDumbBlonde: Except for the whole "got out of vehicle and spoke to the passengers, before leaving the scene and getting into another accident" part.


Which goes along with drowsiness and disorientation? Have you ever been prescribed a strong narcotic, anti-seizure drug, anything like that? Hell, ANY medication? Some will really throw you for a loop and knock you on your ass.
 
2012-06-11 11:47:39 AM

Satanic_Hamster: TheDumbBlonde: Except for the whole "got out of vehicle and spoke to the passengers, before leaving the scene and getting into another accident" part.

Which goes along with drowsiness and disorientation? Have you ever been prescribed a strong narcotic, anti-seizure drug, anything like that? Hell, ANY medication? Some will really throw you for a loop and knock you on your ass.


Yeah, and if it's the first time you've taken it, and don't know what effect it will have, you don't drive a farking car.

And if you have taken it before, and know it throws you for a loop and knocks you on your ass, you don't drive a farking car.

Not really a tough concept, eh?
 
2012-06-11 11:58:57 AM

3dougnight: New Rule: If you've got a seizure disorder, you shouldn't be driving.


Alas, seizure disorders tend to show up without warning. He should, of course, have a medical suspension of his driver's license immediately. In most states, if you've had an impairing seizure--anything that causes you to be temporarily non-conscious--it's six months to a year before you can drive again. If it's controlled my medication or surgery, you still have to wait those months, but can get your license after that time. (My last seizure was 16 years ago.)

I'm not a doctor but I have a neuro degree. Going out on a limb, it sounds like he had a major absence seizure, which caused the first crash. He stopped to talk, and in his post-ictal state, left without thinking about the consequences. The second crash was probably caused by the post-ictal state and not the seizure itself--that soon after a seizure, you're probably about as impaired as a 0.2-0.3% BAC.

But if you've never suffered a seizure and don't know what a post-ictal state is... well, your judgment is already horribly impaired. He probably had no farking clue what he was doing, but couldn't judge properly that that was the case. So off he drove.

I'd call it 30% the seizure was caused by alcohol/drug though.
 
2012-06-11 12:12:39 PM
If he's guilty, he should get what you or I would get. No more, no less.
 
2012-06-11 12:16:11 PM

NeoCortex42: Watching the Fox News coverage of it this morning was interesting. First it was "Obama cabinet member commits hit and run" with a picture of him standing next to Obama. As soon as the news broke that it was the result of a seizure, all mention of Obama's name during the story suddenly disappeared.


Sounds like something CNN would have done with Bush.
 
2012-06-11 12:22:26 PM

DaddyRat: Yeah, and if it's the first time you've taken it, and don't know what effect it will have, you don't drive a farking car.

And if you have taken it before, and know it throws you for a loop and knocks you on your ass, you don't drive a farking car.

Not really a tough concept, eh?


Oh, I agree. Guy should get a ticket with driving while impaired, just like any other person. I'm more responding to the automatic accusations of "he's a drunk driver omg 11enty!!!"
 
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