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(The Nation)   In the good vs evil story of the NBA Finals, the media has wrongly painted Miami the villain. An Oklahoma City win would reward the owners that move teams and demand new stadiums from taxpayers   (thenation.com) divider line 300
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2012-06-11 02:29:35 PM  

fonebone77: Yay. Another thread for Sonics fans to whine and blame Oklahoma for all their woes! I guess we can look forward to this for years to come as it looks like OKC will be pretty competitive. Some people have said if the Thunder sucked we wouldn't be hearing anything about this. I don't think that is true. We'd be hearing Seattle fans gloating about how we are getting what we deserve. Kinda like how they did the first year. Don't worry, some day they wont be very good and you will get your chance. The Seahawks used to be a team I would go for if my team was failing, but not anymore, the combination of insults directed at Oklahoma and Pete Carroll have earned my ire for any Seattle team. Go Cardinals, Rams, 49ers! I hope Carroll screws you guys as bad as he did USC (without the championships). I dont really have to mention the Mariners (but I will), they always suck.


I'm sooooo sure that the Seahawks really miss your support, and that it upsets them to no end.
 
2012-06-11 02:29:54 PM  

skinink: If it was the Miami Heat vs. the Dog Eating KKK Aborting Nazi Zombies From Hell, I'd still root against the Heat. The Miami fans are becoming unbearable even before the Finals. I haven't read or heard any Oklahoma fans bragging like the Heat fans.


I'm openly cheering for al-Qaeda to make a big comeback.
 
2012-06-11 02:29:55 PM  

CavalierEternal: Still having trouble grasping the whole "it's not that he left, it's how he left" point?


I get it. "The Decision" was farking idiotic and insulting, and I understand why Cleveland folks like yourself would be upset by that.

However, I also get that it was two years ago. Have some farking pride and stop pining over the "one that got away".
 
2012-06-11 02:30:17 PM  

A Fark Handle: skinink: If it was the Miami Heat vs. the Dog Eating KKK Aborting Nazi Zombies From Hell, I'd still root against the Heat. The Miami fans are becoming unbearable even before the Finals. I haven't read or heard any Oklahoma fans bragging like the Heat fans.

they have fans? i was not aware...i thought it was just a bunch of farking idiots who like front running and wearing whatever the hot logo is. i wouldn't call them fans.


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2012-06-11 02:31:01 PM  

A Fark Handle: they have fans? i was not aware...i thought it was just a bunch of farking idiots who like front running and wearing whatever the hot logo is. i wouldn't call them fans.


You just described both sets of "fanbases".
 
2012-06-11 02:31:51 PM  

CavalierEternal: gtfan92: CavalierEternal: Yanks_RSJ: Oh look, it's another Cleveland jilted-lover biatchfest because LeBron owed them ... well something, apparently. Because I'm sure they'd love him if they hadn't won the lottery for the right to draft him.

Get over it. He's a professional athlete who made a professional business decision about his career. Newsflash, even people from the Cleveland area don't want to stay in Cleveland if they don't have to.

Still having trouble grasping the whole "it's not that he left, it's how he left" point?

Oh for farks sake, it's not like he drowned adorable puppies on national television. Get the fark over it already!

Just because we've gotten over it doesn't mean we have to like the asshole.


You sure you've gotten over it? Because while LeBron may sometimes be arrogant, I wouldn't put him on the "asshole" list.
 
2012-06-11 02:31:53 PM  

skinink: If it was the Miami Heat vs. the Dog Eating KKK Aborting Nazi Zombies From Hell, I'd still root against the Heat. The Miami fans are becoming unbearable even before the Finals. I haven't read or heard any Oklahoma fans bragging like the Heat fans.


Says the guy with this in his profile:

"Proud fan of all of the Major Boston sports teams except for the Revolution, who are soccer's version of the 90's Buffalo Bills."

I guess it's only okay if the frontrunners like your team.
 
2012-06-11 02:32:16 PM  

gtfan92: Oh for farks sake, it's not like he drowned adorable puppies on national television. Get the fark over it already!


Tune in later as Cavs fans minimize LeBron's accomplishments in Cleveland by ignoring the fact that he dragged an overmatched team to one NBA Finals and did the best he could with the likes of an elderly Antawn Jamison, and eldery AND overweight Shaq plus immortals like Mo Williams and Boobie Gibson.

They weren't going anywhere, he recognized it and got the fark out of there while he could.
 
2012-06-11 02:32:51 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: CavalierEternal: Still having trouble grasping the whole "it's not that he left, it's how he left" point?

I get it. "The Decision" was farking idiotic and insulting, and I understand why Cleveland folks like yourself would be upset by that.

However, I also get that it was two years ago. Have some farking pride and stop pining over the "one that got away".


Like I told gtfan, we're over it. It's not really a touchy subject anymore, but if you ask any Clevelander what they think of LeBron James, they'll still tell you that he's an asshole and they'll have a reason why. "Getting over it" doesn't mean you have to change your opinion of that person or what they did. We've got a solid little team building up again already with Kyrie and Tristan. We'll be fine. Doesn't mean we wouldn't also take a little bit of joy in seeing LeBron eat sh*t again.
 
2012-06-11 02:33:10 PM  
There is absolutely nothing wrong with LeBron James' actions regarding his career.
 
2012-06-11 02:33:58 PM  

PowerSlacker: A Fark Handle: they have fans? i was not aware...i thought it was just a bunch of farking idiots who like front running and wearing whatever the hot logo is. i wouldn't call them fans.

You just described both sets of "fanbases".


I've said this before, but I give OKC fans a pass because of the whole "the team didn't exist until very, very recently" thing. That strikes me as a good excuse.

Though I actually do know one guy from Miami who's been a diehard Heat fan since long before anyone ever heard of Dwyane Wade. I acknowledge that he's in the minority, but still.
 
2012-06-11 02:34:21 PM  
I'll be pulling for the Celtics! Reckonthatis.com
 
2012-06-11 02:34:56 PM  
NBA threads make me sad.
 
2012-06-11 02:35:00 PM  

gtfan92: CavalierEternal: gtfan92: CavalierEternal: Yanks_RSJ: Oh look, it's another Cleveland jilted-lover biatchfest because LeBron owed them ... well something, apparently. Because I'm sure they'd love him if they hadn't won the lottery for the right to draft him.

Get over it. He's a professional athlete who made a professional business decision about his career. Newsflash, even people from the Cleveland area don't want to stay in Cleveland if they don't have to.

Still having trouble grasping the whole "it's not that he left, it's how he left" point?

Oh for farks sake, it's not like he drowned adorable puppies on national television. Get the fark over it already!

Just because we've gotten over it doesn't mean we have to like the asshole.

You sure you've gotten over it? Because while LeBron may sometimes be arrogant, I wouldn't put him on the "asshole" list.


He held a primetime TV party for himself so that he could essentially tell our team and all of our fans to go f*ck ourselves. We're over it, but he's still an asshole for it.
 
2012-06-11 02:36:03 PM  

FreakinB: Though I actually do know one guy from Miami who's been a diehard Heat fan since long before anyone ever heard of Dwyane Wade. I acknowledge that he's in the minority, but still.


They didnt have fans when Zo and Hardaway were battling the Knicks?
 
2012-06-11 02:36:30 PM  
It was a travesty how Seattle lost their team, but I would cheer for Hitler over Miami.

Go Thunder!
 
2012-06-11 02:37:00 PM  

CavalierEternal: so that he could essentially tell our team and all of our fans to go f*ck ourselves.


Funny how you said that in his eyes, it was all about him, then you pretend it was all about you.
 
2012-06-11 02:37:47 PM  

CavalierEternal: gtfan92: CavalierEternal: gtfan92: CavalierEternal: Yanks_RSJ: Oh look, it's another Cleveland jilted-lover biatchfest because LeBron owed them ... well something, apparently. Because I'm sure they'd love him if they hadn't won the lottery for the right to draft him.

Get over it. He's a professional athlete who made a professional business decision about his career. Newsflash, even people from the Cleveland area don't want to stay in Cleveland if they don't have to.

Still having trouble grasping the whole "it's not that he left, it's how he left" point?

Oh for farks sake, it's not like he drowned adorable puppies on national television. Get the fark over it already!

Just because we've gotten over it doesn't mean we have to like the asshole.

You sure you've gotten over it? Because while LeBron may sometimes be arrogant, I wouldn't put him on the "asshole" list.

He held a primetime TV party for himself so that he could essentially tell our team and all of our fans to go f*ck ourselves. We're over it, but he's still an asshole for it.


You have a pathetic perception of reality. You got to see a one-in-a-generation player on your team, and you're are mad because he left. Guess what? I'm a Hawks fans. My team has never been out of the second round and essentially hasn't had a star player in my lifetime. Get. The. fark. Over. It.
 
2012-06-11 02:38:27 PM  

CavalierEternal: He held a primetime TV party for himself so that he could essentially tell our team and all of our fans to go f*ck ourselves. We're over it, but he's still an asshole for it.


Didnt he also raise $2millions for charity that day?
 
2012-06-11 02:38:29 PM  

IAmRight: CavalierEternal: so that he could essentially tell our team and all of our fans to go f*ck ourselves.

Funny how you said that in his eyes, it was all about him, then you pretend it was all about you.


When the f*ck did I say it was all about us? All I said was that he f*cking humiliated us on national TV. He did this while being a narcissistic sh*t sandwich. There's not any contradiction there.
 
2012-06-11 02:38:37 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: However, I also get that it was two years ago. Have some farking pride and stop pining over the "one that got away".


At least Dan Gilbert did a fantastic job of simply moving on, and not spending one ounce of energy further demonizing and potentially inciting a metro-wide fury of revulsion towards a former player. His grace and class throughout the ordeal will only attract a bevy of future free agents to Cleveland.
 
2012-06-11 02:39:08 PM  

jayhawk88: rickythepenguin: jayhawk88: minimum his decision should have been a meeting in private with Cleveland management and a simple "Thank you for 7 great years, I have decided to move on" press release, rather than that circus they tried pull off.


IIRC even Jim Gray has tried to wash his hands of The Decision. I heard him on someone's podcast, i'm thinking Rich Eisen but that doesn't sound right, and as i recall, Gray said LeBron's team approcahed him about the even and it kept getting bigger and bigger. it went from an exclusive announcement to a TV, to "gee, wouldn't it be great if we did this in front of a bunch of kids?" and spiraled into the schlockfest it was.

also, i think LeBron mentally checking out of that last playoff game vs the Celtics was the answer. remember him just completely going Rain Man during the game? i know the joke is LeBron disappears in teh 4th quarter but....mentally, he wasn't present. he was sleepwalking practically. i think that was him realizing, on the court, that he was done in that city.

See I would say the whole of '09-10, both the off-season and during the season, was when the switch flipped. Especially that '10 trade deadline, when Cleveland could have had Amare from Phoenix if they just would have included Hickson with the package, but didn't pull the trigger and went with Jamison instead. The argument that Jamison fit better with the team isn't unjustified, but still, the message there seemed to be "We're serious about giving you a winning team, but not that serious." And then of course Brown buries Hickson in the playoffs.

LeBron kind of quit at the end of that Boston series, but I think it was the whole season that he was thinking about when he did. "Man, I gotta come back to this and watch Joe Johnson, Amare, Wade, Dirk, Bosh, and all them guys team up while my team brings in Richard Jefferson and Ronnie Brewer?"


I normally really appreciate your posts, but the Cavs declining a Amar'e/ Hickson trade is flat out not true. Both the Suns and the Cavs have come out after the fact to confirm this.

If you aren't from Cleveland/Akron (I'm from Akron), I really don't expect you to understand why his departure was crushing to us and why the way he left was so much worse. People like IAmRight love LeBron and his basketball skills and that is just fine, LeBron leaving didn't affect him at all. But please, spare us the tired "get over it" line, as Scott Raab said "as if 'over it' is best defined by some asshole who likes telling other people how to feel and act."
 
2012-06-11 02:39:39 PM  

Gunny Highway: FreakinB: Though I actually do know one guy from Miami who's been a diehard Heat fan since long before anyone ever heard of Dwyane Wade. I acknowledge that he's in the minority, but still.

They didnt have fans when Zo and Hardaway were battling the Knicks?


Heh. He does go back farther but Wade's the current reference point.

That's actually the thing that bothers me the most about people being so over-the-top about the Heat. I shouldn't be sympathetic towards the team that led Van Gundy to cling to a leg. They're supposed to be an enemy for me, dammit!
 
2012-06-11 02:40:07 PM  

Gunny Highway: CavalierEternal: He held a primetime TV party for himself so that he could essentially tell our team and all of our fans to go f*ck ourselves. We're over it, but he's still an asshole for it.

Didnt he also raise $2millions for charity that day?


We've been over that already.
 
2012-06-11 02:40:39 PM  

Killer Cars: Yanks_RSJ: However, I also get that it was two years ago. Have some farking pride and stop pining over the "one that got away".

At least Dan Gilbert did a fantastic job of simply moving on, and not spending one ounce of energy further demonizing and potentially inciting a metro-wide fury of revulsion towards a former player. His grace and class throughout the ordeal will only attract a bevy of future free agents to Cleveland.


This comment needs more comic sans.

And it's not like any free agents would want to go to Cleveland anyway, so he can send out all the brokenhearted missives he wants without worrying about it.
 
2012-06-11 02:41:53 PM  

Serges: If you aren't from Cleveland/Akron (I'm from Akron), I really don't expect you to understand why his departure was crushing to us and why the way he left was so much worse. People like IAmRight love LeBron and his basketball skills and that is just fine, LeBron leaving didn't affect him at all. But please, spare us the tired "get over it" line, as Scott Raab said "as if 'over it' is best defined by some asshole who likes telling other people how to feel and act."


Thank you. Very eloquently put.
 
2012-06-11 02:42:32 PM  
Also CavalierEternal, my favorite player is Josh Smith. The guy is frustrating as hell on the court, has supposedly asked for a trade, and at times appears completely disinterested.

LeBron did none of these things in Cleveland.

However, if Smoove decided to go to another team after next year, I would still root for him. I wouldn't hate him for "humiliating me" in some fictitious way.
 
2012-06-11 02:43:55 PM  

CavalierEternal: Gunny Highway: CavalierEternal: He held a primetime TV party for himself so that he could essentially tell our team and all of our fans to go f*ck ourselves. We're over it, but he's still an asshole for it.

Didnt he also raise $2millions for charity that day?

We've been over that already.


I assume you had a problem with it.

He did not "f*cking humiliated [you] on national TV" either.
 
2012-06-11 02:45:35 PM  

CavalierEternal: Serges: If you aren't from Cleveland/Akron (I'm from Akron), I really don't expect you to understand why his departure was crushing to us and why the way he left was so much worse. People like IAmRight love LeBron and his basketball skills and that is just fine, LeBron leaving didn't affect him at all. But please, spare us the tired "get over it" line, as Scott Raab said "as if 'over it' is best defined by some asshole who likes telling other people how to feel and act."

Thank you. Very eloquently put.


How did LeBron leaving impact your lives? It is farking sports for christ's sake.

Get over it.
 
2012-06-11 02:46:46 PM  

gtfan92: Also CavalierEternal, my favorite player is Josh Smith. The guy is frustrating as hell on the court, has supposedly asked for a trade, and at times appears completely disinterested.

LeBron did none of these things in Cleveland.

However, if Smoove decided to go to another team after next year, I would still root for him. I wouldn't hate him for "humiliating me" in some fictitious way.


When Josh Smith develops into a LeBron-level talent, drags your team along with a game of "Will I, Won't I?" for a year, goes on national TV interviews dropping hints that Atlanta is still in the lead to re-sign him and then goes in ESPN in primetime to let the entire world know that he's going to play for the Magic, check back with me and let me know how you feel about Josh Smith.
 
2012-06-11 02:48:29 PM  

Gunny Highway: CavalierEternal: Serges: If you aren't from Cleveland/Akron (I'm from Akron), I really don't expect you to understand why his departure was crushing to us and why the way he left was so much worse. People like IAmRight love LeBron and his basketball skills and that is just fine, LeBron leaving didn't affect him at all. But please, spare us the tired "get over it" line, as Scott Raab said "as if 'over it' is best defined by some asshole who likes telling other people how to feel and act."

Thank you. Very eloquently put.

How did LeBron leaving impact your lives? It is farking sports for christ's sake.


You mean aside from the obvious economic impact that the Cavaliers huge decrease in value has on Cleveland and the surrounding areas?

But it's okay because "LOL CLEVELAND'S ALREADY POOR LOLOL", right?
 
2012-06-11 02:49:12 PM  

IAmRight: Like they weren't going to make the playoffs unless all of them got injured. Also, direct quote "I believe we can win multiple championships if we do it the right way" No prediction, no guarantee of championships. Just a belief that it would happen. And it was a pep rally because Miami fans suck.


Really, no predictions?
 
2012-06-11 02:51:11 PM  

CavalierEternal: gtfan92: Also CavalierEternal, my favorite player is Josh Smith. The guy is frustrating as hell on the court, has supposedly asked for a trade, and at times appears completely disinterested.

LeBron did none of these things in Cleveland.

However, if Smoove decided to go to another team after next year, I would still root for him. I wouldn't hate him for "humiliating me" in some fictitious way.

When Josh Smith develops into a LeBron-level talent, drags your team along with a game of "Will I, Won't I?" for a year, goes on national TV interviews dropping hints that Atlanta is still in the lead to re-sign him and then goes in ESPN in primetime to let the entire world know that he's going to play for the Magic, check back with me and let me know how you feel about Josh Smith.


I'd probably still root for him because I'm not a drama queen. Oh, and Josh Smith with LeBron level talent would mean Atlanta would have a couple of titles by now. LeBron, Joe Johnson, and Al Horford would make a farking awesome team! Maybe Cleveland should have learned this concept of having more than one good player.
 
2012-06-11 02:51:12 PM  

fonebone77: Yay. Another thread for Sonics fans to whine and blame Oklahoma for all their woes! I guess we can look forward to this for years to come as it looks like OKC will be pretty competitive


You can look forward to it for decades after the Thunder stop being competitive. Sports grudges can last a long, long time, especially in three specific cases:

*A city hijacking another city's team. If the move is a product of the kind of apathy that leads to 'save our team' rallies that draw maybe twelve people (Expos, Houston Oilers, Atlanta Thrashers), that's one thing. When the team is deemed stolen, though (Sonics, Brooklyn Dodgers, Baltimore Colts, Cleveland Browns 1.0)
*A championship stolen. Not 'disputed' or 'controversial'. Stolen. Pottsville Maroons-level stolen.
*The franchise's best-ever player shipped off for peanuts after you know how good he is but with enough time for him to come back and repeatedly pound the team that shipped him off (e.g. Babe Ruth).

You commit one of those three offenses, you can expect teenage fans to grow old and die still cursing your name. The Bidwell family still, to this day, steers clear of Pottsville, Pennsylvania. Clay Bennett can expect the same treatment in Seattle for the rest of his life.
 
2012-06-11 02:53:00 PM  

CavalierEternal: IAmRight: CavalierEternal: so that he could essentially tell our team and all of our fans to go f*ck ourselves.

Funny how you said that in his eyes, it was all about him, then you pretend it was all about you.

When the f*ck did I say it was all about us? All I said was that he f*cking humiliated us on national TV. He did this while being a narcissistic sh*t sandwich. There's not any contradiction there.


So we'll get in a time machine and another team can get Lebron for all those years; because you whiny bastards didn't deserve him to begin with. HE WAS YOUR WHOLE TEAM and your management decided not to put any other useful pieces around him...boo..hoo. He humiliated you...he screwed your mom and took a picture and posted it online. Everyone knew he was leaving, what was so humiliating about it. He never spoke down about the city or its people...you guys are insane.

Agree with the sentiment you should just be happy you ever had a player of such a caliber.
 
2012-06-11 02:53:10 PM  

Supes: IAmRight: Like they weren't going to make the playoffs unless all of them got injured. Also, direct quote "I believe we can win multiple championships if we do it the right way" No prediction, no guarantee of championships. Just a belief that it would happen. And it was a pep rally because Miami fans suck.

Really, no predictions?


Didn't you just prove IAmRight's point?
 
2012-06-11 02:53:29 PM  

CavalierEternal: You mean aside from the obvious economic impact that the Cavaliers huge decrease in value has on Cleveland and the surrounding areas?


So, not only did LeBron basically save the Cavaliers franchise by his mere presence and role in taking them to the NBA Finals, but he was also responsible for maintaining the economy of an entire city?

You want him to take out your garbage too?
 
2012-06-11 02:53:45 PM  

Gunny Highway: CavalierEternal: Serges: If you aren't from Cleveland/Akron (I'm from Akron), I really don't expect you to understand why his departure was crushing to us and why the way he left was so much worse. People like IAmRight love LeBron and his basketball skills and that is just fine, LeBron leaving didn't affect him at all. But please, spare us the tired "get over it" line, as Scott Raab said "as if 'over it' is best defined by some asshole who likes telling other people how to feel and act."

Thank you. Very eloquently put.

How did LeBron leaving impact your lives? It is farking sports for christ's sake.

Get over it.


I don't understand this post. You can say "It's farking sports for christ's sake" to anything by that mentality. Your team won a championship and you are jumping up and down and getting hammered, it's just sports for christ's sake! Yes, it is just sports. And people take them way too serious and have been for a century now, this is nothing new.
 
2012-06-11 02:54:07 PM  

CavalierEternal: When Josh Smith develops into a LeBron-level talent, drags your team along with a game of "Will I, Won't I?" for a year, goes on national TV interviews dropping hints that Atlanta is still in the lead to re-sign him and then goes in ESPN in primetime to let the entire world know that he's going to play for the Magic, check back with me and let me know how you feel about Josh Smith.


So you are saying that LeBron's fault is that he is too good, wasn't sure where he wanted to be, and then decided that where you live wasn't the right place for him to live? Sorry, but you just come off sounding like a spoiled kid crying about the candy his mom took away.

LeBron doesn't owe anything to you or to Cleveland to be honest. You want him to be some noble white knight or something from the movies. This is reality, the dude wants to win a championship. He didn't think it would happen there, so he moved on.
 
2012-06-11 02:55:40 PM  
Who would visit Pottsville, Pennsylvania?
 
2012-06-11 02:55:46 PM  

JamUhn: So you are saying that LeBron's fault is that he is too good, wasn't sure where he wanted to be, and then decided that where you live wasn't the right place for him to live? Sorry, but you just come off sounding like a spoiled kid crying about the candy his mom took away.

LeBron doesn't owe anything to you or to Cleveland to be honest. You want him to be some noble white knight or something from the movies. This is reality, the dude wants to win a championship. He didn't think it would happen there, so he moved on.


This.
 
2012-06-11 02:56:07 PM  
I'll say it one more time; it's real f*ckin' easy to say, "LOL QUIT WHINING GET OVER IT YOU'RE PATHETIC" when nothing like that has happened or will ever happened to you.

Consider it the childbirth of sports. You'll never have any idea how it feels, so stop pretending that you know how it feels and quit being pricks to the people who do.

If you'll excuse me, I have better things to do with my time, like trying to teach the neighbor's cat to speak Russian.
 
2012-06-11 02:57:43 PM  

Supes: IAmRight: Like they weren't going to make the playoffs unless all of them got injured. Also, direct quote "I believe we can win multiple championships if we do it the right way" No prediction, no guarantee of championships. Just a belief that it would happen. And it was a pep rally because Miami fans suck.

Really, no predictions?


For one, he did qualify it with "if we do it the right way." For two, it was a pep rally. The whole purpose of a pep rally is to say stuff like that so people get excited.

My point earlier about The Decision being a PR mistake and not a crime worth years of grudges? Same holds true for me on this.
 
2012-06-11 02:57:43 PM  

Serges: I normally really appreciate your posts, but the Cavs declining a Amar'e/ Hickson trade is flat out not true. Both the Suns and the Cavs have come out after the fact to confirm this.


What was the story on this then? Granted this has been a while ago by now, but the Amare trade was definitely out there and available at the time.
 
2012-06-11 02:57:50 PM  

CavalierEternal: If you'll excuse me, I have better things to do with my time, like trying to teach the neighbor's cat to speak Russian.


My neighbor's cat already know some Russian. Of course, I'm in Russia.
 
2012-06-11 02:59:22 PM  

FreakinB: Supes: IAmRight: Like they weren't going to make the playoffs unless all of them got injured. Also, direct quote "I believe we can win multiple championships if we do it the right way" No prediction, no guarantee of championships. Just a belief that it would happen. And it was a pep rally because Miami fans suck.

Really, no predictions?

For one, he did qualify it with "if we do it the right way." For two, it was a pep rally. The whole purpose of a pep rally is to say stuff like that so people get excited.

My point earlier about The Decision being a PR mistake and not a crime worth years of grudges? Same holds true for me on this.


I actually disagree for the pep rally part. What the hell is he supposed to say? "We will win one, and only one, title. Yay!!"
 
2012-06-11 02:59:36 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: CavalierEternal: Still having trouble grasping the whole "it's not that he left, it's how he left" point?

I get it. "The Decision" was farking idiotic and insulting, and I understand why Cleveland folks like yourself would be upset by that.

However, I also get that it was two years ago. Have some farking pride and stop pining over the "one that got away".


What your typical Cavs fan looks like: Link
 
2012-06-11 02:59:38 PM  

Serges: I don't understand this post. You can say "It's farking sports for christ's sake" to anything by that mentality. Your team won a championship and you are jumping up and down and getting hammered, it's just sports for christ's sake! Yes, it is just sports. And people take them way too serious and have been for a century now, this is nothing new.


It's essentially a modern incarnation of the ancient concept of combat-by-champion. Our city/region/whatever can kick your city's ass, and to prove it, here's a group of people to represent us against your equivalent number. We'll let them fight it out and the rest of us can all walk away unscathed.
 
2012-06-11 02:59:58 PM  

The_Sponge: fonebone77: Yay. Another thread for Sonics fans to whine and blame Oklahoma for all their woes! I guess we can look forward to this for years to come as it looks like OKC will be pretty competitive. Some people have said if the Thunder sucked we wouldn't be hearing anything about this. I don't think that is true. We'd be hearing Seattle fans gloating about how we are getting what we deserve. Kinda like how they did the first year. Don't worry, some day they wont be very good and you will get your chance. The Seahawks used to be a team I would go for if my team was failing, but not anymore, the combination of insults directed at Oklahoma and Pete Carroll have earned my ire for any Seattle team. Go Cardinals, Rams, 49ers! I hope Carroll screws you guys as bad as he did USC (without the championships). I dont really have to mention the Mariners (but I will), they always suck.

I'm sooooo sure that the Seahawks really miss your support, and that it upsets them to no end.


They do. I got a letter from Tavaris last week apologizing for sucking on yet another team I like.
 
2012-06-11 03:00:30 PM  

Serges: I don't understand this post. You can say "It's farking sports for christ's sake" to anything by that mentality. Your team won a championship and you are jumping up and down and getting hammered, it's just sports for christ's sake! Yes, it is just sports. And people take them way too serious and have been for a century now, this is nothing new.


Yeah, but this is a level animosity directed at one person that's usually reserved for much greater offenses.
 
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