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(The Nation)   In the good vs evil story of the NBA Finals, the media has wrongly painted Miami the villain. An Oklahoma City win would reward the owners that move teams and demand new stadiums from taxpayers   (thenation.com) divider line 300
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2012-06-11 03:10:18 AM  
And a Miami win would reward the sh*tbags who bail on their loyal fans to form Super Teams in an effort to win an easy championship instead of teams like the Thunder who draft well and build solid depth.

Pick your poison.
 
2012-06-11 03:41:56 AM  
Can't we all just agree that the NBA is and is full of trash; players, owners, and management?
 
2012-06-11 05:32:56 AM  
I don't know a whole lot about basketball but I do know that Miami is the villain.
 
2012-06-11 06:17:25 AM  

GAT_00: I don't know a whole lot about basketball but I do know that Miami and Oklahoma City are is the villains.


FTFY
 
2012-06-11 08:52:11 AM  
That would be true if we cared about it from the owner's standpoint. But since most of us are just fans, we don't give a fark. Owners of sports teams are rich douchebags. Get over it.
 
2012-06-11 09:09:44 AM  
Your pathetic attempt to drum up a contrarian point of view is a sorry excuse for journalism. Die.
 
2012-06-11 09:30:07 AM  
Sad thing is, I'm rooting for Miami anyway. Mostly because I want to see how Gonzalo LeBatard reacts.

/si, si, I'm very intrigued
 
2012-06-11 09:52:05 AM  

CavalierEternal: bail on their loyal fans


I don't think you understand what this word means. You're not loyal to LeBron, at least not based on all the jersey burnings, because you turned on him as soon as he went to another team. If you're loyal to your team, then you're not a loyal fan of the player, now, are you? So he's not bailing on you - you still have your team to root for. Unlike, say, Seattle fans.

CavalierEternal: instead of teams like the Thunder who draft well and build solid depth.


Hey, maybe if the Raptors, Cavs, and Heat did this, there wouldn't be this situation. Interesting that you're rooting for management.
 
2012-06-11 09:55:51 AM  

cptjeff: Can't we all just agree that the NBA is and is full of trash; players, owners, and management?


Yes.
 
2012-06-11 10:01:43 AM  
As long as Lebron James doesn't get a championship ever in his lifetime, I don't care who wins the damn thing.
 
2012-06-11 10:08:32 AM  

ManateeGag: As long as Lebron James Clay Bennett doesn't get a championship ever in his lifetime, I don't care who wins the damn thing.


FTFY
 
2012-06-11 10:25:34 AM  
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2012-06-11 10:51:47 AM  
Are we going to do this one again. Get over it and build a new arena or you will not get another team.

/yea I watched the video
 
2012-06-11 10:53:04 AM  
Let me just copy and past some of my posts from the Game 7 thread, since this keeps happening again and again:

"Let me state this for the record: I find myself actually wanting the Heat to win this game with a huge LeBron performance just because I think the backlash against him has been excessive. That said, I'd be neutral on a Heat-OKC final."

"For fark's sake, it's two years later. What's he done since then? Commited crimes? He made a couple of bad PR decisions and people act like he shot a puppy or something. It's insane to me"

"I'd at least like there to be a better reason behind the venom. Michael Vick? I'm over it, but I can at least understand why others might not be. But LeBron? He's guilty of nothing more than, like I said, a couple of bad PR decisions. To this day people talk about it like it was some unforgivable act. I've seen actual criminals let off much easier in the court of public opinion"

Back to now...I can understand being mad at LeBron if you're a Cleveland fan. Otherwise, I just don't get it. And I'm a fan of a team that was in the running for him.
 
2012-06-11 11:13:03 AM  

CavalierEternal: And a Miami win would reward the sh*tbags who bail on their loyal fans to form Super Teams in an effort to win an easy championship instead of teams like the Thunder who draft well and build solid depth.

Pick your poison.


Anyone who watched the documentary about LeBron's high school team knew he was going to Miami and saw the justification. Why are you blaming him for choosing to work with his friends?
 
2012-06-11 11:20:55 AM  

FishyFred: CavalierEternal: And a Miami win would reward the sh*tbags who bail on their loyal fans to form Super Teams in an effort to win an easy championship instead of teams like the Thunder who draft well and build solid depth.

Pick your poison.

Anyone who watched the documentary about LeBron's high school team knew he was going to Miami and saw the justification. Why are you blaming him for choosing to work with his friends?


I dunno, because he played "Will I, Won't I?" with the Cavaliers for three years in regards to whether he would re-sign instead of letting them know outright, went on national TV to have a massive, primetime, self congratulatory wankfest, had a massive celebration with Wade & Bosh in which he predicted they'd win seven championships before they'd even made the playoffs and has continued to act like an entitled cocksucker (You jealous people have to go back to your sh*tty lives and I still get to be LeBron James) who's totally out of touch with why nobody outside of the Miami fanbase likes him?
 
2012-06-11 11:21:30 AM  

basemetal: Are we going to do this one again. Get over it and build a new arena or you will not get another team.

/yea I watched the video


Hey, it's a double-whammy of the most often complained about things in the NBA besides officiating.
 
2012-06-11 11:26:24 AM  

CavalierEternal: he played "Will I, Won't I?" with the Cavaliers for three years in regards to whether he would re-sign instead of letting them know outright


I will say that in subsequent years, Dwight Howard has made LeBron look *a lot* better in this regard. At least LeBron wasn't changing his mind all the time. I also always felt that the years of "will he or won't he?" was more media-driven than LeBron-driven, but I'm not a Cleveland guy.
 
2012-06-11 11:30:18 AM  

CavalierEternal: I dunno, because he played "Will I, Won't I?" with the Cavaliers for three years in regards to whether he would re-sign instead of letting them know outright,


So what he should've done is tell them immediately upon signing a contract extension that it would be his last and he was leaving town as soon as he became a free agent. That makes sense.

CavalierEternal: Wade & Bosh in which he predicted they'd win seven championships before they'd even made the playoffs


Like they weren't going to make the playoffs unless all of them got injured. Also, direct quote "I believe we can win multiple championships if we do it the right way" No prediction, no guarantee of championships. Just a belief that it would happen. And it was a pep rally because Miami fans suck.

CavalierEternal: continued to act like an entitled cocksucker (You jealous people have to go back to your sh*tty lives and I still get to be LeBron James)


Someone sounds bitter that the best day of his life over the past two years was when Dallas won the title, and that he hasn't accomplished anything on his own account to validate his existence.
 
2012-06-11 11:35:06 AM  

IAmRight: So what he should've done is tell them immediately upon signing a contract extension that it would be his last and he was leaving town as soon as he became a free agent. That makes sense.


No, but not making the team wait until the night of LeBronfest In Primetime would've been a mature, intelligent, reasonable thing to do. Then again, we're talking about someone who's consistently proven that he's neither mature nor intelligent.


IAmRight: Someone sounds bitter that the best day of his life over the past two years was when Dallas won the title, and that he hasn't accomplished anything on his own account to validate his existence.



So you're firmly on the "everyone's just jealous because their lives suck and LeBron is great" bandwagon?
 
2012-06-11 11:45:53 AM  

CavalierEternal: So you're firmly on the "everyone's just jealous because their lives suck and LeBron is great" bandwagon?


No, I'm on the "if you sincerely made you happy that someone failed to achieve something, then you're a sad excuse for a human being and I don't really feel bad that he reminded you that you suck at life" bandwagon.

CavalierEternal: No, but not making the team wait until the night of LeBronfest In Primetime would've been a mature, intelligent, reasonable thing to do. Then again, we're talking about someone who's consistently proven that he's neither mature nor intelligent.


So what you're upset about is day/week of uncertainty (free agency began July 1, that's when he could start hearing offers. July 8 was the first day anyone could sign with a new team. The date of "The Decision"? July 8.)?
 
2012-06-11 11:51:55 AM  

IAmRight: CavalierEternal: No, but not making the team wait until the night of LeBronfest In Primetime would've been a mature, intelligent, reasonable thing to do. Then again, we're talking about someone who's consistently proven that he's neither mature nor intelligent.

So what you're upset about is day/week of uncertainty (free agency began July 1, that's when he could start hearing offers. July 8 was the first day anyone could sign with a new team. The date of "The Decision"? July 8.)?


He had the entire season before that to let the team know whether he'd be re-signing in the offseason. He didn't have to wait until the season was over to let everyone know. It's pretty common knowledge now that he, Wade and Bosh had been arranging this since the Olympics in 2008, so why wait until the summer of 2010? Because he wanted that season to indulge in every team in the league sucking his dick to try and get him to come to their city because he's a narcissistic media whore who doesn't really care about anyone but LeBron James (as he would so eloquently put it since he started referring to himself in the third person after last year's Finals).
 
2012-06-11 11:59:26 AM  

CavalierEternal: Because he wanted that season to indulge in every team in the league sucking his dick to try and get him to come to their city


Ah, I see why you're confused, you're not well-versed in the real world. Here's some news for you: talented job-seekers often milk the recruiting process in order to ego-stroke as well as get themselves the best possible deal. It's not exclusive to LeBron. It's been done for countless years in countless professions.

I guess most people who have a problem with that don't have much of an idea what it's like to be desirable to employers, so that explains their impotent rage.

CavalierEternal: He had the entire season before that to let the team know whether he'd be re-signing in the offseason.


So he should've said he wasn't coming back, no matter what, at the beginning of the season...because that would've worked out well, especially given how Gilbert reacted to him leaving in general.
 
2012-06-11 12:04:24 PM  

IAmRight: CavalierEternal: He had the entire season before that to let the team know whether he'd be re-signing in the offseason.

So he should've said he wasn't coming back, no matter what, at the beginning of the season...because that would've worked out well, especially given how Gilbert reacted to him leaving in general.


Gilbert reacted to the way he left like the rest of us. Had he let the team know beforehand of his intention not to re-sign, it wouldn't had strung up the team in regards to salary cap, trade options, a contingency plan, etc. It would've been the mature, reasonable thing to do. You go on and on about "Oh, everyone who isn't a loser and is desirable to employers does exactly what LeBron did", but what you're ignoring is that, generally, for someone looking for a job at a bank or a law firm or whatever, there aren't millions of people who give two sh*ts what you do. LeBron had millions of people who were counting on him to at least handle the situation like an adult instead of a spoiled 13-year-old. You'd understand that if you'd pull his dick out of your eye for five minutes.
 
2012-06-11 12:17:35 PM  

CavalierEternal: Gilbert reacted to the way he left like the rest of us.


Like a bunch of pathetic losers who felt that someone you didn't know "owed you," I'm aware.

So if LeBron does tell Gilbert that he plans on leaving after the season (of course, it's mere conjecture that he knew at this point), what options does that open up for Cleveland?

a) they can tank the season to spite LeBron - not sure you'd notice much of a difference, given that roster/coach
b) they can trade LeBron midseason wherever they want (he'd have to have publicly claimed that he wasn't coming back, or else there's no way anyone's trading the best player in the league mid-season)
c) they can just force LeBron to stay all year and try to win a title anyway, but do it with everyone in the city hating him and threatening his family for 50+ home games

Yeah, that sounds like a real win-win for LeBron.

The basic question is: how much loyalty does one owe to a former employer? You seem to think that people should put their employers' interests ahead of their own, which shows an obscene lack of awareness regarding professional sports.
 
2012-06-11 12:20:04 PM  

IAmRight: CavalierEternal: Gilbert reacted to the way he left like the rest of us.

Like a bunch of pathetic losers who felt that someone you didn't know "owed you," I'm aware.

So if LeBron does tell Gilbert that he plans on leaving after the season (of course, it's mere conjecture that he knew at this point), what options does that open up for Cleveland?

a) they can tank the season to spite LeBron - not sure you'd notice much of a difference, given that roster/coach
b) they can trade LeBron midseason wherever they want (he'd have to have publicly claimed that he wasn't coming back, or else there's no way anyone's trading the best player in the league mid-season)
c) they can just force LeBron to stay all year and try to win a title anyway, but do it with everyone in the city hating him and threatening his family for 50+ home games

Yeah, that sounds like a real win-win for LeBron.

The basic question is: how much loyalty does one owe to a former employer? You seem to think that people should put their employers' interests ahead of their own, which shows an obscene lack of awareness regarding professional sports.


Fark's biggest LeBron James apologist, everyone.

Anyone who disagrees with LeBron James' decision is a pathetic loser and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if a team that won over 60 games in 2009 were to tank the season.

Such is the logic of IAmRight.
 
2012-06-11 12:28:02 PM  

CavalierEternal: Anyone who disagrees with LeBron James' decision is a pathetic loser and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if a team that won over 60 games in 2009 were to tank the season.


Efficiency-rating-wise, their second best player was 79-year-old Shaquille O'Neal, whose go-to move was to set his walker down in front of the defender as a screen and then bank in a layup. I mean, you could probably get worse players, but you're going to have to actively scout for them. (I mean, I suppose you might try trading with the Bobcats nowadays if you need to get worse, but even some Bobcats are better than the rest of the Cavs were).
 
2012-06-11 12:29:19 PM  

CavalierEternal: Fark's biggest LeBron James apologist, everyone.

Anyone who disagrees with LeBron James' decision is a pathetic loser and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if a team that won over 60 games in 2009 were to tank the season.

Such is the logic of IAmRight


The "pathetic loser" part is unnecessary and the crappy team part is wrong (obviously they were good that season, though IMO most of that was LeBron). But I think his assessment of possible reactions to coming out with it early is pretty much spot-on. Besides, maybe LeBron legitimately wanted to see what could happen in that last season regardless of any Olympic plans.

Also, coming out with it early didn't help Carmelo Anthony at all. He was going to get shiat on either way.
 
2012-06-11 12:32:14 PM  

FreakinB: The "pathetic loser" part is unnecessary


It's only because it's CE.

And really, writing a public letter crying about a player leaving in comic sans is pretty pathetic and lame. Gilbert was plenty okay with going for the sign-and-trade of someone he felt so wronged by. Guess it's not so bad when you get three first-rounders and the potential to swap another one.
 
2012-06-11 12:33:03 PM  

IAmRight: So what he should've done is tell them immediately upon signing a contract extension that it would be his last and he was leaving town as soon as he became a free agent. That makes sense.


It's easy to say this: "I don't comment on unsigned contracts or contract negotiations." The "Is he is, or is he ain't" was really stupid, the show was even dumber. The criticism that "I don't mind him going, I hated the way he went." is very valid.

That said, the backlash against him personally has been rather overblown. I was more surprised by his blunders than anything else - in Cleveland he seemed rather well-handled. To see a PR f*ckup of that magnitude was stunning. Now I just look at him the same as any other NBA douchbag player.
 
2012-06-11 12:50:19 PM  
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2012-06-11 12:52:11 PM  

CavalierEternal: I dunno, because he played "Will I, Won't I?" with the Cavaliers for three years in regards to whether he would re-sign instead of letting them know outright, went on national TV to have a massive, primetime, self congratulatory wankfest, had a massive celebration with Wade & Bosh in which he predicted they'd win seven championships before they'd even made the playoffs and has continued to act like an entitled cocksucker (You jealous people have to go back to your sh*tty lives and I still get to be LeBron James) who's totally out of touch with why nobody outside of the Miami fanbase likes him?


All of this.
 
2012-06-11 12:54:29 PM  
It's what they do.
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2012-06-11 12:55:10 PM  
i don't watch basketball, but here's what i don't understand

cleveland (allegedly) lost games on purpose just so they could draft lebron james. why would anybody need to be loyal to a professional sports team that (allegedly) loses on purpose. just because they drafted him doesn't mean that they own him forever. he only did what any smart or talented person in ohio would do...
HE GOT THE FARK OUT OF OHIO!
 
2012-06-11 12:55:49 PM  
BTW, I'd rather have a player not say whether he's staying or going until free agency than have an owner come in and take my team away, then realize he has to pretend to be interested in staying, so make a ridiculous request, then blame my city for not "playing ball" and take the team away anyway.

But yeah, that's just me. I know Cleveland doesn't mind when people take their franchises away. Right?
 
2012-06-11 12:56:23 PM  

FreakinB: will say that in subsequent years, Dwight Howard has made LeBron look *a lot* better in this regard.


He has, but I still don't think the more casual fans out there have really noticed. Howard played the media like a f*cking fiddle for so long with his wide smile and jokey nature, superman cape act, etc that it will take awhile for his actions this past season to really sink in.
 
2012-06-11 12:56:52 PM  

SnarfVader: I don't know a whole lot about basketball but I do know that Miami and Oklahoma City are is be the villains.


FTFY
 
2012-06-11 12:57:14 PM  

IAmRight: So what he should've done is tell them immediately upon signing a contract extension that it would be his last and he was leaving town as soon as he became a free agent. That makes sense.


Look I know LeBron's your boy and/or you like to be contrarian on this, but please don't act like LeBron is blameless in that mess. He definitely lead Cleveland on for at least that last season (you can never prove it but at least LeBron and Wade had to be talking about this for quite some time previous to that summer), and at a minimum his decision should have been a meeting in private with Cleveland management and a simple "Thank you for 7 great years, I have decided to move on" press release, rather than that circus they tried pull off.
 
2012-06-11 12:57:15 PM  
No matter who wins, basketball loses. You either give vindication to the concept of haves and have-nots, or you give vindication to a city being robbed of their team. The best thing to do is to simply watch something else and drive the ratings down as far as possible.
 
2012-06-11 12:57:19 PM  

animesucks: why would anybody need to be loyal to a professional sports team that (allegedly) loses on purpose.


Because he's from a suburb that Clevelanders regularly sh*t on until it turns out that one of them is really talented, then they'll pretend that that guy's from Cleveland.
 
2012-06-11 12:59:38 PM  

Gosling: No matter who wins, basketball loses. You either give vindication to the concept of haves and have-nots, or you give vindication to a city being robbed of their team. The best thing to do is to simply watch something else and drive the ratings down as far as possible.


/thread
 
2012-06-11 12:59:38 PM  
Oklahoma Ospreys has a nice ring to it for an NFL team.

Wouldnt even need to change the logo except to get rid of the Radioactive Green color
 
2012-06-11 12:59:47 PM  
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Go Heat!!!!
 
2012-06-11 01:00:03 PM  

jayhawk88: He definitely lead Cleveland on for at least that last season


Sure, but again, what's he supposed to do? Everyone gets pissed when you say you want a trade. You can't just say "hey guys, I'm quitting on you at the end of the year. But let's try really hard for the rest of this season, alright?"

jayhawk88: a minimum his decision should have been a meeting in private with Cleveland management and a simple "Thank you for 7 great years, I have decided to move on" press release, rather than that circus they tried pull off.


Meh, the end result is that a kids' charity got several million dollars that they wouldn't have received, ESPN got a sh*tload of viewers it never would've received, and James got all the blame for everything, while really getting nothing out of the whole deal.
 
2012-06-11 01:03:53 PM  
Done in one.
 
2012-06-11 01:05:06 PM  

IAmRight: Meh, the end result is that a kids' charity got several million dollars that they wouldn't have received


Care to explain why he couldn't just quietly donate a huge amount of money to charity instead of going on TV to let millions of people know that he was donating the money to charity?
 
2012-06-11 01:05:39 PM  

jayhawk88: minimum his decision should have been a meeting in private with Cleveland management and a simple "Thank you for 7 great years, I have decided to move on" press release, rather than that circus they tried pull off.



IIRC even Jim Gray has tried to wash his hands of The Decision. I heard him on someone's podcast, i'm thinking Rich Eisen but that doesn't sound right, and as i recall, Gray said LeBron's team approcahed him about the even and it kept getting bigger and bigger. it went from an exclusive announcement to a TV, to "gee, wouldn't it be great if we did this in front of a bunch of kids?" and spiraled into the schlockfest it was.

also, i think LeBron mentally checking out of that last playoff game vs the Celtics was the answer. remember him just completely going Rain Man during the game? i know the joke is LeBron disappears in teh 4th quarter but....mentally, he wasn't present. he was sleepwalking practically. i think that was him realizing, on the court, that he was done in that city.
 
2012-06-11 01:05:59 PM  

Gosling: No matter who wins, basketball loses. You either give vindication to the concept of haves and have-nots, or you give vindication to a city being robbed of their team. The best thing to do is to simply watch something else and drive the ratings down as far as possible.


That will make basketball win?
 
2012-06-11 01:08:15 PM  

SilentStrider: Sad thing is, I'm rooting for Miami anyway. Mostly because I want to see how Gonzalo LeBatard reacts.

/si, si, I'm very intrigued


Ha! I love that show.
 
2012-06-11 01:09:18 PM  
fark schultz! fark stern! fark clay!

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