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(BBC)   Confirming what we always knew, all US vodka is equally devoid of taste, with different brands being indistinguishable from others by taste   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 203
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2012-06-11 01:46:55 AM
Color me shocked:

Many American vodkas contribute little to the actual manufacturing - they merely purchase 95% ethyl alcohol from industrial giants like Archer Daniels Midland or Midwest Grain Processors, add water, and filter the product to varying degrees.

With little noticeable distinction in taste, vodka makers rely on sophisticated marketing and branding campaigns to win customers, analysts say

...


Distilled Resources Inc, also in Idaho, ferments, distils and bottles high-end flavoured and unflavoured vodkas for dozens of brands who contract with the company.

"They came up with the name, they selected the bottle," says Gray Ottley, the distillery's director and vice-chairman, about one of the vodkas.

"That's their brand. They filed the trade mark."




Congrats, vodka drinkers. You're drinking something utterly generic, produced on an industrial scale, differentiated only by what's on the bottle.
 
2012-06-11 02:45:18 AM

cptjeff: Color me shocked:

Many American vodkas contribute little to the actual manufacturing - they merely purchase 95% ethyl alcohol from industrial giants like Archer Daniels Midland or Midwest Grain Processors, add water, and filter the product to varying degrees.

With little noticeable distinction in taste, vodka makers rely on sophisticated marketing and branding campaigns to win customers, analysts say

...


Distilled Resources Inc, also in Idaho, ferments, distils and bottles high-end flavoured and unflavoured vodkas for dozens of brands who contract with the company.

"They came up with the name, they selected the bottle," says Gray Ottley, the distillery's director and vice-chairman, about one of the vodkas.

"That's their brand. They filed the trade mark."




Congrats, vodka drinkers. You're drinking something utterly generic, produced on an industrial scale, differentiated only by what's on the bottle.


That's the point. Who the hell does vodak shots? It's for mixing.
 
2012-06-11 03:33:32 AM
Good. that's how it should be. if vodka has a real taste you're doing it wrong.
 
2012-06-11 03:38:19 AM

RobertBruce: Good. that's how it should be. if vodka has a real taste you're doing it wrong.


Yes, but there are a lot of morons who think they're getting something special with "premium" vodka. It's the same goddamn stuff you get for $10 a bottle.

As somebody who cares about how things taste, vodka claiming to be anything other than a tool for getting drunk fast simply pisses me off.
 
2012-06-11 05:13:07 AM
I drink a pint of Skol every day to keep me alert. I'd never spend more than 5 bucks a day on the stuff though, I have a budget. Aristocrat is a bit rougher on the skull.
 
2012-06-11 08:47:07 AM
If it has a taste, you're doing it wrong.
 
2012-06-11 08:48:45 AM
All vodka tastes like ass to me.

*shrug*
 
2012-06-11 08:49:10 AM
I go with Smirnoff, $16.99 for 1.5L and I like the plastic bottle, doesn't weigh so much
 
2012-06-11 08:49:46 AM
Isnt that the point of good vodak? To have no taste?
 
2012-06-11 08:52:26 AM
Vodak has a distinguishable flavor?
 
2012-06-11 08:52:56 AM

Dick Gozinya: Isnt that the point of good vodak? To have no taste?


To obliterate taste buds, more accurately- near as I can tell.
 
2012-06-11 08:53:15 AM
I can appreciate the idea that the final taste of a vodka can reflect the water used, the soil that the potatoes grew in, etc. At least to my taste buds, Snow Queen and Reyka are both very good, yet they taste different from each other.
 
2012-06-11 08:54:14 AM

Shrinkwrap: If it has a taste, you're doing it wrong.


... or, you're doing it very right.

/have done vodak blind taste tests, can consistently detect potato vs. corn vs. white grape vodak
//Gray Goose is a waste of money
 
2012-06-11 08:54:18 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I can appreciate the idea that the final taste of a vodka can reflect the water used, the soil that the potatoes grew in, etc. At least to my taste buds, Snow Queen and Reyka are both very good, yet they taste different from each other.


Vast majority of vodkas are made from grain, not potatoes
 
2012-06-11 08:55:38 AM
I dump the Popov I've run through a Brita filter into Chopin/belvedere bottles and nobody can tell the difference.
 
2012-06-11 08:55:54 AM
Clear liquor is for rich women on diets.
 
2012-06-11 08:55:58 AM
In before thread goes epic.
 
2012-06-11 08:56:15 AM
I actually totally disagree. Vodkas definitely taste different, especially if you're drinking it on ice, or with soda. If you're mixing it, who cares what you're drinking - but that goes with all booze. If you're actually not pounding it get get drunk, then Ketel One, Tito's, Grey Goose, or Belvedere. Those who claim they all taste the same have burned out heir palates a long time ago.
 
2012-06-11 08:56:51 AM
Wait until people find out that 90% of *all* booze out there is made by mixing grain alcohol and congener syrups much like the way a soda machine works.
 
2012-06-11 08:57:52 AM
Waiting for the vodka snobs to start posting images of expensive vodka.
 
2012-06-11 08:57:53 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I can appreciate the idea that the final taste of a vodka can reflect the water used, the soil that the potatoes grew in, etc. At least to my taste buds, Snow Queen and Reyka are both very good, yet they taste different from each other.


Yeah, I agree - but I think the point being made is that most "premium" vodkas are just a marketing gimmick, and in reality it's just being used to put alcohol in a mixed drink. Which is fine in its own right, if that's your bag, but you might as well save some money by buying a cheaper one instead of spending your money on the packaging.
 
2012-06-11 08:57:56 AM

cptjeff:


Congrats, vodka drinkers. You're drinking something utterly generic, produced on an industrial scale, differentiated only by what's on the bottle.


Would like a word. . .
 
2012-06-11 08:58:12 AM
I know it's not for everyone, but I actually like potato vodka, usually the Polish brand Chopin.
 
2012-06-11 08:59:28 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: cptjeff: Color me shocked:

Many American vodkas contribute little to the actual manufacturing - they merely purchase 95% ethyl alcohol from industrial giants like Archer Daniels Midland or Midwest Grain Processors, add water, and filter the product to varying degrees.

With little noticeable distinction in taste, vodka makers rely on sophisticated marketing and branding campaigns to win customers, analysts say

...


Distilled Resources Inc, also in Idaho, ferments, distils and bottles high-end flavoured and unflavoured vodkas for dozens of brands who contract with the company.

"They came up with the name, they selected the bottle," says Gray Ottley, the distillery's director and vice-chairman, about one of the vodkas.

"That's their brand. They filed the trade mark."




Congrats, vodka drinkers. You're drinking something utterly generic, produced on an industrial scale, differentiated only by what's on the bottle.

That's the point. Who the hell does vodak shots? It's for mixing.


A good chunk of the population of Russia, I would think. I just don't see Vladimir Putin being a big fan of mixology.
 
2012-06-11 09:01:18 AM
Didn't Mythbusters do a show on this? Old news is old.
 
2012-06-11 09:01:48 AM

RobertBruce: if vodka has a real taste you're doing it wrong.


It's not so much that as it is that all vodka makers are "doing it wrong" and catering to sorority girls instead of making something enjoyable. Grain vodkas are certainly generally indistinguishable, but potato and rye vodkas are noticeably distinct. (There's also corn vodka out there, which is very different, but not my bag.)

Try this sometime.

pennportal.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-11 09:02:52 AM
I like 4-Orange. Distilled from Florida oranges, so they say.....
 
2012-06-11 09:02:57 AM

apeman12: Those who claim they all taste the same have burned out heir palates a long time ago.


I don't think my palate has 'burned out.' Most alcohol tastes the same to me, with a few exceptions. Vodka tastes the same to me as.. whiskey for example. When I imbibe either beverage, all my tongue senses is the overpowering chemical taste of alcohol.

Beer is the same, only with a bitter tinge to it. Wine has the same alcohol-y flavor with a slight bad-grape-juice taste.

I'm pretty sure it's genetic, since neither of my parents drink. I think my dad had champagne once at a wedding. And my mom will have a margarita every now and again while on vacation.
 
2012-06-11 09:02:58 AM
somoene ran some popov through a brita filter 4-5 times, and said they couldn't tell the difference between the filtered popov and ketel one.

/to lazy to find it
 
2012-06-11 09:03:49 AM
"We're telling people 'no' a lot of the time," he said. "Beyond the name, this product is trying to enter a competitive set that is crowded already. "

Why do you hate capitalism?
 
2012-06-11 09:04:03 AM

maxheck: Wait until people find out that 90% of *all* booze out there is made by mixing grain alcohol and congener syrups much like the way a soda machine works.


Gee ya think?
shop.homebrew.com

/homebrewer
 
2012-06-11 09:04:11 AM
http://www.scocia.com/newsite/Gin_and_Vodka.pdf.pdf

Pay special attention to pages 206 and 207. Maybe you'll learn something before you submit another herpy-derpy headline again, duhmitter.
 
2012-06-11 09:04:14 AM
I can't even think of vodak without raging now, all because of that chick Smirnoff's using to push it's flavored crap. Her voice grates on my nerves and it's the worse voiceover work this side of the first Resident Evil game.
 
2012-06-11 09:09:15 AM
Au contraire. The true vodka connoisseur is not assessesing taste but the lack of taste. The greatest vodkas have a subtle and elegant lack of taste that can only be appeciated by the most sophisticated palate. Any fool can say, "This vodka exhibits a lack of taste"; only the true expert can say, "This vodka exhibits a SUBLIME lack of taste."
 
2012-06-11 09:10:30 AM

Edsel: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I can appreciate the idea that the final taste of a vodka can reflect the water used, the soil that the potatoes grew in, etc. At least to my taste buds, Snow Queen and Reyka are both very good, yet they taste different from each other.

Yeah, I agree - but I think the point being made is that most "premium" vodkas are just a marketing gimmick, and in reality it's just being used to put alcohol in a mixed drink. Which is fine in its own right, if that's your bag, but you might as well save some money by buying a cheaper one instead of spending your money on the packaging.


Agreed for sure. =) If I'm using it for mixing, I'll buy just about any of the cheaper brands. Like you said, they pretty much all taste the same.

If I'm going to drink it straight up though (or with a small twist), I'll spring for some of the truly good stuff, such as Snow Queen.
 
2012-06-11 09:12:03 AM
Being a vodka snob is like being a white paint aficionado.
 
2012-06-11 09:13:48 AM
You can't go wrong with Sobieski vodka (made from rye). Tastes decent and is inexpensive. I've been enjoying it in mixed drinks for years.
 
2012-06-11 09:14:46 AM

Confabulat: Aristocrat is a bit rougher on the skull.


Of course it is. Skull-farking is part of the act. The agent loves it.
 
2012-06-11 09:15:12 AM

cptjeff: Congrats, American brand vodka drinkers. You're drinking something utterly generic, produced on an industrial scale, differentiated only by what's on the bottle.


FTFY.

I realize this may come as a shock to some of you, but America is not the home of vodka nor the arbiter of how vodka should taste. Flaunting your opinion of vodka -- and even more so, vodka drinkers -- based on mass market US brands is about as ignorant and foolish as asserting that beer drinkers are "drinking something utterly generic, produced on an industrial scale, differentiated only by what's on the bottle" because Miller Lite and Bud Light are indistinguishable. Yes, that's exactly how silly you sound.

If you haven't actually tasted European and Russian vodka, as produced for the central and eastern European markets, your thoughts on this topic are not worth the electrons they're written on.
 
2012-06-11 09:17:44 AM

apeman12: I actually totally disagree. Vodkas definitely taste different, especially if you're drinking it on ice, or with soda. If you're mixing it, who cares what you're drinking - but that goes with all booze. If you're actually not pounding it get get drunk, then Ketel One, Tito's, Grey Goose, or Belvedere. Those who claim they all taste the same have burned out heir palates a long time ago.


Yeah, i did a blind taste test with what i had one time. I was able to tell which was Ketel One, which was Titos and which was Stoli.

/not implying that premium is better
//just that i can taste a DIFFERENCE between brands.
 
2012-06-11 09:17:58 AM

czetie: asserting that beer drinkers are "drinking something utterly generic, produced on an industrial scale, differentiated only by what's on the bottle" because Miller Lite and Bud Light are indistinguishable.


Pabst Blue Ribbon, the iconic and ironic beverage of moronic hipsters, is actually produced on an industrial scale by Miller.
 
2012-06-11 09:19:22 AM
I forget which, but one of the news programs that does the more in-depth report (maybe Nightline?) did a piece on the vodka a few years ago. They rounded up several NYC clubsters who claimed they just loved the vodka, only drank Grey Goose or Ketel 1 or some such, couldn't stomach anything else, etc. Then they did a blind taste test with 5 vodaks: first round was straight, second round was in a mixed cocktail. The vodka used was Grey Goose, Smirnoff, something else middle-of-the-road, and some bargain basement generic sold in super markets that sell hooch.

Only one guy picked his beloved Grey Goose. Nobody could tell the difference. A few of them picked the cheap stuff as their favorite, mis-identifying it as the Goose. The story was on the power of brand marketing, the moral of the story was save your cash and don't ask for brand-name vodka when ordering the stuff straight or in a mixed drink. It only shows you're a chump with more money than sense.
 
2012-06-11 09:19:55 AM

Ikam: You can't go wrong with Sobieski vodka (made from rye). Tastes decent and is inexpensive. I've been enjoying it in mixed drinks for years.


Thank you. Sobieski is an amazing vodka.
 
2012-06-11 09:20:09 AM
No taste? That's not what the ladies tell me.
 
2012-06-11 09:22:24 AM
Not raging the issue of taste, but of headache: I bought the Costco brand once, to escape the price tyranny of the major labels. the resultant, predictable headaches with just one martini made me swear off the cheaper brands.

/After I'd finished off the entire 5-gallon Costco bottle, of course.
 
2012-06-11 09:22:29 AM

Theaetetus: Shrinkwrap: If it has a taste, you're doing it wrong.

... or, you're doing it very right.

/have done vodak blind taste tests, can consistently detect potato vs. corn vs. white grape vodak
//Gray Goose is a waste of money


I found Grey Goose to have a weird, apple-like aftertaste that I dont like.
 
2012-06-11 09:22:44 AM
Of course American vodka is devoid of flavor and whatnot! Americans make a fine alcohol of their own that is far superior to ANY Vodka. It's made in Kentucky and taste great on the rocks.

/I've had ONE Vodka that I've ever really enjoyed
//Hammer + Sickle
 
2012-06-11 09:22:53 AM

bigpeeler: Ikam: You can't go wrong with Sobieski vodka (made from rye). Tastes decent and is inexpensive. I've been enjoying it in mixed drinks for years.

Thank you. Sobieski is an amazing vodka.


Thirding this. I used Sobieski to make candy cane vodka this past winter and it has just the right base flavor to make that stuff twice as delicious.

/dump candy canes into mason jar, cover with vodka, shake, let sit overnight. Voila!
 
2012-06-11 09:23:29 AM
"raging" = "arguing" run through the helpful spell checker. Grr.
 
2012-06-11 09:23:55 AM

dmax: Not raging the issue of taste, but of headache: I bought the Costco brand once, to escape the price tyranny of the major labels. the resultant, predictable headaches with just one martini made me swear off the cheaper brands.

/After I'd finished off the entire 5-gallon Costco bottle, of course.


Costco's Kirkland brand is Grey Goose in a different bottle
 
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