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(Independent)   Carrie Underwood goes full Dixie Chicks   (independent.co.uk) divider line 38
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2012-06-10 11:03:15 PM
5 votes:
Marrying a Canadian didn't hurt Carrie but this will.

Her and Mike Fisher are very religious people.. but it sounds like they actually pay attention to the love and don't criticize part of religion. Good on them. More Christians need to be like them.
2012-06-11 02:28:11 AM
4 votes:

Nerdhurter: 4. If it's fine to try to blacklist Limbaugh when he says something incredibly ignorant, stop your biatchin if it goes contrary to your beliefs.


If you don't like what Natalie Maines said, and decide to boycott the Dixie Chicks, that's a bit vindictive to me but perfectly within your rights. You can call the radio station and say "please don't play the Dixie Chicks" and refuse to buy Dixie Chicks CDs. Same with Rush. If he says something you don't like, you can call his advertisers and complain. I would just turn the station, but hey, that's just me.

Only it didn't end there. The Dixie Chicks got death threats. Natalie Maines' home was vandalized. Her father - a combat veteran - received hate mail. Those are not the actions of sane people, and they're not acceptable responses no matter what Natalie Maines said or where she said it.
2012-06-11 03:00:13 AM
3 votes:

Nerdhurter: I'm sure Limbaugh never received a death threat.


So what? Death threats are not an acceptable response to any public figure - left, right or whatever - making a political statement. "They did it too!" is no defense. Whoever made (or continues to make) threats against Rush's safety is flat out wrong, just like whoever did the same against Natalie Maines or her father was flat out wrong.

Good lord, the fact that I have to explain that amazes me.
2012-06-11 02:34:10 AM
3 votes:

IlGreven: DancingElkCondor: What got the Ditzy Chicks in trouble was that they did what they did during the middle of a war.

So when would be a more convenient time to speak out?

DancingElkCondor: Even people not supportive of Bush or the war did not like the attack on our troops,

Funny, I don't remember any attack on our troops, just the President at the time. Or is the President part of "the troops" because he's the Commander-in-Chief?


You bring up another good point. Where is all the "support your president" attitude for the commander in chief from our current military like they were during the Bush reign? They're both Christians. Oh yeah, he has a "D" by his name instead of an "R". Farking hypocrites.
2012-06-11 12:02:08 AM
3 votes:
As for the gay marriage votes this November :

i181.photobucket.com

Human rights shouldn't be something that's up for a vote.
2012-06-11 02:17:58 AM
2 votes:
1. Dixie Chicks said what they said 10 days before the Iraq war.
2. They said it in London.
3. They continued to make shiatty little political remarks afterwards.
4. If it's fine to try to blacklist Limbaugh when he says something incredibly ignorant, stop your biatchin if it goes contrary to your beliefs.
5. Know your audience.
2012-06-11 01:14:28 AM
2 votes:
The sticking point is always that word that incites so many emotions, good and bad. No, I'm not talking about gay, I'm talking about the word marriage. The federal government, to borrow a conservative talking point, "shouldn't be in the business of" marriage.

Civil unions. For ALL. Gay, lesbian, transgendered, heterosexual, whatever. One term, civil union. Same tax benefits, insurance, hospital visitation rights for all.

Marriage is a religious term, leave that in the hands of the churches.
2012-06-10 11:07:25 PM
2 votes:

STRYPERSWINE: The Dixie Cicks had more talent, naive as they may be. I don't think this will hurt Underwood as bad. Gay marriage is the Democrats' red herring to distract from the economy. Plenty of people don't care about it.


Yeah, I wish the Democrats would stop wasting time with wedge issues like civil rights.
2012-06-10 11:06:40 PM
2 votes:

STRYPERSWINE: The Dixie Cicks had more talent, naive as they may be. I don't think this will hurt Underwood as bad. Gay marriage is the Democrats' red herring to distract from the economy. Plenty of people don't care about it.


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2012-06-10 09:32:15 PM
2 votes:
Given where she came from, this is pretty gutsy.
2012-06-11 02:07:45 PM
1 votes:

zarberg: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7155493/77414561#c77414561" target="_blank">PsyLord</a>:</b> <i>GAT_00: Oh man the tolerant, loving, so much in the majority Christians are just going to savage her, which sucks because I have respect for anyone who can manage to sing Alone properly. Plus that one song about her farking up the BF's car is pretty funny.

This almost redeems her for her support of criminal vandalism.</i>

That song bugs me so much, especially in its wide-spread acceptance. An angry girl singing about completely smashing her boyfriend's (note, not husband, boyfriend) expensive truck is "brave" and "edgy" but if the genders were reversed the guy wouldn't be edgy or brave, he'd be incarcerated.


this
2012-06-11 10:18:02 AM
1 votes:
Since the bans have been passed in over 30 states now. it really isn't going against popular opinion.
2012-06-11 08:56:44 AM
1 votes:
Fark I am disappoint.

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2012-06-11 08:29:51 AM
1 votes:
Here's a bigger, easier to read image.

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2012-06-11 08:27:32 AM
1 votes:

tony41454: I thought this comment from the article said it all:

stannley

Just lost me as a fan. We already all have equal rights--no one gets to marry whoever they love. I can't marry someone already married, can't marry my son or dad or a child. We have boundaries in our society for the good of society--and marriage should be between a man and a woman, according to God's (and nature's) design. How self-indulgent to assume that there are no moral boundaries--that all things are gray and everyone should do whatever feels good to them, despite what is best for society in general.
Christians are called on to love, first and foremost. And truly loving my gay friends is wanting what is best for them. Being in defiance of a divine creator who does get to judge doesn't sound like something I would encourage someone I love to do.


Here's a refresher course on God's design as far as marriage is concern. Note that it's not even close to what the fundies keep spewing.

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2012-06-11 07:24:05 AM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: Mugato: Really? There's nothing more important going on?

it's how republicans focus on jobs. by stripping rights from a group of americans.


How can you strip what they never had?
2012-06-11 07:13:16 AM
1 votes:

Gordon Bennett: Prussian Blue are now pot smoking liberals. They'll soon have nothing but their old stack of scratched Johnny Rebel 45s and frequent masturbation to keep them occupied.


I still love hearing about their story. I love how all of their mother's careful planning and brainwashing just feel apart when the girls finally got out on their own. It truly shows that hatred like that is learned, you're not born that way and there is still hope to change.
2012-06-11 07:02:04 AM
1 votes:

vrax: Uhhh, did I miss the whack-job memo on the Humane Society?


No, you didn't, but don't feel bad, it is one of the reasons the HSUS sucks

"Humane Society" vs "Humane Society of the United States"

/not the best website, but it gets the point across
2012-06-11 03:10:55 AM
1 votes:
I'm already on a Bill Maher boycott, guess what, I'm on a Rush Limbaugh boycott also. I'm against anyone who can't discuss politics without insults and a extreme bias. I'm a moderate libertarian, but I was raised and am surrounded by conservatives. I just have to sit back and laugh at all the holier than thou liberals on fark and elsewhere who would gladly see Limbaugh strung up, yet let the world know how much they would just love to hate fark Sarah Palin/Michelle Malkin/S.E. Cupp. Conservatives don't hold a monopoly on hateful speech, you know that, whether you're in denial or are just attempting to score political points matters not it's counter productive and makes you look ridiculous.
2012-06-11 02:33:24 AM
1 votes:

Nerdhurter: when do we start the Bill Maher boycott?


Nobody's stopping you. Oh wait, you're a Rightie. You want someone else to do it.
2012-06-11 02:28:34 AM
1 votes:

Nerdhurter: 4. If it's fine to try to blacklist Limbaugh when he says something incredibly ignorant, stop your biatchin if it goes contrary to your beliefs.


Maines simply stated that she was ashamed to be from the same state as Bush. That hardly rises to the level of hateful vitriol Rush spews on a daily basis.

False equivalency is false.
2012-06-11 02:18:09 AM
1 votes:

No Such Agency: People burned Dixie Chicks CD's outside their churches after they spoke their politics publicly. I expect an immediate, similar response by at least somebody. The toothless angry impotent Southerner crowd will eventually be left with only their Prussian Blue albums to play over and over again.


Prussian Blue are now pot smoking liberals. They'll soon have nothing but their old stack of scratched Johnny Rebel 45s and frequent masturbation to keep them occupied.
2012-06-11 02:15:27 AM
1 votes:

skeeterjennings: Mentat: Given where she came from, this is pretty gutsy.

Considering Tulsa has one of the largest per-capita gay populations in America, and has had an active gay community since at least the late 80's/early 90's, it's not surprising to see someone from the suburbs with those views.


We beg your pardon for not being more familiar with Tulsa's demographics, but Mentat's point remains. Even if Tulsa is a shining beacon for diversity, Ms. Underwood works in an industry that has a reputation for being homophobic. Perhaps this reputation is undeserved, but she's speaking out on a hot-button topic knowing full well it's more likely to cost her fans than bring new ones into the fold. I think that's gutsy.

You couldn't pay me enough to sit through one of her albums* but I applaud her for speaking out, and for doing so in such a simple, sincere way.

*Seriously, is Jesus Take the Wheel the most ridiculous song ever? If I get into an accident can I just tell the cops "well, I started to slide so I told Jesus to take the wheel"?
2012-06-11 02:02:26 AM
1 votes:

DancingElkCondor: What got the Ditzy Chicks in trouble was that they did what they did during the middle of a war.


That's when people usually speak out against war.
2012-06-11 01:59:55 AM
1 votes:

DancingElkCondor: What got the Ditzy Chicks in trouble was that they did what they did during the middle of a war.


So when would be a more convenient time to speak out?

DancingElkCondor: Even people not supportive of Bush or the war did not like the attack on our troops,


Funny, I don't remember any attack on our troops, just the President at the time. Or is the President part of "the troops" because he's the Commander-in-Chief?

DancingElkCondor: or the smugness of Natalie Maines (the one who actually made the comment)


Funny, I also don't remember any smugness, just someone who had more balls than the hicks that listened to her music.

DancingElkCondor: Also, the Ditzy Chicks decided to have a big feud with Toby Keith...and that pretty much sealed the Chicks fate. Keith at the time was as popular as the Chicks...and fans of both sided w Keith on that one


Toby Keith is a pandering fool who will do anything to make a buck. One minute his smokin' weed with Willie again, the next he's singing about putting a boot in your ass if you disagree with him. Maines had more balls than him, too.
2012-06-11 12:02:33 AM
1 votes:

GAT_00: Plus that one song about her farking up the BF's car is pretty funny.


I will admit that that song serves a purpose as a warning indicator: If a girl likes it, keep your distance.
2012-06-10 11:45:56 PM
1 votes:
FTA: "She is the musical darling of American conservatives: a God-fearing farm girl from Oklahoma..."

She is required to fear this God? That doesn't sound like a very healthy relationship.

And righties: keep coming out on the wrong side of history:

Keep farking that chicken, conservatives.

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2012-06-10 11:43:50 PM
1 votes:

Mildot: She's blond, so it's not like she's smart or anything.


"As a married person myself, I don't know what it's like to be told I can't marry somebody I love, and want to marry," she said. "I can't imagine how that must feel. I definitely think we should all have the right to love, and love publicly, the people that we want to love."

She sounds more articulate than you.
2012-06-10 11:31:58 PM
1 votes:
What a Carrie Underwood might look like
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2012-06-10 11:19:51 PM
1 votes:
I agree with President Obama, that this issue is one for individual states to decide as they see fit.
2012-06-10 11:19:30 PM
1 votes:
Oh for crap's sake, fellow non-liberals! Get the hell over this asinine obsession with being afraid or pissed or whatever about a couple of gals or a couple of guys that want to go down to the local courthouse and let it be made official that they dig eachother as much as we Heteroes are able. Sheesh.
2012-06-10 11:17:34 PM
1 votes:

STRYPERSWINE: The Dixie Cicks had more talent, naive as they may be. I don't think this will hurt Underwood as bad. Gay marriage is the Democrats' red herring to distract from the economy. Plenty of people don't care about it.


Yeah, State's often try to change their Constitutions on issues that people don't care about.
2012-06-10 11:14:36 PM
1 votes:

STRYPERSWINE: Gay marriage is the Democrats' red herring to distract from the economy


Are you farking serious?
2012-06-10 11:09:04 PM
1 votes:
Dixie Chicks were talented but so is Carrie in her own right.
2012-06-10 10:59:32 PM
1 votes:
Good for her. The thumpers will get over it, they listen to christian music anyway.
2012-06-10 10:50:14 PM
1 votes:
Shut up and sing!

Actually I wouldn't listen to her bubble gum music but it is highly encouraging and interesting for her to say this. Maybe she figures that she's got enough money and now she has a man so when the knuckle draggers stop buying her music she won't go hungry.
2012-06-10 09:41:35 PM
1 votes:

Mugato: Really? There's nothing more important going on?


it's how republicans focus on jobs. by stripping rights from a group of americans.
2012-06-10 09:35:56 PM
1 votes:
Just in case people forgot about 2003.
So what on earth are they going to do with a willful kid like Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks? Maines, a native of Lubbock, Texas, got herself into trouble last week when she told a London audience, "Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas." The London papers barely blinked an eye, but the American media caught on fast. A Nashville radio station was deluged with phone calls on Thursday, some of those callers demanding a boycott of the Dixie Chicks' music. Two radio stations in Dallas reportedly stopped playing Dixie Chicks' music - for that day, at least. (The group's latest LP, "Home," took three Grammys last month and has been lodged firmly in the No. 1 slot on the Billboard country charts for the past 28 weeks.)

Maines didn't even rush to clean up the damage. "I feel the president is ignoring the opinion of many in the U.S. and alienating the rest of the world," she said on Thursday. "My comments were made in frustration, and one of the privileges of being an American is you are free to voice your own point of view."

Apparently that's not a privilege afforded to Grammy-winning singers with top-10 records. By Friday the suits at Sony, the group's record label, must have gotten to Maines. In a "Manchurian Candidate" style "I hear and I obey" statement - the sort of thing you might hear from someone with electrodes affixed to her temples - she said, "As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because my remark was disrespectful. I feel that whoever holds that office should be treated with the utmost respect."


Think about the GOP distancing of Bush and the accepted criticism of the presidency by the "right" during the present day.
 
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