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(Independent)   Carrie Underwood goes full Dixie Chicks   (independent.co.uk) divider line 154
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2012-06-10 09:19:08 PM  
Gay marriage will be the subject of several ballot measures in November's election

Really? There's nothing more important going on?
 
2012-06-10 09:25:24 PM  
Oh man the tolerant, loving, so much in the majority Christians are just going to savage her, which sucks because I have respect for anyone who can manage to sing Alone properly. Plus that one song about her farking up the BF's car is pretty funny.
 
2012-06-10 09:32:15 PM  
Given where she came from, this is pretty gutsy.
 
2012-06-10 09:35:56 PM  
Just in case people forgot about 2003.
So what on earth are they going to do with a willful kid like Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks? Maines, a native of Lubbock, Texas, got herself into trouble last week when she told a London audience, "Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas." The London papers barely blinked an eye, but the American media caught on fast. A Nashville radio station was deluged with phone calls on Thursday, some of those callers demanding a boycott of the Dixie Chicks' music. Two radio stations in Dallas reportedly stopped playing Dixie Chicks' music - for that day, at least. (The group's latest LP, "Home," took three Grammys last month and has been lodged firmly in the No. 1 slot on the Billboard country charts for the past 28 weeks.)

Maines didn't even rush to clean up the damage. "I feel the president is ignoring the opinion of many in the U.S. and alienating the rest of the world," she said on Thursday. "My comments were made in frustration, and one of the privileges of being an American is you are free to voice your own point of view."

Apparently that's not a privilege afforded to Grammy-winning singers with top-10 records. By Friday the suits at Sony, the group's record label, must have gotten to Maines. In a "Manchurian Candidate" style "I hear and I obey" statement - the sort of thing you might hear from someone with electrodes affixed to her temples - she said, "As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because my remark was disrespectful. I feel that whoever holds that office should be treated with the utmost respect."


Think about the GOP distancing of Bush and the accepted criticism of the presidency by the "right" during the present day.
 
2012-06-10 09:38:28 PM  

Mentat: Given where she came from, this is pretty gutsy.


Kinda sucks hockey season is over. Getting booed at a Preds game could have given a reference point to how much this pissed people off.

For those who don't know, her husband is Preds forward Mike Fisher.
 
2012-06-10 09:41:35 PM  

Mugato: Really? There's nothing more important going on?


it's how republicans focus on jobs. by stripping rights from a group of americans.
 
2012-06-10 10:24:06 PM  

Mugato: Gay marriage will be the subject of several ballot measures in November's election

Really? There's nothing more important going on?


Aside from the seeming silliness of it all, people CAN think about more than one thing at a time.
 
2012-06-10 10:29:58 PM  

Mugato: Gay marriage will be the subject of several ballot measures in November's election

Really? There's nothing more important going on?


It's an issue to get the conservative base out to the polls.
 
2012-06-10 10:31:45 PM  
Dolly Parton is a gay icon. Carrie Underwood not so much but well...

They'll get over it.
 
2012-06-10 10:34:10 PM  
Is that Dixie Chicks or chicks without dicks?
 
2012-06-10 10:37:23 PM  
I would support Carrie Underwood's marriage to an equally hot chick.
 
2012-06-10 10:37:26 PM  
Since nobody has pointed it out yet, I'd like to take the opportunity to remind the class that Carrie Underwood is goddamn gorgeous.
 
2012-06-10 10:37:40 PM  
Carrie Underwood goes full Dixie Chicks

She got fat and biatchy?
 
2012-06-10 10:45:57 PM  
She's blond, so it's not like she's smart or anything.

/regardless, I'd still do her, in a hetrosexual way of course.
 
2012-06-10 10:50:14 PM  
Shut up and sing!

Actually I wouldn't listen to her bubble gum music but it is highly encouraging and interesting for her to say this. Maybe she figures that she's got enough money and now she has a man so when the knuckle draggers stop buying her music she won't go hungry.
 
2012-06-10 10:56:49 PM  
The Dixie Cicks had more talent, naive as they may be. I don't think this will hurt Underwood as bad. Gay marriage is the Democrats' red herring to distract from the economy. Plenty of people don't care about it.
 
2012-06-10 10:59:04 PM  
Also, the Dixie Chicks went on to have a Grammy winning Rick Rubin produced tour and a sold out arena tour.
 
2012-06-10 10:59:25 PM  
It's always about the gay marriage....does she support gay divorce?
 
2012-06-10 10:59:32 PM  
Good for her. The thumpers will get over it, they listen to christian music anyway.
 
2012-06-10 11:01:44 PM  
People burned Dixie Chicks CD's outside their churches after they spoke their politics publicly. I expect an immediate, similar response by at least somebody. The toothless angry impotent Southerner crowd will eventually be left with only their Prussian Blue albums to play over and over again.
 
2012-06-10 11:03:15 PM  
Marrying a Canadian didn't hurt Carrie but this will.

Her and Mike Fisher are very religious people.. but it sounds like they actually pay attention to the love and don't criticize part of religion. Good on them. More Christians need to be like them.
 
2012-06-10 11:06:40 PM  

STRYPERSWINE: The Dixie Cicks had more talent, naive as they may be. I don't think this will hurt Underwood as bad. Gay marriage is the Democrats' red herring to distract from the economy. Plenty of people don't care about it.


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2012-06-10 11:07:25 PM  

STRYPERSWINE: The Dixie Cicks had more talent, naive as they may be. I don't think this will hurt Underwood as bad. Gay marriage is the Democrats' red herring to distract from the economy. Plenty of people don't care about it.


Yeah, I wish the Democrats would stop wasting time with wedge issues like civil rights.
 
2012-06-10 11:09:04 PM  
Dixie Chicks were talented but so is Carrie in her own right.
 
2012-06-10 11:10:55 PM  

MAYORBOB: Is that Dixie Chicks or chicks without dicks?


As opposed to chicks with dicks?
 
2012-06-10 11:13:57 PM  

Mentat: Given where she came from, this is pretty gutsy.


I might even have given a thumbs up if it had used a HERO tag for that reason. I'd see both sides of it, but I'd be willing to accept a HERO tag for this.
 
2012-06-10 11:14:36 PM  

STRYPERSWINE: Gay marriage is the Democrats' red herring to distract from the economy


Are you farking serious?
 
2012-06-10 11:17:34 PM  

STRYPERSWINE: The Dixie Cicks had more talent, naive as they may be. I don't think this will hurt Underwood as bad. Gay marriage is the Democrats' red herring to distract from the economy. Plenty of people don't care about it.


Yeah, State's often try to change their Constitutions on issues that people don't care about.
 
2012-06-10 11:19:30 PM  
Oh for crap's sake, fellow non-liberals! Get the hell over this asinine obsession with being afraid or pissed or whatever about a couple of gals or a couple of guys that want to go down to the local courthouse and let it be made official that they dig eachother as much as we Heteroes are able. Sheesh.
 
2012-06-10 11:19:51 PM  
I agree with President Obama, that this issue is one for individual states to decide as they see fit.
 
2012-06-10 11:22:32 PM  

brap: Dolly Parton is a gay icon. Carrie Underwood not so much but well...

They'll get over it.


You had me at Dolly, Carrie and gay.
 
2012-06-10 11:24:27 PM  
once taylor swift offers her support for gay marriage the rest of the country world will come around
just don't expect toby keith to be okay with it

that guy is a raging asshole
 
2012-06-10 11:24:59 PM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: Really? There's nothing more important going on?

it's how republicans focus on jobs. by stripping rights from a group of americans.


Because the democrats have NEVER sought to strip rights from groups of americans.
 
2012-06-10 11:31:58 PM  
What a Carrie Underwood might look like
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2012-06-10 11:43:50 PM  

Mildot: She's blond, so it's not like she's smart or anything.


"As a married person myself, I don't know what it's like to be told I can't marry somebody I love, and want to marry," she said. "I can't imagine how that must feel. I definitely think we should all have the right to love, and love publicly, the people that we want to love."

She sounds more articulate than you.
 
2012-06-10 11:45:56 PM  
FTA: "She is the musical darling of American conservatives: a God-fearing farm girl from Oklahoma..."

She is required to fear this God? That doesn't sound like a very healthy relationship.

And righties: keep coming out on the wrong side of history:

Keep farking that chicken, conservatives.

www.ernie-jones.com
 
2012-06-11 12:02:08 AM  
As for the gay marriage votes this November :

i181.photobucket.com

Human rights shouldn't be something that's up for a vote.
 
2012-06-11 12:02:33 AM  

GAT_00: Plus that one song about her farking up the BF's car is pretty funny.


I will admit that that song serves a purpose as a warning indicator: If a girl likes it, keep your distance.
 
2012-06-11 12:05:04 AM  
She is very naughty for having such an opinion. I think a spanking is in order. Have her brought to my chambers.
 
2012-06-11 12:06:32 AM  
Are we going to get to see her naked on the cover of Entertainment Weekly?
 
2012-06-11 12:11:33 AM  
I'd carry her under wood. Wait I mean
 
2012-06-11 12:27:20 AM  
Well, that's nice, Carrie. Thanks for your input.

Now do the world a favor and stop making saccharin, canned, pop-country bullshiat for the Walmart crowd.
 
2012-06-11 12:38:10 AM  

Trackball: Because the democrats have NEVER sought to strip rights from groups of americans.


1964 Civil Rights Act, Richard Nixon's Southern Strategy, Dixiecrats.
Look them up.
 
2012-06-11 01:14:28 AM  
The sticking point is always that word that incites so many emotions, good and bad. No, I'm not talking about gay, I'm talking about the word marriage. The federal government, to borrow a conservative talking point, "shouldn't be in the business of" marriage.

Civil unions. For ALL. Gay, lesbian, transgendered, heterosexual, whatever. One term, civil union. Same tax benefits, insurance, hospital visitation rights for all.

Marriage is a religious term, leave that in the hands of the churches.
 
2012-06-11 01:33:10 AM  

STRYPERSWINE: Gay marriage is the Democrats' red herring to distract from the economy.



More like Republicans who keep bringing up social issues to rally their ignorant base because they have admitted in the past to obstruct any laws and policies that would help the economy to prevent Obama from being re-elected?
 
2012-06-11 01:34:43 AM  

Kurmudgeon: Trackball: Because the democrats have NEVER sought to strip rights from groups of americans.

1964 Civil Rights Act, Richard Nixon's Southern Strategy, Dixiecrats.
Look them up.



History fail. Democrats of old are Republicans of today.
 
2012-06-11 01:44:03 AM  
I don't think Carrie Underwood will get the blow back like the Ditzy Chicks did.

What got the Ditzy Chicks in trouble was that they did what they did during the middle of a war. Even people not supportive of Bush or the war did not like the attack on our troops, or the smugness of Natalie Maines (the one who actually made the comment)

Also, the Ditzy Chicks decided to have a big feud with Toby Keith...and that pretty much sealed the Chicks fate. Keith at the time was as popular as the Chicks...and fans of both sided w Keith on that one
 
2012-06-11 01:53:50 AM  

basemetal: Good for her. The thumpers will get over it, they listen to christian music anyway.


Countreh mewzik IS Christian mewzik, you damn Yankee commie hippie!
 
2012-06-11 01:59:55 AM  

DancingElkCondor: What got the Ditzy Chicks in trouble was that they did what they did during the middle of a war.


So when would be a more convenient time to speak out?

DancingElkCondor: Even people not supportive of Bush or the war did not like the attack on our troops,


Funny, I don't remember any attack on our troops, just the President at the time. Or is the President part of "the troops" because he's the Commander-in-Chief?

DancingElkCondor: or the smugness of Natalie Maines (the one who actually made the comment)


Funny, I also don't remember any smugness, just someone who had more balls than the hicks that listened to her music.

DancingElkCondor: Also, the Ditzy Chicks decided to have a big feud with Toby Keith...and that pretty much sealed the Chicks fate. Keith at the time was as popular as the Chicks...and fans of both sided w Keith on that one


Toby Keith is a pandering fool who will do anything to make a buck. One minute his smokin' weed with Willie again, the next he's singing about putting a boot in your ass if you disagree with him. Maines had more balls than him, too.
 
2012-06-11 02:02:26 AM  

DancingElkCondor: What got the Ditzy Chicks in trouble was that they did what they did during the middle of a war.


That's when people usually speak out against war.
 
2012-06-11 02:07:36 AM  

Mentat: Given where she came from, this is pretty gutsy.


Considering Tulsa has one of the largest per-capita gay populations in America, and has had an active gay community since at least the late 80's/early 90's, it's not surprising to see someone from the suburbs with those views.

ontariolightning: once taylor swift offers her support for gay marriage the rest of the country world will come around
just don't expect toby keith to be okay with it

that guy is a raging asshole


Toby Keith being trapped in the closet is biggest open secret in the state.
 
2012-06-11 02:15:27 AM  

skeeterjennings: Mentat: Given where she came from, this is pretty gutsy.

Considering Tulsa has one of the largest per-capita gay populations in America, and has had an active gay community since at least the late 80's/early 90's, it's not surprising to see someone from the suburbs with those views.


We beg your pardon for not being more familiar with Tulsa's demographics, but Mentat's point remains. Even if Tulsa is a shining beacon for diversity, Ms. Underwood works in an industry that has a reputation for being homophobic. Perhaps this reputation is undeserved, but she's speaking out on a hot-button topic knowing full well it's more likely to cost her fans than bring new ones into the fold. I think that's gutsy.

You couldn't pay me enough to sit through one of her albums* but I applaud her for speaking out, and for doing so in such a simple, sincere way.

*Seriously, is Jesus Take the Wheel the most ridiculous song ever? If I get into an accident can I just tell the cops "well, I started to slide so I told Jesus to take the wheel"?
 
2012-06-11 02:17:58 AM  
1. Dixie Chicks said what they said 10 days before the Iraq war.
2. They said it in London.
3. They continued to make shiatty little political remarks afterwards.
4. If it's fine to try to blacklist Limbaugh when he says something incredibly ignorant, stop your biatchin if it goes contrary to your beliefs.
5. Know your audience.
 
2012-06-11 02:18:09 AM  

No Such Agency: People burned Dixie Chicks CD's outside their churches after they spoke their politics publicly. I expect an immediate, similar response by at least somebody. The toothless angry impotent Southerner crowd will eventually be left with only their Prussian Blue albums to play over and over again.


Prussian Blue are now pot smoking liberals. They'll soon have nothing but their old stack of scratched Johnny Rebel 45s and frequent masturbation to keep them occupied.
 
2012-06-11 02:24:37 AM  

Nerdhurter: If it's fine to try to blacklist Limbaugh when he says something incredibly ignorant


You can have different views on different issues, but Limbaugh is another level of ignorance and filth. People can boycott whatever they want but nothing the Dixie Chicks have ever said can even compare to the decades of hack shock jock garbage Rush has done for his whole attention whoring career.
 
2012-06-11 02:28:11 AM  

Nerdhurter: 4. If it's fine to try to blacklist Limbaugh when he says something incredibly ignorant, stop your biatchin if it goes contrary to your beliefs.


If you don't like what Natalie Maines said, and decide to boycott the Dixie Chicks, that's a bit vindictive to me but perfectly within your rights. You can call the radio station and say "please don't play the Dixie Chicks" and refuse to buy Dixie Chicks CDs. Same with Rush. If he says something you don't like, you can call his advertisers and complain. I would just turn the station, but hey, that's just me.

Only it didn't end there. The Dixie Chicks got death threats. Natalie Maines' home was vandalized. Her father - a combat veteran - received hate mail. Those are not the actions of sane people, and they're not acceptable responses no matter what Natalie Maines said or where she said it.
 
2012-06-11 02:28:34 AM  

Nerdhurter: 4. If it's fine to try to blacklist Limbaugh when he says something incredibly ignorant, stop your biatchin if it goes contrary to your beliefs.


Maines simply stated that she was ashamed to be from the same state as Bush. That hardly rises to the level of hateful vitriol Rush spews on a daily basis.

False equivalency is false.
 
2012-06-11 02:29:47 AM  

TheJoe03: Nerdhurter: If it's fine to try to blacklist Limbaugh when he says something incredibly ignorant

You can have different views on different issues, but Limbaugh is another level of ignorance and filth. People can boycott whatever they want but nothing the Dixie Chicks have ever said can even compare to the decades of hack shock jock garbage Rush has done for his whole attention whoring career.


I agree he's a dumb shiat, so, when do we start the Bill Maher boycott?
 
2012-06-11 02:33:24 AM  

Nerdhurter: when do we start the Bill Maher boycott?


Nobody's stopping you. Oh wait, you're a Rightie. You want someone else to do it.
 
2012-06-11 02:34:10 AM  

IlGreven: DancingElkCondor: What got the Ditzy Chicks in trouble was that they did what they did during the middle of a war.

So when would be a more convenient time to speak out?

DancingElkCondor: Even people not supportive of Bush or the war did not like the attack on our troops,

Funny, I don't remember any attack on our troops, just the President at the time. Or is the President part of "the troops" because he's the Commander-in-Chief?


You bring up another good point. Where is all the "support your president" attitude for the commander in chief from our current military like they were during the Bush reign? They're both Christians. Oh yeah, he has a "D" by his name instead of an "R". Farking hypocrites.
 
2012-06-11 02:41:33 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Nerdhurter: 4. If it's fine to try to blacklist Limbaugh when he says something incredibly ignorant, stop your biatchin if it goes contrary to your beliefs.

If you don't like what Natalie Maines said, and decide to boycott the Dixie Chicks, that's a bit vindictive to me but perfectly within your rights. You can call the radio station and say "please don't play the Dixie Chicks" and refuse to buy Dixie Chicks CDs. Same with Rush. If he says something you don't like, you can call his advertisers and complain. I would just turn the station, but hey, that's just me.

Only it didn't end there. The Dixie Chicks got death threats. Natalie Maines' home was vandalized. Her father - a combat veteran - received hate mail. Those are not the actions of sane people, and they're not acceptable responses no matter what Natalie Maines said or where she said it.


I'm sure Limbaugh never received a death threat.

The Why Not Guy: Nerdhurter: when do we start the Bill Maher boycott?

Nobody's stopping you. Oh wait, you're a Rightie. You want someone else to do it.


I don't even know what that means, could you explain the bold portion of your comment please?
 
2012-06-11 02:42:16 AM  

DancingElkCondor: I don't think Carrie Underwood will get the blow back like the Ditzy Chicks did.

What got the Ditzy Chicks in trouble was that they did what they did during the middle of a war. Even people not supportive of Bush or the war did not like the attack on our troops, or the smugness of Natalie Maines (the one who actually made the comment)

Also, the Ditzy Chicks decided to have a big feud with Toby Keith...and that pretty much sealed the Chicks fate. Keith at the time was as popular as the Chicks...and fans of both sided w Keith on that one


You signed on to Fark this week... for this? "Ditzy Chicks"? Really? I am embarrassed for you.
 
2012-06-11 02:42:38 AM  
tomorrows reaction:

the independent is a british paper.. omgz carrie admits support for gay marriage
on a british paper and not an american one! shun her!!
 
2012-06-11 02:44:26 AM  

skeeterjennings:

Toby Keith being trapped in the closet is biggest open secret in the state.



Thought that was R Kelly..
 
2012-06-11 02:53:31 AM  

Nerdhurter: I don't even know what that means, could you explain the bold portion of your comment please?


Gladly. You asked when we start the Bill Maher boycott. If you want one, start one. Nobody's stopping you. And now that I think about it, Bill Maher isn't a very good example for you to bring up of someone who is not held accountable for their words. He lost his program - Politically Incorrect - because of controversial comments.
 
2012-06-11 02:58:06 AM  

Riche: As for the gay marriage votes this November :

[i181.photobucket.com image 333x500]

Human rights shouldn't be something that's up for a vote.


My only response to the multiple ballot measures, both for and against gay marriage is my favorite Koshism: "The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
 
2012-06-11 03:00:13 AM  

Nerdhurter: I'm sure Limbaugh never received a death threat.


So what? Death threats are not an acceptable response to any public figure - left, right or whatever - making a political statement. "They did it too!" is no defense. Whoever made (or continues to make) threats against Rush's safety is flat out wrong, just like whoever did the same against Natalie Maines or her father was flat out wrong.

Good lord, the fact that I have to explain that amazes me.
 
2012-06-11 03:00:24 AM  
At this point in time, there is no aspect of society that can be even so much as touched by politics in any way, shape or form and not end up getting smeared by it, even if they did nothing to contribute to the involvement.

For example, to keep with country music, earlier this year Taylor Swift- who pretty much goes out of her way to be as apolitical as possible- was to be presented the Nickelodeon Kids Choice 'Big Help Award' for a particularly large round of philanthropy, with donations to Nashville flood relief and Joplin tornado relief efforts specially noted.

The award just so happened to be presented by Michelle Obama.

Cue Taylor's Facebook wall being loaded down with fans saying things like 'I'm sorry' and 'Don't worry, I still like you'. A couple people actually demanded that Taylor either refuse the award or demand that it be presented to her by someone else.

That's how easy it is these days to get political shiat all over you.
 
2012-06-11 03:05:08 AM  

Gosling: That's how easy it is these days to get political shiat all over you.


The most upsetting part of that story is that Taylor will no doubt write a song about it.
 
2012-06-11 03:10:55 AM  
I'm already on a Bill Maher boycott, guess what, I'm on a Rush Limbaugh boycott also. I'm against anyone who can't discuss politics without insults and a extreme bias. I'm a moderate libertarian, but I was raised and am surrounded by conservatives. I just have to sit back and laugh at all the holier than thou liberals on fark and elsewhere who would gladly see Limbaugh strung up, yet let the world know how much they would just love to hate fark Sarah Palin/Michelle Malkin/S.E. Cupp. Conservatives don't hold a monopoly on hateful speech, you know that, whether you're in denial or are just attempting to score political points matters not it's counter productive and makes you look ridiculous.
 
2012-06-11 03:14:09 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Nerdhurter: I'm sure Limbaugh never received a death threat.

So what? Death threats are not an acceptable response to any public figure - left, right or whatever - making a political statement. "They did it too!" is no defense. Whoever made (or continues to make) threats against Rush's safety is flat out wrong, just like whoever did the same against Natalie Maines or her father was flat out wrong.

Good lord, the fact that I have to explain that amazes me.


You're the one who brought up death threats originally slick, not I, nice patronizing tone by the way.
 
2012-06-11 03:16:37 AM  

Nerdhurter: I'm already on a Bill Maher boycott


Then why ask us when it starts?

I'm against anyone who can't discuss politics without insults

I just have to sit back and laugh at all the holier than thou liberals


Got it. Insults are bad unless you're insulting Liberals.

Conservatives don't hold a monopoly on hateful speech, you know that, whether you're in denial or are just attempting to score political points matters not it's counter productive and makes you look ridiculous.

I don't think I've ever claimed Conservatives hold a monopoly on hateful speech. If that's how you interpreted my comments, you interpreted them incorrectly.
 
2012-06-11 03:18:54 AM  

Nerdhurter: nice patronizing tone by the way.


I apologize if my tone upset you.
 
2012-06-11 03:24:38 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Nerdhurter: I'm already on a Bill Maher boycott

Then why ask us when it starts?


Stop, you can recognize a rhetorical question.

The Why Not Guy: I don't think I've ever claimed Conservatives hold a monopoly on hateful speech. If that's how you interpreted my comments, you interpreted them incorrectly.


Well then why even type:

The Why Not Guy: Only it didn't end there. The Dixie Chicks got death threats. Natalie Maines' home was vandalized. Her father - a combat veteran - received hate mail. Those are not the actions of sane people, and they're not acceptable responses no matter what Natalie Maines said or where she said it.

 
2012-06-11 03:29:22 AM  

Nerdhurter: Well then why even type...


Because I think those things are unacceptable responses to a political comment by any public figure, left or right. They go far beyond a simple boycott.
 
2012-06-11 03:32:09 AM  

Nerdhurter: I'm already on a Bill Maher boycott, guess what, I'm on a Rush Limbaugh boycott also. I'm against anyone who can't discuss politics without insults and a extreme bias. I'm a moderate libertarian, but I was raised and am surrounded by conservatives. I just have to sit back and laugh at all the holier than thou liberals on fark and elsewhere who would gladly see Limbaugh strung up, yet let the world know how much they would just love to hate fark Sarah Palin/Michelle Malkin/S.E. Cupp. Conservatives don't hold a monopoly on hateful speech, you know that, whether you're in denial or are just attempting to score political points matters not it's counter productive and makes you look ridiculous.


Boo farkin hoo, it ain't our fault that Americans find Limbaugh more disgusting than Maher. It also helps that advertisers have nothing to do with HBO, so all you can do is boycott HBO. Go for it but don't be mad that other people just don't care enough to join you. Also, what did what you just say have to do with anything, you are the one that compared the Dixie Chicks to Limbaugh and now you'r talking about Maher.
 
2012-06-11 03:33:28 AM  
Gordon Bennett:
No Such Agency: People burned Dixie Chicks CD's outside their churches after they spoke their politics publicly. I expect an immediate, similar response by at least somebody. The toothless angry impotent Southerner crowd will eventually be left with only their Prussian Blue albums to play over and over again.

Prussian Blue are now pot smoking liberals. They'll soon have nothing but their old stack of scratched Johnny Rebel 45s and frequent masturbation to keep them occupied.


Well I'll be damned. That's a pretty interesting and sad tale. They're not exactly living the high life now... And I don't get the impression their change of heart includes a full understanding of the harm they were part of (and their mother still is). But it's a start, they are still young.
 
2012-06-11 03:35:00 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Nerdhurter: Well then why even type...

Because I think those things are unacceptable responses to a political comment by any public figure, left or right. They go far beyond a simple boycott.


Well. Holy shiat, we all agree. How anyone can think otherwise boggles the mind.
 
2012-06-11 03:52:08 AM  

Nerdhurter: I'm already on a Bill Maher boycott, guess what, I'm on a Rush Limbaugh boycott also. I'm against anyone who can't discuss politics without insults and a extreme bias.


Umm... that's not a boycott, that's a personal choice. For it to be a boycott, you'd have to have had interest in listening to them at some some time in the past. They would have suddenly said things that you didn't agree with, and to punish them, you'd cease listening to them, thus damaging their product or audience shares somehow.

Never liking them, or even that genre of entertainment, that's not a boycott, that's just you not liking them. If you were never going to listen to them in the first place, you're not taking away anything from them.

"I hate sci fi movies, so I refuse to see Prometheus!"

"Whoa, dude, do you have something against Ridley Scott, or the actors, or the production company?"

"Nope, I just never liked Sci fi. Wouldn't watch it ever."
 
2012-06-11 03:52:56 AM  

GAT_00: Mentat: Given where she came from, this is pretty gutsy.

Kinda sucks hockey season is over. Getting booed at a Preds game could have given a reference point to how much this pissed people off.

For those who don't know, her husband is Preds forward Mike Fisher.


Mike Fisher, who kept his mouth shut when his agent was busy tweeting anti-gay stuff left and right even though much of the hockey world condemned said agent.
 
2012-06-11 04:30:17 AM  

limboslam: Oh for crap's sake, fellow non-liberals! Get the hell over this asinine obsession with being afraid or pissed or whatever about a couple of gals or a couple of guys that want to go down to the local courthouse and let it be made official that they dig eachother as much as we Heteroes are able. Sheesh.


The problem isn't the number of people who oppose gay marriage. It's the number of people that just don't give a shiat about an issue that doesn't affect them. If you can convince those folks to go the polls in favor of, it would likely Pass more often than not. However, the current crop of lgbtbbqrsvp activists come off as too militant and not likable.

What I've found most interesting is the vocal rejection of blacks who were part of the civil rights movement in regards to gay rights. Those guys are not down with the buttsecks.
 
2012-06-11 04:42:07 AM  
Dixie Chicks were fuc
 
2012-06-11 05:08:10 AM  
Considering she is a supporter of PETA and...even worse...HSUS, I could care less what the vapid twat has to say about anything.

/conservative
//for gay equality
 
2012-06-11 05:25:32 AM  

jaybeezey: What I've found most interesting is the vocal rejection of blacks who were part of the civil rights movement in regards to gay rights. Those guys are not down with the buttsecks.


Yeah, it's sad, but there's good news for those folks. Hey, you don't have to be "down with the buttsecks" to support equality! I'm pretty sure that a magical buttsecks fairy doesn't come and rape you. I mean, my pretty damned white skin hasn't turned any darker because I fully embrace racial equality. Those people are just spitting on their own legacy. It's simply proof that they weren't truly interested in equal rights for all, just an "I got mine!" bastardization of the concept.
 
2012-06-11 05:25:50 AM  
Who. Farking. Cares.
 
2012-06-11 05:28:26 AM  

Burr: Considering she is a supporter of PETA and...even worse...HSUS, I could care less what the vapid twat has to say about anything.

/conservative
//for gay equality


Uhhh, did I miss the whack-job memo on the Humane Society?
 
2012-06-11 06:11:51 AM  

Nerdhurter: I'm already on a Bill Maher boycott, guess what, I'm on a Rush Limbaugh boycott also. I'm against anyone who can't discuss politics without insults and a extreme bias. I'm a moderate libertarian, but I was raised and am surrounded by conservatives. I just have to sit back and laugh at all the holier than thou liberals on fark and elsewhere who would gladly see Limbaugh strung up, yet let the world know how much they would just love to hate fark Sarah Palin/Michelle Malkin/S.E. Cupp. Conservatives don't hold a monopoly on hateful speech, you know that, whether you're in denial or are just attempting to score political points matters not it's counter productive and makes you look ridiculous.


Nobody is on a Bill Maher boycott. Bill Maher does not have any sponsors.
He's on HBO until they decide his ratings don't justify the expense.
 
2012-06-11 06:11:54 AM  

GAT_00: Mentat: Given where she came from, this is pretty gutsy.

Kinda sucks hockey season is over. Getting booed at a Preds game could have given a reference point to how much this pissed people off.

For those who don't know, her husband is Preds forward Mike Fisher.


You're at least a day early for that unless you meant AHL.

Of course, if they were against gay marriage. It would make the You Can Play project extremely awkward for Nashville. There would have been no comment by her at all if they were in the Final unless you wanted the see the first player to be killed by hockey fans.

/can't stand country music
//or American Idol
 
2012-06-11 06:17:25 AM  
vrax:
jaybeezey: What I've found most interesting is the vocal rejection of blacks who were part of the civil rights movement in regards to gay rights. Those guys are not down with the buttsecks.

Yeah, it's sad, but there's good news for those folks. Hey, you don't have to be "down with the buttsecks" to support equality!


But a lot of why people are against it IS a visceral fear of "the buttsecks". I think it's because the idea of a man being penetrated "like a woman" makes conservative men fearful and angry, especially the ones who get a bit of a woody when they think about it. The Bible is just their excuse.
 
2012-06-11 06:39:10 AM  

TomD9938: I agree with President Obama, that this issue is one for individual states to decide as they see fit.


No, it's not. But that's pretty much all he was able to say.
 
2012-06-11 06:44:03 AM  
She said, however, that her liberal attitude towards same-sex marriage comes because of her Christian values,

Which means she has none.
 
2012-06-11 06:46:52 AM  

tony41454: She said, however, that her liberal attitude towards same-sex marriage comes because of her Christian values,

Which means she has none.


Not being an oppressive dickcheese is a Christian value.
 
2012-06-11 07:02:04 AM  

vrax: Uhhh, did I miss the whack-job memo on the Humane Society?


No, you didn't, but don't feel bad, it is one of the reasons the HSUS sucks

"Humane Society" vs "Humane Society of the United States"

/not the best website, but it gets the point across
 
2012-06-11 07:09:24 AM  
FTFA

Gay marriage will be the subject of several ballot measures in November's election and is also at the centre of two high-profile legal cases. Mr Obama's Republican rival, Mitt Romney, is opposed to extending gay rights.

Because we've solved all the other issues in this country, right?
 
2012-06-11 07:13:16 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Prussian Blue are now pot smoking liberals. They'll soon have nothing but their old stack of scratched Johnny Rebel 45s and frequent masturbation to keep them occupied.


I still love hearing about their story. I love how all of their mother's careful planning and brainwashing just feel apart when the girls finally got out on their own. It truly shows that hatred like that is learned, you're not born that way and there is still hope to change.
 
2012-06-11 07:16:52 AM  

aspAddict: FTFA

Gay marriage will be the subject of several ballot measures in November's election and is also at the centre of two high-profile legal cases. Mr Obama's Republican rival, Mitt Romney, is opposed to extending gay rights.

Because we've solved all the other issues in this country, right?


No, because it's the cause of all the other problems. Once teh gheys are put down and kept down, the markets will improve, terrorists will stop attacking us, Democrats will stop running for office and all will be right with the world. Or something.
 
2012-06-11 07:24:05 AM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: Really? There's nothing more important going on?

it's how republicans focus on jobs. by stripping rights from a group of americans.


How can you strip what they never had?
 
2012-06-11 07:35:07 AM  

ontariolightning: once taylor swift offers her support for gay marriage the rest of the country world will come around
just don't expect toby keith to be okay with it

that guy is a raging asshole


Is this supposed to be a joke or did you miss this article?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/01/toby-keith-weighs-in-on-g_n_ 9 90404.html
 
2012-06-11 07:53:47 AM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: Really? There's nothing more important going on?

it's how republicans focus on jobs. by stripping rights from a group of americans.


No but Obama is focusing on jobs by saying "look how rich Romney is!!!!" And for some people this is a big deal but most of us don't give a shiat.

Although Subby this is no where near what Natalie did, its not even.in the same ballpark.
 
2012-06-11 07:55:10 AM  
I thought this comment from the article said it all:

stannley

Just lost me as a fan. We already all have equal rights--no one gets to marry whoever they love. I can't marry someone already married, can't marry my son or dad or a child. We have boundaries in our society for the good of society--and marriage should be between a man and a woman, according to God's (and nature's) design. How self-indulgent to assume that there are no moral boundaries--that all things are gray and everyone should do whatever feels good to them, despite what is best for society in general.
Christians are called on to love, first and foremost. And truly loving my gay friends is wanting what is best for them. Being in defiance of a divine creator who does get to judge doesn't sound like something I would encourage someone I love to do.
 
2012-06-11 08:04:28 AM  
I'm impressed that the dixie chicks are still getting shiat on by the same people that have spent the last 4 years talking about how it is their constitutional right to spit on the current president if they choose.
 
2012-06-11 08:06:10 AM  
She caved to her hairdresser.

\jk
 
2012-06-11 08:27:32 AM  

tony41454: I thought this comment from the article said it all:

stannley

Just lost me as a fan. We already all have equal rights--no one gets to marry whoever they love. I can't marry someone already married, can't marry my son or dad or a child. We have boundaries in our society for the good of society--and marriage should be between a man and a woman, according to God's (and nature's) design. How self-indulgent to assume that there are no moral boundaries--that all things are gray and everyone should do whatever feels good to them, despite what is best for society in general.
Christians are called on to love, first and foremost. And truly loving my gay friends is wanting what is best for them. Being in defiance of a divine creator who does get to judge doesn't sound like something I would encourage someone I love to do.


Here's a refresher course on God's design as far as marriage is concern. Note that it's not even close to what the fundies keep spewing.

livinglifewithoutanet.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-11 08:29:27 AM  

tony41454: Just lost me as a fan. We already all have equal rights--no one gets to marry whoever they love. I can't marry someone already married, can't marry my son or dad or a child.


Ah, Conservatives. Bless their hearts.
 
2012-06-11 08:29:51 AM  
Here's a bigger, easier to read image.

lh3.ggpht.com
 
2012-06-11 08:56:44 AM  
Fark I am disappoint.

i181.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-11 08:59:26 AM  
I can understand her support of this issue. I mean my wife is a huge Carrie Underwood fan so I have ended up watching a few of her specials and tv appearances. And based on what I know about hollywood there is no way she can go on stage looking like she does, especially with respect to hair, make-up, wardrobe and choreography without the help of at least a few gays.
 
2012-06-11 09:25:07 AM  
Or maybe, unlike many Conservatives, she simply considers gays to be human beings.
 
2012-06-11 09:32:39 AM  

The Why Not Guy: skeeterjennings: Mentat: Given where she came from, this is pretty gutsy.

Considering Tulsa has one of the largest per-capita gay populations in America, and has had an active gay community since at least the late 80's/early 90's, it's not surprising to see someone from the suburbs with those views.

We beg your pardon for not being more familiar with Tulsa's demographics, but Mentat's point remains. Even if Tulsa is a shining beacon for diversity, Ms. Underwood works in an industry that has a reputation for being homophobic. Perhaps this reputation is undeserved, but she's speaking out on a hot-button topic knowing full well it's more likely to cost her fans than bring new ones into the fold. I think that's gutsy.

You couldn't pay me enough to sit through one of her albums* but I applaud her for speaking out, and for doing so in such a simple, sincere way.

*Seriously, is Jesus Take the Wheel the most ridiculous song ever? If I get into an accident can I just tell the cops "well, I started to slide so I told Jesus to take the wheel"?


To be fair, she's from Checotah (about an hour south of Tulsa) and lived in Tahlequah (about an hour east) to go to college. Her upbringing might be less "Tulsa" and more "podunk Oklahoma".
 
2012-06-11 09:34:19 AM  
Dick Cheney supports gay marriage.
"Conservatives" haven't exactly given him the Dixie Chicks treatment.

Gay marriage largely breaks over generational lines, controlling for almost every other variable.

So you'll see higher support for it among younger blacks, younger evangelicals, younger Republicans, even though in all three of those groups acceptance overall may be lower.
 
2012-06-11 09:34:49 AM  
Not a fan of Carrie Underwood's music, but I think its awesome that she supports gay marriage. Who you marry is a basic human right. I mean, really... why would any sane person even slightly care who someone else marries? Live and let live, or do the world a favor and step out in front of a speeding Amtrak.
 
2012-06-11 09:50:46 AM  
That's awesome! Kudos to her to having an inclusive interpretation of Christianity.
 
2012-06-11 09:59:04 AM  

tony41454: I thought this comment from the article said it all:

stannley

Just lost me as a fan. We already all have equal rights--no one gets to marry whoever they love. I can't marry someone already married, can't marry my son or dad or a child. We have boundaries in our society for the good of society--and marriage should be between a man and a woman, according to God's (and nature's) design. How self-indulgent to assume that there are no moral boundaries--that all things are gray and everyone should do whatever feels good to them, despite what is best for society in general.
Christians are called on to love, first and foremost. And truly loving my gay friends is wanting what is best for them. Being in defiance of a divine creator who does get to judge doesn't sound like something I would encourage someone I love to do.


So, please -- explain to me how, in the GOVERNMENTAL context, a legal contract between two consenting adults is defiant against the 'devine creator'? If you are going to reject the LEGAL contract end of 'marriage' (and, referring to the legal end as such is really a misnomer. It's a civil union), then what other legal contracts in accordance with 'God's Law' are you going to reject? I mean, basically, you are saying that any legal regulations regarding the consuming of shellfish are in definance with biblical teachings, since the Bible says not to do that. Are you going to admonish anyone wearing legally purchased and manufactured mixed-fiber clothing? That's a non-no according to God as well.

The fact of the matter is, those who are all panty-wadded about gay marriage are muddling the legal end and the religious end: And church and state are still separated, last time I checked. The law, frankly, SHOULD allow two consenting adults to enter into a civil union contract together. If you're church, or any church, decides that their own version of the spaghetti monster doesn't like it, then they are free to get all Judgey Mcjudgerson on anyone they want, and keep whatever flavor of exclusion they want in their own diety realm.

But how can you, honestly, justify denying anyone the legal right to enter into a joint civil contract with another legally aged-consenting adult? Or is it just way easier to justify prejudice when you cloak it in God talk?
 
2012-06-11 10:02:05 AM  

skeeterjennings: Considering Tulsa has one of the largest per-capita gay populations in America, and has had an active gay community since at least the late 80's/early 90's, it's not surprising to see someone from the suburbs with those views.


Checotah is a blink-and-you'll-miss-it town on I-40 that's pretty typical of small-town red state Oklahoma. And for all of Tulsa's supposed progressiveness, I'd remind you that every county in Oklahoma went for McCain in the last election and that Tulsa is the home of James Inhofe who famously declared that no one in his family would ever be gay.
 
2012-06-11 10:14:05 AM  

Mentat: skeeterjennings: Considering Tulsa has one of the largest per-capita gay populations in America, and has had an active gay community since at least the late 80's/early 90's, it's not surprising to see someone from the suburbs with those views.

Checotah is a blink-and-you'll-miss-it town on I-40 that's pretty typical of small-town red state Oklahoma. And for all of Tulsa's supposed progressiveness, I'd remind you that every county in Oklahoma went for McCain in the last election and that Tulsa is the home of James Inhofe who famously declared that no one in his family would ever be gay.


Red state USA flyover country is one ad-lib noun change away from backwoods Afghanistan.

___(noun)___ is an over religious oppressive society that encourages group think regarding traditional values over individualism.

As Sheryl Crow would say, isn't that ironic?
 
2012-06-11 10:18:02 AM  
Since the bans have been passed in over 30 states now. it really isn't going against popular opinion.
 
2012-06-11 10:50:54 AM  
Does that mean she'll pose naked on the cover of Entertainment Weekly, take 5 years to make her next album, then shave her head and look like the bastard child of Matt Damon and Sinead O'Connor?
 
2012-06-11 11:09:13 AM  
117 comments and ONE picture of Carrie Underwood? I am disappoint.
 
2012-06-11 11:34:31 AM  

ChrisDe: 117 comments and ONE picture of Carrie Underwood? I am disappoint.


Here you go:

por-img.cimcontent.net
 
2012-06-11 11:36:21 AM  
Full disclosure: I want to bone her. My wife is ok with it. We saw her in Pittsburgh a couple of years ago 3rd row. She has a great arse, at least when viewed up her skirt for a concert's length of time.
 
2012-06-11 11:54:09 AM  
No Such Agency


People burned Dixie Chicks CD's outside their churches after they spoke their politics publicly. I expect an immediate, similar response by at least somebody. The toothless angry impotent Southerner crowd will eventually be left with only their Prussian Blue albums to play over and over again.

They will also have their votes. Which count as much as yours (provide you are eligible to vote in US elections)

Good for her, voice your opinion, you have that right.

People have a right to punish you for your views or to promote you for your views.

Natalie works at the Dairy Queen on West Mockingbird avenue in Arlington now. No one really listening to her opinion any more.
 
2012-06-11 12:02:59 PM  
i.imgur.com

Underwood, her name is Underwood

i.imgur.com

Ah yes, Underwood. She's been excommunicated for six months. Nobody will buy her records now.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-11 12:29:22 PM  
The Why Not Guy:
You couldn't pay me enough to sit through one of her albums* but I applaud her for speaking out, and for doing so in such a simple, sincere way.

*Seriously, is Jesus Take the Wheel the most ridiculous song ever? If I get into an accident can I just tell the cops "well, I started to slide so I told Jesus to take the wheel"?




FWIW, the video for "Jesus Take the Wheel" was allegorical and symbolic and stuff. I must admit I was disappointed by the lack of flailing arms and DWF.
 
2012-06-11 12:54:02 PM  

ontariolightning: Marrying a Canadian didn't hurt Carrie but this will.
Her and Mike Fisher are very religious people.. but it sounds like they actually pay attention to the love and don't criticize part of religion. Good on them. More Christians need to be like them.


I want to suggest that this is probably Mike Fisher's doing. He's a fundie too, but he's a Canadian fundie.

Canadian fundies are different than American fundies. They are very practical people, very much live and let live, and they don't lobby to pass legislation validating their faith. They just keep it to themselves. Undoubtedly, this has rubbed off on Carrie.

At least, that's my theory.
 
2012-06-11 01:07:51 PM  
I am surprised they have gotten over her pro illegal-immigrant driving song "Jesús Take the Wheel".
 
2012-06-11 01:09:54 PM  

GAT_00: Oh man the tolerant, loving, so much in the majority Christians are just going to savage her, which sucks because I have respect for anyone who can manage to sing Alone properly. Plus that one song about her farking up the BF's car is pretty funny.


This almost redeems her for her support of criminal vandalism.
 
2012-06-11 01:26:26 PM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7155493/77414561#c77414561" target="_blank">PsyLord</a>:</b> <i>GAT_00: Oh man the tolerant, loving, so much in the majority Christians are just going to savage her, which sucks because I have respect for anyone who can manage to sing Alone properly. Plus that one song about her farking up the BF's car is pretty funny.

This almost redeems her for her support of criminal vandalism.</i>

That song bugs me so much, especially in its wide-spread acceptance. An angry girl singing about completely smashing her boyfriend's (note, not husband, boyfriend) expensive truck is "brave" and "edgy" but if the genders were reversed the guy wouldn't be edgy or brave, he'd be incarcerated.
 
2012-06-11 02:02:05 PM  
zarberg:
That song bugs me so much, especially in its wide-spread acceptance. An angry girl singing about completely smashing her boyfriend's (note, not husband, boyfriend) expensive truck is "brave" and "edgy" but if the genders were reversed the guy wouldn't be edgy or brave, he'd be incarcerated.

I agree that a double standard is stupid (like the drivelous song), but the fact is that the majority of partner directed violence in this society is male on female and that is the filter we would see these things through, right or wrong.

Buffalo77:
Natalie works at the Dairy Queen on West Mockingbird avenue in Arlington now. No one really listening to her opinion any more.

You wish... I'm sure they're still wild lefty millionaires.
 
2012-06-11 02:07:45 PM  

zarberg: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7155493/77414561#c77414561" target="_blank">PsyLord</a>:</b> <i>GAT_00: Oh man the tolerant, loving, so much in the majority Christians are just going to savage her, which sucks because I have respect for anyone who can manage to sing Alone properly. Plus that one song about her farking up the BF's car is pretty funny.

This almost redeems her for her support of criminal vandalism.</i>

That song bugs me so much, especially in its wide-spread acceptance. An angry girl singing about completely smashing her boyfriend's (note, not husband, boyfriend) expensive truck is "brave" and "edgy" but if the genders were reversed the guy wouldn't be edgy or brave, he'd be incarcerated.


this
 
2012-06-11 02:16:34 PM  

zarberg: That song bugs me so much, especially in its wide-spread acceptance. An angry girl singing about completely smashing her boyfriend's (note, not husband, boyfriend) expensive truck is "brave" and "edgy" but if the genders were reversed the guy wouldn't be edgy or brave, he'd be incarcerated.


Some guy wrote a sequel to that song, where the boyfriend retaliated by farking all her friends.
 
2012-06-11 02:21:52 PM  

GAT_00: Kinda sucks hockey season is over. Getting booed at a Preds game could have given a reference point to how much this pissed people off.

For those who don't know, her husband is Preds forward Mike Fisher.


This shouldn't get her booed at a Preds game. Preds fans will freely mock players for on-ice stuff, but booing a family member for non-hockey personal opinions expressed entirely outside the contxt of the game is a whole different thing.

And Carrie Underwood's opinion was expressed entirely as her personal view, and not in the form of an apology on behalf of anybody else. She didn't claim to be "on the good side", or in any way make fun of anybody else's beliefs. This does not compare to the Dixie Chicks at all.
 
2012-06-11 02:40:04 PM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: Really? There's nothing more important going on?

it's how republicans focus on jobs. by stripping rights from a group of americans.


Are straight men allowed to marry men?

Oh, so you're saying it is an English grammar and vocabulary issue, not a rights issue?
 
2012-06-11 03:04:27 PM  

Buffalo77: No Such Agency


People burned Dixie Chicks CD's outside their churches after they spoke their politics publicly. I expect an immediate, similar response by at least somebody. The toothless angry impotent Southerner crowd will eventually be left with only their Prussian Blue albums to play over and over again.

They will also have their votes. Which count as much as yours (provide you are eligible to vote in US elections)

Good for her, voice your opinion, you have that right.

People have a right to punish you for your views or to promote you for your views.

Natalie works at the Dairy Queen on West Mockingbird avenue in Arlington now. No one really listening to her opinion any more.


Actually, her album right after the Bush fiasco swept the Grammys and she had a sold-out concert tour.
 
2012-06-11 03:48:49 PM  

Buffalo77: Natalie works at the Dairy Queen on West Mockingbird avenue in Arlington now. No one really listening to her opinion any more.


stoli n coke: Actually, her album right after the Bush fiasco swept the Grammys and she had a sold-out concert tour.


Fair enough, but still:

Buffalo77: Natalie works at the Dairy Queen on West Mockingbird avenue in Arlington now. No one really listening to her opinion any more.

 
2012-06-11 04:03:02 PM  

Richelieu: Fair enough, but still:

Buffalo77: Natalie works at the Dairy Queen on West Mockingbird avenue in Arlington now. No one really listening to her opinion any more.


It's really important to you Conservatives that you destroy anyone who speaks out in a way you disagree with, isn't it? It's not enough that you say "I think Natalie Maines was wrong to criticize the President." You actually fantasize about her being stripped of her wealth and fame, reduced to working a minimum wage job where nobody knows who she is let alone listens to her opinion.

Natalie Maines has an estimated net worth of $40 million. Keep boycotting, and maybe in a couple hundred years she'll run out of money and your fantasy will come true.
 
2012-06-11 04:25:27 PM  
The Why Not Guy

"It's really important to you Conservatives that you destroy anyone who speaks out in a way you disagree with, isn't it? It's not enough that you say "I think Natalie Maines was wrong to criticize the President." You actually fantasize about her being stripped of her wealth and fame, reduced to working a minimum wage job where nobody knows who she is let alone listens to her opinion. Natalie Maines has an estimated net worth of $40 million. Keep boycotting, and maybe in a couple hundred years she'll run out of money and your fantasy will come true."

Conservatives = their own worst enemy.
 
2012-06-11 06:12:32 PM  
Wow, it's been a long time since anybody called me a conservative. I don't give a rat's arse whether she criticized the president. She did so in a fairly stupid way, but she certainly doesn't care whether I approve, since I was never a fan anyway.

I don't have to fantasize about stripping her fame. It's mostly gone anyway. That's not due to a conservative conspiracy, though; it's what happens when you critically fail to understand your own fan base.

Keep boycotting? Is there a current boycott? I'm boycotting leaded gasoline, too, and with about as much actual planning. With far more actual relevance.

The point remains: Nobody cares what Natalie Maine's opinion on foreign policy is.

The other point is: Carrie Underwood never indicated anybody should care what her opinion on gay marriage is - she was asked, and she answered. If Maines had shown as much humility, she would still be touring. But her opinion on foreign policy would still be irrelevant.
 
2012-06-11 06:38:54 PM  

Richelieu: But her opinion on foreign policy would still be irrelevant.


Something doesn't add up here.

If someone expresses an opinion that I consider relevant, I ignore it and move on. I don't organize boycotts, send death threats, vandalize their property or write harassing letters to their father. I shrug my shoulders and change the channel or turn the page. If Natalie Maine's opinion on foreign policy is irrelevant (and I agree that it is, to the same degree as any other citizen's opinion is irrelevant) don't you think the reaction from the Right was a bit much?

The point remains: Nobody cares what Natalie Maine's opinion on foreign policy is.

If nobody cares, why did she get death threats? Why was her home vandalized? Why did her father receive hate mail?
 
2012-06-11 06:39:53 PM  

The Why Not Guy: If someone expresses an opinion that I consider relevant


Should read "If someone expresses an opinion that I consider irrelevant"
 
2012-06-11 06:53:12 PM  
Where is Ja?
 
2012-06-11 07:24:34 PM  

stoli n coke: Actually, her album right after the Bush fiasco swept the Grammys and she had a sold-out concert tour.


I still think it was done to try and boost their career back up even though they album was tanking in relation to their earlier albums, it wasnt a horrible album but they should have been more subtle or at the least addressed their own fans about it, the biggest thing I hear country fans biatch about was the fact they did it in another country. Ironically one of the countries who went to war with the USA.

Also the tour wasnt as successful as you think, they had to cut it back and play smaller venues in areas where they would sell out 3 days in their largest venues before, so it hit them hard, its the old life lesson, dont shiat where you eat.
 
2012-06-11 07:51:55 PM  

steamingpile: stoli n coke: Actually, her album right after the Bush fiasco swept the Grammys and she had a sold-out concert tour.

I still think it was done to try and boost their career back up even though they album was tanking in relation to their earlier albums, it wasnt a horrible album but they should have been more subtle or at the least addressed their own fans about it, the biggest thing I hear country fans biatch about was the fact they did it in another country. Ironically one of the countries who went to war with the USA.


It did address the fans.

The album didn't sell as many as the old ones due to no radio support. However, Rick Rubin, having dealt with Johnny Cash for what's arguably the second golden age of his career, was used to it and still marketed it in a way where it still went platinum.

Country radio sucks, and has for a very long time.
 
2012-06-11 08:36:20 PM  
I've never heard her sing, (that I know of) and really have no interest in what she says.
However I heard her interview on Q last month. She's educated, intelligent, and from what I heard in the interview, I would suggest that she probably doesn't give a shiat what conservatives or anyone else thinks of her opinions.

The fact that she's college educated, and smart would probably explain why she supports gay marriage.
 
2012-06-11 10:41:46 PM  

theurge14: As Sheryl Crow would say, isn't that ironic?


Dammit, stop getting that wrong. It was Fiona Apple.
 
2012-06-11 10:54:33 PM  

IlGreven: theurge14: As Sheryl Crow would say, isn't that ironic?

Dammit, stop getting that wrong. It was Fiona Apple.


I love her song Smooth Criminal.
 
2012-06-11 11:01:33 PM  

IlGreven: theurge14: As Sheryl Crow would say, isn't that ironic?

Dammit, stop getting that wrong. It was Fiona Apple.


Sillies. The name you're floundering for is Meredith Brooks.
 
2012-06-11 11:27:20 PM  

Pandora's Litterbox: IlGreven: theurge14: As Sheryl Crow would say, isn't that ironic?

Dammit, stop getting that wrong. It was Fiona Apple.

Sillies. The name you're floundering for is Meredith Brooks.


biatch.


/LOVE that song!
 
2012-06-11 11:31:50 PM  

tony41454: I thought this comment from the article said it all:

stannley

Just lost me as a fan. We already all have equal rights--no one gets to marry whoever they love. I can't marry someone already married, can't marry my son or dad or a child. We have boundaries in our society for the good of society--and marriage should be between a man and a woman, according to God's (and nature's) design. How self-indulgent to assume that there are no moral boundaries--that all things are gray and everyone should do whatever feels good to them, despite what is best for society in general.
Christians are called on to love, first and foremost. And truly loving my gay friends is wanting what is best for them. Being in defiance of a divine creator who does get to judge doesn't sound like something I would encourage someone I love to do.


eat shiat.
 
2012-06-12 12:27:21 AM  

The Why Not Guy: If nobody cares, why did she get death threats? Why was her home vandalized? Why did her father receive hate mail?


Couldn't tell you. I was in the desert at the time. Must've been those conservatives you were talking about earlier.
 
2012-06-12 01:25:02 AM  

Richelieu: Couldn't tell you. I was in the desert at the time.


Then it sounds to me like somebody cared. Maybe it wasn't you, but it sure as hell wasn't "nobody". Look, you didn't ask for my advice but I'll offer it anyway. Absolute statements that you pull out of your ass are very easy to prove wrong.
 
2012-06-12 08:02:38 AM  

zarberg: That song bugs me so much, especially in its wide-spread acceptance. An angry girl singing about completely smashing her boyfriend's (note, not husband, boyfriend) expensive truck is "brave" and "edgy" but if the genders were reversed the guy wouldn't be edgy or brave, he'd be incarcerated.


It needs one more verse.
 
2012-06-12 10:47:47 AM  
I'm from Texas and listen to country. I can tell you right now the who country community will let out an overwhelming "Meh". You hear songs about country, God, love and many other things. Us country folk care about more important things. A few people might not buy her album, but others will pick up the slack.
 
2012-06-12 06:28:59 PM  

BigTexas: I'm from Texas and listen to country. I can tell you right now the who country community will let out an overwhelming "Meh". You hear songs about country, God, love and many other things. Us country folk care about more important things. A few people might not buy her album, but others will pick up the slack.


agreed, country folks are very much live and let live and what do on your own property is your business.
 
2012-06-13 10:45:23 AM  
Good for her. You can be a Christian and be tolerant. I'm pretty damn conservative and I feel the same way about this.

HEY GAYS! Welcome to the fray.

/Marriage is a bitter pill
//maybe it's just me who's bitter
 
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