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2012-06-11 03:29:40 AM  

m00: do not take me seriously: m00: So, how exactly did Romney "win" the Republican nomination, considering that he seems to have zero supporters?

By dint of being least crazy of those republicans crazy enough to think they can unseat B-rock.

Well, what I don't get is this. While I disagree with Mr. Obama, he certainly has supporters. There are people who believe he has done well enough to warrant a second term. I disagree with them, but fine. Such is life in a Republic.

But Romney doesn't seem to have any supporters, even amongst Republicans. Do you know anyone, personally that supports Romney? I don't. The media says he won the primary (which technically isn't true until the convention in Tampa, but okay). But like... how? Who voted for him? And... why? Because TV told them he had already won?

I just don't get why anyone other than a small cabal of corporatist establishment would think he would be a positive presence in the White House. And I can't seem to find anyone to ask.


From what I could tell, given the minimal amount of attention I payed to that process, Romney did receive votes in various primaries by presenting himself as an alternative to the batsmeg crazy derp-brigade that was Bachman, Santorum, Gingrich, et al. Plus, he spent several metric fark-tons of money in the primaries, and money does buy votes.
 
2012-06-11 03:31:58 AM  

bestie1: Why should the working class be the only ones who suffer? Why should union teachers, cops, fireman and bureaucrats be protected while everyone else struggles. Oh yes no one can do their jobs because they do it for magic fairy dust and unicorn farts. I know this because the bureaucrats who approve their own benefits and the politicians who receive huge contributions from their unions tell me. I must not ever question this or else I am worse than Hitler etc etc.



So basically your point is, some people are unemployed and in financial trouble, so you want government workers to suffer too? Especially essential jobs like police, fire, and teachers? Sounds like a great way to run a city. Instead of raising taxes on those that have greatly profited from the past 30 years, EVERYONE ELSE should suffer too!!
 
2012-06-11 03:38:30 AM  
Sure you love cops on election day but the other 1,460 days in between they are all Nazi's stopping peace loving protestors from caving in windows.

What just happened in WI that really pisses off the Unions? The government got out of the business of collecting dues and a huge chunk of the members said "fark it why am I paying for this". That is the issue and the Unions won't win on it.

I know the narrative is supposed to be about middle class kulaks who are enslaving the proletariat with their "wages" and "profits"'; but when people are out a job they tend to start to question the protected classes rather then the people who could actually give them a job.
 
2012-06-11 03:40:13 AM  

intelligent comment below: bestie1: Why should the working class be the only ones who suffer? Why should union teachers, cops, fireman and bureaucrats be protected while everyone else struggles. Oh yes no one can do their jobs because they do it for magic fairy dust and unicorn farts. I know this because the bureaucrats who approve their own benefits and the politicians who receive huge contributions from their unions tell me. I must not ever question this or else I am worse than Hitler etc etc.


So basically your point is, some people are unemployed and in financial trouble, so you want government workers to suffer too? Especially essential jobs like police, fire, and teachers? Sounds like a great way to run a city. Instead of raising taxes on those that have greatly profited from the past 30 years, EVERYONE ELSE should suffer too!!


Everyone SHOULD suffer. If people don't suffer in life, how are we expect to sell them the vaporware that is paradise in the afterlife? If people aren't depending on admittance to paradise after they die, how do you get them to obey their betters?

/If you want to keep control of the populous using a slave religion, you need to keep people enslaved.
 
2012-06-11 03:44:50 AM  
I think it's safe to say that a Mitt presidency will be nothing more than a "Loot & Scoot" for him and his connections. The man obviously had no problem destroying companies for profit, why not go for whole sectors of the US economy. The Supreme court is already up the conservatives butt, and congress will no doubt be split for awhile. He'll have no fear of impeachment, nor of imprisonment. Half his money is already in the Caymans. It will be pigs at the trough, the state of the country be damned.
 
2012-06-11 03:45:41 AM  

hubiestubert: wildcardjack: To break it down another way...

[lh6.googleusercontent.com image 640x487]

Which costs us more?


You are MISSING THE POINT!

There's at least $100k per year EVAPORATING per classroom. Where the hell is all that money going? Yes, some of that money could be going to after school type programs, but my numbers (from a 2009 Census Bureau report) are for Elementary through HS. Your numbers are including post-secondary education.

Too many administrators and too much pointless teacher retraining. It's inefficient. You have just made an argument in favor of throwing money at a system that's full of black holes.
 
2012-06-11 03:46:38 AM  

intelligent comment below: bestie1: Why should the working class be the only ones who suffer? Why should union teachers, cops, fireman and bureaucrats be protected while everyone else struggles. Oh yes no one can do their jobs because they do it for magic fairy dust and unicorn farts. I know this because the bureaucrats who approve their own benefits and the politicians who receive huge contributions from their unions tell me. I must not ever question this or else I am worse than Hitler etc etc.


So basically your point is, some people are unemployed and in financial trouble, so you want government workers to suffer too? Especially essential jobs like police, fire, and teachers? Sounds like a great way to run a city. Instead of raising taxes on those that have greatly profited from the past 30 years, EVERYONE ELSE should suffer too!!


Why are the rich bourgeoisie all industrialists? Why aren't movie stars and sports stars who make millions vilified too? Could it be because they line the DNC coffers just like the public sector unions do? It really seems to come down to who your patron is doesn't it?

When times are tough everyone has to tighten their belt. The fat is long gone.
 
2012-06-11 03:48:46 AM  

bestie1: Sure you love cops on election day but the other 1,460 days in between they are all Nazi's stopping peace loving protestors from caving in windows.

What just happened in WI that really pisses off the Unions? The government got out of the business of collecting dues and a huge chunk of the members said "fark it why am I paying for this". That is the issue and the Unions won't win on it.

I know the narrative is supposed to be about middle class kulaks who are enslaving the proletariat with their "wages" and "profits"'; but when people are out a job they tend to start to question the protected classes rather then the people who could actually give them a job.


If by "Kulak" you mean "small business owner", no, they're not the ones working to enslave the middle class. Small Business Owners are not the Corpocracy who are doing everything they can to enrich themselves, at the expense of the masses (because once the masses are downtrodden enough, they can be exploited more efficiently for larger profits!)
 
2012-06-11 03:52:28 AM  

do not take me seriously: bestie1: Sure you love cops on election day but the other 1,460 days in between they are all Nazi's stopping peace loving protestors from caving in windows.

What just happened in WI that really pisses off the Unions? The government got out of the business of collecting dues and a huge chunk of the members said "fark it why am I paying for this". That is the issue and the Unions won't win on it.

I know the narrative is supposed to be about middle class kulaks who are enslaving the proletariat with their "wages" and "profits"'; but when people are out a job they tend to start to question the protected classes rather then the people who could actually give them a job.

If by "Kulak" you mean "small business owner", no, they're not the ones working to enslave the middle class. Small Business Owners are not the Corpocracy who are doing everything they can to enrich themselves, at the expense of the masses (because once the masses are downtrodden enough, they can be exploited more efficiently for larger profits!)



Really and what evil space alien benefits from evil corporate profits?
 
2012-06-11 03:53:49 AM  

bestie1: do not take me seriously: bestie1: Sure you love cops on election day but the other 1,460 days in between they are all Nazi's stopping peace loving protestors from caving in windows.

What just happened in WI that really pisses off the Unions? The government got out of the business of collecting dues and a huge chunk of the members said "fark it why am I paying for this". That is the issue and the Unions won't win on it.

I know the narrative is supposed to be about middle class kulaks who are enslaving the proletariat with their "wages" and "profits"'; but when people are out a job they tend to start to question the protected classes rather then the people who could actually give them a job.

If by "Kulak" you mean "small business owner", no, they're not the ones working to enslave the middle class. Small Business Owners are not the Corpocracy who are doing everything they can to enrich themselves, at the expense of the masses (because once the masses are downtrodden enough, they can be exploited more efficiently for larger profits!)


Really and what evil space alien benefits from evil corporate profits?


It fills me with rage.
 
2012-06-11 03:53:51 AM  

TheZorker: Well, why not?

Illinois is trying, and failing, to do so.

So says the Trib

In the case of the firefighters, for instance, we agree with Ferguson that dismissing the firefighters for lying, cheating and stealing is in the highest public interest.

charge them with felony theft.
bring the charges to the DA and PUSH HARD.
why are you farking around with this in pretend land?
that is the problem in the first place.

shudder
unions solved a large number of problems a number of decades ago.
but
that was long ago
all we see now is union protection of crimes and insanity
 
2012-06-11 03:54:40 AM  

namatad: TheZorker: Well, why not?

Illinois is trying, and failing, to do so.

So says the Trib

In the case of the firefighters, for instance, we agree with Ferguson that dismissing the firefighters for lying, cheating and stealing is in the highest public interest.
charge them with felony theft.
bring the charges to the DA and PUSH HARD.
why are you farking around with this in pretend land?
that is the problem in the first place.

shudder
unions solved a large number of problems a number of decades ago.
but
that was long ago
all we see now is union protection of crimes and insanity


Yes, unions suck because you say so. fark off.
 
2012-06-11 03:55:15 AM  

hubiestubert: wildcardjack: To break it down another way...

[lh6.googleusercontent.com image 640x487]

Which costs us more?


WTF
it costs 100k to keep the kid in juvi?
 
2012-06-11 03:56:58 AM  

wildcardjack: hubiestubert: wildcardjack: To break it down another way...

[lh6.googleusercontent.com image 640x487]

Which costs us more?

You are MISSING THE POINT!

There's at least $100k per year EVAPORATING per classroom. Where the hell is all that money going? Yes, some of that money could be going to after school type programs, but my numbers (from a 2009 Census Bureau report) are for Elementary through HS. Your numbers are including post-secondary education.

Too many administrators and too much pointless teacher retraining. It's inefficient. You have just made an argument in favor of throwing money at a system that's full of black holes.


You seem to be operating on the assumption that all money budgeted for education is spent within classrooms, apparently believing that those classrooms themselves are free, and maintained for free, and heated and cooled for free, and cleaned for free. Oh and school lunches, free. Buses, free (gasoline for buses, free too). Oh, and all the people who aren't directly teaching students, the people who keep the system running, administrators, secretaries, lunch ladies, bus drivers, they all work for free too.

This isn't to say there isn't waste ( I don't think kindergarteners need iPads, for example) but the obvious disingenuity with which you are approaching the topic is precluding, rather than encouraging, any honest discussion on the topic, because when people have to waste time debunking bullshiat, they are less able to have meaningful conversation.

Unless that's what you're going for, in which case, well done!
 
2012-06-11 03:59:21 AM  

Sabyen91: namatad: TheZorker: Well, why not?

Illinois is trying, and failing, to do so.

So says the Trib

In the case of the firefighters, for instance, we agree with Ferguson that dismissing the firefighters for lying, cheating and stealing is in the highest public interest.
charge them with felony theft.
bring the charges to the DA and PUSH HARD.
why are you farking around with this in pretend land?
that is the problem in the first place.

shudder
unions solved a large number of problems a number of decades ago.
but
that was long ago
all we see now is union protection of crimes and insanity

Yes, unions suck because you say so. fark off.


nope
that is not what I am saying

Teachers' union helped keep teachers from being fired for political or personal reasons. Admin didnt like someone, fired.

But for decades, those same unions have prevented the city from firing bad teachers.
Bad teachers just moved around.

Unions, like everything else in the universe, have bad parts and good parts.
Should we get rid of them? no
Should we get better contracts? hell yes

FFS, the idea of a guild was that the guild masters would police their own. That THEY would ensure that you could hire quality craftsman. If the police and teachers unions got rid of the bad apples, had minimum standards, it would be impossible to complain about them.

Bad apples spoil the whole barrel.
 
2012-06-11 03:59:45 AM  

do not take me seriously: wildcardjack: hubiestubert: wildcardjack: To break it down another way...

[lh6.googleusercontent.com image 640x487]

Which costs us more?

You are MISSING THE POINT!

There's at least $100k per year EVAPORATING per classroom. Where the hell is all that money going? Yes, some of that money could be going to after school type programs, but my numbers (from a 2009 Census Bureau report) are for Elementary through HS. Your numbers are including post-secondary education.

Too many administrators and too much pointless teacher retraining. It's inefficient. You have just made an argument in favor of throwing money at a system that's full of black holes.

You seem to be operating on the assumption that all money budgeted for education is spent within classrooms, apparently believing that those classrooms themselves are free, and maintained for free, and heated and cooled for free, and cleaned for free. Oh and school lunches, free. Buses, free (gasoline for buses, free too). Oh, and all the people who aren't directly teaching students, the people who keep the system running, administrators, secretaries, lunch ladies, bus drivers, they all work for free too.

This isn't to say there isn't waste ( I don't think kindergarteners need iPads, for example) but the obvious disingenuity with which you are approaching the topic is precluding, rather than encouraging, any honest discussion on the topic, because when people have to waste time debunking bullshiat, they are less able to have meaningful conversation.

Unless that's what you're going for, in which case, well done!


I think your penis is tiny. It fills me with rage.
 
2012-06-11 04:00:51 AM  
Well, private police don't have to follow all those rules about warrants and such. They can also get by with rougher interrogation and the city can't be sued when things go wrong. It's a win-win situation for these guys.
 
2012-06-11 04:01:15 AM  

namatad: Sabyen91: namatad: TheZorker: Well, why not?

Illinois is trying, and failing, to do so.

So says the Trib

In the case of the firefighters, for instance, we agree with Ferguson that dismissing the firefighters for lying, cheating and stealing is in the highest public interest.
charge them with felony theft.
bring the charges to the DA and PUSH HARD.
why are you farking around with this in pretend land?
that is the problem in the first place.

shudder
unions solved a large number of problems a number of decades ago.
but
that was long ago
all we see now is union protection of crimes and insanity

Yes, unions suck because you say so. fark off.

nope
that is not what I am saying

Teachers' union helped keep teachers from being fired for political or personal reasons. Admin didnt like someone, fired.

But for decades, those same unions have prevented the city from firing bad teachers.
Bad teachers just moved around.

Unions, like everything else in the universe, have bad parts and good parts.
Should we get rid of them? no
Should we get better contracts? hell yes

FFS, the idea of a guild was that the guild masters would police their own. That THEY would ensure that you could hire quality craftsman. If the police and teachers unions got rid of the bad apples, had minimum standards, it would be impossible to complain about them.

Bad apples spoil the whole barrel.


You are full of shiat. Ohhhh, the teacher's are bad, I know.
 
2012-06-11 04:01:43 AM  

bestie1: do not take me seriously: bestie1: Sure you love cops on election day but the other 1,460 days in between they are all Nazi's stopping peace loving protestors from caving in windows.

What just happened in WI that really pisses off the Unions? The government got out of the business of collecting dues and a huge chunk of the members said "fark it why am I paying for this". That is the issue and the Unions won't win on it.

I know the narrative is supposed to be about middle class kulaks who are enslaving the proletariat with their "wages" and "profits"'; but when people are out a job they tend to start to question the protected classes rather then the people who could actually give them a job.

If by "Kulak" you mean "small business owner", no, they're not the ones working to enslave the middle class. Small Business Owners are not the Corpocracy who are doing everything they can to enrich themselves, at the expense of the masses (because once the masses are downtrodden enough, they can be exploited more efficiently for larger profits!)


Really and what evil space alien benefits from evil corporate profits?


Any mention of profit and I immediately assume Ferengi, but they're not really evil (at least not after their first few appearances)

Actually though, I don't understand your response. I had never seen the term kulak before, so I looked it up and got the definition "A peasant in Russia wealthy enough to own a farm and hire labor" so I assumed you were using it as a term for Small Business Owner.

If you were using the term differently, or were referring to a different definition, please be more clear.
 
2012-06-11 04:04:36 AM  

Sabyen91: do not take me seriously: wildcardjack: hubiestubert: wildcardjack: To break it down another way...

[lh6.googleusercontent.com image 640x487]

Which costs us more?

You are MISSING THE POINT!

There's at least $100k per year EVAPORATING per classroom. Where the hell is all that money going? Yes, some of that money could be going to after school type programs, but my numbers (from a 2009 Census Bureau report) are for Elementary through HS. Your numbers are including post-secondary education.

Too many administrators and too much pointless teacher retraining. It's inefficient. You have just made an argument in favor of throwing money at a system that's full of black holes.

You seem to be operating on the assumption that all money budgeted for education is spent within classrooms, apparently believing that those classrooms themselves are free, and maintained for free, and heated and cooled for free, and cleaned for free. Oh and school lunches, free. Buses, free (gasoline for buses, free too). Oh, and all the people who aren't directly teaching students, the people who keep the system running, administrators, secretaries, lunch ladies, bus drivers, they all work for free too.

This isn't to say there isn't waste ( I don't think kindergarteners need iPads, for example) but the obvious disingenuity with which you are approaching the topic is precluding, rather than encouraging, any honest discussion on the topic, because when people have to waste time debunking bullshiat, they are less able to have meaningful conversation.

Unless that's what you're going for, in which case, well done!

I think your penis is tiny. It fills me with rage.


Why does the tinyness of my penis fill you with rage? You're not the one I'm failing to bring to orgasm with it.

Or do you mean that my tiny penis itself is filling you with rage? That might explain the tingling sensation I've had the past few minutes- all that rage flowing out of you, through my tiny tiny penis, and into you.
 
2012-06-11 04:06:02 AM  

do not take me seriously: Sabyen91:

I think your penis is tiny. It fills me with rage.

Why does the tinyness of my penis fill you with rage? You're not the one I'm failing to bring to orgasm with it.

Or do you mean that my tiny penis itself is filling you with rage? That might explain the tingling sensation I've had the past few minutes- all that rage flowing out of you me, through my tiny tiny penis, and into you.

 
2012-06-11 04:31:14 AM  

gaslight: So....who will be doing the teaching, who will be doing the law enforcement and who will be putting out the fires?


Romney already answered this: The private sector. (He said) you should get services you're able to personally afford, and nothing more.

On the bright side, a Romney presidency would make expenses like child care and health insurance seem like a drop in the bucket when compared to having to pay for your own police force, fire protection, and education.
 
2012-06-11 04:31:45 AM  

Sabyen91: You are full of shiat. Ohhhh, the teacher's are bad, I know.


bye bye
 
2012-06-11 04:38:23 AM  
As if we need any more evidence that the Republicans just simply need to dispense with a convention this year and turn the lights out on the way out the door.

Oh wait. Half the country wants to vote for this idiot, I guess, or something...
 
2012-06-11 04:42:33 AM  

eurotrader: There is an excessive amount of police officers in the US.


The US has abot 266 police officers per 100,000 people, which is well below the global mean of about 300 police per 100,000.

The number of sworn peace officers has more than tripled in the past twenty years to over 1.2 million while the population has only grown by about 24%.

According to this, you had 706,886 police officers in 2009, a reduction of more than 1500 from the previous year.

Police are needed but with the hiring binge the number of people that are officers that have no business carrying a gun and badge has exploded.

This is where I ask for a citation.
 
2012-06-11 04:52:34 AM  

whidbey: As if we need any more evidence that the Republicans just simply need to dispense with a convention this year and turn the lights out on the way out the door.

Oh wait. Half the country wants to vote for this idiot, I guess, or something...


Nowhere close to half the country wants to vote for this idiot, but as it's a two party system, it is in the interest of the "news" media to portray it as a close race so we'll keep watching, and clicking links, and making them money.
 
2012-06-11 04:53:28 AM  

Dansker: eurotrader: There is an excessive amount of police officers in the US.

The US has abot 266 police officers per 100,000 people, which is well below the global mean of about 300 police per 100,000.

The number of sworn peace officers has more than tripled in the past twenty years to over 1.2 million while the population has only grown by about 24%.

According to this, you had 706,886 police officers in 2009, a reduction of more than 1500 from the previous year.

Police are needed but with the hiring binge the number of people that are officers that have no business carrying a gun and badge has exploded.

This is where I ask for a citation.


Your point is interesting but your link doesn't work. Also, this is Fark, the irrational police hate is incredible.
 
2012-06-11 05:01:14 AM  

change1211:
Your point is interesting but your link doesn't work.


Try this copypasta: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?query=BOOKMARK_DS-0515 38_QID_22AF4F5E_UID_-3F171EB0&layout=TIME,C,X,0;GEO,L,Y,0;UNIT,L,Z,0;I NDICATORS,C,Z,1;&zSelection=DS-051538UNIT,NBR;DS-051538INDICATORS,OBS_ FLAG;&rankName1=INDICATORS_1_2_-1_2&rankName2=UNIT_1_2_-1_2&rankName3= TIME_1_1_0_0&rankName4=GEO_1_2_0_1&sortR=DESC_7&ppcRK=FIRST&ppcSO
 
2012-06-11 05:02:04 AM  

intelligent comment below: And I'm just explaining why it is horribly wrong. So don't bring up something that is wrong.


I didn't bring it up. Someone else did. I just tried to clarify where the supposed numbers came from.

intelligent comment below: Don't want people responding to what you write? Start your own blog and disable comments.


I don't mind people commenting on what I say. I just prefer they understand it before commenting.
 
2012-06-11 05:07:50 AM  

namatad: all we see now is union protection of crimes and insanity


Shouldn't this say all YOU see is union protection of crimes and insanity?

I see good unions and bad unions. Good union members and bad union members.

It appears your confirmation bias guides your argument.
 
2012-06-11 05:14:14 AM  

I'm proudly voting for Romney in this upcoming election. Any of you who have a problem with this can kiss my ass. Screwing the working class always yields the most entertaining results, irrespective of era or country, and the GOP has clearly demonstrated their commitment to our entertainment. Guillotines, arson, riots, inflation...I could spend all day listing the reasons why all of this stuff makes for excellent live television. Honestly, has any reality TV show ever come close to the entertainment value of the early 90s LA riots? fark no it hasn't.

cache.boston.com

^^THIS is superior entertainment. As a cable subscriber, I am entitled to at least one big money shot a year, and I'm simply not getting it under an Obama administration. We can do better. The peons need to be pushed to their breaking points and this can only happen under GOP stewardship.

Romney 2012
Poor is a disease

 
2012-06-11 05:26:16 AM  
Optional fire protection is already working out well. This frugal homeowner saved $75 off his taxes:

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/06/tennessee-firefighters-wa t ch-home-burn/
 
2012-06-11 05:26:26 AM  

contrapunctus: I'm proudly voting for Romney in this upcoming election. Any of you who have a problem with this can kiss my ass. Screwing the working class always yields the most entertaining results, irrespective of era or country, and the GOP has clearly demonstrated their commitment to our entertainment. Guillotines, arson, riots, inflation...I could spend all day listing the reasons why all of this stuff makes for excellent live television. Honestly, has any reality TV show ever come close to the entertainment value of the early 90s LA riots? fark no it hasn't.

[cache.boston.com image 640x360]

^^THIS is superior entertainment. As a cable subscriber, I am entitled to at least one big money shot a year, and I'm simply not getting it under an Obama administration. We can do better. The peons need to be pushed to their breaking points and this can only happen under GOP stewardship.

Romney 2012
Poor is a disease


You still pay for television?

Ha!
 
2012-06-11 05:37:59 AM  

bestie1: do not take me seriously: bestie1: Sure you love cops on election day but the other 1,460 days in between they are all Nazi's stopping peace loving protestors from caving in windows.

What just happened in WI that really pisses off the Unions? The government got out of the business of collecting dues and a huge chunk of the members said "fark it why am I paying for this". That is the issue and the Unions won't win on it.

I know the narrative is supposed to be about middle class kulaks who are enslaving the proletariat with their "wages" and "profits"'; but when people are out a job they tend to start to question the protected classes rather then the people who could actually give them a job.

If by "Kulak" you mean "small business owner", no, they're not the ones working to enslave the middle class. Small Business Owners are not the Corpocracy who are doing everything they can to enrich themselves, at the expense of the masses (because once the masses are downtrodden enough, they can be exploited more efficiently for larger profits!)


Really and what evil space alien benefits from evil corporate profits?


So, I'm guessing you're about 19, you just read one of Lenin's speeches for the first time, and you're all hot under the collar about the rights of the proletariat, comrade. Viva Guevara!

I hope that's accurate, because otherwise you're incredibly stupid.

Protip: Nobody will take you seriously if you try to use "kulak" in the 21st century here, Marx.
 
2012-06-11 05:53:16 AM  

hubiestubert: Which costs us more?


I was told there would be no math.
 
2012-06-11 06:01:18 AM  
I understand wanting to get rid of teachers, because they're women and don't deserve a living wage and should be at home anyway. But cops and firefighters?
 
2012-06-11 06:19:07 AM  

serial_crusher: "not hiring more of" == "getting rid of"?


News flash: cops and firefighters retire. You don't replace them, the force shrinks. After layoffs, attrition is second biggest way for corporations to reduce workforce.

Who doesn't know this?
 
2012-06-11 06:42:31 AM  

www.usnews.com

EEEEEEEEEEEEEE**IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CALL PLEASE HANG UP AND TRY AGAIN**EE-EE-EE-EE

 
2012-06-11 06:59:59 AM  

kmmontandon: gaslight: So....who will be doing the teaching, who will be doing the law enforcement and who will be putting out the fires?


Billionaires.

Our Galtian overlords are masters of all trades, and totally have our best interests in mind.


It is true that our Galtian overlords are ubermensch, each singularly capable of achieving any endeavor from sabotaging global industry, to developing the finest metal in world history, to dowsing infernos at steel plants. But they do these things not because they have our best interests in mind. They do these things because they have their own best interests in mind. So long as we're obedient serfs, we're allowed to enjoy the cascade of benefits which flow from their heroic efforts.

Get it straight, bro.
 
2012-06-11 07:12:09 AM  

bugontherug: kmmontandon: gaslight: So....who will be doing the teaching, who will be doing the law enforcement and who will be putting out the fires?


Billionaires.

Our Galtian overlords are masters of all trades, and totally have our best interests in mind.

It is true that our Galtian overlords are ubermensch, each singularly capable of achieving any endeavor from sabotaging global industry, to developing the finest metal in world history, to dowsing infernos at steel plants. But they do these things not because they have our best interests in mind. They do these things because they have their own best interests in mind. So long as we're obedient serfs, we're allowed to enjoy the cascade of benefits which flow from their heroic efforts.

Get it straight, bro.


Too bad there are so many parts of the world willing to provide cheaper serfs than the USA, or else there might be more cascade-basking going on.
 
2012-06-11 07:30:02 AM  
And yet I get chain emails from derpy relatives that say it's Obamas fault that companies like GE are leaving Wisconsin. I guess maybe infrastructure and education level may be important when locating your business?
 
2012-06-11 07:34:38 AM  
I wouldn't be sad to see a lot of cops lose their jobs, but that has nothing to do with union politics.
 
2012-06-11 07:36:35 AM  
In a sick sort of way I want this to happen. A friend is hardcore Republican and his wife a teacher. The schadenfreude will be so delicious when his wife is either laid off or she actually has to compete for her now $10/hour job. Of course, he'll lay blame at the feet of the Democrats.
 
2012-06-11 07:39:10 AM  

do not take me seriously: bugontherug: kmmontandon: gaslight: So....who will be doing the teaching, who will be doing the law enforcement and who will be putting out the fires?


Billionaires.

Our Galtian overlords are masters of all trades, and totally have our best interests in mind.

It is true that our Galtian overlords are ubermensch, each singularly capable of achieving any endeavor from sabotaging global industry, to developing the finest metal in world history, to dowsing infernos at steel plants. But they do these things not because they have our best interests in mind. They do these things because they have their own best interests in mind. So long as we're obedient serfs, we're allowed to enjoy the cascade of benefits which flow from their heroic efforts.

Get it straight, bro.

Too bad there are so many parts of the world willing to provide cheaper serfs than the USA, or else there might be more cascade-basking going on.


You need to take that frown, and turn it upside down! After all:

"What are your masses but mud to be ground underfoot, fuel to be burned for those who deserve it?"
--Ayn Rand, We the Living

The ubermensch do not exist for OUR benefit. We exist for THEIR benefit.
 
2012-06-11 07:47:28 AM  

bugontherug: do not take me seriously: bugontherug: kmmontandon: gaslight: So....who will be doing the teaching, who will be doing the law enforcement and who will be putting out the fires?


Billionaires.

Our Galtian overlords are masters of all trades, and totally have our best interests in mind.

It is true that our Galtian overlords are ubermensch, each singularly capable of achieving any endeavor from sabotaging global industry, to developing the finest metal in world history, to dowsing infernos at steel plants. But they do these things not because they have our best interests in mind. They do these things because they have their own best interests in mind. So long as we're obedient serfs, we're allowed to enjoy the cascade of benefits which flow from their heroic efforts.

Get it straight, bro.

Too bad there are so many parts of the world willing to provide cheaper serfs than the USA, or else there might be more cascade-basking going on.

You need to take that frown, and turn it upside down! After all:

"What are your masses but mud to be ground underfoot, fuel to be burned for those who deserve it?"
--Ayn Rand, We the Living

The ubermensch do not exist for OUR benefit. We exist for THEIR benefit.


Is it true that if one eats the brain, heart, and liver of an ubermensch one becomes an ubermensch?

Is that a trick question, as ubermensch have no hearts?
 
2012-06-11 07:55:23 AM  
Approves.

/Look it up!
 
2012-06-11 07:55:28 AM  

intelligent comment below: Uh huh. And the lowering of crime rates in the 90s had nothing to do with more economic gains for lower classes and more job opportunities? Not to mention the record number of criminals locked in jail for even minor offenses.


Nobody said those weren't contributing factors to lower crime rates in the 90's. They said abortion was also a contributing factor.

And of course it was, because fewer unwanted children meant fewer overwhelmed parents to inflict the sorts of childhood traumas which damage the developing brain, contributing to adult criminality.

Just because empirical reality angers you, doesn't mean you shouldn't acknowledge it. That's a character disorder right there. Probably arising from brain damage sustained in some early childhood trauma.
 
2012-06-11 08:00:06 AM  
No, Romney did not say that, subs. At least not that was quoted in the link.

What he said was much more reasonable. If you want smaller government, which is apparently one of romneys goals, why wouldn't you want fewer
policemen, firemen, and
teachers? You can disagree with his smaller govt goal, and of course other factors can shrink government as well (defense, for instance), but what he said wasnt that outrageous.
 
2012-06-11 08:02:30 AM  

do not take me seriously: bugontherug: do not take me seriously: bugontherug: kmmontandon: gaslight: So....who will be doing the teaching, who will be doing the law enforcement and who will be putting out the fires?


Billionaires.

Our Galtian overlords are masters of all trades, and totally have our best interests in mind.

It is true that our Galtian overlords are ubermensch, each singularly capable of achieving any endeavor from sabotaging global industry, to developing the finest metal in world history, to dowsing infernos at steel plants. But they do these things not because they have our best interests in mind. They do these things because they have their own best interests in mind. So long as we're obedient serfs, we're allowed to enjoy the cascade of benefits which flow from their heroic efforts.

Get it straight, bro.

Too bad there are so many parts of the world willing to provide cheaper serfs than the USA, or else there might be more cascade-basking going on.

You need to take that frown, and turn it upside down! After all:

"What are your masses but mud to be ground underfoot, fuel to be burned for those who deserve it?"
--Ayn Rand, We the Living

The ubermensch do not exist for OUR benefit. We exist for THEIR benefit.

Is it true that if one eats the brain, heart, and liver of an ubermensch one becomes an ubermensch?

Is that a trick question, as ubermensch have no hearts?


Do I read you to insinuate Randian ubermensch are unrealistic? If you had read Atlas Shrugged, you would know they're very realistic. After all:

"I trust that no one will tell me that men such as I write about don't exist. That this book has been written--and published--is my proof that they do."
--Ayn Rand, "About the Author" from the 35th Anniversary Edition of Atlas Shrugged.
 
2012-06-11 08:06:29 AM  

cmb53208: Ken VeryBigLiar: ..

Pewaukee also got "the death penalty" more for their shady characters from top to bottom than arresting white guys with the better part of a case of Spotted Cow in them.

Hmmm, I got some bad info then. Clarification appreciated


There could be some validity to a few of the richer people out here leaned on their alders because they felt 'the wrong people" were getting busted; the GF works for another dept. so they all know someone in another place out there. I worked out there for about six months and even my boss (an Am Fam agent as Republican as they came) cautioned not to even do 28 in a 25.
 
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