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2012-06-10 08:24:14 PM
It burns my ass that a program even exists that gives local police access to military grade hardware. It's bullshiat.

That equipment (weapons) was designed to maim, kill and destroy combat soldiers and equipment of other countries we would go to war with. The citizenry of this country should never be on the receiving end of it.
 
2012-06-10 08:25:36 PM

titwrench: If the inventory has already been done they should have no problem producing the documents. I have back up for everything thing I do just for CYA purposes I would hope the agency that my tax dollars pay for would also be required to have a minimal form of redundancy and accountability also.


True. And also people need to keep in mind that these people are in charge of chain of custody. The fact they can't even do basic inventory makes everything they do suspect and challengeable in court.
 
2012-06-10 08:26:25 PM

GAT_00: Weaver95: CruiserTwelve:
These are police departments we're talking about. Saturday afternoons are not slow.

i'm sure you can find someone who's willing to come in and put in the time to do another inventory. its easy OT, won't take long and hey - its mandatory!

suck it up cupcake and do your inventory.

It can't be that hard either. Let's mentally run this through. Cops have standard equipment they carry at all times. Grab all of that from a checklist when they come in. Walk out to their car and go through the trunk quick. There's got to be a standard list of things in there, another quick checklist. Add anything else. Stop at desks and lockers and do the same. That is at the absolute worst one hour a person, probably closer to 15 minutes. That's a good portion of the inventory. Most of the rest should be organized in a handful of rooms, and so checking everything is relatively easy.

For an entire department, it's grabbing everyone one day when they come in, and a couple of rookies spending a shift in a inventory room.

It can't be that hard unless they are completely incompetent with equipment.


Meh, as long as you (taxpayer) are cool with paying everyone in the department overtime for needless redundancy.
 
2012-06-10 08:27:28 PM

CalamitousCrasher: Benevolent Misanthrope: Wow. How do citizens get in on this surplus program? I'd be willing to pay for a humvee.

You can usually get one of those around the seedier areas of town. Just look for the scantily clad women hanging on street corners. Price is typically negotiable for just a humvee. Or so I have heard....


Last time I tried that, the lady turned out to be a police officer without a sense of humor.

Poor girl probably just needed someone to sex her up good.
 
2012-06-10 08:27:37 PM

Weaver95: I still think that cop shops should NEVER be given mil-spec gear under any circumstances. But i'm weird like that...


They should always get mil spec body armor. Basically only mil spec defensive gear. The offensive gear should be regulated to specific groups of police with high levels of training.
 
2012-06-10 08:28:12 PM

Weaver95: I still think that cop shops should NEVER be given mil-spec gear under any circumstances. But i'm weird like that...


ONLY criminals should be allowed to carry combat ready weaponry. In no way should policemen ever be given the advantage over a criminal...
 
2012-06-10 08:28:33 PM

Silly Jesus: Weaver95: CruiserTwelve: Weaver95: then STFU, redo the inventory and resub the paperwork. what's the problem?

The fact that they have to redo the inventory and resubmit the paperwork.

so you clock some overtime on a slow saturday afternoon until it's done. probably get it done inside of two weekends at most. seriously - it's not difficult. time consuming perhaps...and somewhat annoying...but STFU and do it. then photo copy the paperwork before you send it in this time.

again I ask you - why is this a problem?

Why don't they just do it four times? What's the problem?

How about 18 times? It's just extra work and overtime for no reason, right?


so you inventory one more time, then photocopy it 17 more times and you're STILL done in time to catch a beer at home with the wife and kids....
 
2012-06-10 08:29:12 PM

Silly Jesus: GAT_00: Weaver95: CruiserTwelve:
These are police departments we're talking about. Saturday afternoons are not slow.

i'm sure you can find someone who's willing to come in and put in the time to do another inventory. its easy OT, won't take long and hey - its mandatory!

suck it up cupcake and do your inventory.

It can't be that hard either. Let's mentally run this through. Cops have standard equipment they carry at all times. Grab all of that from a checklist when they come in. Walk out to their car and go through the trunk quick. There's got to be a standard list of things in there, another quick checklist. Add anything else. Stop at desks and lockers and do the same. That is at the absolute worst one hour a person, probably closer to 15 minutes. That's a good portion of the inventory. Most of the rest should be organized in a handful of rooms, and so checking everything is relatively easy.

For an entire department, it's grabbing everyone one day when they come in, and a couple of rookies spending a shift in a inventory room.

It can't be that hard unless they are completely incompetent with equipment.

Meh, as long as you (taxpayer) are cool with paying everyone in the department overtime for needless redundancy.


It's a stimulus program!
 
2012-06-10 08:29:48 PM
I think the biggest problem with the cops coming up with a current inventory is that they lake that old military standby for dealing with inventory shrinkage: the infamous "mess tent fire".

/Or so I hear
 
2012-06-10 08:30:06 PM

gingerjet: CruiserTwelve: I can understand the frustrations of these agencies. Police equipment isn't all stacked up neatly in a warehouse. That stuff is in police cars, at cops' homes, in their lockers, distributed among different district stations and scattered all over. It's difficult at best to have to physically count each item. Their contract with the feds probably requires a bi-annual inventory, and they're likely upset over being required to do an unexpected and time consuming inventory.

Bullshiat. I work in the real world. If I can't provide this information in 3 minutes notice - then I should be fired. Inventory management is not rocket science.

/also - police departments shouldn't be given this type of equipment in the first place


I want to borrow your teleporter. Silly cops keeping various pieces of equipment at home, in the locker room, across town at their sub-station, at the range and in their car etc.
 
2012-06-10 08:30:23 PM

Silly Jesus:
Meh, as long as you (taxpayer) are cool with paying everyone in the department overtime for needless redundancy.


I'd feel a LOT safer knowing that every last milspec weapon on the cops equipment list was verified and accounted for....
 
2012-06-10 08:30:55 PM

dbaggins: given the outrage over what should be pretty mundane accounting work....My money is on some military-grade equipment turned up in a criminal investigation. That investigation turned to the Pentagon to track the source down, and now, shiat is about to hit the fan

so, DOD knows where the stuff is *supposed* to be, and now it's time for a police department to either start a cover-up in earnest, or invite in Internal Affairs.


I guess this would be one investigation that they wouldn't be able to softpedal, put the miscreants on "administrative leave", and roundfile the paper trail?
 
2012-06-10 08:31:01 PM

ha-ha-guy: Weaver95: I still think that cop shops should NEVER be given mil-spec gear under any circumstances. But i'm weird like that...

They should always get mil spec body armor. Basically only mil spec defensive gear. The offensive gear should be regulated to specific groups of police with high levels of training.


You mean like SWAT teams? The same ones that barge into people's homes in the middle of the night and terrorize their families under false pretenses?

Yeah, no.
 
2012-06-10 08:31:49 PM

dbaggins: given the outrage over what should be pretty mundane accounting work....My money is on some military-grade equipment turned up in a criminal investigation. That investigation turned to the Pentagon to track the source down, and now, shiat is about to hit the fan

so, DOD knows where the stuff is *supposed* to be, and now it's time for a police department to either start a cover-up in earnest, or invite in Internal Affairs.


Occam would like a word with you. He's sharpening his razor.
 
2012-06-10 08:32:20 PM
The only part of me that supports this knows that if the police don't get this gear, they're eventually going to spend even more tax money buying something similar anyway.
 
2012-06-10 08:32:45 PM

Silly Jesus: Silly cops keeping various pieces of equipment at home, in the locker room, across town at their sub-station, at the range and in their car etc.


I took the grenade launcher home so the missus and I could have a little Taliban-rape-fantasy role playing.
 
2012-06-10 08:32:53 PM

clowncar on fire: Weaver95: I still think that cop shops should NEVER be given mil-spec gear under any circumstances. But i'm weird like that...

ONLY criminals should be allowed to carry combat ready weaponry. In no way should policemen ever be given the advantage over a criminal...


with their training and organization backing them...the cops ALREADY have an advantage over criminals....but you knew that already.
 
2012-06-10 08:33:05 PM

Silly Jesus: GAT_00: Weaver95: CruiserTwelve:
needless redundancy.


*citation needed
There's obviously someone in DOD who doesn't think its needless.
 
2012-06-10 08:33:06 PM

clowncar on fire: ONLY criminals should be allowed to carry combat ready weaponry. In no way should policemen ever be given the advantage over a criminal...


How many criminals have combat-ready weaponry?
 
2012-06-10 08:33:56 PM
They've misplaced the offog
 
2012-06-10 08:34:39 PM
Speed limit enforced by air.
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2012-06-10 08:34:52 PM

GranoblasticMan: I took the grenade launcher home so the missus and I could have a little Taliban-rape-fantasy role playing.


cdn.randomfunnypicture.com
 
2012-06-10 08:36:58 PM

RibbyK: Wait a minute. Why does the DOD have billions of dollars in excess inventory that it simply "gives" away? Why was this stuff ordered in the first place? What happen to the JIT mantra? Sounds like sloppy procurement to me. The DOD orders too many weapons, then ships them at no cost to local police departments. WTF? Really, WTF?

/Paperwork ain't the problem.


These weren't brand-new items. They were old, outdated ones that the military no longer uses. And according to the article, some of the police departments that received these spiffy toys didn't enter the info into a computer. Instead, they wrote it all down on paper records and apparently didn't bother to make copies before mailing the originals back to DoD. And I'd be willing to bet a good deal of the outrage on the cops' part is that a lot of these toys aren't where they're supposed to be. Sold on Ebay, loaned it to a "buddy", etc.

/Give a cop an Army toy, and he'll want to "play soldier." Which is not the function of a police department.
 
2012-06-10 08:37:30 PM

jmr61: It burns my ass that a program even exists that gives local police access to military grade hardware. It's bullshiat.

That equipment (weapons) was designed to maim, kill and destroy combat soldiers and equipment of other countries we would go to war with. The citizenry of this country should never be on the receiving end of it.


No doubt. Nice work, Congress. Since 9/11, they've rubber stamped every cockamamie domestic security plan they can get their hands on, apparently. It was bad enough before with the WOD. If there is a military threat, use the military; the solution is not to supply unionized, non-UCMJ police departments with military weapons, or arguably military intel, for use on Americans. This is America, right?
 
2012-06-10 08:37:33 PM

Weaver95: I still think that cop shops should NEVER be given mil-spec gear under any circumstances. But i'm weird like that...


I think there should be a few exceptions, but generally I agree. I feel like half the reason we don't allow soldiers to be deployed at home is that their equipment and tactics are so dangerous to bystanders. But if we're gonna go ahead and give Chief Buford the same stuff, what's the point?
 
2012-06-10 08:37:59 PM

Weaver95: Silly Jesus: Weaver95: CruiserTwelve: Weaver95: then STFU, redo the inventory and resub the paperwork. what's the problem?

The fact that they have to redo the inventory and resubmit the paperwork.

so you clock some overtime on a slow saturday afternoon until it's done. probably get it done inside of two weekends at most. seriously - it's not difficult. time consuming perhaps...and somewhat annoying...but STFU and do it. then photo copy the paperwork before you send it in this time.

again I ask you - why is this a problem?

Why don't they just do it four times? What's the problem?

How about 18 times? It's just extra work and overtime for no reason, right?

so you inventory one more time, then photocopy it 17 more times and you're STILL done in time to catch a beer at home with the wife and kids....


Wash your dishes twice tonight. Might as well, right?

I don't understand the line of reasoning that doing something stupid isn't really doing something stupid if it takes little effort.
 
2012-06-10 08:39:36 PM

theorellior: clowncar on fire: ONLY criminals should be allowed to carry combat ready weaponry. In no way should policemen ever be given the advantage over a criminal...

How many criminals have combat-ready weaponry?


What weaponry isn't combat ready besides those that are unloaded/disassembled?
 
2012-06-10 08:41:09 PM

Weaver95: Here's another point to consider - this is MILITARY GRADE weaponry and equipment. the local cops damn well better know where each and every one of those items is at any given point in time. If the Fed calls them up at 4am on a tuesday morning and asks them to track down where 2 specific MILITARY GRADE weapons are located...then the local cops better be able to answer that question within the hour or they should have all their spiffy military toys taken away from them.

you guys wanna play with the big guns then you get to put up with strict inventory control regulations and random spot checks on your armory. don't like it? then don't take the toys off the shelf in the first place.


Since I was an armorer while in the Army, I'm getting a kick out of this.

They should know where EACH AND EVERY one of these things are. Either they have it on hand or they have a hand reciept for whoever has that item. If my commander told me to do an inventory for our whole battalion's sensitive items (rifles, pistols, machine guns, night vision devices, gps and radio fill devices then I did it, and it only took me maybe an hour for over 1800 items. That's because I kept accountability of them. If I put the paperwork in already then I did it again. Yeah it sucked but I ate that bowl of turds with a farkin smile on my face. Either they keep accountability or they don't get military toys. I knew where each and every thing was 24/7/365. If these guys can't, then they are not professional.
 
2012-06-10 08:42:54 PM

CruiserTwelve: These are police departments we're talking about. Saturday afternoons are not slow.


Wednesday Morning then.
 
2012-06-10 08:45:11 PM

kim jong-un: CruiserTwelve: These are police departments we're talking about. Saturday afternoons are not slow.

Wednesday Morning then.


Wednesday is suicide day.
 
2012-06-10 08:46:17 PM

Weaver95: I still think that cop shops should NEVER be given mil-spec gear under any circumstances. But i'm weird like that...


When my brother was on the SWAT team I used to go shooting with him at the police range. The local National Guard would use the range as well sometimes. Usually, any day he and I were there with just his duty weapons we would be better armed than the National Guard. The squad was usually 5 plus an instructor and, had a gunfight broken out, we had them outgunned by a mile. We also had a lot more ammunition and mags.

One day we were joined by an elderly city council member who was a gun collector. He had 2 rules. He had one of anything the police had and everything else was .45. That day, with him there, we had 2 MP5's, 2 fully auto AR-15's, a tommy gun, plus shotguns and handguns. Meanwhile the National Guard had 5 semi-auto M-16s that didn't even have 3 shot burst, let alone fully auto.
 
2012-06-10 08:46:20 PM

jbuist: Weaver95: I still think that cop shops should NEVER be given mil-spec gear under any circumstances. But i'm weird like that...

I'm OK with "mil-spec" because some of that stuff is found in regular goods. Well, my Bushmaster says it's "mil-spec" somewhere in the manual.

But, yes, they should be restricted to Title I weapons and if they want Title II stuff buy it from the same restricted pool that regular citizens have available.


NOOOOOOOOO, all that shiat is ridiculously inflated already without the pigs buying it all up with my money.

It should go more like this:

PIGS: Hey DOD we need moar belt belt fed machine guns plz.

DOD: What the fark is it you think you do for a living again?! Here, take some of these M1 Garands, we only need $350 a piece for them.

PIGS: b-b-but regular people can buy these for that much.

DOD: We know, but we have no use for them anymore, so we'll sell em to ya anyway.
 
2012-06-10 08:46:35 PM

Weaver95: Silly Jesus:
Meh, as long as you (taxpayer) are cool with paying everyone in the department overtime for needless redundancy.

I'd feel a LOT safer knowing that every last milspec weapon on the cops equipment list was verified and accounted for....


Me too. Actually, why not every five minutes? Then I'd feel EXTRA safe. Because, you know, the chance of the doomsday scenarios playing out in your head actually happening are probably pretty close to the odds of me winning the lottery while being struck by lightning on back to back days.

Do you leave your house? Are the police your only boogie man?
 
2012-06-10 08:47:13 PM

Silly Jesus: I don't understand the line of reasoning that doing something stupid isn't really doing something stupid if it takes little effort.


Like taking an inventory of military-grade equipment.
 
2012-06-10 08:51:17 PM
I still think DOD knows gear ended up on the black market. So, time for inventory checks.

and if you send in old paperwork for a current inventory, you spend time in prison.


it fits the reporting, and makes sense.
 
2012-06-10 08:51:57 PM

Unimpressed Man: Silly Jesus: GAT_00: Weaver95: CruiserTwelve:
needless redundancy.

*citation needed
There's obviously someone in DOD who doesn't think its needless.


Well, by god, if someone at DOD thinks it's necessary then who are we to question that?

/needless was probably a bad word choice...
 
2012-06-10 08:52:10 PM

Silly Jesus: Weaver95: Silly Jesus:
Meh, as long as you (taxpayer) are cool with paying everyone in the department overtime for needless redundancy.

I'd feel a LOT safer knowing that every last milspec weapon on the cops equipment list was verified and accounted for....

Me too. Actually, why not every five minutes? Then I'd feel EXTRA safe. Because, you know, the chance of the doomsday scenarios playing out in your head actually happening are probably pretty close to the odds of me winning the lottery while being struck by lightning on back to back days.

Do you leave your house? Are the police your only boogie man?


Since we're going for reductio ad absurdum, your stance must be that the police should never have to file paperwork for anything, right?
 
2012-06-10 08:55:42 PM

Silly Jesus: Weaver95: Silly Jesus:
Meh, as long as you (taxpayer) are cool with paying everyone in the department overtime for needless redundancy.

I'd feel a LOT safer knowing that every last milspec weapon on the cops equipment list was verified and accounted for....

Me too. Actually, why not every five minutes? Then I'd feel EXTRA safe. Because, you know, the chance of the doomsday scenarios playing out in your head actually happening are probably pretty close to the odds of me winning the lottery while being struck by lightning on back to back days.

Do you leave your house? Are the police your only boogie man?


you do realize that you've lost this fight, right? in fact, i'm not even sure what point it is you think you're trying to make...
 
2012-06-10 08:55:48 PM

theorellior: clowncar on fire: ONLY criminals should be allowed to carry combat ready weaponry. In no way should policemen ever be given the advantage over a criminal...

How many criminals have combat-ready weaponry?


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2012-06-10 08:56:00 PM

Weaver95: CruiserTwelve: Did subby read the article he linked to? The only issue the cops seem to have with the DOD is that they're being asked to submit paperwork that they've already submitted.

then STFU, redo the inventory and resub the paperwork. what's the problem?


See, if you get it wrong once, you can readily declare it was a an administrative error and you'll look into it.
If you redo the inventory, and falsely report it again, you're pretty well nailed.
 
2012-06-10 08:58:56 PM

Silly Jesus: Weaver95: Silly Jesus:
Meh, as long as you (taxpayer) are cool with paying everyone in the department overtime for needless redundancy.

I'd feel a LOT safer knowing that every last milspec weapon on the cops equipment list was verified and accounted for....

Me too. Actually, why not every five minutes? Then I'd feel EXTRA safe. Because, you know, the chance of the doomsday scenarios playing out in your head actually happening are probably pretty close to the odds of me winning the lottery while being struck by lightning on back to back days.

Do you leave your house? Are the police your only boogie man?


Well, to be fair, the only armed men that have ever extorted money from me under the threat of kidnapping and forced labor were cops.
 
2012-06-10 08:59:15 PM

CJHardin: Since I was an armorer while in the Army, I'm getting a kick out of this.

They should know where EACH AND EVERY one of these things are. Either they have it on hand or they have a hand reciept for whoever has that item. If my commander told me to do an inventory for our whole battalion's sensitive items (rifles, pistols, machine guns, night vision devices, gps and radio fill devices then I did it, and it only took me maybe an hour for over 1800 items. That's because I kept accountability of them. If I put the paperwork in already then I did it again. Yeah it sucked but I ate that bowl of turds with a farkin smile on my face. Either they keep accountability or they don't get military toys. I knew where each and every thing was 24/7/365. If these guys can't, then they are not professional.


exactly. every infantry unit I know of can tell you where each and every last item on their equipment list is, what its been doing for the past several weeks and where it's stored when not used. if the cops can't keep inventory control standards up to spec, then they should have each and every military grade taken away from them and barred from every applying for more such toys in the future.
 
2012-06-10 08:59:36 PM

Krieghund: Last time I tried that, the lady turned out to be a police officer without a sense of humor.


What are the odds?
 
2012-06-10 08:59:48 PM

CJHardin: Weaver95: Here's another point to consider - this is MILITARY GRADE weaponry and equipment. the local cops damn well better know where each and every one of those items is at any given point in time. If the Fed calls them up at 4am on a tuesday morning and asks them to track down where 2 specific MILITARY GRADE weapons are located...then the local cops better be able to answer that question within the hour or they should have all their spiffy military toys taken away from them.

you guys wanna play with the big guns then you get to put up with strict inventory control regulations and random spot checks on your armory. don't like it? then don't take the toys off the shelf in the first place.

Since I was an armorer while in the Army, I'm getting a kick out of this.

They should know where EACH AND EVERY one of these things are. Either they have it on hand or they have a hand reciept for whoever has that item. If my commander told me to do an inventory for our whole battalion's sensitive items (rifles, pistols, machine guns, night vision devices, gps and radio fill devices then I did it, and it only took me maybe an hour for over 1800 items. That's because I kept accountability of them. If I put the paperwork in already then I did it again. Yeah it sucked but I ate that bowl of turds with a farkin smile on my face. Either they keep accountability or they don't get military toys. I knew where each and every thing was 24/7/365. If these guys can't, then they are not professional.


I was under the impression that they wanted the person doing the inventory to actually have eyes on every item.

Would have taken you slightly more than an hour to do that, wouldn't it?
 
2012-06-10 09:01:08 PM

CJHardin: Since I was an armorer while in the Army, I'm getting a kick out of this.

They should know where EACH AND EVERY one of these things are. Either they have it on hand or they have a hand reciept for whoever has that item. If my commander told me to do an inventory for our whole battalion's sensitive items (rifles, pistols, machine guns, night vision devices, gps and radio fill devices then I did it, and it only took me maybe an hour for over 1800 items. That's because I kept accountability of them. If I put the paperwork in already then I did it again. Yeah it sucked but I ate that bowl of turds with a farkin smile on my face. Either they keep accountability or they don't get military toys. I knew where each and every thing was 24/7/365. If these guys can't, then they are not professional.


THANK YOU!!!

If a police department issues a body armor vest to an officer, that officer should have to sign for it and the police department should have that paperwork. If that officer "loses" his vest, he will have to make a sworn statement about what happened to his vest before being issued a new one, and the inventory clerk can then update the inventory accordingly. This isn't rocket science!
 
2012-06-10 09:01:48 PM

Silly Jesus:

Would have taken you slightly more than an hour to do that, wouldn't it?


i'm willing to bet that your 'average' cop shop doesn't have as large an armory as your 'average' infantry unit.
 
2012-06-10 09:03:00 PM

GranoblasticMan: Silly Jesus: I don't understand the line of reasoning that doing something stupid isn't really doing something stupid if it takes little effort.

Like taking an inventory of military-grade equipment.


They already did that.
 
2012-06-10 09:04:07 PM

Silly Jesus: GranoblasticMan: Silly Jesus: I don't understand the line of reasoning that doing something stupid isn't really doing something stupid if it takes little effort.

Like taking an inventory of military-grade equipment.

They already did that.


Okay, prove it.
 
2012-06-10 09:04:33 PM

Silly Jesus: I was under the impression that they wanted the person doing the inventory to actually have eyes on every item.

Would have taken you slightly more than an hour to do that, wouldn't it?


"Physical inventory" means that you physically count every single item that is in your custody. Hand receipts are generally accepted as proof of location for every single item that is NOT in your immediate custody, unless otherwise specified. In such a situation, your inventory would read like this: "Machine guns: 24 on site, 12 vehicle-mounted, 2 issued out to officers".
 
2012-06-10 09:04:39 PM

Silly Jesus: CJHardin: Weaver95: Here's another point to consider - this is MILITARY GRADE weaponry and equipment. the local cops damn well better know where each and every one of those items is at any given point in time. If the Fed calls them up at 4am on a tuesday morning and asks them to track down where 2 specific MILITARY GRADE weapons are located...then the local cops better be able to answer that question within the hour or they should have all their spiffy military toys taken away from them.

you guys wanna play with the big guns then you get to put up with strict inventory control regulations and random spot checks on your armory. don't like it? then don't take the toys off the shelf in the first place.

Since I was an armorer while in the Army, I'm getting a kick out of this.

They should know where EACH AND EVERY one of these things are. Either they have it on hand or they have a hand reciept for whoever has that item. If my commander told me to do an inventory for our whole battalion's sensitive items (rifles, pistols, machine guns, night vision devices, gps and radio fill devices then I did it, and it only took me maybe an hour for over 1800 items. That's because I kept accountability of them. If I put the paperwork in already then I did it again. Yeah it sucked but I ate that bowl of turds with a farkin smile on my face. Either they keep accountability or they don't get military toys. I knew where each and every thing was 24/7/365. If these guys can't, then they are not professional.

I was under the impression that they wanted the person doing the inventory to actually have eyes on every item.

Would have taken you slightly more than an hour to do that, wouldn't it?


Here's how you take care of that. You have the chief TELL everyone that NOBODY goes home until EVERYTHING is accounted for. Then you tell them what time they can have their stuff accounted for. Viola, problem solved. It's called giving orders.
 
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