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(The New York Times)   You know that national shortage of ADHD drugs? Well, we found the cause   (nytimes.com) divider line 166
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2012-06-11 08:40:36 AM  

SDRR: Wolf892: dmars: Wolf892: Question

I never tried any of the drugs being talked about here, so do they make you want to study or just stay awake so you can study? My problem is the minute I open an academic book I feel dead tired no matter how awake I was prior. I hate studying anything I'm not personally interested in. If there's a pill that makes studying feel natural that would be awesome.

These drugs do actually help with that. For me though I had to start studying when it starts to kick in otherwise you might get interested in putting a puzzle together or playing a video game instead and bam you just wasted 4-8 hours not studying.

Pulled together some good A and B papers in one sitting thanks to some of these.

Thanks. Sadly I'm not ADD or ADHD. I wish there was something on the market that could work the same way. I am bogged down in a few courses that are part of my program but are of no interest to me. Sadly...the exams still need to get passed, and the textbooks are real slumber fests...

Coke


Speed. Worked for Hitler.


...for a while, anyway. Till the paranoia and delusions kicked in.
 
2012-06-11 09:13:20 AM  

SkunkWerks: SDRR: Wolf892: dmars: Wolf892: Question

I never tried any of the drugs being talked about here, so do they make you want to study or just stay awake so you can study? My problem is the minute I open an academic book I feel dead tired no matter how awake I was prior. I hate studying anything I'm not personally interested in. If there's a pill that makes studying feel natural that would be awesome.

These drugs do actually help with that. For me though I had to start studying when it starts to kick in otherwise you might get interested in putting a puzzle together or playing a video game instead and bam you just wasted 4-8 hours not studying.

Pulled together some good A and B papers in one sitting thanks to some of these.

Thanks. Sadly I'm not ADD or ADHD. I wish there was something on the market that could work the same way. I am bogged down in a few courses that are part of my program but are of no interest to me. Sadly...the exams still need to get passed, and the textbooks are real slumber fests...

Coke

Speed. Worked for Hitler.


...for a while, anyway. Till the paranoia and delusions kicked in.


www.totalleh.com
 
2012-06-11 09:40:16 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: I tried reading that article, but red car.


Same exact problem I oh wow her shirt is purple.

National shortage is ticking me off real bad because it's making it really hard to get my prescription filled. Sucks because I take that to counteract the zombie-like side-effects of another drug I have to take, so until I can get it filled I just kind of amble along mindlessly and occasionally chew on peoples' faces.
 
2012-06-11 09:43:13 AM  
God I used to like Fark. I guess I still do...but GOD, can't you do something about the whiners?
 
2012-06-11 10:01:17 AM  

WarszawaScream: Sock Ruh Tease: I tried reading that article, but red car.

Same exact problem I oh wow her shirt is purple.

National shortage is ticking me off real bad because it's making it really hard to get my prescription filled. Sucks because I take that to counteract the zombie-like side-effects of another drug I have to take, so until I can get it filled I just kind of amble along mindlessly and occasionally chew on peoples' faces.


stop taking drugs dude. try exercising.
i was diagnosed with ADHD too. and i don't take anything. why not just get a job you can deal with without taking meth. you'll thank yourself in the long run. btw Geranamine works just as well as DEXEDRINE BUT IT DOESNT GET U FEEL LIKE MASTURBATING ALL DAY
 
2012-06-11 10:19:23 AM  
Hitler was using injectable methamphetamine.

Once he started on that sh*t, he was done.

Even today, there's only something like a 3% success rate of people who use injectable speed ever getting clean again.
 
2012-06-11 11:50:18 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: WarszawaScream: Sock Ruh Tease: I tried reading that article, but red car.

Same exact problem I oh wow her shirt is purple.

National shortage is ticking me off real bad because it's making it really hard to get my prescription filled. Sucks because I take that to counteract the zombie-like side-effects of another drug I have to take, so until I can get it filled I just kind of amble along mindlessly and occasionally chew on peoples' faces.

stop taking drugs dude. try exercising.
i was diagnosed with ADHD too. and i don't take anything. why not just get a job you can deal with without taking meth. you'll thank yourself in the long run. btw Geranamine works just as well as DEXEDRINE BUT IT DOESNT GET U FEEL LIKE MASTURBATING ALL DAY


wtf did i just read

I do exercise; gym two or three days a week and I'm out fishing more than that (walking on sand + repeated casting; the "sit in the chair and drink beer while the pole sits idle in the water" fishing is only one or two nights.) I'm not taking it for ADHD, like I said it's the counteract the effects of another medication I take for something debilitating that can't be controlled without medication. Unfortunately I've run the gamut of medications and this is the only one that works for me, so either I stack it with Adderall like the doctor prescribes it or I sit and stare at walls all day. I'd love to not have to take anything and be one of these awesome people who were just misdiagnosed and it turns out that they're perfectly fine, but repeated attempts at pretending I'm fine ended up in repeated episodes of near-hospitalization.

If only we could treat most illnesses with coffee and alcohol...
 
2012-06-11 12:27:53 PM  

WarszawaScream: Jon iz teh kewl: WarszawaScream: Sock Ruh Tease: I tried reading that article, but red car.

Same exact problem I oh wow her shirt is purple.

National shortage is ticking me off real bad because it's making it really hard to get my prescription filled. Sucks because I take that to counteract the zombie-like side-effects of another drug I have to take, so until I can get it filled I just kind of amble along mindlessly and occasionally chew on peoples' faces.

stop taking drugs dude. try exercising.
i was diagnosed with ADHD too. and i don't take anything. why not just get a job you can deal with without taking meth. you'll thank yourself in the long run. btw Geranamine works just as well as DEXEDRINE BUT IT DOESNT GET U FEEL LIKE MASTURBATING ALL DAY

wtf did i just read

I do exercise; gym two or three days a week and I'm out fishing more than that (walking on sand + repeated casting; the "sit in the chair and drink beer while the pole sits idle in the water" fishing is only one or two nights.) I'm not taking it for ADHD, like I said it's the counteract the effects of another medication I take for something debilitating that can't be controlled without medication. Unfortunately I've run the gamut of medications and this is the only one that works for me, so either I stack it with Adderall like the doctor prescribes it or I sit and stare at walls all day. I'd love to not have to take anything and be one of these awesome people who were just misdiagnosed and it turns out that they're perfectly fine, but repeated attempts at pretending I'm fine ended up in repeated episodes of near-hospitalization.

If only we could treat most illnesses with coffee and alcohol...


what is this "debilitating" prescription? anxiety??
what a joke
just stop taking your shiat

try an ECA stack!
 
2012-06-11 02:03:45 PM  
I really wish I hadn't read about crushing up the beads in Adderall XRs. I...really wish I didn't know this. I'm staring at the pill and wondering how I can do this nownownownow, someone has a CD case or something I can take to to the bathroom, right? Oh, fark. People like me do NOT need to know these things.
 
2012-06-11 03:00:02 PM  
I've been prescribed Adderall for years, the stuff works wonders in small doses but if I take too much I just get jittery and weird. There's a fine line between use and abuse though, there's no test for ADHD, I just went to a doctor and told him I had trouble focusing on work and he gave me a sample to try. I go in once a month and chat with him about random stuff and get a prescription. I dunno why people buy it on the black market when it's so easy to get it prescribed legally.
 
2012-06-11 04:32:03 PM  

James10952001: I've been prescribed Adderall for years, the stuff works wonders in small doses but if I take too much I just get jittery and weird. There's a fine line between use and abuse though, there's no test for ADHD, I just went to a doctor and told him I had trouble focusing on work and he gave me a sample to try. I go in once a month and chat with him about random stuff and get a prescription. I dunno why people buy it on the black market when it's so easy to get it prescribed legally.


My Husband is the same way, if he gets back on Adderall he won't sleep for 3 days straight. I told him to get a low-dose Adderall or Ritalin (He's on 30mg) instead but apparently his GP won't do it. I'm going to go to him next time.

Personally, I wish GP would encourage other forms of therapy instead of just "handling them a pill so they go away".

Delivered from Distraction is an awesome book that balances pill and non-pill therapies for ADD that's written by a Doc with ADD and not a hippie.
 
2012-06-11 06:33:00 PM  

titwrench: I was recently prescribed Xanax. I don't want to take it anyone have any experiences with it?


Xanax worked for me, though I sometimes got headaches, so I take Ativan now. I haven't had any issues with dependence or addiction with either of them. No weird side effects or dependence with Adderall, either. Maybe I'm just one of those people for whom meds just work?

/I take that back. Effexor was awful
 
2012-06-11 06:44:35 PM  

downstairs: StreetlightInTheGhetto: How about going after the doctors who make it incredibly easy for kids to get scripts with a half hour appointment and leave us who have documented and legit needs out of it?

^^^^This.

Even as an adult, my doctor perscribed me Xanax basically to get me out of the office. By a stroke of luck it worked, and luckily I have a psychiatrist (and a good one to boot) handling those meds now. I just KNEW my general doctor didn't know crap.

I had cluster migraine headaches and he perscribed me vicodin. It doesn't work like that, idiot. Went to a real brain doctor and got some serious psych meds that luckily solved the cluster headache problem within a month.

I hate GPs


I take Imitrex for my migraines. Works great.

However, in the past I've taken Vicodin for migraines and it did nada. No impact whatsoever. Migraine pain is a different kind of pain...
 
2012-06-11 06:51:17 PM  

Wolf892: Question

I never tried any of the drugs being talked about here, so do they make you want to study or just stay awake so you can study? My problem is the minute I open an academic book I feel dead tired no matter how awake I was prior. I hate studying anything I'm not personally interested in. If there's a pill that makes studying feel natural that would be awesome.


No, they don't make you study but they do kind of act like blinders, allowing you to focus in whatever it is you turn your attention to.

There's a joke that describes it: Took Adderall to study; ended up alphabetizing my CD collection instead.
 
2012-06-12 02:54:49 AM  
FizixJunkee

There's a joke that describes it: Took Adderall to study; ended up alphabetizing my CD collection instead.

Oh my god, this.

Adderall helps you stay focused but you still have to aim that brain at the right target.
 
2012-06-13 10:13:47 AM  

ZipSplat: Maybe they shouldn't run school like a shiatty people factory. I love learning - I hated school.


PsiChick: Could we maybe take a look at our education system and find a way to teach kids without eight hours a night of homework and putting all the pressure on one or two tests? Just maybe?

/I know a guy who had been homeschooled his whole life, and on his first day of HS, junior year, came home with literally eight hours of homework.
//Not 'I'm lazy\stupid eight hours' either. This guy was perfectly average, and it was eight full hours worth.


Both of these.

I have a now-9YO who is very seriously ADHD (primarily hyperactive) and a now-10YO who is also seriously ADHD (primarily inattentive, so his was often ignored). We went through YEARS of struggle with the school district. Psychiatrists, behavior modification, occupational therapists, counselors - you name it. We went through the IEP rigamarole. Still, both of my boys were falling WAY behind.

So now, we homeschool. They both love to read (just not from textbooks!), so we teach through "living books", storybooks, and so forth. We learn by DOING, and we watch documentaries and play games. We limit the amount of writing that we require because both of them have delays in their fine motor skills which make writing difficult and frustrating (we use art and drawing to work on fine motor skills because it's more interesting). And most importantly, we let them MOVE. We actually demand large periods of time for active, outdoor play.

Now in less than a year, they're both performing well above grade level and actually ENJOYING learning.

Maybe the problem is with our educational system (and by extension, our corporate "cubicle" culture).
 
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