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(NYPost)   Principal bans kindergartners from singing 'God Bless the USA' at graduation because she doesn't want other cultures to be offended, but allows a Justin Bieber song. In other news, kindergartners have graduation ceremonies   (nypost.com) divider line 214
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2012-06-10 06:24:15 PM  
What other country on this planet worries about offending people with their national songs. I mean is there a single other country out there? Now I personally believe that the number of people who would have been offended is in the range of ZERO, but if Im mistaken and someone is actually offended by this, I would be happy to show them the way back to their home country.
 
2012-06-10 06:27:39 PM  

Psycat: Now here's a classic American folk song from a guy who had This Machine Kills Fascists on his guitar:

--Woody Guthrie


Private property sucks. We just need a communist utopia to really have freedom. What a farking moron.
 
2012-06-10 06:30:00 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: thisisarepeat: The My Little Pony Killer: borg: Does the principal know the God of Islam, the God of Christianity & the God of Judaism is the same God? The only people offended would be atheists.

/Fundies are all on the same bus just sitting in different seats.

She's probably aware of that whole "separation of church and state" dealio.

I wonder if she is also aware of unicorns. Because the two of them both exist exclusively in peoples imaginations. As much as I wish it were the first damn amendment, and required execution for any public official suspected of believing in the sky wizard, it does not exist, its a good idea, but just a fantasy. So please stop acting as if it were law instead of just something Ben Franklin mused about between French whores.

You seem upset.


Well, I don't have children, don't want children and my girlfriend cant have children. So I've got a lot at stake here in a thread about kindergarten graduation ceremonies.
 
2012-06-10 06:36:49 PM  

badhatharry: These idiots want money banned because it says, "In God We Trust" on it. Seperation of Church and State does not mean what they think it means.


People who want to uphold the separation of state and church don't want to ban money.

Nice strawman.
 
2012-06-10 06:38:42 PM  
Has never watched a NASCAR race
www.nypost.com
 
2012-06-10 06:40:34 PM  

badhatharry: Psycat: Now here's a classic American folk song from a guy who had This Machine Kills Fascists on his guitar:

--Woody Guthrie

Private property sucks. We just need a communist utopia to really have freedom. What a farking moron.


Dude, really?
 
2012-06-10 06:47:36 PM  

Mildot: What other country on this planet worries about offending people with their national songs.


An easy one would be Germany

/this thread was Goodwin'd Stalin'd a long time ago
 
2012-06-10 06:47:38 PM  

badhatharry: Private property sucks. We just need a communist utopia to really have freedom. What a farking moron.


Suck it, fascist boy.
 
2012-06-10 06:49:14 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: badhatharry: Psycat: Now here's a classic American folk song from a guy who had This Machine Kills Fascists on his guitar:

--Woody Guthrie

Private property sucks. We just need a communist utopia to really have freedom. What a farking moron.

Dude, really?


No, I think he was being sarcastic.

I can tell by the words, and from seeing quite a few sarcastic posts in my time.
 
2012-06-10 06:49:32 PM  

borg: Does the principal know the God of Islam, the God of Christianity & the God of Judaism is the same God? The only people offended would be atheists.

/Fundies are all on the same bus just sitting in different seats.


Their in the right church but the wrong pew.
 
2012-06-10 06:49:45 PM  

badhatharry: These idiots want money banned because it says, "In God We Trust" on it. Seperation of Church and State does not mean what they think it means.


By "these idiots" you mean "figments of some right-wing nitwit's fevered imagination," right?
 
2012-06-10 06:50:06 PM  

TravisBickle62: Trance750: The My Little Pony Killer: borg: Does the principal know the God of Islam, the God of Christianity & the God of Judaism is the same God? The only people offended would be atheists.

/Fundies are all on the same bus just sitting in different seats.

She's probably aware of that whole "separation of church and state" dealio.

OK, but it's OK to have a prayer room for Muslims.

The school I teach at has a prayer room for Muslims, plus an entirely separate cafeteria for Muslims where no pork products are allowed, also the female male teachers are required happy to blow the Muslim students twice a day.


FTFY
 
2012-06-10 06:52:06 PM  

WizardofToast: Instead of a song that may only offend the far-left parents of children, they got a song that offends everyone.


Only far left parents don't want their impressionable kindergartners singing patriotic songs?
 
2012-06-10 06:55:34 PM  
Can't anyone fire this biatch before the others arrive?
 
2012-06-10 06:56:27 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: badhatharry: Psycat: Now here's a classic American folk song from a guy who had This Machine Kills Fascists on his guitar:

--Woody Guthrie

Private property sucks. We just need a communist utopia to really have freedom. What a farking moron.

Dude, really?


Sorry, Guthrie irritates me. I would tell him, "No, this ain't your land. GTFO. Didn't you see the farking sign."
 
2012-06-10 06:56:31 PM  

Mildot: What other country on this planet worries about offending people with their national songs. I mean is there a single other country out there? Now I personally believe that the number of people who would have been offended is in the range of ZERO, but if Im mistaken and someone is actually offended by this, I would be happy to show them the way back to their home country.


GBTUSA isn't a national song. The national anthem is the "national song." I believe we already have one of those.

Also, could you point me to gate for the plane leaving for the USA? I am offended by this song.
 
2012-06-10 06:58:34 PM  

Snarfangel: No, I think he was being sarcastic.

I can tell by the words, and from seeing quite a few sarcastic posts in my time.


I'm not a commie in real life, I just play one on Fark to rattle the cages of the easily provoked. badhatharry and others are one upset away from having a Total Sphincter Implosion (TM) due to being humor impaired. It's like they revoked his comic license or something...
 
2012-06-10 07:03:07 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: TravisBickle62: Trance750: The My Little Pony Killer: borg: Does the principal know the God of Islam, the God of Christianity & the God of Judaism is the same God? The only people offended would be atheists.

/Fundies are all on the same bus just sitting in different seats.

She's probably aware of that whole "separation of church and state" dealio.

OK, but it's OK to have a prayer room for Muslims.

The school I teach at has a prayer room for Muslims, plus an entirely separate cafeteria for Muslims where no pork products are allowed, also the female male teachers are required happy to blow the Muslim students twice a day.

FTFY


Are Non Muslim kids allowed to enter those rooms? They should be, it's a city facility. And why would they not have a prayer room for Christian children to say their daily prayers?
 
2012-06-10 07:11:43 PM  
There is absolutely nothing new or profound about a nation or a tribe's willingness to proclaim that God has a special relationship with them.
 
2012-06-10 07:12:55 PM  
I can't stand that song. Can't farking stand it. They could sing better songs, i.e. America the Beautiful, or something else more classic. Not some shiat 1980's pop-country dreck.
 
2012-06-10 07:13:14 PM  
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2012-06-10 07:17:14 PM  
Just as a thought experiment, let's completely ignore the pros/cons of the song and point out that every couple of months, some educator somewhere does something like this. The response is always the same, and the ultimate result - embarrassment of the school system and exposure of unpopular beliefs on the part of the educator - is, again, always the same.

So WHY in FSM's Name do people keep doing this? They see the results, they see it makes no difference, and it simply ends up hurting them in the long run, and the ultimate result is the same every farking time. Do some of these folks simply say, "Well, I'M different, and I'll get away with it"?

/Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
 
2012-06-10 07:19:23 PM  

Psycat: Snarfangel: No, I think he was being sarcastic.

I can tell by the words, and from seeing quite a few sarcastic posts in my time.

I'm not a commie in real life, I just play one on Fark to rattle the cages of the easily provoked. badhatharry and others are one upset away from having a Total Sphincter Implosion (TM) due to being humor impaired. It's like they revoked his comic license or something...


I didn't realize you were being sarcastic. I forgot that Guthrie wrote that song because he didn't like God Bless America.
 
2012-06-10 07:26:25 PM  

chance4510: She is a Jehovah's Witness - pretty much explains it.


JW's believe it is wrong to exalt humans, and cannot participate in celebrations that are part of this world. This would include a graduation ceremony. This would definitely include being in charge of a graduation ceremony. Why can't they just make life miserable for their fellow cult members and leave normal folks alone?
 
2012-06-10 07:32:37 PM  
So, this Anti-American Bigot has no problem offending American culture?

This nonsense usually ends up causing more confusion for the kids, and quite a lot of upset for their families.
 
2012-06-10 07:37:52 PM  

badhatharry: I didn't realize you were being sarcastic. I forgot that Guthrie wrote that song because he didn't like God Bless America.


I probably should have shown more restraint myself. I'm not a commie, but I do have working-class sympathies and like this song even if it encourages trespassing. Kate Smith was the Lee Greenwood of her time, and I can see why Guthrie wasn't a big fan of her music...
 
2012-06-10 07:48:21 PM  
I remember back in the 60's and 70's....bumper stickers with the phrase
"America, love it or leave it". Someone needs to slap that on the mouth of that FOOL principal, and send her packing to her favorite European, African, or socialist country, so she doesn't have to be "offended". This is America jack! Love OUR country, or GTFO! You want to COME HERE, fine, but, that means you can't be "offended" by our CULTURE. If you don't like the way we sing, dance, drink, shoot guns, worship, then go back to your own flea infested country. Why did you come here in the first place if America is "so offensive".
Bunch of liberal bed wetting jerks!
 
2012-06-10 07:49:59 PM  

borg: Does the principal know the God of Islam, the God of Christianity & the God of Judaism is the same God? The only people offended would be atheists.

/Fundies are all on the same bus just sitting in different seats.


Why would atheists be offended by not singing about God? This isn't Bizarro World.
 
2012-06-10 07:55:10 PM  
Rather than get into religious wars about it, just replace "God Bless America" with "Gesundheit, America."
 
2012-06-10 08:11:09 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Shouldn't you be in church right now singing about how God wants you all to be rich and people are only poor because they don't read their Bibles?


Haven't been to church in years but you keep swinging that broad brush. I'm sure you'll eventually paint someone who actually is what you accuse them of.
 
2012-06-10 08:12:25 PM  

DancingElkCondor: So, this Anti-American Bigot has no problem offending American culture?

This nonsense usually ends up causing more confusion for the kids, and quite a lot of upset for their families.


Of course, in the real world, there's nothing anti-American about her actions. The Establishment Clause pretty clearly covers this - the school's promotion of God is a statement that the government promotes a religious viewpoint.... Not all citizens believe in God, and the confusion comes when students raised atheist, Buddhist, or other belief systems are led to believe that their belief isn't the norm.

The principal was right here.
 
2012-06-10 08:13:10 PM  

Psycat:
Wacky anal-retentive *narrow-minded* Jesus Fascists should just chill out instead of trashing America while draped in a flag and thumping a Wholly Babble.


Way to white knight someone who advocated cold-blooded murder.

/scary how many 'tards are out there
 
2012-06-10 08:21:23 PM  
If they are pretentious enough to have a graduation ceremony for kindergartners, then they are pretentious enough to be easily offended while remaining clueless, so good call on the principal's part.
 
2012-06-10 08:22:23 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: borg: Does the principal know the God of Islam, the God of Christianity & the God of Judaism is the same God? The only people offended would be atheists.

/Fundies are all on the same bus just sitting in different seats.

She's probably aware of that whole "separation of church and state" dealio.


You think separation of church and state means schools can't sing songs with religious themes? Federal courts seem to disagree with you

Bauchman v. West High School
Florey v. Sioux Falls School District
Doe v. Duncanville Independent School District
 
2012-06-10 08:24:02 PM  

DancingElkCondor: So, this Anti-American Bigot has no problem offending American culture?


This is laughably stupid. The song doesn't symbolize America, it doesn't stand for our believes, it's just a shiatty song some guy wrote to pander to people like you.
 
2012-06-10 08:25:10 PM  

peterthx: Psycat:
Wacky anal-retentive *narrow-minded* Jesus Fascists should just chill out instead of trashing America while draped in a flag and thumping a Wholly Babble.

Way to white knight someone who advocated cold-blooded murder.

/scary how many 'tards are out there


Because anyone who isn't part of religion wants to slaughter those who are, correct? That's the implication people bring up whenever they start ranting about Stalin and Mao in a religion thread.

NO religion is sacred in America. That's the law, made to keep the country from becoming a one-religion theocracy. Christianity is not special. Buddhism is not special. The Elder Gods are not special. Darkseid is not special. None of them are. You can worship who you want all you want, but we'd appreciate it if you don't scream about how those who aren't part of your club are going to die and burn forever in hell, and we don't want you shoving your club down our throats. Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion.
 
2012-06-10 08:25:25 PM  

Gleeman: So it's OK for us to play that song over the loudspeakers every time my first Navy ship left on deployment to defend the right to play it, but not for these kids to sing it?

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How many of those kids actually wanted to sing that?

/ again, this song is not very good
 
2012-06-10 08:30:14 PM  

Need_MindBleach: You know, God Bless the USA is a pretty terrible song, and I do think Kindergarten graduations are stupid, and I'm not usually one of those "America Love It or Leave it" assholes, but if you find the concept of children singing a patriotic song about your own country offensive, perhaps you should either keep it to yourself or leave.


Good point. ( If i were in school admin., I'd let this one slide, despite the sheer awfulness of the music)
 
2012-06-10 08:36:42 PM  
Barack, Hussein, Obama -- yah yah yah!!!
 
2012-06-10 08:47:47 PM  

Krieghund: I had a kindergarten graduation ceremony in 1980, so I wouldn't really consider that part news.


Yeah, but you were 23 years old at the time...
 
2012-06-10 08:58:36 PM  
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I want to believe.
 
2012-06-10 09:07:42 PM  

Saturn5: [thedailyfix.com image 550x376]
I want to believe.


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No words. They should have sent a poet. So beautiful
 
2012-06-10 09:08:44 PM  

Saturn5: [thedailyfix.com image 550x376]
I want to believe.


I'll never understand the psychotic hatred for Bieber. But he's young and popular, so logic apparently dictates that anyone over a certain age should hate him on principle.
 
2012-06-10 09:10:12 PM  
Well, it's a start.
 
2012-06-10 09:19:16 PM  

His Sonshine: Maybe the the children should sing:

"Let all with one accord

In common bond united,

Build this our nation together,

And the glory of Kenya,

The fruit of our labour

Fill every heart with thanksgiving."



Or perhaps they could sing another patriotic song that doesn't completely suck and/or force the Christian concept of "God" onto kids who may not share this belief?

Would you allow your children to sing schmaltzy praises to Allah in a public school?
 
2012-06-10 09:29:42 PM  

browntimmy: DancingElkCondor: So, this Anti-American Bigot has no problem offending American culture?

This is laughably stupid. The song doesn't symbolize America, it doesn't stand for our believes, it's just a shiatty song some guy wrote to pander to people like you.


shiat, I just wrote "believes" instead of "beliefs". I hate that.
 
2012-06-10 09:40:21 PM  

GAT_00: By the way, kindergarten graduation ceremonies? They aren't really for the kids.


Except they've been doing it since I was little (and I'm middle aged now) so the whole "in other news..." bit was stupid.
 
2012-06-10 09:48:58 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: borg: Does the principal know the God of Islam, the God of Christianity & the God of Judaism is the same God? The only people offended would be atheists.

/Fundies are all on the same bus just sitting in different seats.

She's probably aware of that whole "separation of church and state" dealio.


Separation of church and state does not apply in cases like this. The singing of a song titled "god bless America" does not constitute teaching christianity in school.
 
2012-06-10 09:50:05 PM  

borg: Does the principal know the God of Islam, the God of Christianity & the God of Judaism is the same God? The only people offended would be atheists.

/Fundies are all on the same bus just sitting in different seats.


Sadly many christian fundies do not believe that they are all the same god!
 
2012-06-10 10:14:07 PM  
Stupid coont.
 
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