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(Times Union)   After the students tried to create a senior prank that was safe and non-destructive, the administrators decided to teach them a real life lesson and suspend them anyways   (timesunion.com) divider line 76
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2012-06-10 06:30:02 PM
So a graduating senior Tebows while walking across the stage, causing zero damage or cleanup efforts - Farkers rejoice the guy gets punished.

A bunch of kids place 5000 packs of Post it notes all over a school while shooting video - Farkers ask where is common sense and decry zero tolerance policies.
 
2012-06-10 06:36:37 PM

Securitywyrm: cyks: Securitywyrm: Mock26: "The 29 who papered the school in Post-Its were suspended for being in school after hours, according to two students in the group."

Good call. If the students had been caught in the school at nigh (when school is closed) earlier in the year they probably would have received the exact same punishment. The fact that i twas for a "senior prank" does not make them exempt.

As for the penis, their punishment has nothing to do with it.

As eager as I would be to jump on the "Administrators are idiots" bandwagon, I have to side with the principal on this one. The students were not punished for the senior prank. They were punished for being on school after-hours, and the punishment would have been the same for any other day of the year. This is one of those "Enforce the rules or lose your job" situations. If he doesn't enforce the rule here, then the next group of students caught after-hours on campus can say "Well the seniors who did the prank didn't get punished."


That'd be all fine and dandy... except that it was (adult) school workers who let the students in. They didn't break in. The doors were unlocked for them and they were invited inside.

Because the people we hire to clean up shiat and puke from high school students are bastions of knowledge and wisdom, right?


Joe always said wise things, like "Do not drink Night Train with GingerAle from a beer bong, let the chicks do that."

So yeah, I'd consider that a pillar, if not a bastion of knowledge. Not that I'd ever burn Joe (because he was cool) but he is employed by that school
 
2012-06-10 06:55:36 PM

Methadone Girls: And this is why you should just cover the prinicpals car with silly string and GTFO


Correct. If you're going to be punished one way or the other, you might as well do something to deserve it!
 
2012-06-10 07:31:07 PM
So the lesson is that traditional pranks and the newer "safe" pranks are treated the same. May as well go with the older ones then.
 
2012-06-10 07:42:30 PM

Maul555: they must have the stupidest janitors in the world at that place... Let in a bunch of students after hours and help them put up post its? Not worried about having to clean up after these people? WTF?


I was thinking the students told them they were going to clean up for them the next day. What I don't like is how the students narc'd on the janitors and told the administration that they let them in. Way to throw your "inside man" under the bus.
 
2012-06-10 07:47:00 PM
Don't forget the seniors who *gasp* rode their bikes to school, with police permission and a police escort, and with the mayor's knowledge, who were suspended for it.

ZERO TOLERANCE BIATCHES
 
2012-06-10 08:01:41 PM
How about we just start executing students for all violations of the zero tolerance policy already. If we're such goddamned chicken-pussies that we have to suspend someone for popping a bubblegum bubble or putting a sticky note on a locker door, might as well stop sitting halfway and go for the whole hog.
 
2012-06-10 08:05:55 PM

hobblekitty: I graduated from this high school back in 1995.

CSB time!

The year I graduated, during the school-wide "moving up day" ceremony, someone opened a bag filled with 3000 crickets in the darkened auditorium where the entire school was gathered. I was sitting sort of in the middle of the senior section, and all of the sudden I started to see the people in the rows in front of me jumping out of their seats, row by row like a wave. Then the underclassmen at either side of the auditorium started jumping out of their seats. Soon the entire auditorium was up out of their seats, jumping around, waving their hands and shrieking as they tried to brush the crickets off themselves. The teachers and staff were trying to usher everyone out of the auditorium and get them back to their homerooms, and as folks poured out of the auditorium the crickets did too, there was live crickets, dead crickets, cricket slime every where.

After the ruckus died down we were able to go back to the auditorium to collect our yearbooks (they had to let us back in through one of the back stage doors). When all was said and done, at least 1 person was arrested and a few kids were banned from graduation over the stunt. Now, THAT is a senior prank. It made front page news in the same newspaper from TFA, above the fold (because back then the internet was young). Must have been a slow news day.

/CSB


Was this the guy?

www.alicia-logic.com
 
2012-06-10 08:22:09 PM
Their birthdays -- TAKEN AWAY.
 
2012-06-10 08:30:51 PM
I like the kid who said he "understood" that until the spray-painting penis dude was taught that his group had to be used as an example.

Way to give in to the man. You're a teenager! You're supposed to see injustice everywhere!
 
2012-06-10 08:32:20 PM

Securitywyrm:
Because the people we hire to clean up shiat and puke from high school students are bastions of knowledge and wisdom, right?


The weirdest part of this comment is the idea that a group of high school seniors are completely incapable of self regulation yet we give them the right to vote and drivers licences, then send them off to live in collage dorms essentially unsupervised for months at a time. Who cares in the custodial staff (Who would have to clean this mess up) where good supervisors of the children or not, they where good supervisors of the school itself. Is there some magic that makes you capable of self regulation at High School graduation?
 
pla
2012-06-10 08:35:13 PM
Securitywyrm : They were punished for being on school after-hours, and the punishment would have been the same for any other day of the year.

FTA: "As adults in this learning community, we are not willing to sacrifice the health and safety of ourselves or our students, we are not willing to sacrifice the integrity of our school building, and we will not tolerate the loss of valuable planning or instructional time"

Could you kindly explain how entering the school after hours affects health, safety, planning, or instructional time?


Seriously, kids - The lesson from all this? LOSE THE FARKING CAMERAS and stop posting yourselves to YouTube.
 
pla
2012-06-10 08:38:07 PM
cenobyte40k : Who cares in the custodial staff (Who would have to clean this mess up) where good supervisors of the children or not, they where good supervisors of the school itself.

Seriously? Post-It notes. Have you ever tried to use a post-it note for anything serious? Hell, look at the pictures in TFA - Quite a few of them have already fallen without any assistance from the janitors.

Shop vac. 30 seconds. Done.
 
2012-06-10 09:11:37 PM

cenobyte40k: Securitywyrm:
Because the people we hire to clean up shiat and puke from high school students are bastions of knowledge and wisdom, right?

The weirdest part of this comment is the idea that a group of high school seniors are completely incapable of self regulation yet we give them the right to vote and drivers licences, then send them off to live in collage dorms essentially unsupervised for months at a time. Who cares in the custodial staff (Who would have to clean this mess up) where good supervisors of the children or not, they where good supervisors of the school itself. Is there some magic that makes you capable of self regulation at High School graduation?


18-21 is that weird time where you're an adult for some things yet still a child for others. We trust them with making the decision of who should run the country, but we think they're too mentally immature to handle alcohol.
 
2012-06-10 09:37:00 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: 18-21 is that weird time where you're an adult for some things yet still a child for others. We trust them with making the decision of who should run the country, but we think they're too mentally immature to handle alcohol.


To this day, I still rage over this

/just turned 21
//still think age limit is BS
 
2012-06-10 09:45:29 PM

cyks: Securitywyrm: Mock26: "The 29 who papered the school in Post-Its were suspended for being in school after hours, according to two students in the group."

Good call. If the students had been caught in the school at nigh (when school is closed) earlier in the year they probably would have received the exact same punishment. The fact that i twas for a "senior prank" does not make them exempt.

As for the penis, their punishment has nothing to do with it.

As eager as I would be to jump on the "Administrators are idiots" bandwagon, I have to side with the principal on this one. The students were not punished for the senior prank. They were punished for being on school after-hours, and the punishment would have been the same for any other day of the year. This is one of those "Enforce the rules or lose your job" situations. If he doesn't enforce the rule here, then the next group of students caught after-hours on campus can say "Well the seniors who did the prank didn't get punished."


That'd be all fine and dandy... except that it was (adult) school workers who let the students in. They didn't break in. The doors were unlocked for them and they were invited inside.


Did the janitors have the authority to let the students in after hours? I am guessing that the answer is "No." And in that case then it does not matter that they were let in or broke in on their own. They were still inside the school when they were not supposed to be.
 
2012-06-10 09:57:48 PM
One of my favorite School Admin dickheads who think certain things are more important than they really are involves Lance Armstrong. IIRC he was a senior in high school and was asked to train with the Junior National Team somewhere but the school admin dick said if you go you'll miss too much school and we won't let you graduate. So Lance and his mom get on the phone and start calling around and find a school that says 'no problem, be glad to have you'. So Lance transfers schools goes on to become world famous and absolutely refuses to have anything to do with his previous high school.

tl;dr Petty High School Admins are petty.
 
2012-06-10 10:26:24 PM
My senior prank was to graduate in December. I farking hated high school, bored me to the point I was getting dangerous.

In hindsight I think that AP credits carry more influence than graduating early and going to community college to knock out the basics.
 
2012-06-10 11:16:59 PM

Mock26: Did the janitors have the authority to let the students in after hours? I am guessing that the answer is "No." And in that case then it does not matter that they were let in or broke in on their own. They were still inside the school when they were not supposed to be.


To the high school students, the janitors had the apparent authority to let them in. As far as a court is concerned, that is enough to settle that issue. They did not "break into the school" and only an idiot district attorney would prosecute them for that. Maybe the school has an issue with the janitors, but the students get a pass.
 
2012-06-10 11:21:09 PM

dopekitty74: Could've sworn I read this story sometime in the last couple weeks (can't pinpoint exactly) or else it was another school that did the same thing and also got punished?


Same here. I think it was 2 weeks ago. If I had the patience and time, I'd probably try to look back and see when.
 
2012-06-10 11:22:41 PM

wildcardjack: My senior prank was to graduate in December. I farking hated high school, bored me to the point I was getting dangerous.

In hindsight I think that AP credits carry more influence than graduating early and going to community college to knock out the basics.


AP credits might be accepted at a larger number of institutions than might accept credits earned at your local community college.
Other than that, no one cares if you got credit for a freshman class via AP, community college, or traditional coursework.
 
2012-06-11 01:01:16 AM
Link

Something like this happened near my area this year. The funny thing is the superintendent involved was a teacher back when I was in school in the mid 90s, and he was a tool, then. Looks like nothing's changed.
 
2012-06-11 06:22:13 AM
Can someone explain to me what a school administrator does that justifies his/her employment? So far as I can tell, they exist solely to collect a salary, enforce rules capriciously, and disrupt classes by scheduling non-educational assemblies. They're certainly not supervising the teachers -- most never enter a classroom -- and it's not exactly like an individual public school has a complicated financial infrastructure that requires careful management. So what is it, exactly, that they *do* all day?
 
2012-06-11 10:55:54 AM

Bhruic: FTA: The students involved in the Post-It incident posted a YouTube video of their antics, which listed their names. Students are seen plastering lockers with the notes, leaping down stairwells and pulling down their pants to show off their underwear.

Depending on genders, this may be relevant to my interests.


I'm not saying (at least in this reply) whether I agree with the suspensions, but it's rarely a good idea to show one's ass and face in the same video, particularly on the grounds of a school.
 
2012-06-11 08:25:43 PM

wambu: Mock26: Did the janitors have the authority to let the students in after hours? I am guessing that the answer is "No." And in that case then it does not matter that they were let in or broke in on their own. They were still inside the school when they were not supposed to be.

To the high school students, the janitors had the apparent authority to let them in. As far as a court is concerned, that is enough to settle that issue. They did not "break into the school" and only an idiot district attorney would prosecute them for that. Maybe the school has an issue with the janitors, but the students get a pass.


Can you site precedence on this "apparent authority"?
 
2012-06-11 10:41:42 PM

Mock26: wambu: Mock26: Did the janitors have the authority to let the students in after hours? I am guessing that the answer is "No." And in that case then it does not matter that they were let in or broke in on their own. They were still inside the school when they were not supposed to be.

To the high school students, the janitors had the apparent authority to let them in. As far as a court is concerned, that is enough to settle that issue. They did not "break into the school" and only an idiot district attorney would prosecute them for that. Maybe the school has an issue with the janitors, but the students get a pass.

Can you site precedence on this "apparent authority"?


I learned it in school. But here's a Wikipedia link for those too lazy to use the Googles.
 
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