Facial hair is a real problem with rescue breathers and filter mask. Its really a good way to get yourself killed if you don't have a good seal in a toxic environment.

Revek: Facial hair is a real problem with rescue breathers and filter mask. Its really a good way to get yourself killed if you don't have a good seal in a toxic environment.

God will protect them from the toxic fumes.

NYC has a large orthodox Jewish population, couldn't they just assign him to a precinct in that area so that those he would be policing wouldn't find his facial hair unkempt?

New York Phire Department?

Wulfman: Would somebody please explain the grammar of the headline? I don't get it.

danielscissorhands: Do I REALLY have to be the first grammar Nazi here? Or was that headline supposed to be read in a really strong Jewish accent?

Not subby, but I think "seder" is supposed to be read as "said their." It's somewhat of a stretch.

"They didn't give me anything," Litzman said, explaining to the paper that the police department did not offer an explicit reason for his firing. "I don't understand what the problem would be."

I think I see the problem.

danielscissorhands: headline =

NYPD fires Orthodox Jewish recruit because they seder policy does not allow long facial hair

Do I REALLY have to be the first grammar Nazi here? Or was that headline supposed to be read in a really strong Jewish accent?

Nope. Most of us don't get butt-hurt over it. Like none of us has ever made a typo

The NYPD has been in business for quite a while.... their policies are well established and recruits have to sign paperwork upon receiving a job offer stating that they understand and will abide by the rules/policies of the department.

This is just another member of the "It's all about me" generation. He just figured everyone will allow him to do whatever he wants in the end and would ignore the rules.

If you want the job bad enough, you will follow the rules. I'm sure all religious groups would have exceptions for such things when it involves employment.

rebelyell2006: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Ed Finnerty: Because how can long facial hair possibly be a problem when surrounded by extreme heat and flames?

Revek: Facial hair is a real problem with rescue breathers and filter mask. Its really a good way to get yourself killed if you don't have a good seal in a toxic environment.

The police must not do the usual stuff where I come from.

The mods might have done a stealth headline change, as I thought it said "NYFD" before I read the article.





Except there is no such entity as NYFD. It is FDNY.

vudukungfu: The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals found that, because black males suffer from pseudofolliculitis barbae more than Caucasian males, Domino's Pizza's no-beard policy violated the 1991 Civil Rights Act, Title VII.[8]


Do many Dominos drivers have to suit up in respiratory gear in certain neighborhoods? I doubt there are too many biohazard scenes desperately in need of a large cheese and sausage.

A job with NYPD is a career you're investing years in.... this guy knew in advance what was expected of him in exchange for a long-term career.

Mock26: If the Army is willing to allow Sikhs to have beards then why not the New York Police Department?


Because the Army is not the New York Police Department.

Why are rules so hard for people to understand? No matter where you look, companies/organizations have rules and policies. Key rule here: If you don't like or can't conform to what they require of you, don't apply.

There are different policies for different departments. If this guy is so determined to snub the NYPD rules, then perhaps he should seek out a dept. that will allow beards instead of starting a career by immediately rejecting the very rules he first agreed to...