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(NPR)   The secret to good beer? Good water. That explains the success of Budweiser and failure of Keystone   (npr.org) divider line 170
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2012-06-10 02:18:40 AM

whidbey: And since I'm actually drinking a glass of some artisan rosé I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Either that, or the rosé is starting to kick in. One of the two.

That said, let's get a PNW beer up in here.

This is good stuff:

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OK, maybe I like the bottle. It is a good garden-variety IPA, though, worth your time if you collect a bunch of cool beers to take back home with you.


I am drinking Mountain Creek beer. Just kidding. Nobody will get that unless they have tasted it. I would prefer horse piss to that horrible swill. It might even be cheaper than Steel, though.
 
2012-06-10 02:18:49 AM
I've been brewing for years so I'm getting a kick...

Actually, making the jump to building water specifically for the beer was one of the best decisions I've made. My water isn't suitable for drinking, let alone brewing, so I might as well replicate known water profiles that are good for beer even if it costs a couple bucks more a batch.
 
2012-06-10 02:20:27 AM
I like budweiser and many of the other beers mentioned in this thread
 
2012-06-10 02:22:28 AM

Sabyen91: It might even be cheaper than Steel, though.


A really weird thing is that this beer from Rochester, NY is on sale at the QFC near my house for 1.29 a 24 ounce can.

It's really not that bad at all. Full-bodied. Just wonder why TF it's so cheap? The brewery's over 3000 miles away....

robsbeercans.com
 
2012-06-10 02:23:09 AM
ive had this.

s3.amazonaws.com

that night was a blur and we tried a lot of different beers.

assets.news4uonline.com

this stuff made me want to throw up. I didnt but its on my no-drink list now.
 
2012-06-10 02:24:38 AM

CalamitousCrasher: NobleHam: Miss Stein: [i759.photobucket.com image 358x240]

Except it's not. It was the water, then they moved to California.

Is that well still there in a random parking lot in downtown Oly? I loved the idea of a random pipe continuously pumping great water out of the ground.
.


Indeed it is. I always loved the hippies who show up there with milk jugs to fill up.
 
2012-06-10 02:25:39 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

Straight from the Cumberland. Probably why their Hefe is one of the best beers around.
 
2012-06-10 02:27:40 AM

Fleet: [upload.wikimedia.org image 300x174]

Straight from the Cumberland. Probably why their Hefe is one of the best beers around.


beerpulse.com

I love hefeweizen
 
2012-06-10 02:31:02 AM

whidbey: Sabyen91: It might even be cheaper than Steel, though.

A really weird thing is that this beer from Rochester, NY is on sale at the QFC near my house for 1.29 a 24 ounce can.

It's really not that bad at all. Full-bodied. Just wonder why TF it's so cheap? The brewery's over 3000 miles away....

[robsbeercans.com image 480x640]


Cream Ale sounds tasty but I have never had such a thing.
 
2012-06-10 02:31:53 AM

Sabyen91: [legalbeer.com image 640x479]


Two Women ain't bad.
 
2012-06-10 02:32:05 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: [s18.postimage.org image 400x500]

Sewer water


Ah yes, my beverage of choice when I was homeless. Bad times, man, bad times...
 
2012-06-10 02:33:31 AM
was visiting a friend in fort hauchuca and we went up into bisbee. had a fun time up there. Old Bisbee Brewery had some interesting drinks. The place we went to (I honestly dont remember the name of the bar) let us taste all the stuff they had on tap. The apricot-peach was good.

http://www.oldbisbeebrewingcompany.com/
 
2012-06-10 02:34:28 AM
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pretty much... lol
 
2012-06-10 02:34:30 AM
Budweiser gets its water from the Los Angeles water supply. How is this good?
 
2012-06-10 02:34:54 AM
I don't always drink shiatty beer, but when I do, I prefer Budweiser.
 
2012-06-10 02:36:41 AM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Sabyen91: [legalbeer.com image 640x479]

Two Women ain't bad.


I saw that in the cooler last week. Is it hoppy?
 
2012-06-10 02:36:52 AM

Ackbar_GastricFluid: Beer thread!!!1! Any homebrewers out there? Recipes?


Hubby's favorite so far:

http://brewersconnection.com/recipes/ downunderIPA.htm

Besides 20 or so beer recipies, we've done mead, black cherry melomel, sparkling apple wine (champagne yeast...only ones we ever had explode!), and tried hard pear cider. Fun times. Maybe we'll give the old tap water a go next time.
 
2012-06-10 02:38:51 AM

Satosuke: jbc: Real beer snobs wouldn't touch Flat Tire.

I once plunked down 30$ for a rare Belgian lambic and 200$ for Sam Adams Utopias, so I'm most likely a gigantic beer snob...but I quite like Fat Tire. Drinking ten dollar bottles of DIPA or RIS every day would just get old after a while, and you need simple everyday beers like Fat Tire, Yeungling, Magic Hat, or Brooklyn Lager.

Mmmm...Brooklyn Lager. If NYC municipal water is good for them, it's good for us.
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I was actually pleasantly surprised with Fat Tire. I used to be quite the beer snob myself (back when I could still drink. Medical issues prevent that now for the most part). I had originally fallen in love with dark Belgian ales through St. Sebastiaan Dark. Besides, I could always find a use for the jugs afterward.
 
2012-06-10 02:40:51 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: jbc: cheap_thoughts: So I wonder how many beer snobs out there won't touch city water, but will only drink filtered water, and then down 20 Fat Tires. Do they know it's unfiltered city water?

Real beer snobs wouldn't touch Flat Tire.

Sure I will: I'll change a flat tire when I have to.

PS New Belgium's Trippel is good.


agreed!
/drinking one now, I took a sip right as I read your post
 
2012-06-10 02:40:59 AM

Sabyen91: whidbey: Sabyen91: It might even be cheaper than Steel, though.

A really weird thing is that this beer from Rochester, NY is on sale at the QFC near my house for 1.29 a 24 ounce can.

It's really not that bad at all. Full-bodied. Just wonder why TF it's so cheap? The brewery's over 3000 miles away....

[robsbeercans.com image 480x640]

Cream Ale sounds tasty but I have never had such a thing.


Cream ale is good. Milk stout is better.
 
2012-06-10 02:41:10 AM

Sabyen91: whidbey: Sabyen91: It might even be cheaper than Steel, though.

A really weird thing is that this beer from Rochester, NY is on sale at the QFC near my house for 1.29 a 24 ounce can.

It's really not that bad at all. Full-bodied. Just wonder why TF it's so cheap? The brewery's over 3000 miles away....

[robsbeercans.com image 480x640]

Cream Ale sounds tasty but I have never had such a thing.


It's a misnomer at best. It tastes almost exactly like their regular lager. Which is 50 cents more.
 
2012-06-10 02:41:12 AM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Sabyen91: [legalbeer.com image 640x479]

Two Women ain't bad.


i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-06-10 02:41:30 AM

Tracibub: Ackbar_GastricFluid: Beer thread!!!1! Any homebrewers out there? Recipes?

Hubby's favorite so far:

http://brewersconnection.com/recipes/ downunderIPA.htm

Besides 20 or so beer recipies, we've done mead, black cherry melomel, sparkling apple wine (champagne yeast...only ones we ever had explode!), and tried hard pear cider. Fun times. Maybe we'll give the old tap water a go next time.


Your husband is a lucky guy.
 
2012-06-10 02:42:51 AM

shtychkn: Sabyen91: whidbey: Sabyen91: It might even be cheaper than Steel, though.

A really weird thing is that this beer from Rochester, NY is on sale at the QFC near my house for 1.29 a 24 ounce can.

It's really not that bad at all. Full-bodied. Just wonder why TF it's so cheap? The brewery's over 3000 miles away....

[robsbeercans.com image 480x640]

Cream Ale sounds tasty but I have never had such a thing.

Cream ale is good. Milk stout is better.


I don't think I could ever try it. The first time I ever got drunk I had cherry brandy and then I drank some milk.

/You can predict what happened.
 
2012-06-10 02:43:31 AM

whidbey: Sabyen91: whidbey: Sabyen91: It might even be cheaper than Steel, though.

A really weird thing is that this beer from Rochester, NY is on sale at the QFC near my house for 1.29 a 24 ounce can.

It's really not that bad at all. Full-bodied. Just wonder why TF it's so cheap? The brewery's over 3000 miles away....

[robsbeercans.com image 480x640]

Cream Ale sounds tasty but I have never had such a thing.

It's a misnomer at best. It tastes almost exactly like their regular lager. Which is 50 cents more.


Phooey, I was thinking beer+cream soda. I think that would be spectacular.
 
2012-06-10 02:49:54 AM
I home-brewed for the first time last year and I was quite pleased with the results. I just used unfiltered tap water. It was fine. Not the best beer I've ever had, but not terrible either. Now that I've moved I really should get the fermenter out of storage.
 
2012-06-10 02:55:22 AM

thisispete: I home-brewed for the first time last year and I was quite pleased with the results. I just used unfiltered tap water. It was fine. Not the best beer I've ever had, but not terrible either. Now that I've moved I really should get the fermenter out of storage.


No use fermenting air.
 
2012-06-10 02:57:06 AM

Sabyen91: Phooey, I was thinking beer+cream soda. I think that would be spectacular.


I'm not sure why they call it cream ale or cream stout.

I'm guessing it has something to do with the carbonation, that when you pour it the bubbles make the beer seem as if it were like a heavy cream for a couple of minutes.

Maybe some Fark brewing expert could set us straight.
 
2012-06-10 03:03:59 AM
i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-06-10 03:15:10 AM
I suggest you serious beer drinkers attend the Great American Beer Festival next fall in Denver. That's always a good time...I suggest if you are from sea level to drink a lot of water and be nice to the locals but it's a good time and it is always fun to see a lot of people come in to town for the sole purpose of drinking beer.
 
2012-06-10 04:17:08 AM

universebetween: [upload.wikimedia.org image 340x330]


New Castle Brown is excellent and widely available. Too many of the crafts beers taste like the brew master himself peed in the bottle.
 
2012-06-10 04:22:40 AM

Sabyen91: [legalbeer.com image 640x479]


Oh, how I wish that I could get my hands on a cold one of those right now...
 
2012-06-10 04:37:00 AM
www.blindtigeralehouse.com

Great water.
 
2012-06-10 04:37:50 AM

whidbey: Sabyen91: It might even be cheaper than Steel, though.

A really weird thing is that this beer from Rochester, NY is on sale at the QFC near my house for 1.29 a 24 ounce can.

It's really not that bad at all. Full-bodied. Just wonder why TF it's so cheap? The brewery's over 3000 miles away....

[robsbeercans.com image 480x640]


I've always liked Genesse and Little Kings cream ale. Used to find little kings in northern Michigan a lot. Good summer beer when you are out fishing...
 
2012-06-10 04:48:17 AM

malaktaus: OOBE Juan Kenobi: [s18.postimage.org image 400x500]

Sewer water

Ah yes, my beverage of choice when I was homeless. Bad times, man, bad times...




^This.

Unemployed + alcoholic = Steel Reserve.

Or so they tell me.
 
2012-06-10 05:00:46 AM
Seems like a lotta fuss just for beer?
 
2012-06-10 05:01:52 AM
For years I never liked beers, until I started trying various wheat beers. So after I finally developed a taste for it, I moved back to Thailand where I have about 8, affordable, choices. On top of that, ice in your beer to prevent it from going code to piss warm in 2 minutes...
 
2012-06-10 05:14:04 AM
The only thing Budweiser ever succeeded at was making me sick. Awful stuff...

/Guinness or go home
 
2012-06-10 05:46:32 AM
Don't drink anymore but used to like Pilsner Urquell, Heffenweissen, Guiness, Newcastle
 
2012-06-10 06:10:08 AM
Welcome to Coors marketing department in the late 80's.

Water does not make a beer special.
 
2012-06-10 06:11:50 AM

robmilmel: [i180.photobucket.com image 438x295]


/But, I see it was said from the start. :-/
 
2012-06-10 06:17:34 AM
Liffey water = Guinness = proof of the existence of FSM
 
2012-06-10 06:20:26 AM
Its nice to see a local favorite being reached for the article. Deschutes Brewery
 
2012-06-10 06:24:30 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: [s18.postimage.org image 400x500]

Sewer water


That must be the ingredient that makes me somewhat dizzy the next day. Other beers like Budweiser don't do that.
 
2012-06-10 06:33:55 AM

cheap_thoughts: So I wonder how many beer snobs out there won't touch city water, but will only drink filtered water, and then down 20 Fat Tires. Do they know it's unfiltered city water?


Yeah, in Fort Collins, Colorado. They're the first one to touch it coming off the Rockies. Then again, that's the point subby is makking with Keystone and Golden, Colo.

Pro tip: read the label on your next bottle of Pilsner Urquell. If it says "Brewed in Plzen" it's from CZ. If it says "Born in Plzen" it was brewed in either Poland or Russia. They of course say they use the same hops but you can't replicate all that extra goodness the Czecholsovak commies put in the water for 40 years.
 
2012-06-10 07:23:40 AM
Success is the curse of any local craft brew.
 
2012-06-10 07:24:40 AM
meh. i make and sell my own beer.
 
2012-06-10 07:28:23 AM

Ackbar_GastricFluid: Beer thread!!!1! Any homebrewers out there? Recipes?


I farking love Amarillo hops. I do mini-mash or extract brewing because I haven't found time to get into all-grain. Therefore:

1/2 lb crystal 60
1 lb crystal 40
2 oz torrified wheat (doesn't really affect taste, helps with head retention)
6 lb extra light dme
US-05 or Notty yeast

30 minute steep time on the grains. Hops are all Amarillo and are added by this schedule:
1/2 oz at 60 mins
1/2 oz at 15 mins
1 oz at 2 mins
1 oz dry hop one week prior to bottling

Let it age a while in the bottle or in a secondary fermenter. Reminds me of a more citrusy Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.

Also, I love this Irish red.
 
2012-06-10 07:36:06 AM
i477.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-10 07:54:18 AM

Buffet: Seems like a lotta fuss just for beer?


There are probably a couple hundred "native" beers. By native, I mean beer that uses the grain/grain combination, water, and yeast native to an area. Many of those aren't readily available outside their original areas of production. Homebrew or specialty beers are the only practical ways to come close to the taste, so people do it. It's enjoyable to try different beers.

/Personally, I can't believe people knit. There's a lotta fuss for something small.
 
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