whidbey: Branbot: whidbey: Branbot: If you're going to sit here and tell me with a straight face that Obama is not responsible for a single death overseas I think we can end this discussion right here. That's just blind stupidity. This isn't a conspiracy, this is just cold hard facts and you refuse to look at them.

Obama did not initiate two failed unjustified wars that will end up costing this country several trillion dollars, untold casualties and repercussions from anti-American terrorist groups.

That was Bush/Cheney, and I wouldn't be using the word "facts" in a sentence here. They greatly outweigh your laughable contentions.

/lost cause

No, a "lost cause" is trying to have a discussion with someone who doesn't understand what happened the past 10-12 years.

Let me guess, "Ron Paul?" Because that would explain a lot.

Nope, his foreign policy is pure craziness. It sounds like a nice idea but it's a little too late for any of that. I just hate all politicians in general. It's safer that way.

xanadian: Obama is pretty cool, but Biden is like that crazy uncle or even your granddad that you couldn't wait to visit for the hi-jinx.

Lol! I agree. Obama is pretty cool. Reminds me of an uncle I have who would always keep stumbling around with a teleprompter and/or overhead projecter before he spoke to the fam.

Ishkur: Branbot: We're just talking about a handful big al-Qaeda players that could've easily been brought in within just the last few months.

It's not a police action. We're at war. In war you kill the enemy. You only try (and execute) them if they surrender or the war is over.

If you're a terrorist, we will hunt you down and kill you. Without mercy, pause, or contemplation. With efficiency, expediency, and extreme prejudice.

This is something Bush should've been doing for eight years.

Pretty sure we declared both wars over. Plus they were all found in Pakistan.

No pics of Blitzer shivering like a wet pooch?

Relatively Obscure: Branbot: I know of at least 24 Nazi leaders that were tried and executed.

I'm pretty sure there are 24 members of Al Qaeda awaiting trial. So, it should be square.

What? Please direct me to articles on this.

Ishkur: Branbot: We're just talking about a handful big al-Qaeda players that could've easily been brought in within just the last few months.

It's not a police action. We're at war. In war you kill the enemy. You only try (and execute) them if they surrender or the war is over.

If you're a terrorist, we will hunt you down and kill you. Without mercy, pause, or contemplation. With efficiency, expediency, and extreme prejudice.

This is something Bush should've been doing for eight years.


He was doing it, the news just never made a big deal about it. He also was randomly locking up people caught in the battlefield and torturing them.

Obama allowed drone strikes to help expedite the American withdrawal from the region.

whidbey: AliceBToklasLives: whidbey: That was Bush/Cheney,

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Cleaning up the Bush/Cheney foreign policy mess because they left us no other viable choice does not equate to "warmongering."

I love these totally disingenuous arguments.

So destabilizing Pakistan, thereby giving jihadists the opportunity to seize nuclear weapons = "Cleaning up the Bush/Cheney foreign policy mess"

/I mean, if, say, the Soviets had stayed in Afghanistan following some major power shift and extended their war to Pakistan, would we have said they we're cleaning up the mess? Or would we say they ought to end their illegal occupation as soon as possible, and, if nothing else, not bring it to other countries?

Biden forgot to ban the other team from playing Oddjob and they ended up being too hard to target, I see. Yet another Biden gaffe.

Snargi

CNN, I'm surprised. I usually have to go to Huffington Post to see this kind of fluff.

You also think MTV still plays music videos?

skinnycatullus: Branbot: I don't understand how anyone can find a man partially responsible for the death of thousands of people to be harmless and adorable. Farking politicians, they're all cold blooded killers.

I bet you're a blast at parties.

And I don't have an issue with any point you've made, but chill out FFS. Or if you insist on being so concerned about it, get off the goddamn computer and go do something to stop the murderous savages running the country. Spewing venom into a thread about a water gun fight ain't doing shiat except making people hate you.

You're right. I'm just bored at work. Sorry.

wxboy: Branbot: We're just talking about a handful big al-Qaeda players that could've easily been brought in within just the last few months. Instead we just blew them up.

Easily? You go in and get them if you think it's easy.

Well Pakistan is considered our ally so technically it's not like they were in hostile territory.

Relatively Obscure: Branbot: Relatively Obscure: Branbot: I know of at least 24 Nazi leaders that were tried and executed.

I'm pretty sure there are 24 members of Al Qaeda awaiting trial. So, it should be square.

What? Please direct me to articles on this.

You can't possibly have not known this.

I know of members that have been on trial. But none in my recent memory. I'm talking like almost 10 years back. Enlighten me. Information is the key to open up the door right? Edumacate me.

Branbot: AliceBToklasLives: Branbot: I don't understand how anyone can find a man partially responsible for the death of thousands of unpeople to be harmless and adorable. Farking politicians, they're all cold blooded killers.

Haven't the majority of monarchs through human history enjoyed a large measure of popular support? Why would these guys have it any difference?

Back in the day information was hard to come by, you had very few sources to collect it from and most of them were playing to a hidden agenda. Now you have this weird thing called the internet which inhibits our leaders from spreading lies and misinformation. So there's no excuse to know better than to support murderers and liars.

Oh shut the fark up.
It's an article about kids and water guns.

Fark you and the horse you rode in on.

BeSerious: Branbot: AliceBToklasLives: Branbot: I don't understand how anyone can find a man partially responsible for the death of thousands of unpeople to be harmless and adorable. Farking politicians, they're all cold blooded killers.

Haven't the majority of monarchs through human history enjoyed a large measure of popular support? Why would these guys have it any difference?

Back in the day information was hard to come by, you had very few sources to collect it from and most of them were playing to a hidden agenda. Now you have this weird thing called the internet which inhibits our leaders from spreading lies and misinformation. So there's no excuse to know better than to support murderers and liars.

Oh shut the fark up.
It's an article about kids and water guns.

Fark you and the horse you rode in on.

Say that to my face, not online.

Poop.


Poop everywhere.

Biden looking a lot like Jerry Sandusky in that first pic.

Okay, kids, the latest report from the CIA confirms that Wolf Blitzer is now al-Qaeda #2.

Alunan: What have you asshats done to my glorious article?

/subby

Branbot: BeSerious: Branbot: AliceBToklasLives: Branbot: I don't understand how anyone can find a man partially responsible for the death of thousands of unpeople to be harmless and adorable. Farking politicians, they're all cold blooded killers.

Haven't the majority of monarchs through human history enjoyed a large measure of popular support? Why would these guys have it any difference?

Back in the day information was hard to come by, you had very few sources to collect it from and most of them were playing to a hidden agenda. Now you have this weird thing called the internet which inhibits our leaders from spreading lies and misinformation. So there's no excuse to know better than to support murderers and liars.

Oh shut the fark up.
It's an article about kids and water guns.

Fark you and the horse you rode in on.

Say that to my face, not online.

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Gladly, just give me the password to your bunker.
Don't worry, I'll wear my tinfoil hat to protect me from the water guns.

Branbot: Relatively Obscure: Branbot: AliceBToklasLives: whidbey: That was Bush/Cheney,

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I love the fact that everyone is completely okay with us striking these al-Qaeda leaders down with drones. Some of which are American citizens. Instead of bringing them in for a real trial for their war crimes. Even the Nazis got a trial. In the middle of Jewland none the less.

Most Nazis did not get trials.

I know of at least 24 Nazi leaders that were tried and executed. We're just talking about a handful big al-Qaeda players that could've easily been brought in within just the last few months. Instead we just blew them up. Cut out the middle man I guess right? Fark human rights and all. Screw being the better man. KILL EM' ALL! WOOOO!

I can think of 5.53 million that did not receive trials. Link

/mostly agree with you
//Politics tab = argument clinic

wxboy: Branbot: We're just talking about a handful big al-Qaeda players that could've easily been brought in within just the last few months. Instead we just blew them up.

Easily? You go in and get them if you think it's easy.

It's only take six days, maybe six weeks, I doubt even six months

Summoner101: wxboy: Branbot: We're just talking about a handful big al-Qaeda players that could've easily been brought in within just the last few months. Instead we just blew them up.

Easily? You go in and get them if you think it's easy.

It's only take six days, maybe six weeks, I doubt even six months

We would be greeted as liberators

Relatively Obscure:
//Politics tab = argument clinic

No it isn't.

Yes it is.

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An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.

No it isn't.

whidbey: AliceBToklasLives: whidbey: AliceBToklasLives: whidbey: That was Bush/Cheney,

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Cleaning up the Bush/Cheney foreign policy mess because they left us no other viable choice does not equate to "warmongering."

I love these totally disingenuous arguments.

So destabilizing Pakistan, thereby giving jihadists the opportunity to seize nuclear weapons = "Cleaning up the Bush/Cheney foreign policy mess"

/I mean, if, say, the Soviets had stayed in Afghanistan following some major power shift and extended their war to Pakistan, would we have said they we're cleaning up the mess? Or would we say they ought to end their illegal occupation as soon as possible, and, if nothing else, not bring it to other countries?

Again, you're clearly unwilling to understand that said actions were consequences of Bush adminstration policy, and that we had little choice but to deal with the damage, yes even if that means fighting in Pakistan.

Had we not attacked Afghanistan, it wouldn't have been in the least bit necessary. You don't seem to want to understand that we're stuck with it.

Stop electing Republicans and this sh*t will stop happening.

"We're stuck with it" = "We get to continue it".

/I mean, come on, if any other country made that argument, we would call them aggressor that needed to end their aggression by pulling out their damn troops.

LockeOak: Relatively Obscure:
//Politics tab = argument clinic

No it isn't.

Yes it is.

As a matter of fact,every FARK tab harbors a potential argument clinic.

The Politics tab just happens to be the most strident of the lot.

So you're right.

Apos: LockeOak: Relatively Obscure:
//Politics tab = argument clinic

No it isn't.

Yes it is.

As a matter of fact,every FARK tab harbors a potential argument clinic.

The Politics tab just happens to be the most strident of the lot.

So you're right.

No I'm not.

LockeOak: Apos: LockeOak: Relatively Obscure:
//Politics tab = argument clinic

No it isn't.

Yes it is.

As a matter of fact,every FARK tab harbors a potential argument clinic.

The Politics tab just happens to be the most strident of the lot.

So you're right.

No I'm not.

We agree to disagree....Therefore,we agree.

Apos: LockeOak: Apos: LockeOak: Relatively Obscure:
//Politics tab = argument clinic

No it isn't.

Yes it is.

As a matter of fact,every FARK tab harbors a potential argument clinic.

The Politics tab just happens to be the most strident of the lot.

So you're right.

No I'm not.

We agree to disagree....Therefore,we agree.

We most certainly do not.

AliceBToklasLives: whidbey: That was Bush/Cheney,

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So you're saying that in his first year as President, Obama managed to cut civilian deaths from drone attacks by 35%, while at the same time nearly tripling military deaths - and improving the number military kills as a percentage of total kills from an abysmal 41% (less than half under bush?!?) to 75%?

And you're saying this is somehow bad???