Terrydatroll: Just so you know, Jefferson County is in financial trouble because the people and businesses who actually make money are moving out of JC and have been for years because increasing population of African American influence in the county. Along with the successful business goes tax revenue.

No because they got suckered by big bankers to purchase worthless bonds from JP Morgan to 'invest' in to pay off their debt. The racial makeup for the those pushed that choice were mostly white republicans that bought into the investment guys scam from JP Morgan. There's plenty of blame to go around on all sides of the race issue there. The racial makeup of JP Morgan---who is truly at the heart of the issue was never a problem.

teto85: Yep. Get new servers and hire the old IT staff as contractors at an increased rate and prove again how stupid you are. Most of the companies and organizations I have worked in have learned the hard way that "If IT ain't happy, nobody ain't happy."

you left out the part where they hire their brother's wife's consulting firm. who hires the ex-employees and takes a huge cut for the family.

optikeye: Geeze, from the comments apparently they where using a 486 for the server---you'd would have think they would have upgraded that in the couple of decades.

hahaha, ow, my brain.

Lt_Ryan: Weaver95: GAT_00: Hey, what do you know, Republican government policy is completely idiotic and fails horribly.

what I don't get is why organizations don't maintain their infrastructure. you can only outsource so much before things fall apart. and lemme tell ya - SAP is a right bastard if you don't maintain it.

What I don't get is why they even have there own Finance server or much past a network and some basic file/print servers and minimal storage. Articles like these are relatively common which leads me to believe most counties run their own systems. The costs to maintain are in most cases considerably higher than if they outsourced, maybe not to a private group but a consolidated state run facility.

Do you think there is a finance server in the back of every Wal-Mart and other store you walk into? There maybe something in the back so handle local activity but most of the major work is done in consolidated sites. Less hardware, less software, and less staffing, therefore you can run better hardware and hopefully better staffing.

this this and more this
it is all about kick backs to family and friends
most of county business should be rolled into state or city and fire all the rest of those tards

/cook county in illinois? what a waste of sperm

Di Atribe: This is what happens when you cut taxes over & over & over. People lose their jobs & technology suffers & vendors don't get paid. Remember that next time you're biatching about your tax bill.

thank you. had a local republican party leader tell me a bond extension was the same as a tax. and that despite it being needed NO NEW TAXES. that was before and after admitting that the money was going to a worthy cause. one the community would benefit from.

fortunately more of us voted to continue the bond than voted for short term gain.

Lt_Ryan:
Do you think there is a finance server in the back of every Wal-Mart and other store you walk into? There maybe something in the back so handle local activity but most of the major work is done in consolidated sites. Less hardware, less software, and less staffing, therefore you can run better hardware and hopefully better staffing.

well...the issue with government sites is that there are frequently issues with local and state politics that get in the way of a consolidated IT infrastructure. that plus sheer ignorance of IT issues from most high level government people can easily translate into multiple redundant and inefficient networks as well as some rather confused sources of data. the shiny presentation from the nice company that just donated a couple hundred grand to some senator's campaign is probably gonna just get tossed into the mix without much concern for the long term consequences for the folks who have to maintain and run it.

the problem with private networks is that again - you've got a corporate culture that's focused on THIS quarter's earning statements. the IT folks aren't 'adding value' to the corporate bottom line. they're a 'cost center', not a profit center. And in the MBA/accountant universe - you don't improve cost centers, you cut them down to the bone and run bare minimum until you find a way to get rid of them completely. Hence the trend to outsource as much of your core IT functions as humanly possible, regardless of the consequences of said actions. we can sit here and discuss the pros and cons of that thinking all night long, but at the end of the day until the corporate culture of 'faster/cheaper/outsource more' goes away we're going to see more and more IT jobs bleed out overseas.

LasersHurt: You will never, ever go wrong by paying a little extra for a good IT staff and the equipment they need.

You will, however, be a giant dick when you don't give them what they need, then biatch at them when something goes wrong.

my little coding shop has gone through 7 good engineers in the last couple years, out of a total of 10 people. recently our best engineer walked out the door. management wont give any raises and constantly complains and changes directions, its a psychotic place to work. they have no clue how much knowledge they continually let walk out the door. and then they wonder why projects dont get finished. the situation in the article is typical i think of too many organizations. those who dont have a grasp on the reality of IT tend to discount it when everything is going smoothly and they can click their buttons and the machines are humming. then they wonder, gee we spend a bunch on these geeks.. we could save a bunch of money with fewer of them.. i mean geez seems like they just spend all their time on Fark anyway.. and then something goes wrong, and the guys who could probably troubleshoot the problem and fix it right away are'nt there, and the poor saps that are, but dont have the particular knowledge, have to figure things out from scratch, which takes too much time and effort.

// sorry for the ramble.. this article touched a nerve.

Sabyen91: kombat_unit: GAT_00: cman: GAT_00: Hey, what do you know, Republican government policy is completely idiotic and fails horribly.

Same can be said for every government policy in existence

You're ex-military. So you're saying, you are, or rather were, part of the problem?

GAT_00: Wait, so government is the problem unless it's your solution?

Ok, did cman out himself as kombat unit?

Pfft. Everyone knows my alts are GAT_00 and Bathia_Mapes

Sabyen91: Can't go wrong in healthcare if you can handle it. Nurses rarely get downsized.

zzrhardy: Fiction Fan: Just so you know, Jefferson County is in financial trouble because the people and businesses who actually make money are moving out of JC and have been for years because increasing population of African American influence in the county

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I prefer this:


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Ika7734: IT is doing the job right, because they keep stuff up and seem to be invisible.

If you do your job correctly, you're invisible and everything just 'works' and they don't see the need for you and infact for most the time the equipment doesn't need you either as it's stable and working just fine with autoscripts etc.

Occasionally, reach over to the server and turn the power off. Wait for calls and then "OMG, I'm right on it...it should be back up in 30 mins." Take a smoke break switch it back on and you're a god.