red5ish: My most recent book is "Famous But Nameless: Lessons and Inspiration from the Bible's Anonymous Characters (2011).

Will this clear up the question about Cain's wife? Because she just sort of comes out of nowhere.

Cain's wife was named Lucy. Yeah, that Lucy.

Degenz: whidbey: Degenz: whidbey: Degenz: Dood, that Alcatraz thread only shook your mom up badly. Don't be a farking thread troll.

Actually I suspect I was the one being trolled. I ain't even mad.

You don't even have the sense to be mad. You acted like a goddamn fool in the Alcatraz thread and then saw me replying to subby here and shot your hysterical, impulsive wad like a dumbass...yet again.

Why don't you just stfu?

And I see you're projecting again. Well. I tried to break the ice here in another thread. Have fun imagining how those drowned inmates made it to a Libertarian's Paradise!

So you're going to thread troll me and claim some psychological projection bullshiat after insulting higher education?

You're a farking tool. Does your mom know you're using her internet to be such an asstard?

Wow, at least keep up with the narative. Whidbey wasn't born, he was hatched from an egg all on his own on a cold beach facing the Pacific. He's 1/4 leatherback turtle, 1/4 pirate and half ninja.

None of us really know how this happened. But I wouldn't sleep well if I were on his bad side.

Q: Are the morons on Medicare who held up misspelled signs proclaiming "Kep ur hondz off mai docterz" really smart enough to know the difference?

A: your mom is a hooker

I'm sick of politicians sucking up to the "small town values" BS.

This is what small towns values actually are:

1) Low ambition.
2) High levels of ignorance
3) Low levels of curiosity.

If your town was so amazing, more than 500 people would want to live there.

balloot: I have to say - it is quite amusing watching someone try to convince himself that Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, West Virginia, Louisiana, Montana, South Carolina, Kentucky, Alabama, and North Carolina are not overwhelmingly Republican. Good stuff.

It's because of Alaska and Hawaii and the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy and Democrats and furthermore.

The Green Manalishi: The author is a stupid man's idea of what a smart man sounds like.

Ah, the Donnie Darko condition.

PRAY THE POOR AWAY

A common analytical error is the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy-"after this, therefore because of this." For example, chronic federal deficits became chronic in the 1960s. What changed in America at that time? Alaska and Hawaii were added to the union in 1959 and 1960, respectively; therefore, the erroneous assertion to follow is that we need only expel those two states from the Union to solve our deficit spending problem. Absurd, right? Similarly, we can't facilely assume that the lower per capita incomes in the 10 poorest states were caused by Republican policies.

The author is a stupid man's idea of what a smart man sounds like.

Believe, Don't think.

3_Butt_Cheeks: intelligent comment below: dickfreckle: I've been all through California and damn near everywhere else...you folks aren't that special.


Yes, thanks to areas like Orange County where the Southern hicks move to in large numbers. Confederates have infected California since the gold rush.

People are actually fleeing California in droves.

Suuuuure they are. LA is a virtual ghost town.

Degenz: Sabyen91: rohar

He's a farking wanker who pulls shiat out of his ass and pretends he knows what he's talking about. Then when you prove him wrong he criticizes you as a "snob" the way Rick Santorum did to Obama and people who go to college.

Whidbey is the lowest form of intelligence...and an intellectual coward, to boot.

Here's a hint, if you've got me and whidbey on the same side of an issue, you're a world class dick. It only happens about twice a year. It's awesome when it happens, but when it does both of us know the person that made it happen is off their meds.

Find help.

whidbey: Pharque-it: Why doesn't "trickle down" work in republican controlled states? Hmm...? They should be super-rich now after so many years.

They would be rich, but all the poor people won't put down the remote from their flat-screen TVs and get a job. Never mind that there aren't any jobs, but they should still be looking.
Amirite?

Meh. They are just not bootstrappy enough. They could start a watermelon business or something. Or selling Jesus dolls.

Why doesn't "trickle down" work in republican controlled states? Hmm...? They should be super-rich now after so many years.

ghare: Slavery has been over for a while.

Here's the perfect example of what I'm talking about. The poor states cry about how they're still reeling from the effects of losing slavery, but when I suggest African Americans might be feeling some pain too, suddenly it's all "hey, slavery has been over for a while."

whidbey: tarkus1980: kliq: I'm sick of politicians sucking up to the "small town values" BS.

This is what small towns values actually are:

1) Low ambition.
2) High levels of ignorance
3) Low levels of curiosity.

If your town was so amazing, more than 500 people would want to live there.

Stealing.

Actually those three points fit my small town to a "T" and sh*tloads of people keep moving here. Unfortunately, they're all retirees.

Well, all the other three can be loosely summarized as "Waiting for death", so you're still covered.

kliq: I'm sick of politicians sucking up to the "small town values" BS.

This is what small towns values actually are:

1) Low ambition.
2) High levels of ignorance
3) Low levels of curiosity.

If your town was so amazing, more than 500 people would want to live there.

...I really do hate stereotyping small town people like that. I honestly think everybody can learn from everybody else. But Christ on a crutch do most small town "folk" try my patience. That simple, faux-courteous passive aggression might have fooled city-dwellers 50 years ago but not anymore. Everybody knows what "bless your heart" really means now!

And I know exactly what you mean by politicians pandering to it. The last few election cycles have pretty much opened up the "Small Town Buzzword" Dictionary for all to see. "Strong family values" = "Make sure your kids think exactly like you and never exercise independent thought." "Faith-based" = "You better pray the same way I do so help me God!" "Common-sense" = "What I'm about to say can be easily refuted in any good textbook so let's do away with good textbooks." "Real America" = "Ha, ha, nice try, people with any kind of skin color." And so forth and so on.

Don't believe me, small towners? Google "dog whistles" and ignore all the links about those small metal dog things.

Guidette Frankentits:
The counties that voted in orange voted no on a cigarette tax of 1 dollar. California, the supposed libbiest libs whoever libbed state. LA, the epitome of welfare-state and big government voted NO on it.

Also, the votes are still being counted as of today - some counties haven't turned in their final tallies, and by late Thursday almost 830,000 hadn't been counted yet, mostly mail-in and provisional ballots.

Hopefully most of those votes were cast before the tobacco companies started sh*tting up the airwaves. All it takes is one vote. It ain't over yet.

Cuchulane: I don't think the cause is political parties as much as something else.

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That's obviously a shoop. I can tell because it says "Baptist Church" on it and it's smaller than 3 acres.

/or those are really big doors

Jim_Callahan: Um, from the article:

Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, West Virginia, Louisiana, Montana, South Carolina, Kentucky, Alabama, and North Carolina.

You want to make the case that these don't count as Republican states?

Really?

Really?

Arkanaut: AMonkey'sUncle: red5ish: My most recent book is "Famous But Nameless: Lessons and Inspiration from the Bible's Anonymous Characters (2011).

Will this clear up the question about Cain's wife? Because she just sort of comes out of nowhere.

Cain's wife was named Lucy. Yeah, that Lucy.

The one with some 'splainin' to do, or the one in the sky with diamonds?

The one who pulls up the football at the last second every time Charlie Brown tries to kick it.

atomic-age: The Green Manalishi: The author is a stupid man's idea of what a smart man sounds like.

Newt Gingrich wrote it?

Pasty white man: Check
"Academic" credentials: Check
Pompousness: Check

Yes, Newt Gingrich wrote it.

AMonkey'sUncle: red5ish: My most recent book is "Famous But Nameless: Lessons and Inspiration from the Bible's Anonymous Characters (2011).

Will this clear up the question about Cain's wife? Because she just sort of comes out of nowhere.

Cain's wife was named Lucy. Yeah, that Lucy.

The one with some 'splainin' to do, or the one in the sky with diamonds?

I can't wait until Republicans aren't too busy pointing fingers (and flipping middle one) to help fix the problems.

haha... like that is going to happen.

Didn't you know? Everything wrong is the fault of liberals. They're purposely trying to destroy Jesus Christ/America because they hate freedom.

And if a Republican gets caught doing something so stupid/evil/corrupt that they actually have to apologize, it's still the liberals' fault, because a Republican who did something wrong was just acting like a liberal.

Did... did he just blame modern Democrats for slavery and 150 years of systemic poverty in minority communities?

kukukupo: Just being the devil's advocate here :

Wealth is relative. I could have 100,000 and be rich in the Midwest and I would be poor in California.

True, but if you don't have a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of like the South you're poor everywhere.

I don't by the slavery angle for a second. The current crop (no pun intended) of poor Southern Republicans look like they're incapable of managing a goldfish to not die, let along a slave to grow cotton.

This is what Wisconsin will be saying in a few years once the Koch Brothers and Scott Walker have gotten done looting and pillaging their state.

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: My most recent book is "Famous But Nameless: Lessons and Inspiration from the Bible's Anonymous Characters.

That's gonna be a page-turner.

I especially liked his blog post about the Curley Effect. He takes this list of cities: "Perhaps you have seen the chain e-mail listing the ten poorest U.S. cities with a population of at least 250,000: Detroit, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Miami, St. Louis, El Paso, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Newark" and decides that the common reason for their poverty is Democratic mayors hating Job Creators and subsequent white flight.

o_O

The various reasons for the decline of those cities is so huge and varied that it just boggles the mind that he could even paper over them with this simplistic thesis. Oh... wait... never mind.

It's the Democrats' fault that they don't head-slap the TeaPublicans every time they bring up Supply Side Jesus and his voodoo economics.