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2012-06-09 06:44:30 PM  

Ringshadow: I'm enjoying that you people somehow think primary coolant is anywhere near "outside", let alone could get outside in the first place.

Nuclear power does not work that way.

/unless you somehow break entirely through containment I guess


You mean all the nukcleor material isn't just sitting in the bottom of the cooling towers covered by water?

"You people" What you tryin to say there smart head?
 
2012-06-09 06:46:14 PM  

Mike_LowELL: duskglow2000: Sometimes I wish the conspiracy theories were true. It would be a way more interesting world. Of course, 99% of them aren't and the other 1% are only part true.

[images.wikia.com image 249x401]

"Just shut up and listen for a second. Christ, JC, this kind of behavior, not to mention your brother's defection, is making certain powerful people very nervous. Nervous about you. You understand the importance of loyalty, don't you?"


Loved that game.
 
2012-06-09 06:48:13 PM  

Misha80: You mean all the nukcleor material isn't just sitting in the bottom of the cooling towers covered by water?

"You people" What you tryin to say there smart head?


Meh. Usually I'm of better humor in these threads. I'm just kinda burned out on it right now I guess.
 
2012-06-09 06:49:23 PM  
Nuclear disaster?

Damn, somebody re-used one of those AOL floppies again.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-09 07:11:48 PM  
Do you know what this means? Lord John Whorfin has returned from the 8th dimension!!

/Not my damn planet
 
2012-06-09 07:13:33 PM  

wambu: Nuclear disaster?

Damn, somebody re-used one of those AOL floppies again.

[i.imgur.com image 300x169]


Jesus...we're just one ZetZero install away from world dest-
 
2012-06-09 07:14:10 PM  
Sigh fail...Net...dammit...

/Previewed it and STILL failed
 
2012-06-09 07:14:59 PM  
Hangar 18. I know too much.
 
2012-06-09 07:25:16 PM  

Sliding Carp: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Fermi just found the Higgs,

I don't think so. You can check their webcams here , and I don't see any partying going on.


bravo.
 
2012-06-09 07:27:45 PM  
I've been following this clusterfark on reddit since it originated yesterday, mostly out of some horrible personal flaw of liking to watch people psychologically implode.

The theories regarding this 'incident' have gone from nuclear coverup to THE FLARE THAT'S GONNA KILL US ALL (starring the lead conspiracist, OCDtrigger, in a role previously made famous by Nicholas Cage). Actual nuclear technicians and other assorted logical sorts have torn apart the 'evidence' in a systemic and unregarded fashion.

It's all bullshiat.

But it is glorious bullshiat.
 
2012-06-09 07:58:00 PM  
Something Awful has been following this since the original Reddit post which got this all started, and tracking it as it makes it way through the poorly-fact checked media.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3489360

All of the evidence is from one instrument, which got reported to two websites. (But two sites means it's confirmed!) Also the same websites which were reliable sources when they reported the spike instantly became unreliable sources when they said that it was a faulty detector.
 
2012-06-09 08:41:47 PM  

Grables'Daughter: So, what should I do?


images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-06-09 08:42:16 PM  

Stratohead: and a C-130 airframe...which for the tinfoil hat set could be a gunship I suppose.


Not to be a crazy, but there are gunship versions of the C-130. They're called the AC-130H Spectre and AC-130U Spooky.
 
2012-06-09 09:04:58 PM  

chuckufarlie: bongmiester: GAT_00: bongmiester: Click on site 18:

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

Radiation does not spike and immediately fade like that.

if radiation lost containment, then containment was restored it seems to me that a spike is exactly what would be seen

No, when containment was restored, there would still be residual radiation in the air. It would take some time to fade.


Radiation does not work this way. Fallout, yes, but not nuclear decay.
 
2012-06-09 09:42:08 PM  
Well, I queried the data from the EPA site, and it's all still there as far as I can tell.

go to https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/query.do and move 'Beta Gross Count Rate' from the left box to the right. Next, in the 'Fixed Monitor Location' box, select 'IN: Fort Wayne'. For Time Range Criteria, I have it set for 6/2 - 6/9. Press Submt.

You can even download the excel spreadsheet of the data - over that time period there are some pretty high 'spikes' indeed. And no censorship that I can tell - the data is there. Is it the right data? Beats me.
 
2012-06-09 10:01:00 PM  
i think this graph is trying to spell something

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/chartx.html?id=64
 
2012-06-09 10:36:26 PM  
Hmmm, explosions, radiation detected, military maneuvers... sounds like training for invading Iran.
 
2012-06-09 11:00:31 PM  
It might have been yesterday, or the day before, but I saw 3 Chinooks flying in formation over Morgantown, WV, around noonish. Weird.
 
2012-06-09 11:47:11 PM  

bongmiester: Wulfman: Clearly there is an out of control radiation beam that is spinning around and around. Sometimes it points right at the detector and sometimes it points away.

right round, baby right round like a record, baby right round, round, round


i48.tinypic.com

/It's all the hair bands' fault
 
2012-06-10 12:54:12 AM  

Viljo Tawast: it took, like three seconds to google "Indiana radiation" to resolve this.

The data spike was caused by an equipment failure or at least, that's what the MiB are tell us.


Holy shiat, some genius figured out how to use Google, and miraculously came up with the simplest reference that doesn't answer anything, and generously deigned to proclaim it to the masses! LIKE HOLY CRAPCRACKERS, HOW OFTEN DOES THAT HAPPEN?!!?!?
 
2012-06-10 01:39:51 AM  

Ringshadow: I'm enjoying that you people somehow think primary coolant is anywhere near "outside", let alone could get outside in the first place.

Nuclear power does not work that way.

/unless you somehow break entirely through containment I guess


Does anyone fact check before they open there mouths? Or type with there fingers in this case. At 3/4's of US nuclear plants radioactive tritium has been found to have leaked into groundwater. Check it out for yourself from the tin-foilers at MSNBC.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43475479/ ns/us_news-environment/t/radioac t ive-tritium-leaks-found-us-nuke-sites/
 
2012-06-10 01:42:41 AM  

Stratohead: Radiation like what happened to the plant in Fukushima doesn't just spike then vanish that quickly it tends to linger around for a very long time...partly because it likes to ir-radiate everything it touches.
I don't see any A-10s in the photos...I see what could be Chinooks ..and a C-130 airframe...which for the tinfoil hat set could be a gunship I suppose... but either thats a training exercise or its the military transporting things, or transferring aircraft. The C-130 was probably present to refuel the Chinooks

Link

Link

this kinda shiat happens all the time...it's part of fighting active wars.

When I lived in Nashville, I'd work out in Smyrna and watch the 180th Airlift wing's C-130's doing training runs nearby, combat landings...no stop drops...occasionally popping flares...it was cool...but hardly ominous if you know what you are looking at.



Nearest one to Fukushima
 
2012-06-10 01:47:58 AM  

zac_theman: Ringshadow: I'm enjoying that you people somehow think primary coolant is anywhere near "outside", let alone could get outside in the first place.

Nuclear power does not work that way.

/unless you somehow break entirely through containment I guess

Does anyone fact check before they open there mouths? Or type with there fingers in this case. At 3/4's of US nuclear plants radioactive tritium has been found to have leaked into groundwater. Check it out for yourself from the tin-foilers at MSNBC.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43475479/ ns/us_news-environment/t/radioac t ive-tritium-leaks-found-us-nuke-sites/


I knew this off hand since I live in the leaky tritium Nuclear Bermuda triangle between Braidwood, Dresden and Lasalle County Nuclear Power plants. For good measure I do all my boating at Clinton Lake, home of the Clinton Lake Nuclear generating station. However Clinton Lake is a much more modern plant then the other 3 and has a far better safety record.
P.S. The Byron Nuclear facility here in Illinois had an incident that required venting not that long ago.
 
2012-06-10 02:00:21 AM  
Okay, first of all tritium is so pansy ass you need special monitoring equipment to find it. It has to be distilled out of the water. It's so weak it's a pain in the ass to find.

Second of all, hydrogen is really fsking hard to keep in a system. You could have an entirely watertight system and you'll still get hydrogen escaping. And that's the trick of tritium. Which CAN occur naturally by the way.

Either way, we're not exactly talking actual primary freaking coolant here. If it was you'd be finding the more whammo bammo isotopes alongside it.

/it's all fun and games until cobalt 60 comes to play
 
2012-06-10 02:15:43 AM  

Ringshadow: Okay, first of all tritium is so pansy ass you need special monitoring equipment to find it. It has to be distilled out of the water. It's so weak it's a pain in the ass to find.

Second of all, hydrogen is really fsking hard to keep in a system. You could have an entirely watertight system and you'll still get hydrogen escaping. And that's the trick of tritium. Which CAN occur naturally by the way.

Either way, we're not exactly talking actual primary freaking coolant here. If it was you'd be finding the more whammo bammo isotopes alongside it.

/it's all fun and games until cobalt 60 comes to play


Cesium-137 and Stontium-90 have been found with Tritium however in instances and I do realize that Hyrodgen molecules (and Tritium by default) are nearly impossible to contain. However the US government made Exelon buy all the homes by Braidwood where it leaked into the groundwater due to the high concentrations of it found in the drinking wells. I however am convinced none of it is as dangerous as radioactive cat litter.
 
2012-06-10 02:21:45 AM  

zac_theman: Ringshadow: Okay, first of all tritium is so pansy ass you need special monitoring equipment to find it. It has to be distilled out of the water. It's so weak it's a pain in the ass to find.

Second of all, hydrogen is really fsking hard to keep in a system. You could have an entirely watertight system and you'll still get hydrogen escaping. And that's the trick of tritium. Which CAN occur naturally by the way.

Either way, we're not exactly talking actual primary freaking coolant here. If it was you'd be finding the more whammo bammo isotopes alongside it.

/it's all fun and games until cobalt 60 comes to play

Cesium-137 and Stontium-90 have been found with Tritium however in instances and I do realize that Hyrodgen molecules (and Tritium by default) are nearly impossible to contain. However the US government made Exelon buy all the homes by Braidwood where it leaked into the groundwater due to the high concentrations of it found in the drinking wells. I however am convinced none of it is as dangerous as radioactive cat litter.


Strontium-90 I mean or did I just invent a new element?
 
2012-06-10 02:21:58 AM  

zac_theman: I however am convinced none of it is as dangerous as radioactive cat litter.


Well, is ANYTHING as dangerous as radioactive cat litter? Good god man that could end society as we know it!
 
2012-06-10 02:27:35 AM  

durgledoggy: Nothing in Indiana, but the Davis-Besse plant in Ohio had a small unexpected coolant leak yesterday.


pretty damn sure that any coolant leak is unexpected. but nothing we don't prepare for.
 
2012-06-10 02:35:59 AM  

Ringshadow: zac_theman: I however am convinced none of it is as dangerous as radioactive cat litter.

Well, is ANYTHING as dangerous as radioactive cat litter? Good god man that could end society as we know it!


On a side note they are currently setting up the Clinton Lake plant to produce medical use Cobalt-60 during the current shut down. Having a nuclear lake is great, when the plant is running the lake will be 103 degrees on the spillway side. You can basically choose where to swim based on desired water temp.
 
2012-06-10 02:42:10 AM  

Ringshadow: I'm enjoying that you people somehow think primary coolant is anywhere near "outside", let alone could get outside in the first place.

Nuclear power does not work that way.

/unless you somehow break entirely through containment I guess


and i'm pretty damn sure if you break through all levels of containment, we're not going to be getting them back any damn time soon. just saying.

now, 'tards with radiography sources... i have no control over them.
 
2012-06-10 02:46:08 AM  
So what's the black stuff they've found in Tokyo?

Another article from the same site says lots of foreigners are leaving Japan, especially Eastern Japan....well duh! I wouldn't live there if I had a choice!
 
2012-06-10 02:48:20 AM  

zac_theman: Ringshadow: I'm enjoying that you people somehow think primary coolant is anywhere near "outside", let alone could get outside in the first place.

Nuclear power does not work that way.

/unless you somehow break entirely through containment I guess

Does anyone fact check before they open there mouths? Or type with there fingers in this case. At 3/4's of US nuclear plants radioactive tritium has been found to have leaked into groundwater. Check it out for yourself from the tin-foilers at MSNBC.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43475479/ ns/us_news-environment/t/radioac t ive-tritium-leaks-found-us-nuke-sites/


here's a shock. we can't contain everything. the epa gives us a limit on releases. EVERY DAY we release all sorts of nasty shiat to your water supply and your air and you don't even farking know it.

the tritium is a different issue. its not a "leak" persay, it's the interaction of the radioactive particles with particles outside of the system. Unless all systems at the plant were made out of 3 feet of lead and concrete, those nasty little neutrons and gammas get out and fark with the atoms on the otherside of the pipe. (this is speaking of commercial us lightwater plants)

holy balls.
 
2012-06-10 02:51:17 AM  

zac_theman: zac_theman: Ringshadow: I'm enjoying that you people somehow think primary coolant is anywhere near "outside", let alone could get outside in the first place.

Nuclear power does not work that way.

/unless you somehow break entirely through containment I guess

Does anyone fact check before they open there mouths? Or type with there fingers in this case. At 3/4's of US nuclear plants radioactive tritium has been found to have leaked into groundwater. Check it out for yourself from the tin-foilers at MSNBC.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43475479/ ns/us_news-environment/t/radioac t ive-tritium-leaks-found-us-nuke-sites/

I knew this off hand since I live in the leaky tritium Nuclear Bermuda triangle between Braidwood, Dresden and Lasalle County Nuclear Power plants. For good measure I do all my boating at Clinton Lake, home of the Clinton Lake Nuclear generating station. However Clinton Lake is a much more modern plant then the other 3 and has a far better safety record.
P.S. The Byron Nuclear facility here in Illinois had an incident that required venting not that long ago.


I don't get the midwest. it's really odd that there is so much of a tritium problem there. Must be a ground elemental make up or something. that or exelon is just a horrible mess. oh wait....
 
2012-06-10 02:54:00 AM  

zac_theman: Ringshadow: zac_theman: I however am convinced none of it is as dangerous as radioactive cat litter.

Well, is ANYTHING as dangerous as radioactive cat litter? Good god man that could end society as we know it!

On a side note they are currently setting up the Clinton Lake plant to produce medical use Cobalt-60 during the current shut down. Having a nuclear lake is great, when the plant is running the lake will be 103 degrees on the spillway side. You can basically choose where to swim based on desired water temp.


103? is that an increase for y'all? because for us down here in the south, not so much....
 
2012-06-10 02:58:02 AM  

zac_theman: zac_theman: Ringshadow: Okay, first of all tritium is so pansy ass you need special monitoring equipment to find it. It has to be distilled out of the water. It's so weak it's a pain in the ass to find.

Second of all, hydrogen is really fsking hard to keep in a system. You could have an entirely watertight system and you'll still get hydrogen escaping. And that's the trick of tritium. Which CAN occur naturally by the way.

Either way, we're not exactly talking actual primary freaking coolant here. If it was you'd be finding the more whammo bammo isotopes alongside it.

/it's all fun and games until cobalt 60 comes to play

Cesium-137 and Stontium-90 have been found with Tritium however in instances and I do realize that Hyrodgen molecules (and Tritium by default) are nearly impossible to contain. However the US government made Exelon buy all the homes by Braidwood where it leaked into the groundwater due to the high concentrations of it found in the drinking wells. I however am convinced none of it is as dangerous as radioactive cat litter.

Strontium-90 I mean or did I just invent a new element?


absolutely exelon should be held accountable for increased tritium. why you say? because they did it. Hey, this is america and we make science fun. just because it had some unanticipated groundwater contamination, etc. no worse than your average superfund site.

and as the owner of 3 cats, i only purchase radioactive cat litter. it really does make the difference.
 
2012-06-10 11:27:22 AM  

namatad: did you miss the explosions in japan after the tsunami??


OMG the government is covering up a tsunami in Indiana!
 
2012-06-10 12:19:43 PM  

sec81584: zac_theman: zac_theman: Ringshadow: Okay, first of all tritium is so pansy ass you need special monitoring equipment to find it. It has to be distilled out of the water. It's so weak it's a pain in the ass to find.

Second of all, hydrogen is really fsking hard to keep in a system. You could have an entirely watertight system and you'll still get hydrogen escaping. And that's the trick of tritium. Which CAN occur naturally by the way.

Either way, we're not exactly talking actual primary freaking coolant here. If it was you'd be finding the more whammo bammo isotopes alongside it.

/it's all fun and games until cobalt 60 comes to play

Cesium-137 and Stontium-90 have been found with Tritium however in instances and I do realize that Hyrodgen molecules (and Tritium by default) are nearly impossible to contain. However the US government made Exelon buy all the homes by Braidwood where it leaked into the groundwater due to the high concentrations of it found in the drinking wells. I however am convinced none of it is as dangerous as radioactive cat litter.

Strontium-90 I mean or did I just invent a new element?

absolutely exelon should be held accountable for increased tritium. why you say? because they did it. Hey, this is america and we make science fun. just because it had some unanticipated groundwater contamination, etc. no worse than your average superfund site.

and as the owner of 3 cats, i only purchase radioactive cat litter. it really does make the difference.


i198.photobucket.com

Seemed appropriate
 
2012-06-10 12:26:01 PM  
I saw this on some show the other day. Little photographer, Carlos from Mexico, was selling photoshopped pics to some small media outlet in Mex (local newspaper?). American detectives stepped in and said that pixelation you see around the subject: PHOTOSHOPPED. AND CARLOS IS LYING.
So the media outlet got their own expert on the situation (carlito was obv their fav kid). He said that pixelation is normal. And as for the deviation in Mr. Carlos' story regarding the time of the shot photos with the timestamp of the pics: The aliens obviously changed that.
Can't remember what show that was...Anyway, same thing here:
i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-06-10 05:29:01 PM  

SweetBabyJebus: That site looked really legit. It even had comments that say they were posted 2-3 hours from now.

Reading those comments I was just waiting for someone to start talking about holographic moons, chemtrails, annunaki, nibiru, and the new world order.


Yep. The hardest part about trying to sift the truth from all the disinformation out there is that a lot of folks who claim to be doing just that, are in fact completely nuts.
 
2012-06-10 06:25:09 PM  

duskglow2000: Sometimes I wish the conspiracy theories were true. It would be a way more interesting world. Of course, 99% of them aren't and the other 1% are only part true

are too boring to care about.
 
2012-06-10 06:59:18 PM  

Ecobuckeye: I've noticed Chinooks on three occasions in NW Ohio in the last two weeks. I thought it was odd, but mostly interesting as I love watching those things fly. I need to do a better job of recognizing obvious government coverups in progress and recording videos to youtube.

A-10s and F-16s used to fly over our house daily. The F-16s were like clockwork, 10:00 every morning, northwest to southeast. The A-10s were a little less frequent. Anyhow, I guess I'm just saying that these things fly by all the time. The booms (admittedly, I didn't watch the linked vid) could certainly have been quarry blasting.


Maybe it has something to do with a C-17 buzzing me on a highway in the middle of nowhere for no clear reason. There couldn't have been anything bigger than a farm landing strip nearby and I know there weren't any Air Force bases less than an hour drive away.
 
2012-06-10 07:29:16 PM  

Tobin_Lam: Maybe it has something to do with a C-17 buzzing me on a highway in the middle of nowhere for no clear reason. There couldn't have been anything bigger than a farm landing strip nearby and I know there weren't any Air Force bases less than an hour drive away.


Maybe it wasn't looking for someplace to land Link
 
2012-06-11 10:38:36 AM  
tl;dr

i.ytimg.com

-At least... we got... Terre Haute, India... na.
-Damn! They were just about to get a public library.
 
2012-06-13 05:43:40 AM  
An article on it says:

Thousands of comments on articles, discussion boards, and twitter posts are surfacing regarding this event. Explosions are still reportedly being heard in rapid secession, often a large number over the course of only a few seconds.


Yes.

The explosions seceded from the Union.

/facepalm
 
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