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2012-06-09 03:02:38 PM

zippolight2002: ytterbium: I live pretty much right there and I just got back from town. While we were there, the town sirens went off and several police cars and unmarked squads went flying down the road.

/probably that drill dugitman was talking about, although why they would pick the first busy Saturday of the season is beyond me

I would guess because if there was any actual panic, it wouldn't be a good test of their preparedness if the entire town/area was practically empty.


Good point. Glad we left when we did.

So when I clicked 18 on the map, nothing showed up. Am I gonna die? If so, immediate-glowing-goo dead or slow-teeth-falling-out dead?
 
2012-06-09 03:03:59 PM

Tony_Pepperoni: [i.imgur.com image 640x362]


and this is why i love Fark!!!
 
2012-06-09 03:04:37 PM
Fixed links:

Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
 
2012-06-09 03:04:58 PM

Grables'Daughter: bongmiester: Click on site 18:

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

Um, that's like 45 minutes from where I live.


Come on down to Crane, it's totes safe I swear
 
2012-06-09 03:05:12 PM

Grables'Daughter: chuckufarlie: Grables'Daughter: Grables'Daughter: bongmiester: Click on site 18:

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

Um, that's like 45 minutes from where I live.

So, what should I do?

The graph on that website shows a spike TWO DAYS ago. There is nothing you can do but call your loved ones (who do not live in your area) and say goodbye.

Then you can all sit around at Thanksgiving and laugh. You not as much as everybody else.

You Farkers are slipping.

I completely expected a snarky response like "Take off all of your clothes and get up onto the roof of your house as soon as possible."


I kinda figured you did that all the time anyway.
 
2012-06-09 03:05:42 PM

Grables'Daughter: chuckufarlie: Grables'Daughter: Grables'Daughter: bongmiester: Click on site 18:

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

Um, that's like 45 minutes from where I live.

So, what should I do?

The graph on that website shows a spike TWO DAYS ago. There is nothing you can do but call your loved ones (who do not live in your area) and say goodbye.

Then you can all sit around at Thanksgiving and laugh. You not as much as everybody else.

You Farkers are slipping.

I completely expected a snarky response like "Take off all of your clothes and get up onto the roof of your house as soon as possible."


we figured that this had already happened ...
:D
 
2012-06-09 03:07:22 PM

Calabai_Yau: Fixed links:

Link 1
Link 2
Link 3


Messed up my post a little, these links are Reddit threads that started yesterday. There is a ton of information in there as they try to figure out what's happening. The conclusions are the end seem to lean towards a solar event.
 
2012-06-09 03:07:55 PM
So early in the morning of June 7, there were 3,500 cocks per minute?
Man, they were tearing that up.
 
2012-06-09 03:08:52 PM

KrispyKritter: WTF, is the plant so far away from civilization that no townsfolk are out and about seeing events unfold? if something of significance took place, wouldn't the major news networks have ground crews and Chopper Four reporting on it?

seems these days you can't trip on a cracked sidewalk without some dooshbag posting it on YouTube. one would think zombie aliens attacking a nuke plant may receive a little attention from the locals.


The town is in on it and closed off. Like the Tommyknockers.
 
2012-06-09 03:09:51 PM
nothing to see here, move on. Those of you wearing tinfoil hats may hang around.


5:59 a.m. EDT, June 9, 2012

SOUTH BEND -- Some people were alarmed after a website reported readings indicating that radiation levels were at a catastrophic level in South Bend.

The owner of the company that owns the site that monitors radiation across the U.S. told WSBT that the readings reported Wednesday and early Thursday on the Radiation Network site were a false alarm.

MineraLab owner Tim Flanegin says the readings appeared to be caused by an equipment malfunction.

Officials at the Environmental Protection Agency and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission told the station their radiation readings were normal.
 
2012-06-09 03:12:18 PM
Also here:

Update: 6/7/12, 7:45 A.M: - False Alert: The alert level reading last evening appears to be a false alert from an equipment malfunction. Here is the station's report:

"out of control readings on the GeigerGraph screen from about 11:30pm local time that occurred while sleeping. My apologies to all. I have no idea what caused this. Shut down GeigerGraph and restarted. Readings from the Geiger were in the normal range (the Geiger operates on A/C). All cable connections are tight and not loose. Am speculating between the GFI and USB Adapter and some sort of voltage spikes. The uninterruptable power supply UPS had lost power and had died - a tripped GFI. I am not going to leave the system running while not at home until I can determine and fix the problem."
 
2012-06-09 03:16:07 PM

Grables'Daughter: chuckufarlie: Grables'Daughter: Grables'Daughter: bongmiester: Click on site 18:

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

Um, that's like 45 minutes from where I live.

So, what should I do?

The graph on that website shows a spike TWO DAYS ago. There is nothing you can do but call your loved ones (who do not live in your area) and say goodbye.

Then you can all sit around at Thanksgiving and laugh. You not as much as everybody else.

You Farkers are slipping.

I completely expected a snarky response like "Take off all of your clothes and get up onto the roof of your house as soon as possible."


I'd rather you get up on the roof of MY house, but I can dream, can't I?

And my dungeon... erm... Basement is rather comfy this time of year, with the temps already hitting 90... Go outside in this heat? Are you nuts?
 
2012-06-09 03:21:01 PM

Grables'Daughter: Vacation Bible School: Grables'Daughter: Grables'Daughter: bongmiester: Click on site 18:

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

Um, that's like 45 minutes from where I live.

So, what should I do?

go take a look.

If you sprout an extra arm, go see Moira Brown.

Can't this afternoon.

I'm about to leave for a cancer fundraiser.


why would you want to support cancer?
 
2012-06-09 03:21:32 PM
I'm not a nuclear scientist, I majored in computer sci and business with a minor in gynecology. Well that was more of an independent study for no credit. But usually.... usually, with nuclear thingees big enough to make a boom to be heard that far away there are also bright flashes. Otherwise it has to be buried in a very deep pit to hide the flash.

I'm also not a psychologist (see above disclaimer) but some of you farkers are nutz. Except GrablesDaughter who needs further study. If the ship hits the sand darling and there is a major nuclear incident, feel free to stay at my place for a while. White sand beaches less than an hour away. Whiskey, rum, wine, and mixers are kept at disaster supplies level. But I make sure there is a turnover so none of it gets stale.
 
2012-06-09 03:27:46 PM

dugitman: A couple months ago I remember reading a local story about FEMA or DHS running a dirty bomb disaster drill in Michiana this summer. Unfortunately I cant find any mention of it now- so yeah, it's probably aliens. Or the govt. fighting aliens.


It's a drill on how to deal with a MASSIVE INTERNET HOAX. These denial skills don't just happen naturally- they've gotta be drilled into you.
 
2012-06-09 03:42:08 PM
It's a sales pitch.

Pure and simple.
 
2012-06-09 03:44:45 PM

jfarkinB: crabsno termites: FTA: "dozens of organic comments "

WTF are "organic" comments?

Manure-based, as opposed to petrochemical-based.


Chem background so dispute the definition, but well played, Sir.
 
2012-06-09 03:47:11 PM

CultureVulture: I'm also not a psychologist (see above disclaimer) but some of you farkers are nutz. Except GrablesDaughter who needs further study. If the ship hits the sand darling and there is a major nuclear incident, feel free to stay at my place for a while. White sand beaches less than an hour away. Whiskey, rum, wine, and mixers are kept at disaster supplies level. But I make sure there is a turnover so none of it gets stale.


too far
 
2012-06-09 03:47:26 PM
Will my tin foilhat stop this kind of radiation too?
 
2012-06-09 03:49:00 PM
"Note: Spikes or high readings do not necessarily indicate high radiation level readings. Stations are privately run and data accuracy is not guaranteed. If one station reads high but nearby stations show normal readings, then it was probably a glitch."
 
2012-06-09 03:51:39 PM
You don't understand, each visiting alien ship that breaks our atmosphere for one of these "drop-off" events leaves hundreds of new alien arrivals on Earth. They now have to assimilate as Hoosiers, most pretending to be nuclear plant workers.
 
2012-06-09 03:54:02 PM
It's the Piney Woods Incident all over again Link

This is what they recovered back then Link
 
2012-06-09 03:54:19 PM

Inquisitive Inquisitor: Exercise. That's the radiation signature of a test kit designed to trigger radiation alarms. Quick puff of impregnated air within a confined space creates an immediate spike in "local" radiation, which marks the start of the containment exercise. Almost immediately after the alarm is triggered the test sample dissipates and the sensor returns to normal limits.

If it were an actual breach of containment then the local sample would remain significantly higher, even if the breach were immediately sealed.


Gotdammitsomuch! How are we supposed to get all fired up about plinking zombaliens when you go around talking sense like this?
 
2012-06-09 03:57:54 PM
False call

Canada would have been contacted since it would likely drift into Ontario at some point and not warning Ontario would damage relations for a very long time and we'd probably be at war in less than a month
 
2012-06-09 04:01:09 PM
dahmers love zombie Union City, MI. They filmed the Evil Dead movies there.

Just elements of the 1st one, after they shot the Super-8 "Within The Woods" there

Notre Dame?
"Save US Touchdown Jesus!"
farm4.staticflickr.com
/for all the Millard Sheets fans on FARK
 
2012-06-09 04:02:54 PM
Fermi just found the Higgs, which created a mini black hole, which will eat up the world within 1 year, and collapsed the detector. The weather pattern you're seeing is from the ionizing radiation nearby.

And all these helicopters aren't 'shopped from three sequential photos of the same helicopter.

naturalsociety.com

/not really
 
2012-06-09 04:12:10 PM
Meh - the big internet hoax from yesterday was that the USS Enterprise was attacked.
 
2012-06-09 04:16:12 PM
The Great Cataclysm is here. The Rifts are opening. The golden age of man is over.

/Take your clothes off and get up on your rooftop.
 
2012-06-09 04:16:16 PM

Vacation Bible School: L.D. Ablo: I hear they're also fluoridating the water.

[assets0.ordienetworks.com image 464x348]

If you only knew what else they were putting in the water...


They're putting TEH GHEY in the water!!@1!
 
2012-06-09 04:16:49 PM

bongmiester: GAT_00: bongmiester: Click on site 18:

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

Radiation does not spike and immediately fade like that.

if radiation lost containment, then containment was restored it seems to me that a spike is exactly what would be seen


No. The whole point of containment is to contain the radioactive *MATERIAL*. The radiation itself is only contained for the safety of the workers and it won't go all that far anyway.

J. Frank Parnell: I don't think nuclear reactors make a series of explosions like people are reporting even under the worst of conditions. That story is probably a cover if something truly happened.


You could get explosions from the fuel for the backup generators. I do agree a reactor itself won't. You can get *ONE* powerful but low-grade boom (it's not fast enough to make much of a shock wave) if the reactor is taken into the prompt critical range. (This is what happened in Chernobyl due to an incredible sequence of stupidity.)

Ivo Shandor: Also here:

Update: 6/7/12, 7:45 A.M: - False Alert: The alert level reading last evening appears to be a false alert from an equipment malfunction. Here is the station's report:

"out of control readings on the GeigerGraph screen from about 11:30pm local time that occurred while sleeping. My apologies to all. I have no idea what caused this. Shut down GeigerGraph and restarted. Readings from the Geiger were in the normal range (the Geiger operates on A/C). All cable connections are tight and not loose. Am speculating between the GFI and USB Adapter and some sort of voltage spikes. The uninterruptable power supply UPS had lost power and had died - a tripped GFI. I am not going to leave the system running while not at home until I can determine and fix the problem."


In other words, a piece of electronics blew up, not a nuke plant. No surprise.

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Fermi just found the Higgs, which created a mini black hole, which will eat up the world within 1 year, and collapsed the detector. The weather pattern you're seeing is from the ionizing radiation nearby.

And all these helicopters aren't 'shopped from three sequential photos of the same helicopter.

[naturalsociety.com image 640x853]

/not really


Good call. Photoshop.
 
2012-06-09 04:23:49 PM

PapaChester: The Great Cataclysm is here. The Rifts are opening. The golden age of man is over.

/Take your clothes off and get up on your rooftop.


this this and MORE THIS
 
2012-06-09 04:40:03 PM
And of course the A-10s are from way out there....in Fort Wayne.
 
2012-06-09 04:44:32 PM
Also to add, Chinooks constantly fly over my house here SW of Fort Wayne. Caught one ferrying what looked to be a Cessna plane underneath. Couldn't figure out why....but hey, maybe they needed the practice.

Of course, there's also the times the A-10's use the Wabash River valley for low altitude runs....and apparently use my addition as the IP. Nothing like an A-10 at full throttle screaming 200ft over my house.
 
2012-06-09 04:46:09 PM

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Fermi just found the Higgs,


I don't think so. You can check their webcams here , and I don't see any partying going on.
 
2012-06-09 04:47:19 PM
btw - the monitor in Louisiana is spiking right now ...



http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/chartx.html?id=28
 
2012-06-09 04:48:31 PM

bongmiester: btw - the monitor in Louisiana is spiking right now ...



http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/chartx.html?id=28


"Note: Spikes or high readings do not necessarily indicate high radiation level readings. Stations are privately run and data accuracy is not guaranteed. If one station reads high but nearby stations show normal readings, then it was probably a glitch."
 
2012-06-09 05:02:52 PM
Michigan just legalized explosions/fireworks, heard them last night.
 
2012-06-09 05:13:54 PM
 
2012-06-09 05:24:03 PM

bongmiester: btw - the monitor in Louisiana is spiking right now ...



http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/chartx.html?id=28


At least its only 120 not 3000 CPM

Also it appears that the Louisiana geiger counter was off for some time then restarted and spiked.
 
2012-06-09 05:26:30 PM
I saw this on Reddit a few days ago, and as a (downwind) Michigan resident, was more than a bit concerned. After a few edgey moments poking through a dozen postings, I decided to hang my hat on a defective detector and / or solar flares. There was, after all, a pretty big flare that popped on the 3rd, and a few other detectors across the country that detected odd spikes in the same time frame. There was also a similar class of flare last month that tripped detectors that shouldn't have been bothered by a flare, so rather than let my OCD drive me insane over this, I'll say "sunspots" and call it good.
 
2012-06-09 05:30:16 PM
Aside: Taiwan just got hit with another 6.0
 
2012-06-09 05:37:05 PM
It's bad up there... real bad. Here's a pic that a relative emailed me. He's not answering his phone anymore...

s3.hubimg.com
 
2012-06-09 05:58:20 PM

bwohlgemuth: And of course the A-10s are from way out there....in Fort Wayne.


IF you are going to be a weekend warrior, flying an A-10 would make it all worth it.
 
2012-06-09 06:02:29 PM

LasersHurt: A tiny coolant leak happened, but no radiation was released. As a precaution, nearby units were dispatched just in case.

Coincidentally, a radiation detector some distance away had an erroneous spike.

OR, or, a massive conspiracy of some kind happened.

Whichever you think is more likely.


Obviously, it's a massive conspiracy.
Because there are no nuclear reactors in Indiana, and hence no coolant to leak.

No nukes here
 
2012-06-09 06:03:01 PM

Coelacanth: It's the Piney Woods Incident all over again Link

This is what they recovered back then Link


Not sure why you put those stories together. If the ladies in question were that close to a hovering nuclear rocket, their future lives would have been nasty, brutish and short.
Incidentally, if you're interested in seeing a real atomic rocket, they have a couple in the Nuclear Testing Museum, in Vegas.
 
2012-06-09 06:04:20 PM

LasersHurt: Paging Ringshadow from the Pony thread, Ringshadow from the Pony thread to the Radiation thread.


Why can't it be both? Have a crappy sketch, but hey, I am out of practice on ponynatomy. Drunken nuclear pony times.

i50.tinypic.com

Okay, so on this topic: No one on commercial side seems to know jack. Due to it being by the state border or across the border or whatever, people have apparently called one of the local nuclear plants to ask WTF. As they did not know WTF they called the other nearby nuclear plant and asked WTF, whose response was naturally WTF NO.

Given the response and what "data" we have, I'm going with DOE or DOD drill.

bongmiester: if radiation lost containment, then containment was restored it seems to me that a spike is exactly what would be seen


Are you saying containment as in containment building or containment as in shielded casket?
 
2012-06-09 06:17:00 PM

crabsno termites: jfarkinB: crabsno termites: FTA: "dozens of organic comments "

WTF are "organic" comments?

Manure-based, as opposed to petrochemical-based.

Chem background so dispute the definition, but well played, Sir.


Oh, there's carbon there. Rings, in fact -- they're downright aromatic.
 
2012-06-09 06:29:41 PM

apiarist: LasersHurt: A tiny coolant leak happened, but no radiation was released. As a precaution, nearby units were dispatched just in case.

Coincidentally, a radiation detector some distance away had an erroneous spike.

OR, or, a massive conspiracy of some kind happened.

Whichever you think is more likely.

Obviously, it's a massive conspiracy.
Because there are no nuclear reactors in Indiana, and hence no coolant to leak.

No nukes here


The plant with the leak was in Ohio. Hence the "some distance away" bit.
 
2012-06-09 06:31:48 PM
I'm enjoying that you people somehow think primary coolant is anywhere near "outside", let alone could get outside in the first place.

Nuclear power does not work that way.

/unless you somehow break entirely through containment I guess
 
2012-06-09 06:41:17 PM
How do you see a bunch of military aircraft, hear a bunch of rapid explosions, and draw the conclusion that its a nuclear containment problem.... and not a military exercise? possibly a live fire one?

Retards.
 
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