If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(GPB News)   Win-Win: Vidalia onion farmers don't need illegal aliens to pick crops in Georgia, prison inmates are working out just fine   (gpb.org) divider line 264
    More: Spiffy, workamping, farmers, crops  
•       •       •

5490 clicks; posted to Main » on 09 Jun 2012 at 2:08 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



264 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-06-09 11:11:41 AM
Then quit biatching about unemployment being high and human rights in China.
 
2012-06-09 11:13:44 AM
I love Vidalia onions, so until the figure out a way to make them harvest themselves, I'm okay with this.
 
2012-06-09 11:21:48 AM
FTFA"part of the check goes toward defraying the cost of their incarceration", or something.
Yeah, clever how that worked out. How many 'favors' is this judge involved in?
 
2012-06-09 11:25:53 AM

AbbeySomeone: FTFA"part of the check goes toward defraying the cost of their incarceration", or something.
Yeah, clever how that worked out. How many 'favors' is this judge involved in?


That shiat bothers me. If the state decides I am guilty of a crime then they can foot the bill for my incarceration, I'm not going to work off my supposed dues slaving away in an onion field.
 
2012-06-09 11:27:20 AM
Now eating Vidalia onions is going to be political.
 
2012-06-09 11:30:10 AM

cretinbob: Then quit biatching about unemployment being high and human rights in China.


Well we could cut the welfare rolls. if you are able bodied, you are working the fields
 
2012-06-09 11:36:51 AM
Didn't pretty much everybody predict this exact thing happening as a result of the crack down on illegals?
 
2012-06-09 11:39:09 AM

violentsalvation: AbbeySomeone: FTFA"part of the check goes toward defraying the cost of their incarceration", or something.
Yeah, clever how that worked out. How many 'favors' is this judge involved in?

That shiat bothers me. If the state decides I am guilty of a crime then they can foot the bill for my incarceration, I'm not going to work off my supposed dues slaving away in an onion field.


The state doesn't decide you are guilty. A jury does.
 
2012-06-09 11:39:11 AM

sigdiamond2000: Didn't pretty much everybody predict this exact thing happening as a result of the crack down on illegals?


Yes boss.

thm-a01.yimg.com
 
2012-06-09 11:42:17 AM
Ah, the wonderful free market.
 
2012-06-09 11:48:07 AM
So if an illegal immigrant commits a crime they could get their old job back?
 
2012-06-09 11:50:53 AM

violentsalvation: I am guilty of a crime then they can foot the bill for my incarceration, I'm not going to work off my supposed dues slaving away in an onion field.


You are supposed to be paying your debt to society... you'll pay it any way you're told to pay it, convict!

But what's in it for you? I am sure that any parole hearings take in to account how much of a model prisoner you are when they decide. Refusing to or doing poorly at work detail are not the actions of a model prisoner.

www.macmeisters.com
Rehabilitated... that's just a bullshiat word.
I've spent some long nights in stir....
 
2012-06-09 11:51:41 AM
Nothing beats slave labor provided by the government. Just ask the Nazis.
 
2012-06-09 11:52:22 AM

violentsalvation: If the state decides I am guilty of a crime then they can foot the bill for my incarceration,


Because it's up to the state to pay for your misdeeds.
 
2012-06-09 11:53:04 AM

GAT_00: Ah, the wonderful free market.


It bothers you that prisoners who ask to transition to work are allowed to do so? You realize they want these jobs and are not forced, right?
 
2012-06-09 11:53:19 AM

Winning: So if an illegal immigrant commits a crime they could get their old job back?


an illegal immigrant HAS committed a crime. That's what illegal means.

Nevertheless your thought deserves.....

www.macmeisters.com
 
2012-06-09 11:55:22 AM

flucto: GAT_00: Ah, the wonderful free market.

It bothers you that prisoners who ask to transition to work are allowed to do so? You realize they want these jobs and are not forced, right?


You're really not expecting an informed opinion from him, are you?
 
2012-06-09 12:02:21 PM

flucto: GAT_00: Ah, the wonderful free market.

It bothers you that prisoners who ask to transition to work are allowed to do so? You realize they want these jobs and are not forced, right?


How do you know it's voluntary? It doesn't say anywhere in there they volunteered.
 
2012-06-09 12:05:46 PM

GAT_00: flucto: GAT_00: Ah, the wonderful free market.

It bothers you that prisoners who ask to transition to work are allowed to do so? You realize they want these jobs and are not forced, right?

How do you know it's voluntary? It doesn't say anywhere in there they volunteered.


You lack of faith is... disturbing.
www.jessicaswell.com
 
2012-06-09 12:09:05 PM
You know who else made a fortune off prison labor?
cdn.okcimg.com
 
2012-06-09 12:22:35 PM

GAT_00: How do you know it's voluntary? It doesn't say anywhere in there they volunteered.


As cynical as I can be sometimes, I'd say these probably are volunteer laborers, if only because coercing work out of unwilling workers would be too much trouble and counter-productive. If someone were out there who didn't want to be there, wouldn't he just smash up the onions, pick fights with other prisoners, or play in the dirt all day?
 
2012-06-09 12:24:45 PM
All day long they work so hard
Till the sun is goin' down
Working on the highways and byways
And wearing, wearing a frown
You hear them moanin' their lives away
Then you hear somebody sa-ay

That's the sound of the men working on the chain ga-a-ang
That's the sound of the men working on the chain gang
 
2012-06-09 12:25:53 PM

Chariset: GAT_00: How do you know it's voluntary? It doesn't say anywhere in there they volunteered.

As cynical as I can be sometimes, I'd say these probably are volunteer laborers, if only because coercing work out of unwilling workers would be too much trouble and counter-productive. If someone were out there who didn't want to be there, wouldn't he just smash up the onions, pick fights with other prisoners, or play in the dirt all day?


That's a night in the box.
 
2012-06-09 12:28:24 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: violentsalvation: If the state decides I am guilty of a crime then they can foot the bill for my incarceration,

Because it's up to the state to pay for your misdeeds.


No it is up to the state not to use me as slave labor for private businesses, sorry they and you are too stupid or corruptible to call a spade a spade.
 
2012-06-09 12:28:38 PM

TwoHead: That's a night in the box.


Some men, you just can't reach.
 
2012-06-09 12:28:58 PM
img.foodnetwork.com

I don't care.
 
2012-06-09 12:30:08 PM

Chariset: GAT_00: How do you know it's voluntary? It doesn't say anywhere in there they volunteered.

As cynical as I can be sometimes, I'd say these probably are volunteer laborers, if only because coercing work out of unwilling workers would be too much trouble and counter-productive. If someone were out there who didn't want to be there, wouldn't he just smash up the onions, pick fights with other prisoners, or play in the dirt all day?


I'm sure they are volunteers. Because pulling onions like a slave and smelling outside air is better than sitting in prison. It still does not make it right.
 
2012-06-09 12:34:31 PM

violentsalvation: Chariset: GAT_00: How do you know it's voluntary? It doesn't say anywhere in there they volunteered.

As cynical as I can be sometimes, I'd say these probably are volunteer laborers, if only because coercing work out of unwilling workers would be too much trouble and counter-productive. If someone were out there who didn't want to be there, wouldn't he just smash up the onions, pick fights with other prisoners, or play in the dirt all day?

I'm sure they are volunteers. Because pulling onions like a slave and smelling outside air is better than sitting in prison. It still does not make it right.


And why stop with onions? They can just as well build highways or hang drywall or work on an assembly line. There's virtually no difference.
 
2012-06-09 12:42:12 PM

violentsalvation: Chariset: GAT_00: How do you know it's voluntary? It doesn't say anywhere in there they volunteered.

As cynical as I can be sometimes, I'd say these probably are volunteer laborers, if only because coercing work out of unwilling workers would be too much trouble and counter-productive. If someone were out there who didn't want to be there, wouldn't he just smash up the onions, pick fights with other prisoners, or play in the dirt all day?

I'm sure they are volunteers. Because pulling onions like a slave and smelling outside air is better than sitting in prison. It still does not make it right.


How do you know that? In most prisons, everyone is required to have a job working in the prison. How do you know they couldn't have been assigned to this farm? Assigned, and then forced to turn over their income.
 
2012-06-09 12:48:35 PM

violentsalvation: No it is up to the state not to use me as slave labor for private businesses, sorry they and you are too stupid or corruptible to call a spade a spade.


TFA: "You get a good, motivated worker and then when they get out of prison, many times they have a full time job waiting on them. It cures several problems at once," he said in a phone interview. "But it's never been used in production agriculture."

Owner Wayne Durrence says he has no complaints about the inmates harvesting his Vidalia onions.

"They've worked out real good," he said. "Some of them even said when they get out, they may come back and work for me, you know maybe next year. They have really worked out good."


Pretty farking stupid indeed.
 
2012-06-09 12:53:37 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: violentsalvation: No it is up to the state not to use me as slave labor for private businesses, sorry they and you are too stupid or corruptible to call a spade a spade.

TFA: "You get a good, motivated worker and then when they get out of prison, many times they have a full time job waiting on them. It cures several problems at once," he said in a phone interview. "But it's never been used in production agriculture."

Owner Wayne Durrence says he has no complaints about the inmates harvesting his Vidalia onions.

"They've worked out real good," he said. "Some of them even said when they get out, they may come back and work for me, you know maybe next year. They have really worked out good."

Pretty farking stupid indeed.


You got kin in them fields huh
 
2012-06-09 12:55:13 PM
Why do they refuse to allow the free market to work?

Farmers didn't want to pay market rate wages, so they hired illegal immigrants. When the supply of illegals dries up, they lobby to hire prisoners.

If you say you can't get people to pick your onions, what you're saying is that you can't get people to pick your onions for the rate you want to pay. Which means you're not paying enough.
 
2012-06-09 12:58:37 PM

jim32rr: Dancin_In_Anson: violentsalvation: No it is up to the state not to use me as slave labor for private businesses, sorry they and you are too stupid or corruptible to call a spade a spade.

TFA: "You get a good, motivated worker and then when they get out of prison, many times they have a full time job waiting on them. It cures several problems at once," he said in a phone interview. "But it's never been used in production agriculture."

Owner Wayne Durrence says he has no complaints about the inmates harvesting his Vidalia onions.

"They've worked out real good," he said. "Some of them even said when they get out, they may come back and work for me, you know maybe next year. They have really worked out good."

Pretty farking stupid indeed.

You got kin in them fields huh


No, he just likes it when people aren't paid enough to live on, or really abused by a company in any manner. He thinks that all people should be raped by a company to be a Real American.
 
2012-06-09 01:13:42 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: violentsalvation: No it is up to the state not to use me as slave labor for private businesses, sorry they and you are too stupid or corruptible to call a spade a spade.

TFA: "You get a good, motivated worker and then when they get out of prison, many times they have a full time job waiting on them. It cures several problems at once," he said in a phone interview. "But it's never been used in production agriculture."

Owner Wayne Durrence says he has no complaints about the inmates harvesting his Vidalia onions.

"They've worked out real good," he said. "Some of them even said when they get out, they may come back and work for me, you know maybe next year. They have really worked out good."

Pretty farking stupid indeed.


Talk about missing the point entirely.
 
2012-06-09 01:17:15 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: violentsalvation: No it is up to the state not to use me as slave labor for private businesses, sorry they and you are too stupid or corruptible to call a spade a spade.

TFA: "You get a good, motivated worker and then when they get out of prison, many times they have a full time job waiting on them. It cures several problems at once," he said in a phone interview. "But it's never been used in production agriculture."

Owner Wayne Durrence says he has no complaints about the inmates harvesting his Vidalia onions.

"They've worked out real good," he said. "Some of them even said when they get out, they may come back and work for me, you know maybe next year. They have really worked out good."

Pretty farking stupid indeed.


Really. Can you imagine being dumb enough to think he'd hire you at a living wage when he could just hire cheap prison labor again next year?
 
2012-06-09 01:17:35 PM

violentsalvation: Dancin_In_Anson: violentsalvation: No it is up to the state not to use me as slave labor for private businesses, sorry they and you are too stupid or corruptible to call a spade a spade.

TFA: "You get a good, motivated worker and then when they get out of prison, many times they have a full time job waiting on them. It cures several problems at once," he said in a phone interview. "But it's never been used in production agriculture."

Owner Wayne Durrence says he has no complaints about the inmates harvesting his Vidalia onions.

"They've worked out real good," he said. "Some of them even said when they get out, they may come back and work for me, you know maybe next year. They have really worked out good."

Pretty farking stupid indeed.

Talk about missing the point entirely.


It's his specialty.
 
2012-06-09 01:19:36 PM
I'm okay with this.
 
2012-06-09 01:26:09 PM
Another business that can't make it without government subsidy. Whoopee.
 
2012-06-09 01:31:20 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: I'm okay with this.


Why? Being in prison doesn't mean you should be allowed to be turned into a slave. Despite what some people think, people in prison are still PEOPLE.
 
2012-06-09 01:32:11 PM
So let's see here...There are about 400 inmates in the transitional work program, Black said, although only about 10 have been working at the onion farm.

I can only assume from the comments of the all knowing and OUTRAGED here on fark that these 10 inmates are being forced, against their will, to slave away in the fields with no hope whatsoever of parlaying this experience into something worthwhile after their release.

Of course the same applies to the other 390 in the program that are working in other capacities in the program. Perhaps the state should just scrap the program altogether and just kept them in their cages instead.
 
2012-06-09 01:35:48 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: So let's see here...There are about 400 inmates in the transitional work program, Black said, although only about 10 have been working at the onion farm.

I can only assume from the comments of the all knowing and OUTRAGED here on fark that these 10 inmates are being forced, against their will, to slave away in the fields with no hope whatsoever of parlaying this experience into something worthwhile after their release.

Of course the same applies to the other 390 in the program that are working in other capacities in the program. Perhaps the state should just scrap the program altogether and just kept them in their cages instead.


Perhaps they should be given a cash settlement upon release, along with a written apology from the victims for the inconvenience caused by their incarceration.
 
2012-06-09 01:37:27 PM
And that's par for the course, DIA decides to change the topic instead of actually being involved in the discussion.
 
2012-06-09 01:38:27 PM

violentsalvation: AbbeySomeone: FTFA"part of the check goes toward defraying the cost of their incarceration", or something.
Yeah, clever how that worked out. How many 'favors' is this judge involved in?

That shiat bothers me. If the state decides I am guilty of a crime then they can foot the bill for my incarceration, I'm not going to work off my supposed dues slaving away in an onion field.


We agree on the issue. There is a financial incentive for the state to incarcerate people.

Of course, if what you are saying is that you will resist your slavers -I'm sure they'll understand and treat you well.

www.masters-of-photography.com
 
2012-06-09 01:38:37 PM

GAT_00: The My Little Pony Killer: I'm okay with this.

Why? Being in prison doesn't mean you should be allowed to be turned into a slave. Despite what some people think, people in prison are still PEOPLE.


They're not slaves though. They're being paid for their work. And they're using that money to pay back the debt they're incurring having committed a crime and gotten themselves locked up in the first place.

Yes, people in prison are still PEOPLE, which is why REHABILITATION is so important. Would you rather they sat in cells all day? I don't quite get what you're getting at here, Gat.
 
2012-06-09 01:43:04 PM
Convicted felons aren't allowed to vote once they've been released, would you like to try turning that into civil rights wharrgarble?
 
2012-06-09 01:43:35 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: So let's see here...There are about 400 inmates in the transitional work program, Black said, although only about 10 have been working at the onion farm.

I can only assume from the comments of the all knowing and OUTRAGED here on fark that these 10 inmates are being forced, against their will, to slave away in the fields with no hope whatsoever of parlaying this experience into something worthwhile after their release.

Of course the same applies to the other 390 in the program that are working in other capacities in the program. Perhaps the state should just scrap the program altogether and just kept them in their cages instead.


The only thing that could make this better would be privatizing the prison system. As it stands the farmers and other Job Creators are paying money to the evil government to hire these laborers. With a privatized prison system one JC could pay another JC without supporting the corrupt public sector.
 
2012-06-09 01:47:21 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: which is why REHABILITATION is so important.


Working in a field is rehabilitation? How about getting them to learn an actual skill? Prisons used to do this, before we became a police state. What part of farming onions rehabilitates you? This doesn't actually help anyone except Vidalia.
 
2012-06-09 01:59:01 PM

GAT_00: And that's par for the course, DIA decides to change the topic instead of actually being involved in the discussion.


Which is that you in all of your infinite knowledge of this program is that Georgia has selected 400 inmates (against their will) as indentured servants, 10 of whom are subject to the lash on a Georgia onion farm. Amirite?
 
2012-06-09 02:12:18 PM
No failure to communicate here.
Capitalism loves slave labor.

Opt out, people.
Time to eradicate capitalism and communism.
 
2012-06-09 02:14:33 PM
Shifting from one kind of slave labor to another does not make what you're doing okay, farmers.
 
Displayed 50 of 264 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report