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2012-06-10 01:58:19 AM  

One Bad Apple: Making modern day ammunition airtight until it is fired is completely feasible with existing manufacturing methods it just isn't necessary now.


It won't be necessary later either. A bullet will fire in a vacuum.
 
2012-06-10 02:01:57 AM  
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i a) Dan O'Bannon Inspired by Eric Von Däniken

One of the earth crew in the original script the character speculated about the pyramid in relation to the Space Jockey " Maybe the rest of the crew is in there -- in some kind of suspended animation, waiting to be rescued." which is an idea related to Von Daniken's explorations into what the Pyramids were about.

i b) Walter Hill said the words in relation to talking about the presence of a pyramid in the original script "Dan was deeply into pyramidology at the time". (Starlog July 1979, p95)

i c) Walter Hill spoke with derision about the Däniken-esque material in O'Bannon's original script . He said about it "they had pyramids and hieroglyphics on the planetoid, a lot of Von Däniken crap " (Film International)

ii) Chris Foss inspired by Erich Von Däniken
Chris Foss the artist who was one of the concept designers for Alien also took inspiration from the book Chariot of the Gods when he drew the Nazca Lines being used a landing strip by a space craft for a project not related to Alien

iii) HR Giger influenced by Erich Von Däniken

iii. a)When Ridley chose some ideas from Giger's Necronomicon for the space jockey, more was required beyond that for the design of the space jockey and his seat which forced him to turn to images of the ancient Egyptian funerary barge of the god Sokar to transform that using his imagination into his ancient alien dead pilot in its control seat, perhaps much like the Sarcophagus Lid the Tomb of Pakal Votan appears to have translated itself in Von Däniken's mind into an ancient astronaut in a rocket ship whatever the truth of the matter. (see 3. Evolution of Space Jockey via the Egyptian Book of the Dead)

iii. b) Giger in his essay about his hometown, wrote that "Chur became famous in the world press as the place where Erich Von Daniken was sentenced to three and a half years in prison for fraud - a term otherwise reserved for murderers. It shows that the inhabitants of Graubunden for fantastists, foreigners or people from other parts of Switzerland have a chance if they bring money into the canton, like Gunter sachs or the Shah of Persia" (Giger's Necronomicon, p12)

N.B. Chur us the capital of Graunbunden which is a cantor (district) in Switzerland

iv) Ridley Scott inspired by Eric Von Däniken

iv.a) Years later, in 12.05.2010, Swiss newspaper Blick interviewed Ridley Scott about his Robin Hood film and managed to interview him a question about his forthcoming Alien production, Ridley gives a nod to Erich Von Daniken's writings and we can read through Google Translater that Ridley is saying that he guessed right. (See: Blick interviewed Ridley Scott 12.05.2010)

iv.b) Ridley Scott also acknowledged Von Daniken's writings at the CineEurope even in 2011. "NASA and the Vatican agree that is almost mathematically impossible that we can be where we are today without there being a little help along the way," Scott said. "That's what we're looking at (in the film), at some of Eric van Daniken's ideas of how did we humans come about." ( Ridley Scott, Michael Fassbender, Noomi Rapace Tease 'Prometheus' at CineEurope, 6:26 PM PDT 6/28/2011 by Scott Roxborough, Hollywood Reporter)

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2012-06-10 02:08:11 AM  

PanicMan: We need to have a dedicated spoiler filled Prometheus thread, because I didn't like it but I can't pin down why.


I guess that's the end of the thread for me.
 
2012-06-10 02:10:39 AM  

davidphogan: Strongbeerrules: Yes, but they could have cast someone else. The Search for Spock did so with Saavik.

I'm the rare Alien fan who liked 3, and loved the recut even more. It closed the story, even if it was done so in a fairly mediocre way. It was still better than almost any other #3 in a series movie I can think of.

Overall, the story worked. She was a woman who had just been used and abused by The Man her whole life, and she ends up on a planet inhabited by people like her, other than she's a woman. She was a victim of all of them, and like all of them. She had dealt with her family being destroyed, her friends and other humans being killed in front of her, and she had lost everything, twice.

Yet, she's given one last chance on a planet nobody is ever given another chance, and the prisoners help give her a last chance. She confronts her (literal) demons, and wins, even though her choice is to trust the company that has repeatedly shown no regard for anything that gets in their way, or take things into her own hands and self-abort.

Prometheus touched on a lot of the topics from the first three movies, but that got it's own sub-plot in a way.

Maybe they could have cast someone else, but they didn't need to. The point of the third one, much like Terminator 3, was that nobody gets out of this no matter how safe we might seen. At some point, the shiat will hit the fan.


Point taken. Only I recall fanzines (fan magazines) in circulation at the time (no internet then) backlash over Alien 3's killing off Newt. It was a bad business/artistic decision.
 
2012-06-10 02:13:48 AM  
Just gonna put this here, lots of production goodies:

http://lechib.free.fr/livreprometheus/
 
2012-06-10 02:36:58 AM  

TyrantII: Just gonna put this here, lots of production goodies:

http://lechib.free.fr/livreprometheus/


Is there an English version of the last few pages? Or translation?
 
2012-06-10 02:38:31 AM  

Trocadero: Here's a question. Is Terminator Salvation a prequel, since it occurs before John Connor sends Kyle Reese back in time?


I think it was meant to be more of a stand alone in the same universe, but maybe a different timeline. If not that, it was both a sequel and a prequel.

Strongbeerrules: Point taken. Only I recall fanzines (fan magazines) in circulation at the time (no internet then) backlash over Alien 3's killing off Newt. It was a bad business/artistic decision.


I was glad she was dead, but that's just me. I was most annoyed by Bishop's human version being the bad guy, but it was a decent plot twist. (Or was it?) Either way, the alternate version was really pretty decent. The theatrical version wasn't that bad, it just pissed off a lot of people. I like the original ending where Ripley just destroys herself without needing to ever see her suffer through a chestburster.
 
2012-06-10 04:14:51 AM  
Despite the fact it was a slideshow, I went ahead and played along. I knew about half the factoids. I was entertained, so it was five minutes well-spent.

/Alien nerd
//this box wine tastes great
 
2012-06-10 06:18:30 AM  

PanicMan: DamnYankees: PanicMan: And how did the dude who was turning into an Engineer impregnate her with a non-Engineeer? Shouldn't her baby be a muscle-ey pale dude?

He was turning into an Engineer? What made you think that? That's not how I interpreted it, though to be fair my interpretation was mostly not understanding that entire sequence. Here are my questions as it relates to that:

I thought that's what the black slime did. I thought that was why the redhead guy came back all strong and rageful, after he fell in the black slime. Maybe not, it wasn't really clear. Lots of things in the movie weren't clear.

DamnYankees: How did David know what he was supposed to do, since they just discovered this stuff?
Why did David do what he did? Did Weyland order him to? If so, why?
Once Shaw goes through her surgery, the whole thing was dropped. What was the point? I don't get any of it. But it was cool to watch, and I was genuinely moved when the immolation scene happens.

Good questions. The goal was immortality, or at least longer life? They seemed to not really have a plan beyond "get there, and then um...". I'm okay with mysteries, but that's some pretty big stuff.


Every prior alien film had a character, droid or human, acting on behalf of some shadowy corporate directive that is revealed later on. I kind of like the fact that David's motivation wasn't opened up, and it really could have been an experiment of his own divising, as highlighted by the discussion of that very scene. "why do you suppose they made me?"
"just to see if we could."
The Promethean Fire is creation, so David ponders its potential and ultimately makes the unilateral decision to steal it right then and there rather than take it back to some company lab. He had to know that infecting a crewmen bet would potentially endanger his primary mission, to protect Peter Waylund.
 
2012-06-10 08:43:28 AM  
Let me just add that I liked Alien 3 despite its flaws. This is a good discussion, thanks. I needed to work through these kinds of things.
 
2012-06-10 09:13:10 AM  

therecksays:
I highly doubt that when the human race sets out for the stars we will be bringing a device that strikes a primer in a cartridge that ignites powder that then uses gas to propell a lead slug for deadly effect. It wouldn't work in space anyway. Far more likely to have a mass propeller like a gauss gun or some type of laser weapon.


Guns will work in space. They have the fuel and oxidant contained in the cartridge, just like rockets and they work pretty well in space.

The use of old fashioned guns was one of the well thought out things in Firefly. Living on the frontier, well away from the infrastructure of civilisation, six shooters and horses are far better than laser guns and hovercars. They are simple, easy to service and repair locally with basic tools and do not need expensive and complicated spare parts. Firefly had both. The advanced planets had laser guns and hovercars, the outer planets had revolvers and horses. Far, far more realistic than Star Trek where almost every planet is one uni-culture with every single person wearing the same clothes and having the same tech, unless it was a planet with two sides at war of course.

Today in Asia there are cities with 100mp broadband and 4g cellular networks that exist a few hundred miles from peasants using oxen to plow fields of rice and living in shacks with no running water or electricity.
Why would the future be any different?
 
2012-06-10 09:17:28 AM  

theunblinkingeye: Suede head: The black goo has no consistent rules and does whatever the writers want it to do at any given moment.

Also, how does the squid thing grow to vast size locked in a medical bay? You can't make mass from fresh air. Also, why are the Engineers way smaller than the original Space Jockey? Also, a medical unit for males only, situated in an escape pod inhabited by a woman. Oh, fark off Ridley...

Guy Pearce's shiatty "old man" make-up and crappy acting. Overacting from the mohican guy. petting the alien snake (as one would naturally do). Just farking stupid crap.

The black goo wasn't that inconsistent. Fifield just had ingested more of it than Holloway. The growth thing bothered me a little too, but it also bothered me in Alien when the chestburster grew into a xenomorph. The medical unit was for Weyland, obviously. I don't know how you could have missed that.


Dude, you've developed a super-duper advanced autodoc unit. You program it for every medical procedure in the book... except for women's stuff? Way too contrived. What if Vickers had an accident or illness and used the unit only to be told "Nope, no hos, just bros. Out you get"? What, the data for the female ops taking up too much of it's 2mb of RAM or something and they had to delete them? Contrived. contrived. Contrived.
 
2012-06-10 09:33:19 AM  
The black goo caused the engineer at the beginning to break up and spread his DNA. Which is 100% human, according to the tests they run. Yet it doesn't do the same to the humans, it makes Fifield a superpowered madman while Holloway begs for death and is calm and rational. It mutates a worm into a snake, where's the consistency in its effect?

Also how can engineer DNA be identical to ours? The film shows Prometheus seeding the earth, which must have been many hundreds of millions of years ago, yet humans have evolved from the inital life seeding, they're not direct copies. Even a chimp has only something like 97% DAS compatibility with humans. Also, the Engineer head that exploded had white blood, how can that be human? White blood indicates a totally different chemistry. Also they're 8' tall and grey-skinned.
 
2012-06-10 09:51:31 AM  
Now I'm still gonna see the movie, but WTF is all this talk about black goo? Didn't we get enough black goo from "The X-Files"?

Just tell me there were no bees pollinating cornfields to spread microscopic alien sperm and I'll calm down.
 
2012-06-10 11:03:33 AM  
Suede head:

Dude, you've developed a super-duper advanced autodoc unit. You program it for every medical procedure in the book... except for women's stuff? Way too contrived. What if Vickers had an accident or illness and used the unit only to be told "Nope, no hos, just bros. Out you get"? What, the data for the female ops taking up too much of it's 2mb of RAM or something and they had to delete them? Contrived. contrived. Contrived.


Except you're overlooking the simple answer for the more complicated scenario.

Vickers was never supposed to be on the mission and the life boat / med pod was for Weyland. The whole scene was foreshadowing to revealing Weyland was on board.

Not to mention we know very little of the machine, or the amounts of data it needs to do such a thing. You argue it can fit every known surgery and fix in it's memory of 20GB, I'll argue all the information takes up 40 petraflops, so you need to program in specifics. It's a stupid farking argument and thing to be pull up as what is wrong with the movie.

OMG they have android but they haven't learned how to give them emotion chips! Oh noes! Film fail!
 
2012-06-10 12:34:48 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Teknowaffle: Dear god, I am not a big gun person, but for farks sake, Sigourney Weaver has a serious psychological issue about them. Not healthy lady.

This is one of the things that makes her a terrible actress. Real life != make believe. "I'm sorry, I'm part Native American, I can't do a film about going into space and colonizing it because look at what happened when the white man colonized the North American continent. But if you give me more money, I can shut my mouth."

I bet she biatched about the proton packs in Ghostbusters, also, and she tried to change the ghosts into something else because ghosts are conflicting with her religion.


She must be a liberal Democrat.
 
2012-06-10 12:35:07 PM  

theorellior: Now I'm still gonna see the movie, but WTF is all this talk about black goo? Didn't we get enough black goo from "The X-Files"?

Just tell me there were no bees pollinating cornfields to spread microscopic alien sperm and I'll calm down.


No, but the film is a disappointment.

X-Files: The Movie didn't disappoint me. That should give you a clear margin of quality.

Also:

The score was godawful, too. It was like the guy who was supposed to score the movie got abducted by the PLO and Ridley Scott got the guy who does the Air National Guard commercials. Fassbender stands out in a very good way (as always) though. It's worth a look, and the 3D subtlety is yet another great Ridley Scott push to maintain excellence among The Fad. I was expecting something a bit more immersive.
 
2012-06-10 12:39:30 PM  

RedVentrue: But if you give me more money, I can shut my mouth."


She must be a liberal Democrat.

It's because of the closed mouth, right?
 
2012-06-10 01:03:56 PM  

TyrantII: Suede head:

Dude, you've developed a super-duper advanced autodoc unit. You program it for every medical procedure in the book... except for women's stuff? Way too contrived. What if Vickers had an accident or illness and used the unit only to be told "Nope, no hos, just bros. Out you get"? What, the data for the female ops taking up too much of it's 2mb of RAM or something and they had to delete them? Contrived. contrived. Contrived.

Except you're overlooking the simple answer for the more complicated scenario.

Vickers was never supposed to be on the mission and the life boat / med pod was for Weyland. The whole scene was foreshadowing to revealing Weyland was on board.

Not to mention we know very little of the machine, or the amounts of data it needs to do such a thing. You argue it can fit every known surgery and fix in it's memory of 20GB, I'll argue all the information takes up 40 petraflops, so you need to program in specifics. It's a stupid farking argument and thing to be pull up as what is wrong with the movie.

OMG they have android but they haven't learned how to give them emotion chips! Oh noes! Film fail!


Uh, no. The 2gb thing was a "joke". I'm arguing why would you arbitrarily exclude any procedure the machine is capable of performing? It's just data and data storage is vanishingly cheap even today. Even if the machine was meant for Weyland's use it's no reason to exclude 50% of the human race, it just stinks of contrivance and illogicality, like much of the film.
 
2012-06-10 01:11:14 PM  

theunblinkingeye: Suede head: The black goo has no consistent rules and does whatever the writers want it to do at any given moment.

Also, how does the squid thing grow to vast size locked in a medical bay? You can't make mass from fresh air. Also, why are the Engineers way smaller than the original Space Jockey? Also, a medical unit for males only, situated in an escape pod inhabited by a woman. Oh, fark off Ridley...

Guy Pearce's shiatty "old man" make-up and crappy acting. Overacting from the mohican guy. petting the alien snake (as one would naturally do). Just farking stupid crap.

The black goo wasn't that inconsistent. Fifield just had ingested more of it than Holloway. The growth thing bothered me a little too, but it also bothered me in Alien when the chestburster grew into a xenomorph. The medical unit was for Weyland, obviously. I don't know how you could have missed that.


In Alien I accepted the rapid growth because we don't know what the creature had been ingesting, it may have got at food supplies. In fact in the novel by alan Dean Foster it does exactly this, presumably a scene they cut. Also we don't know how long elapsed between it emerging from Kane and it killing Brett, could have been a day, could have been a week or more. In Prometheus the squid thing reaches vast size in hours while locked in a medical bay, which I doubt had stocks of food lying about. It just doesn't wash. My heart sank as I realised this supposedly profound and thoughtful SF film was just Transformers.
 
2012-06-10 01:51:45 PM  

thamike: The score was godawful, too. It was like the guy who was supposed to score the movie got abducted by the PLO and Ridley Scott got the guy who does the Air National Guard commercials.


LOL. Know how I know you're old? You said "PLO." Do you know how I know I'm old? I knew what you meant.
 
2012-06-10 03:24:51 PM  
Suede head:

Uh, no. The 2gb thing was a "joke". I'm arguing why would you arbitrarily exclude any procedure the machine is capable of performing? It's just data and data storage is vanishingly cheap even today. Even if the machine was meant for Weyland's use it's no reason to exclude 50% of the human race, it just stinks of contrivance and illogicality, like much of the film.


Because the corp that built it can charge 5 times as more for the full model!

Of course.

This ain't your father Star Trek future!
 
2012-06-10 03:30:47 PM  

Suede head:
Also, how does the squid thing grow to vast size locked in a medical bay? You can't make mass from fresh air. Also, why are the Engineers way smaller than the original Space Jockey? Also, a medical unit for males only, situated in an escape pod inhabited by a woman. Oh, fark off Ridley...

The medical unit was for old man Weyland, which is why Vickers (Charlize) told Shaw (Noomi) to fark the hell off when she started asking questions about it.
 
2012-06-10 03:50:45 PM  

Great Janitor: the opposite of charity is justice: To kick off a new feature called "Vulture Scavenger," we watched all four Alien films (repeat after us: There are no Alien v. Predator movies)

Not only are there no AvP movies, I have no idea what they is talking about concerning a third and fourth Alien film.

Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and unca' Bishop got back to earth and lived happily ever after.

It's odd, people talk about movies that sound awesome but don't actually exist. Like a second and third Matrix movie and prequels to the Star Wars trilogy.


Then theres people who seem to expect far too much from movies, criticize and pick them apart far too much, then proceed to deny the movie exists if it doesnt meet their unjustifiably high standards. I can imagine these are the people who are seen at the theaters alone, as no one would possibly want to listen to the whining and complaining that must accompany said persons viewing of most movies.

Seriously people, get over yourselves.
 
2012-06-10 04:32:12 PM  

Sultan Of Herf: Then theres people who seem to expect far too much from movies, criticize and pick them apart far too much, then proceed to deny the movie exists if it doesnt meet their unjustifiably high standards. I can imagine these are the people who are seen at the theaters alone, as no one would possibly want to listen to the whining and complaining that must accompany said persons viewing of most movies.

Seriously people, get over yourselves.


But...All the aforementioned movies did suck. And it had nothing to do with an over inflated expectation from the audience based on an over eager marketing blitz. Matrix 2 and 3, as well as the Star Wars prequels were bad films. One doesn't even need to compare them to their predecessors or the hype. Poor execution. Same goes for Prometheus. I wouldn't call it a bad movie, but it certainly wasn't on the level that everyone involved has trained us to expect from them. It seemed rushed and superficial.
 
2012-06-10 04:39:56 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: To kick off a new feature called "Vulture Scavenger," we watched all four Alien films (repeat after us: There are no Alien v. Predator movies)

Not only are there no AvP movies, I have no idea what they is talking about concerning a third and fourth Alien film.

Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and unca' Bishop got back to earth and lived happily ever after.


Came here to say this.
 
2012-06-10 04:48:52 PM  

therecksays: mongbiohazard: Dwight_Yeast: Teknowaffle: Dear god, I am not a big gun person, but for farks sake, Sigourney Weaver has a serious psychological issue about them. Not healthy lady.

If her argument is "guns won't be used in the future" I have to agree with her.

/No problem with people owning guns


I'm pretty sure there will either be guns used in the future that are far more destructive then the ones we have now, or something much worse. You don't really think there will be no weapons in the future, do you?

I highly doubt that when the human race sets out for the stars we will be bringing a device that strikes a primer in a cartridge that ignites powder that then uses gas to propell a lead slug for deadly effect. It wouldn't work in space anyway. Far more likely to have a mass propeller like a gauss gun or some type of laser weapon.


Guns would work GREAT in space. It ain't like a cartridge needs air to fire.

The bullet would fly for a lonnnnng time. That thought makes me happy.
 
2012-06-10 06:52:54 PM  
So someone watched all the "Behind the Scenes"/making-of docs and typed it up?
 
2012-06-10 06:59:22 PM  

Suede head: theunblinkingeye: Suede head: The black goo has no consistent rules and does whatever the writers want it to do at any given moment.

Also, how does the squid thing grow to vast size locked in a medical bay? You can't make mass from fresh air. Also, why are the Engineers way smaller than the original Space Jockey? Also, a medical unit for males only, situated in an escape pod inhabited by a woman. Oh, fark off Ridley...

Guy Pearce's shiatty "old man" make-up and crappy acting. Overacting from the mohican guy. petting the alien snake (as one would naturally do). Just farking stupid crap.

The black goo wasn't that inconsistent. Fifield just had ingested more of it than Holloway. The growth thing bothered me a little too, but it also bothered me in Alien when the chestburster grew into a xenomorph. The medical unit was for Weyland, obviously. I don't know how you could have missed that.

In Alien I accepted the rapid growth because we don't know what the creature had been ingesting, it may have got at food supplies. In fact in the novel by alan Dean Foster it does exactly this, presumably a scene they cut. Also we don't know how long elapsed between it emerging from Kane and it killing Brett, could have been a day, could have been a week or more. In Prometheus the squid thing reaches vast size in hours while locked in a medical bay, which I doubt had stocks of food lying about. It just doesn't wash. My heart sank as I realised this supposedly profound and thoughtful SF film was just Transformers.


Please add me as a subscriber to your newsletter. Prometheus is what a stupid person thinks thoughtful SF is. It was so bad it made me angry.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned: 4 or 5 dots are painted as an invitation to the "Engineers" homeworld. They manage to find the only occurrence of this pattern in the entire universe (contrived) and isolate one world due to its ability to sustain life. Except ... it can't sustain life. And ... it's not even their homeworld. It's a weapons facility.
 
2012-06-10 09:02:30 PM  
OK seen the movie, it is visually stunning! I have to say I love this ship, please tell me Quantum Mechanics is working on a Miniature.The FX is almost perfect, nothing looks "wrong" like CGI sometimes does.

The plot however, not so much. There are just too many WTF moments.
Why infect the guy is he is going to be torched a couple scenes later? Was the android trying to get her pregnant with "something", what did he spike the drink with Viagra too?
What was with the snake-thing scene? One guy just dies and the other de-evolves into a caveman. Felt like pointless action scenes just so they had some for the trailer.
And the "abortion" scene, did they get her pregnant just so Lil' Cthulhu could save her at the end.
And what was with the Engineer's reaction? It felt like he tore the androids head off just because it's an Alien movie and the android has to be torn apart.

The last half of the movie could have used a rewrite or two to clarify WTF was going on.
 
2012-06-10 09:53:50 PM  
Here's a little known fact for you - the reason that Alien V Predator sucked so horribly is because they cut out anyone who knew anything about the actual comic series.

/ uncle did the original art for the comic book
// he made next to nothing on the movie because they cut him out
/// bunk
 
2012-06-11 07:40:49 AM  

Psylent1: The one thing I hated about the scene with Newt's family is that the derelict spaceship is still just siting there.

I had assumed it had fallen into a fissure or been covered by an avalanche in the years since Alien, but no it is just sitting there, within driving distance to a colony that obviously took years to build and apparently nobody bothered to look in that general direction in all those years.


The cut scene gave an explanation for that I believe. Something along the lines of how they were weeks out from the colony to go to those coordinates. Granted, you'd think there would have been a scan before they dropped the terraformers, but once those are creating atmosphere no one is doing much traveling.
 
2012-06-11 09:33:44 AM  

DamnYankees: theunblinkingeye: DamnYankees: theunblinkingeye: DamnYankees: Psylent1: The one thing I hated about the scene with Newt's family is that the derelict spaceship is still just siting there.

I had assumed it had fallen into a fissure or been covered by an avalanche in the years since Alien, but no it is just sitting there, within driving distance to a colony that obviously took years to build and apparently nobody bothered to look in that general direction in all those years.

It's not the same ship as in Alien, because its not the same planet as in Alien. Both the movies themselves label the planets different, and Ridley Scott has confirmed they are not the same planets. Like he has said before, its not a prequel. Rather, it's meant to evoke certain things you already know, not precede them.

Aliens is set on the same planet as Alien: LV 426.

Correct, but Prometheus is not set on that planet. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the argument.

I don't see anyone saying Prometheus was.

You're right. I totally misread your post. My bad.


actually you make a good point. the "space jockey" the basis of the new movie is found/seen on LV-426 when the first crew comes. how come they have it on this new planet? i think it was LV223 or something like that. if this is the prequel then this should take place on LV426.

Pretty good movie btw. i enjoyed it.
 
2012-06-11 07:05:02 PM  
http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

Read this article, it provides a very good explanation for everything.
 
2012-06-11 07:47:48 PM  
I wont open a slideshow but I know that Alien 3 was a big giant piece of shiat that makes Aliens seem completely worthless.
 
2012-06-12 04:03:00 PM  

Suede head: Dude, you've developed a super-duper advanced autodoc unit. You program it for every medical procedure in the book... except for women's stuff?


Here's what I don't get: What was the point of the gender basis? She essentially got her C-section anyway, so I don't understand the significance of "foreign body removal" being all that different than C-section for something not shaped like a human baby. Really? Did it add something to have gender specificity?

/Also, was David's basketball toss a nod to Alien Resurrection?
 
2012-06-12 04:09:34 PM  

Suede head: Guy Pearce's shiatty "old man" make-up and crappy acting. Overacting from the mohican guy. petting the alien snake (as one would naturally do). Just farking stupid crap.


Googled it. Per io9: Oh, and as for why Weyland is played by Guy Pearce in old-man makeup, Spaihts says Damon Lindelof's script showed the android David going inside Weyland's dreams while he was in hypersleep - and in his dreams, Weyland is a young man, on a yacht surrounded by beautiful women. These dream conversations got cut, but Pearce's casting was already locked in. Scott had originally wanted to cast Max von Sydow as Peter Weyland.
 
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