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2012-06-09 10:43:17 AM
ss;dr
 
2012-06-09 10:51:27 AM

elvisaintdead: ss;dr


THIS.
 
2012-06-09 11:00:10 AM

elvisaintdead: ss;dr


THAT and this,

Sensory Stimulation-Desensitization Response
 
2012-06-09 11:03:11 AM
"Begin Slideshow" = "Close Window"
 
2012-06-09 11:25:09 AM
I did actually look at the slideshow. Unusual behavior for me. There is a reason most of those facts are little known.
 
2012-06-09 11:34:04 AM
I'm going to guess that I already knew at least a quarter of those things and don't give a flying fark about the rest.

DNRTFASS

They showed Alien in a sci-fi literature course I took in high school. Best class ever. The same teacher taught the Bible as Literature. We didn't see Alien in the Bible class though. The Bible is actually an interesting book if you can get past the whole religious aspect
 
2012-06-09 01:17:57 PM

TwistedIvory: "Begin Slideshow" = "Close Window"


this this and farking 44 slide slide show?
fark that shiat
 
2012-06-09 01:30:54 PM
As slide shows go, this one ran well and was affirmative.
 
2012-06-09 02:00:07 PM
How many of those 44 things involve Sigorney Weaver walking around in her underwear? I'm quite happy to view a 44 page slideshow, if at least 40 of the slides are Sigourney Weaver in her underwear. Otherwise, not so much.
 
2012-06-09 03:27:33 PM
Dear god, I am not a big gun person, but for farks sake, Sigourney Weaver has a serious psychological issue about them. Not healthy lady.
 
2012-06-09 03:31:03 PM
Deslided:

Link
 
2012-06-09 03:45:05 PM

Fear_and_Loathing: I did actually look at the slideshow. Unusual behavior for me. There is a reason most of those facts are little known.


Lord that was remarkable dull.
 
2012-06-09 03:47:12 PM
Wasn't really a great list, but it wasn't 44 slides either.
 
2012-06-09 03:58:02 PM

Teknowaffle: Dear god, I am not a big gun person, but for farks sake, Sigourney Weaver has a serious psychological issue about them. Not healthy lady.


This is one of the things that makes her a terrible actress. Real life != make believe. "I'm sorry, I'm part Native American, I can't do a film about going into space and colonizing it because look at what happened when the white man colonized the North American continent. But if you give me more money, I can shut my mouth."

I bet she biatched about the proton packs in Ghostbusters, also, and she tried to change the ghosts into something else because ghosts are conflicting with her religion.
 
2012-06-09 04:11:23 PM

Teknowaffle: Dear god, I am not a big gun person, but for farks sake, Sigourney Weaver has a serious psychological issue about them. Not healthy lady.


Yeah, that caught my attention also. "I want a movie about fighting a man eating alien killing machine with acid for blood, but no guns." I am wondering if she at any time suggested ending Alien 3 with sitting the alien down and hammering out a peace treaty?

Reading about how she fights for anti-gun causes really ticked me off. My parents live on a farm in Oklahoma. They have two shot guns to protect themselves against any dangerous wild animal that might wander onto the farm. I really want her to explain to my parents how that's wrong and if she gets her dream, they will be defending their farm against wild animals with either spears or just hiding inside the house hoping that the wild animal or animals doesn't wreck everything and kill all their animals and live stock. That should make for a fun conversation.
 
2012-06-09 04:13:04 PM
I was watching my alien blu rays in preparation for Prometheus. First of all, if you have a blu ray player, you need to buy the anthology, its about 30 bucks for the UK version(all region and half cost of US version), it has the best transfers of older films I've ever seen as well as some of the most entertaining and numerous extras I've seen from dvd/blu ray.

Anyways... I watched the assembly cut of Alien 3 for the first time and it was a huge improvement over the theatrical cut, enough of an improvement to say the movie was a fitting end to an great trilogy. You could definitely tell Fincher was going on to greater things even if the movie didn't turn out like he hoped.
 
2012-06-09 04:13:38 PM

namatad: TwistedIvory: "Begin Slideshow" = "Close Window"

this this and farking 44 slide slide show?
fark that shiat


it was only 16 pages.
 
2012-06-09 04:17:07 PM

GBmanNC: Anyways... I watched the assembly cut of Alien 3 for the first time and it was a huge improvement over the theatrical cut, enough of an improvement to say the movie was a fitting end to an great trilogy. You could definitely tell Fincher was going on to greater things even if the movie didn't turn out like he hoped.


I think the assembly cut is a better version of Alien 3 in that it expands the otherwise relatively faceless characters, but it's still not a very good movie; if anything, it kind of underscores how cobbled-together Alien 3 is. Alien 3's biggest problem is just that it's ultimately pointless.
 
2012-06-09 04:22:21 PM

Teknowaffle: Dear god, I am not a big gun person, but for farks sake, Sigourney Weaver has a serious psychological issue about them. Not healthy lady.


If her argument is "guns won't be used in the future" I have to agree with her.

/No problem with people owning guns
 
2012-06-09 04:37:41 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Teknowaffle: Dear god, I am not a big gun person, but for farks sake, Sigourney Weaver has a serious psychological issue about them. Not healthy lady.

If her argument is "guns won't be used in the future" I have to agree with her.

/No problem with people owning guns


Nope, it was "I give a lot of money to organizations that work to keep guns away from people, therefore I don't want guns in my films"

Acting is about make believe lady, you check your real life and inhibitions at the soundstage door.

How do you think they make movies like "Brokeback Mountain" with two straight actors?
 
2012-06-09 04:46:29 PM
Haven't read TFA, but does it mention how the Nosotromo hallways were later donated to the Vogon construction fleet?
 
2012-06-09 04:47:59 PM

BafflerMeal: Deslided:

Link


You are a scholar and a gentleman.
 
2012-06-09 04:48:13 PM
To kick off a new feature called "Vulture Scavenger," we watched all four Alien films (repeat after us: There are no Alien v. Predator movies)

Not only are there no AvP movies, I have no idea what they is talking about concerning a third and fourth Alien film.

Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and unca' Bishop got back to earth and lived happily ever after.
 
2012-06-09 04:52:51 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: To kick off a new feature called "Vulture Scavenger," we watched all four Alien films (repeat after us: There are no Alien v. Predator movies)

Not only are there no AvP movies, I have no idea what they is talking about concerning a third and fourth Alien film.

Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and unca' Bishop got back to earth and lived happily ever after.


It's odd, people talk about movies that sound awesome but don't actually exist. Like a second and third Matrix movie and prequels to the Star Wars trilogy.
 
2012-06-09 04:58:06 PM
I could've swore Alien3 was about a bunch of aliens on Earth that ran around cutting off each others heads until there was only one...
 
2012-06-09 05:06:26 PM

wippit: I could've swore Alien3 was about a bunch of aliens on Earth that ran around cutting off each others heads until there was only one...


I think that was the primaries.
 
2012-06-09 05:14:32 PM

FeedTheCollapse: namatad: TwistedIvory: "Begin Slideshow" = "Close Window"

this this and farking 44 slide slide show?
fark that shiat

it was only 16 pages.


yah, just went through the deslided version ...
which is the only humane way to deal with slide shows
 
2012-06-09 05:14:43 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: To kick off a new feature called "Vulture Scavenger," we watched all four Alien films (repeat after us: There are no Alien v. Predator movies)

Not only are there no AvP movies, I have no idea what they is talking about concerning a third and fourth Alien film.

Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and unca' Bishop got back to earth and lived happily ever after.


I don't know about that. Even if you discard Alien3 and Resurrection, happily ever after is just not in the cards for them. Prometheus establishes that your brain operates in a sleep-like state while in cryo. Ripley was having nightmares in Aliens. I doubt a repeat engagement with them that saw most of a military escort get wiped out will help with the nightmares on the trip home.

It does really frame Ripley from Aliens in a new light though. 60 years of sleep? 60 years of likely nightmare after nightmare of the Nostromo? A nightmare you can't wake yourself up from? It's amazing she wasn't just a babbling farking loon when they found her.
 
2012-06-09 05:17:52 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Teknowaffle: Dear god, I am not a big gun person, but for farks sake, Sigourney Weaver has a serious psychological issue about them. Not healthy lady.

If her argument is "guns won't be used in the future" I have to agree with her.

/No problem with people owning guns



I'm pretty sure there will either be guns used in the future that are far more destructive then the ones we have now, or something much worse. You don't really think there will be no weapons in the future, do you?
 
2012-06-09 05:26:40 PM

Klivian: the opposite of charity is justice: To kick off a new feature called "Vulture Scavenger," we watched all four Alien films (repeat after us: There are no Alien v. Predator movies)

Not only are there no AvP movies, I have no idea what they is talking about concerning a third and fourth Alien film.

Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and unca' Bishop got back to earth and lived happily ever after.

I don't know about that. Even if you discard Alien3 and Resurrection, happily ever after is just not in the cards for them. Prometheus establishes that your brain operates in a sleep-like state while in cryo. Ripley was having nightmares in Aliens. I doubt a repeat engagement with them that saw most of a military escort get wiped out will help with the nightmares on the trip home.

It does really frame Ripley from Aliens in a new light though. 60 years of sleep? 60 years of likely nightmare after nightmare of the Nostromo? A nightmare you can't wake yourself up from? It's amazing she wasn't just a babbling farking loon when they found her.


I'm pretty sure the "dreams" were just activity in her subconscious mind. Don't think it rises to the level of actively remembered dreams.
 
2012-06-09 05:34:47 PM

mongbiohazard: Dwight_Yeast: Teknowaffle: Dear god, I am not a big gun person, but for farks sake, Sigourney Weaver has a serious psychological issue about them. Not healthy lady.

If her argument is "guns won't be used in the future" I have to agree with her.

/No problem with people owning guns


I'm pretty sure there will either be guns used in the future that are far more destructive then the ones we have now, or something much worse. You don't really think there will be no weapons in the future, do you?


I highly doubt that when the human race sets out for the stars we will be bringing a device that strikes a primer in a cartridge that ignites powder that then uses gas to propell a lead slug for deadly effect. It wouldn't work in space anyway. Far more likely to have a mass propeller like a gauss gun or some type of laser weapon.
 
2012-06-09 05:34:58 PM

BafflerMeal: Deslided:

Link


Ok I'm going to go against the grain and say, thanks BafflerMeal. As a big fan that was all pretty interesting.

/Whedon wrote #4?
//Wuhuh?
///Oh I see this is him biatching about how they farked it all up
////Damn right they did
 
2012-06-09 05:41:41 PM

Posh Naranek: Damn right they did


According to him, they shot the script he wrote and simply executed it poorly. Since the entire premise was nonsense and stupid and utterly terrible, I think he should shoulder some of the blame, too.
 
2012-06-09 05:41:51 PM

therecksays: It wouldn't work in space anyway. Far more likely to have a mass propeller like a gauss gun or some type of laser weapon.


www.propaholics.wolfchasers.com
Vera frowns on you and your science.
 
2012-06-09 05:47:20 PM

therecksays: I highly doubt that when the human race sets out for the stars we will be bringing a device that strikes a primer in a cartridge that ignites powder that then uses gas to propell a lead slug for deadly effect. It wouldn't work in space anyway.


Yes it would. It would work better in space as there's no air resistance to slow the projectile. Modern cartridges contain both the fuel and the oxygen in the propellant mix. You don't think the gun sucks in air to fire, do you?
 
2012-06-09 05:47:57 PM
Aliens-The Deleted Stuff
16. An early exchange between Ripley and Burke (Paul Reiser), in which he delivers information about Ripley's daughter, who died two years prior. Weaver later expressed dismay at the excision of this scene, which she claims to have based all her character beats on, especially all the stuff about Ripley's need to kept Newt safe.

17. An early scene set in the colony of "Hadley's Hope" on LV-426 (dubbed Acheron by Cameron for the film, though the name is never said out loud). Newt and her brother (played by Henn's real-life sibling) drive out with their parents to the wreck of the derelict craft from the first film. The parents disappear inside. When they emerge, Newt's father has a facehugger attached to his head.

18. Several moments with some kickass remote-controlled sentry guns that amp up the tension right before the horde crashes through the ceiling.


I remember the network TV premiere version of Aliens containing these scenes, and thinking that they made the storyline better.
 
2012-06-09 05:54:19 PM

Useless Destruction of Exergy: I remember the network TV premiere version of Aliens containing these scenes, and thinking that they made the storyline better.


the scene with Ripley's daughter is fine, but everything else about the extended cut is just redundant and throws off the pacing of the film, especially early on. Never understood why the sentry gun scenes are so beloved as they're not really important.
 
2012-06-09 05:54:44 PM

t3knomanser: Posh Naranek: Damn right they did

According to him, they shot the script he wrote and simply executed it poorly. Since the entire premise was nonsense and stupid and utterly terrible, I think he should shoulder some of the blame, too.


Sweet Jesus, Resurrection was a giant turd from beginning to end. There was nothing they could have done that would have saved that movie. As you said, the entire premise was stupid.

NeoCortex42
Vera frowns on you and your science.

Ah, the perils of not being precise when asking your science adviser a technical question. Now, it could be argued that there is something in the way Vera was made that made it difficult or impossible for her to function in vacuum, say, the parts are so well machined that they suffer vacuum cementing and cause the gun to jam, but the cartridges will fire and the bullet will fly just fine in a vacuum.
 
2012-06-09 05:56:44 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Useless Destruction of Exergy: I remember the network TV premiere version of Aliens containing these scenes, and thinking that they made the storyline better.

the scene with Ripley's daughter is fine, but everything else about the extended cut is just redundant and throws off the pacing of the film, especially early on. Never understood why the sentry gun scenes are so beloved as they're not really important.


The deletion of Ripley's daughter was a huge disservice to the movie. The rest of the removed scenes were not needed and the film was better without them.
 
2012-06-09 06:02:02 PM

Ed Grubermann: FeedTheCollapse: Useless Destruction of Exergy: I remember the network TV premiere version of Aliens containing these scenes, and thinking that they made the storyline better.

the scene with Ripley's daughter is fine, but everything else about the extended cut is just redundant and throws off the pacing of the film, especially early on. Never understood why the sentry gun scenes are so beloved as they're not really important.

The deletion of Ripley's daughter was a huge disservice to the movie.




I wouldn't go quite that far, though I do agree that it does bring more to the film than the other scenes.
 
2012-06-09 06:03:10 PM

Ed Grubermann: the scene with Ripley's daughter is fine, but everything else about the extended cut is just redundant and throws off the pacing of the film, especially early on. Never understood why the sentry gun scenes are so beloved as they're not really important.

The deletion of Ripley's daughter was a huge disservice to the movie. The rest of the removed scenes were not needed and the film was better without them.


I thought the sentry guns actually gave some breathing room and pacing to the scenes where they're trapped in the control area.
 
2012-06-09 06:06:40 PM
I've heard about the wooden planet before. Honestly, I think it sounds pretty cool, but it's a bit too out there for the Alien universe. Alien obviously takes a lot of scientific liberties with biology and physics (though props to Scott for having space be silent in the first film), but a wooden planet stretches it.

I think the idea would be great in a more overtly fantastical setting though, like 40K.
 
2012-06-09 06:07:54 PM
Okay, folks, all you pissing about how Weaver doesn't like guns, well, she doesn't and yet still made a kick-ass movie WITH GUNS that we all love, and went on do do even more cool movies, even though in her private life she's a gun-hating libtard. Is it okay to just drop the frothing a little bit? Just a tad? Give her some slack for entertaining you?
 
2012-06-09 06:08:27 PM
#45, Straw Hats Are Cool

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2012-06-09 06:28:56 PM

elvisaintdead: ss;dr


What does the Southern States Dachshund Rescue have to do with anything?
 
2012-06-09 06:34:01 PM

Ed Grubermann: FeedTheCollapse: Useless Destruction of Exergy: I remember the network TV premiere version of Aliens containing these scenes, and thinking that they made the storyline better.

the scene with Ripley's daughter is fine, but everything else about the extended cut is just redundant and throws off the pacing of the film, especially early on. Never understood why the sentry gun scenes are so beloved as they're not really important.

The deletion of Ripley's daughter was a huge disservice to the movie. The rest of the removed scenes were not needed and the film was better without them.


I've never seen a version of the film without these 3 scenes, and the sentry gun scene is the only one that doesn't bring much to the table.

Ripley learning about her daughter seems a big driving force for her (seriously, why cut that?), and seeing the guy get facehugger'd gives fans of the first film a "shiat's about to go down!" feeling.

Even the guns show the aliens absorbing a thousand rounds of ammo and still keep coming, so not a complete waste.
 
2012-06-09 06:39:53 PM
biatching about slideshows is so farking lame.

Good list, lots of interesting things I didn't know.
 
2012-06-09 06:50:17 PM

9beers: biatching about slideshows biatching is so farking lame.


but biatching about biatching about biatching is en vogue.
 
2012-06-09 06:52:59 PM
But my ultimate curiosity has to be... What the of Tampon did Ripley use at the end of Resurrection because after all, she had acid for blood and I am sure the normal ones just didn't hold up.
 
2012-06-09 06:59:59 PM
"Begin Slideshow"

That's a funny way to spell "Close Window"
 
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